MAGA is straight up losing it after Taylor Swift’s Harris endorsement
MAGA is straight up losing it after Taylor Swift’s Harris endorsement
All’s well that ends well, but MAGA’s in a new hell.
“F you, Taylor Swift!” shouted Megyn Kelly, “and f all of the people who want to see these children have body parts chopped off.”
For those not fluent in Republican crazy-speak, Kelly’s meltdown was triggered by Taylor Swift’s endorsement of Kamala Harris the night before, barely one hour after Trump all but face-planted on the debate stage. Kelly was especially triggered by Swift highlighting her appreciation for vice presidential nominee Tim Walz’s support of LGBTQ+ rights.
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Other right-wing commentators, like Ben Shapiro, took another approach: making fun of Swifties. “Note: if you vote for a particular candidate because your favorite singer is doing so, please don’t vote. You are too stupid to vote,” wrote Shapiro on X. Meanwhile, Elon Musk, the richest man on the planet, threatened to impregnate her.
“F you, Taylor Swift!” shouted Megyn Kelly, “and f all of the people who want to see these children have body parts chopped off.”
Weird
The current Republican platform is largely based on stupid easily disproven lies. I'm convinced our fall to fascism is caused by stupidity as much as it is hatred.
"Doctors are cutting little boys dicks off because they like the color pink!"
"They're performing abortions after birth!"
"Haitians are eating all the cats and dogs!"
"They're putting litter boxes in the school bathrooms!"
There's really only two kinds of Republican: The evil ones who spread these lies intentionally, and the stupid ones who believe this dumb shit.
The current Republican platform is largely based on stupid easily disproven lies.
It's worth mentioning that this strategy is straight out of the trolling playbook. The overall idea is to get everyone to waste their time arguing nonsense, making it impossible to discuss anything of merit. While the following article applies to internet forums, it's not hard to see how any social media, TV, or radio, can spill over into our day-to-day discourse and have the same effect: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7573649/
In this case, the topic at hand meets multiple criteria for deliberate trolling. IMO, there's little room for doubt that we're being led by the nose and baited to waste valuable pre-election time:
- Digression - Luring others into off-topic discussions by spamming, partaking in cascades or introducing tangential topics (e.g., as in [16]).
- (Hypo)criticism - Excessive criticism of others, e.g. on their punctuation while possibly committing the same errors oneself.
- Antipathy - Creation of a sensitive or antagonistic context through purposeful provocation, in order to manipulate others to produce emotional responses.
- Endangering - Giving out poor advice under an innocent guise, and others are compelled to respond in order to protect others.
- Shocking - Posting about taboos or sensitive subjects, such as religion, death or human rights.
- Aggression - Deliberate and open aggressing of others into retaliating (e.g., by name-calling or foul language).
There’s really only two kinds of Republican: The evil ones who spread these lies intentionally, and the stupid ones who believe this dumb shit.
Nonense! There's a third kind who is both stupid and evil. They may even be the majority.
Remember when NBC hired Kelly in 2017, she gave Putin a platform to spread his propaganda, she got demoted, and then eventually fired for racism? Who could have guessed that she was just another maga conspiracy nut?
“and f all of the people who want to see these children have body parts chopped off.”
As someone living in a country whey we don't chop off the foreskin of little children, whereas conservative Americans love that chopping procedure, I find this statement slightly amusing.
They have a covenant with their diety about slicing up little baby penises and this is the shit they say. Incredible.
Remember, God hates the tips
Republicans: Cancel culture is ruining the country!
Also Republicans: You endorsed Harris? Kiss your Republican record sales goodbye!
No no no, you see, when the left does it, it's cancel culture and literally communism. When the right does it, it's voting with your dollar, literally capitalism. Not comparable at all!!
/s
Which is hilarious since the main source of income for musicians ever since streaming took off is live shows and merch.. albums are a vehicle to drive attendance at concerts, for which Swift is pretty good at packing stadiums full of people. Even if she loses 30% of her listeners, she'll still sell out concerts and total revenue would likely be about the same because those seats will be taken up by other fans who would have otherwise missed out on the sold-out show.
... Ben Shapiro accusing other people of not being smart enough to vote.....
He should practice what he preaches and not vote, himself.
He should vote, because everyone should vote.
Fuck Ben Shapiro, he's some combination of idiot and willing stooge, but voting only works when everyone gets to vote. Unlike these right-wing fuckwits, I'm not willing to disenfranchise voters just because I perceive them as being less intelligent than me.
EDIT: I am shocked that supporting a fair and equal democracy seems to be at least sort of controversial around here. If you genuinely believe a given category of people should be disallowed from voting, please reconsider your values.
Yes, because telling someone to practice what they preach is disenfranchising them.
C’mon, now.
Voting is his right, it his obligation. If he wanted to show he’s not a total fucking liar and hypocrite…. He should chose to not vote because he’s definitely stupider than the vast majority of swifties.
To be fair, most rocks have enough intelligence to be smarter than him… and they’re inanimate.
"I will impregnate her" -Elon Musk
"She will be raped by Venezuelans" -David Rubin
"Children's Genitals!" -Megyn Kelly
Weird...
Elmo basically threatened to rape her... Shitbag.
If only you were exaggerating... but sadly not.
This Elmo?!Elmo has gone dark...
Once again, we see what the debate between Harris and Trump illustrated very clearly: The GOP in its current state is not pursuing any program whatsoever, but merely builds up imaginary enemy stereotypes that they blame for all their problems - without any even halfway factual reasons. Democratic processes are impossible with this tedious kindergarten approach because they are based on factual arguments, cooperation and the willingness to find common ground. I sincerely hope that there are some rational thinking conservatives left who will refuse to vote for this hateful orange moron and his ridiculous henchmen.
Yeah, it's almost as if all their talking points and strategies are fed to them by a hostile foreign power that wants to destabilize its enemy. Weird.
Just a friendly reminder since it can't be said enough, and some people are unaware:
"The Department of Justice also indicted two employees of RT, a Russian state broadcaster, saying that they funneled $10 million to a U.S. media company that hired prominent right-wing influencers here in the U.S."
I hate that it'll be taboo to call them stupid in ten years. "Do you remember how stupid you were acting? What's to make me believe you aren't still that stupid"will be frowned upon. But seriously they're behaving, and voting, that fucking stupidly.
I hate their "children's body parts chopped off" bit. Most doctors won't do until they're 18 and even then the number of people who do it is miniscule compared to the overall population or the rest of the LGBT community. Imagine being so uncomfortable in your own skin that you decide that's your best option. Have some ducking compassion, Megyn.
Unless it's circumcision for religious reasons ... then chopping off body parts is A'OK.
These are the same people who, faced with an obviously intersex newborn, would 100% surgically mutilate the baby to fit in a binary ASAP without thinking twice.
It never is and never was about protecting children.
Isn't the under 18 procedure pretty much reserved for those who are a high risk of suicide unless they can transition?
To add to other replies, it's also very difficult to find reliable information on the topic at this point since the search space has been so contaminated, and it's already not default public information, since medical privacy is a thing.
It's low to the point of hypotheticals, case by case basis ethical calls, and very nearly philosophical thought experiment levels of "but what if...".
Yes.
If they didn't want her to voice her opinion they shouldn't have spent a week making fake ai images of her endorsing Trump. They forced her hand; she could either allow her likeness to be appropriated for a political cause she doesn't agree with, or make her true opinion known.
Shes just an uppity women. She should do what I say. -Republicants.
Could just as easily have been a democrat trying to draw her endorsement. Its silly to point blame like that.
I'm certain Dems did ask her for endorsement, there is no way they wouldn't have, right? But they didn't make weird AI images, did they? So it is wildly different and deserves blame and criticism, doesn't it?
Donald is like the stereotypical pathetic incel stalker pasting his face over a boyfriend in a photo to add to a weird little shrine. Just really fucking weird and creepy.
Did I miss the news cycle where Democrats started dismembering children?
Leading up to the debate, a whole bunch of new propaganda got pushed. Haitians eating cats in Ohio, Post-birth-abortions, and forced transitions for children, prisoners, and illegal-aliens. Totally normal conspiracy theories based on absolutely nothing
Haitians eating cats in Ohio
They overheard "I'm coming over there to eat that pussy" and got confused because they have no concept of a man doing something for the benefit of a woman.
Post-birth-abortions
I think the cops are handing that, or at the very least making sure no parents go into the school to prevent it from happening.
forced transitions
I got nothing, they're just batshit crazy.
Well, no one is forcing transitions, but we do and should continue to provide necessary medical care for prisoners. Arguably that care needs improvement in terms of accessibility for citizens and immigrants alike, which I think is where Trump pointed out Harris has truthfully put some work into.
That's what sucks about so many of these claims. Are they based on any truth?
I will say, it's at least a good exercise in critical thinking to have to go claim by claim, as exhausting as it is to so consistently find blatant lies, let alone half-truths.
That is the smell of desperation.
One of the Republican talking points in this election is that parents are sending their kids to school in the morning and they are coming home with their dicks chopped off in the afternoon because Democrats are performing operations on them to turn them trans. Yes, it is very weird and completely untrue.
Conservatives consider this made-up conspiracy more serious than the actual school shootings that leave kids dead every week.
LOL. I see the connection now. I knew all of the pieces but I guess it takes a psycho to put it together.
It's depressing that you have to even say that it's untrue.
At the Minnesota State Fair, Republicans set up a booth where they claimed Tim Waltz did nothing while Minneapolis burned to the ground. Was even depicted on the sign they put on their booth. The Minnesota State Fair takes place in Minneapolis; they're literally in the city that supposedly burned down.
This is the level of cognitive dissonance we're dealing with.
I don’t think it’s about abortion. I think they decided allowing a transgender teen to exist is “dismembering children” even if surgery for trans teens barely ever happens IRL. If they were actually worried about gender affirming surgery for minors, they’d want to ban nose jobs and fake tits too. So, it’s just part of the general trans moral panic amongst conservatives and “Won’t someone please think of the children?” bullshit that always accompanies moral panics even if children aren’t involved.
I’m cis but my understanding is that even trans adults find getting access to gender affirming healthcare is a huge, expensive ordeal. Philosophy Tube had a good video on her experience in the UK and I sincerely doubt it’s any easier in America’s labyrinthian, absurdly expensive non-system. It’s definitely not like parents are swinging by the urgent care to get their 13 year-olds free bottom surgery.
It's hard to keep track. I thought Dems were eating cats but I guess they changed plans.
Eating them? Shit, I have a vet appointment to cancel... and a pile of children's bones to dispose of...
She may mean the process of abortion. Unfortunately, it can be gruesome if not performed early.
Source: Wife worked in a family care clinic and assisted with many of these procedures.
That's essentially what I told my wife last night. If you're undecided and watched the debate and still are undecided, just admit you're a Trump voter.
Seems you don't even trust what your wife has to say, not sure why you'd 'source' her and expect everyone else to.
the richest man in the world "threatened to impregnate her" holy shit what bizarre world we are living in.
The party of rapists, child molesters and murderers is mad at Taylor Swift. She must've done something right. 🤔
Yeah, though not in the domain of singing.
But it IS the domain of the Republican party 🤔
Hmmm, it's almost as if one can choose not to support/apologize for these cretins.
So what brought you to this thread?
Imagine living in the US 💀
Help us 😭
Yeah, it's great being on the out side looking in
I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.
“F you, Taylor Swift!” shouted Megyn Kelly, “and f all of the people who want to see these children have body parts chopped off.”
You guys remember the time Donald Trump accused this same woman who is now hysterically defending him of "blood coming out of her wherever" because she had the audacity to ask him about his sexism?
This reminds me of a thought I've been kicking around. All these Republicans who knew beforehand what a monster trump is, and now spend all their time gobbling his stumpy mushroom? They're all examples of a weird variation on Stockholm syndrome. But instead of identifying with their captors on a personal level, they've identified their entire political party with him. They don't think it can exist without him now.
Once he kicks the bucket, psychologists are going to have a field day untangling this mental health mess.
You're confused because your values include truth and integrity. Theirs do not. They care only about white supremacist hierarchy as the foundation for society.
She simply used to think he would not get elected. Now she sees that he drives huge numbers of delusional bigots to vote.
The argument that "you shouldn't vote for someone just because your favorite celebrity endorses them" seemed like a much more credible argument before the 2016 election when the winning candidate essentially won by literally being a celebrity.
Prior to 2016, Trump was probably best known for being the host of a reality TV show, and being a "businessman". Taylor Swift is definitely better known, and you could also make a solid argument that she is a better "businessman" as well.
Businesswoman / person
If you note, I put "businessman" in quotes for both of them because it isn't the correct term for either of them. It isn't the correct term for Taylor because it is the wrong pronoun, and it isn't the correct term for Trump because he seems incapable of running a successful business. It was an intentional construct for ironic parallelism, not an oversight.
They are... I don't know how to say it... weird? Could that be an appropriate term? I don't know.
More like deranged at that point.
Definitely a tick mark on the weird spectrum
On the flip side, imagine voting for someone because Ben Shapiro is doing so.
Imagine doing or believing anything because of anything that guy said or did. I'm not even sure how anyone can stand listening to him.
I must admit that I don't get, why it's such a big deal, that Taylor Swift supports Harris. But seeing the meltdown of the right wing grifters does put a smile on my face.
She has 284 MILLION followers. And the Swifties are also like a cult. Granted a more sensible one. But people will support her through anything. And many of those supporters are gen z and just entered the voting pool. The GOP does not want a huge influx of voters.
I've seen some graphs / extrapolations where if young voters (18-24) voted at the same rate as older voters (55+), Harris would win by a pretty sizable margin.
That almost never happens, but Swift has a huge influence on young voter turnout.
I have a good friend that is a Swifty, they are basically another uber fandom with actual irl clout. Apparently she brought over a quarter million potential signups through this.
She used to be a Country Music darling, and a lot of right-wing Country people still feel like they own her like back when they had her as an underage sex symbol.
Not just her following, but there is a history where MAGA had a fantasy that Taylor Swift supported them
Her posting that link got something like 400k people to register to vote. That is not insignificant. I hate the news always discussing celebrity opinions on politics. However, this specific time, something happened that can actually have an impact. So we shall see.
Celebrities have every right to voice their opinion on national issues.
And, that is not a "zero risk" position.
A recent example is the formerly known: "Dixie Chicks". Research their dilemma.
And in the past, late 1940's, Hollywood had a "Blacklist" which was a very serious shit list which fucked over plenty of people.
Many American celebrities are also citizens with every right to voice their opinion the same as your lawn sign or bumper sticker. Yet, sometimes, it's a really good thing when those celebrities rally their groupies, Swifties, etc.
Like almost always, it boils down to others being jealous of the "power" of other people.
Was anyone on the left that mad when KidRock or Ted Nugent coming out in support of Dump?
No.
It's kind of disappointed At Kid Rock. Even though he was almost cliche he had some anti-establishment vibes for about 5 minutes.
I read this morning that the Swift endorsement was not choreographed with the Harris/Walz champaign. They didn't know it would happen until it did. Yet, they turned out and advertised a campaign friendship braclet within an hour. That is excellent digital marketing work.
Edited to add. They also sold out of them in an hour
I saw the look on Tim's face as Rachael Maddow received a note on-air and read the tweet in total, live. Their absolute shit-eating grins showed total and genuine surprise. You could hear them internally screaming, "FUCKING JACKPOT!"
As to the bracelet, they knew she would endorse them at some point, I'm sure they had it ready for that eventuality.
It took me a bit to find this video for anyone looking for it. The more I see interactions with Tim, really shows how wholesome of a person he is.
That's what happens when you have a great campaign staff.
Trump, otoh, sells the same red hat they've been selling for 8 years, plus some ridiculous "outlaw trump" posters
not beating the "weird" allegations
Trump threatened her for her endorsement. Anyone who thinks he has any redeeming qualities is beyond redemption.
Republicans would lose 2/3 off their voter base if they listened to Ben Shapiro. Like how many voters have become Republican because they listened to their favorite radio DJ or podcaster.
Never forget the time Shapiro got angry and confused in a softball interview with British right winger Andrew Neil and stormed out.
I highly recommend skipping to the end if you haven't seen it:
It's a mystery to me how these people get taken seriously at all.
This was a fun watch!
A lot, actually. Tons of money is being poured into raising up popular propagandists because it works. Russia was caught doing it just recently.
Russia was caught doing it just recently.
For those out of the loop:
"The Department of Justice also indicted two employees of RT, a Russian state broadcaster, saying that they funneled $10 million to a U.S. media company that hired prominent right-wing influencers here in the U.S."
Were it Russia alone, it'd be countered. The reason it doesn't is because there are also Israel, Turkey, Saudi Arabia.
The quote says singers.
Podcasters and radio hosts on the other hand are stellar people with the absolute best opinions and should be listened to and followed like sheep.
Megyn Kelly is nasty ~ Donald Trump
Megyn has that short term GOP memory. These people have no soul.
Also, fuck you too Megyn.
I half agree with Shapiro. It is stupid to vote for someone because a celebrity or anyone else famous that you like endorses someone.
However, people do, so it does indeed get votes.
It's less stupud to listen to Taylor Swift than it is to Ben Shapiro.
Choose who you listen to wisely. And no, her being a singer has little influence on that decision.
Ben Shapiro has zero qualifications to say anything
I would agree if she were a vapid pop star. But she's very clearly an intelligent business woman who also has musical talent. There are worse public figures to take cues from.
We model good decisions based on what people we respect tell us all the time. Maybe Taylor Swift isn't the ideal role model, but she's certainly not the worst one I can think of.
Politics is not something most normal people think a lot about or have coherent views about. I don't think it's all that crazy to think that an important role model could work as a heuristic for figuring out what their own values are.
I disagree. Celebrities are paid for movies, music, tv, ads, etc, and at any time, they can say they only did that one thing you didn't like because someone paid them money. They take a chance by endorsing a candidate because they could potentially lose lots of money, jobs, friends, or more. The type of people that do vote for candidates based on endorsements are also the type of people that don't generally follow politics, but when you talk to them, you'll find they are for the same issues as the candidate.
That endorsement could be the one that made some 18-21 year old go and look up the endorsed candidate. When they look up the candidate, they may not be really interested, but then they may find something that the candidate supports, and that makes them want to vote. They never would have voted if they didn't find that information, and they wouldn't have looked up the information without the endorsement.
Have you ever bought something that you saw an influencer endorse on social media? Have you ever gone to a new place because someone else recommended it? Have you ever found a new friend because one of your friends was friends with them? What about dropping thousands of dollars into a stock because someone said you should? All of these are just other forms of endorsements from people you pay attention and listen to. Maybe someone recommended a show on Netflix that you passed on previously but decided to watch because of the endorsement, and you really loved it?
Don't forget, Shapiro didn't just say you shouldn't base your vote off of an endorsement. He said that people who do should have their rights stripped. What does that mean? Does he want your Google searches to be checked to see when you started looking things up? He also wants to raise the voting age to 21. He wants voters to be tested to even qualify.
Look at what conservatives scream about during elections. Voters where their signature is slightly different, when their name matches a dead person, when purged voters try to vote because they haven't voted in awhile, illegals voting in mass, voting by mail, voting at the wrong location, etc. They're trying to stop people who most likely won't vote for them. They push wild conspiracies, but if you believe their conspiracies, they think you are good to vote. Problems exist on both sides, then again, if two cars caught fire in opposite sides of the same city on the same day and one of them was a Tesla, which one would be all over the news the next day?
The moral here is never let anyone tell you that your inspiration is wrong. Ordinary individuals are inspired to do extraordinary things every day, and all it takes is that spark of inspiration. Now, go out and do something cool or something!
I'm sure MAGAts are having to do mental jumping jacks from approving of a fake endorsement for Trump to now saying that her endorsement for Harris doesn't really matter and that she's a nobody. The whole thing is dumb either way, but if a pop star's endorsement is what it takes to hold off the fascists for at least 4 more years, then so be it.
It's funny how Taylor Swift mattered when Trump faked her endorsement.
I can't imagine living in such a weird celebrity country.
Very few people give a shit about celebrities here, let alone what they think, let alone what they think about politics. No one would care for who endorsed who, it very much means absolutely nothing.
The vast majority of us dont give two shits about any of this either. It's just 24hour news cycle slop. Anything for the clicks.
Ah, okay. Makes sense.
But I have assumptions about OP now which I think are probably correct.
Of course you don't list where "here" is. I'm willing to bet that not only do they care about celebrities about the same as Americans, but also that many of those celebrities they care about are Americans.
Go watch the pre-race and opening ceremonies to Formula 1 races and compare the spectacle of USA to any other nation. You'll find that "here" is basically "not USA". Celebrities do exist, but they aren't granted much status and often move to the USA to try garner that, as this seems to be the only place on the planet where popularity is a career path.
In battleground states the win/lose margin will quite possibly come down to a few thousand votes, particularly in PA. The endorsement might not change anyone's mind, but to her millions of fans it raises the elections' importance for anyone who doesn't "care about politics". It turns a civic issue into a social group issue, and people care more about the latter. It'll pull people reluctant to go to the polls to show up and vote.
That's nice.
How many celebrities are in your country?
Regardless, JPSound is right, no one really cares.
The number of Taylor Swift fans that planned to vote for trump was probably a very small number anyway
It's not about them. It's about the ones who weren't going to vote at all. Republicans lose when people turn out to vote.
Yep, we can make them go away by showing up and doing the minimum necessary to keep our democracy functional.
And so help me god if she militarized her base the GOP is fucked. They're playing with fire. I don't think people understand the soft power TS has. These are voting age kids, or kids of people who are voting age.
In less than 24 hours nearly 400k Americans registered to vote using the specific link that she provided. That's the number that matters. If they actually go vote that is enormous.
But I'd suspect the number of Taylor Swift fans who weren't going to vote at all was a fair bit larger.
Granted, there's really no consensus on the impact of celebrity endorsements, but if anyone can affect how people vote, I'd wager that the biggest pop star in the country could be the one to do it
They are scared of younger swift fans who weren't planning on voting at all.
You're not getting it.
How many of them weren't going to vote? How many will now?
It's not just about winning over undecided voters, you also need to convince apathetic voters and motivate lazy people to actually cast a ballot.
Look, just try and get it done. Go see what it takes, if it's really as easy as they keep telling you. Take your kid and see how far you can get in trying to surgically transition them. You can always back out at the last second. Don't just take the talking heads' word for it, go see for yourself how far you can get along that process before a medical professional tells you "no."
I concur, from personal experience.
Any gender transition related healthcare - even just hormone therapy - is a long and involved process that requires multiple doctor and therapist visits, even for adults. And you have to be quite determined and strongly advocate for yourself the entire time, or the process will get derailed.
People who claim that gender transition healthcare is "easy" or "sudden" are just making shit up.
No
Yeah, that's what you'll hear, immediately. Nobody anywhere is going to surgically transition a kid.
My father refused my offer on a trip to Portland during the election cycle 6 (4?) years ago.
I stopped talking to my father 4 years ago and I haven't been happier.
Why the hate They got the endorsment of quality stars like Kid rock, Kanye, Kevin sorbo, Hulk Hogan, Elon musk,
Al fine gentlemen /s
I know you LIBTARDS are going to say SOMETHING about School Shootings and Body Parts Falling Off so let me TELL you that she said CHOPPED OFF you Dumb Marxists! We ONLY care if they get CHOPPED off not SHOT off or MASSACRED off!
It's so dumb, she was never ever ever gonna endorse trump, no matter what A.I. generated images say 🤦♂️
In 2020, she baked Biden Harris cookies
Im trying to figure out how or why anyone would be surprised by this.
Megyn Kelly likes trump again now that NBC fired her?
Who?
;)
Losing what - their minds? They had to trade those for membership.
I love the implying the dems when they renew the office will do horrible things they have for some reason waited to do while they have office. Honestly it annoys me people take the what the canidate says they will do things with anything than a grain of salt when its clear the historical precidence has held. tax cuts for rich, deregulation, wars, outlaw abortion go republican. progressive taxes, corpo regulation and monopoly breakup, exiting wars, bodily autonomy go democrat. lambast fed to zero interest so stock market go burr republican, let fed set rates to keep a inflation at a low but not negative rate democrat. (for any repbulicans who don't understand fed rates obama had them up then trump pushed them down to his term which is why we had the inflation we had which cooled down due to biden allowing for extreme fed action which further makes things bad as you want fed adjustments to be small but that can't happen when a president spends his term pushing for them to be the opposite of where they should be.)
"...these children have body parts chopped off."
From an abortion? That's not how it works, Megyn. That's not how any of this works, you disingenuous dunce.
ETA: Oh, she's referring to trans kids? (Thanks for the clarification Dkarma) That makes a bit more sense. But still utter crap.
She's talking about trans kids. Also a lie.
"Losing it" implies they ever had it
Republican rhetoric has constantly endangered innocent people and it is about time they start paying for it.
I doubt there was a big overlap of conservative Trump voters and Taylor fans, the ones complaining about her don't matter to her or her fortune in any way
I don't know, there have been Conservatives that gave up on Rage Against the Machine and Green Day for coming out as anti-Trump.
These people do not have logical or consistent world views. They only know they are on "Team MAGA", so they might have loved Taylor Swift and not noticed any inconsistency until another Trumpet tells them we have always been at war with Eureast Asia.
Will not someone think of the magats?!!
Looks like Megan is on the Miami Diet now. I hope she knows that its a one way ticket to tumortown.
This woman has a TV show? She's craaaazzzyyyy!
We expected this.
Man, I am interested in politics, but I don't care about pop culture. Now I have to google Taylor Swift (I know the name and I am sure, I'll also know some songs of her, I just don't know the cnnections inbetween).
You don't really need to know anything about her music to get more context for the politics. She's popular and endorsed the candidate that isn't a caricature of the worst aspects of humanity.
You know the world is fcked up when an election is drived by a Singer support
Driven^^
That, not native but that's no excuse
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https://newrepublic.com/post/185845/taylor-swift-vote-kamala-harris-not-trump-childless-cat-lady
https://newrepublic.com/post/185883/maga-reaction-taylor-swift-kamala-harris-endorsement
https://newrepublic.com/article/185855/elon-musk-creep-response-taylor-swift-vote-kamala-harrisIf this is the leverage celebrities can do imagine if they would endorse third parties
Celebrities do express support for third party candidates regularly
Haven't see any, i guess the ones who do don't make it to the front page
Let's say Taylor Swift endorsed the Green Party, and then 500k swifties register to vote. Assume all of them vote for the Green Party.
Adding that to the Greens' 2016 numbers, they would have gotten about 2M votes. In 2020, it'd be about 1M. Both are less than 2% of the total vote, so we're not even talking about reaching the 5% threshold for federal funding of the next campaign.
Swift is one of the few with a large and highly devoted fanbase that could even come close to these numbers.
OTOH, 500k swifties voting for Democrats (not all of them will, but they will in the vast majority of cases) can matter a lot. It takes Harris from a close race where she might win the popular vote while losing the electoral college, and turning into a race with a comfortable lead where we don't have to worry about that damn stupid technicality putting Trump in office.
I really doubt someone who takes a private jet multiple times a week is ever going to vote or endorse green. Anyway a bunch of celebrities like this endorsing third parties would probably be enough to break the narrative that third parties can't win and they would get millions of votes.
we don’t have to worry
You don't have to worry because you are not a kid living in gaza being bombed with US weapons
Another article just picking some random Twitter posts and turning that into news
Lol, give me a break. No one gives a shit about the political opinions of pop stars. All of this shit is hyped up bullshit by media personalities. Absolutely no regular people are "losing it" because a pop star voiced her political opinion. These people in the media are trying to use it to push their own agendas, and if you buy into it, and it sways your opinion, I'm sorry, but you're a dumb ass.
I get what you're saying but you're being idealistic and factually wrong. There's a reason so many people signed up to vote that day with her referral link. It's because people do in fact give a shit. You may be right that they're dumb but that's beside the point.
Fair enough indeed.
No one gives a shit about the political opinions of pop stars.
She gave people a custom link to go to vote.gov, and within 24 hours over 400,000 people hit it. In comparison, in the week leading up to the debate, vote.gov was only getting 30,000 visitors a day. That is, she boosted their traffic by more than 1300%.
