truly a champion for free speech 🤡
No masks, says the guy with the supporters wearing masks and carrying nazi flags
Sound alot like how russia works.
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Apparantly, (in the US) any protest that needs to occupy the road requires a permit. Yea imagine how stupid it is, you want to protest the government and you need to apply for permission?!? I was shocked when my teacher told me about this. Seems like a huge First Amendment violation to me, but society just goes along with it. 😓
So unless your protest is strictly on the sidewalk, you need a permit. So fucking dumb.
You don’t need a permit to march in the streets or on sidewalks, as long as marchers don’t obstruct car or pedestrian traffic. And that makes a lot of sense because if you block a road perhaps emergency services need to know ahead of time that they can't take that route. Or others concerns may be relevant. For the very same reasons this is similar in countries around the world. Source: https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/protesters-rights
Its the same everywhere, doesn't mean it's not dumb but that's how it is.
Well yeah, keep your dumbasses out the fucking street.
That permit is worth as much to them as the original piece of paper in the scene.
But this isn't really a meme. Just a screenshot of madness.
honey look, freedom of expression and the right to protest in America just
gotdropped.Let's not keep making the mistake of assuming Trump's tweets have force of law. He's just talking out of his ass again, just like he's not actually invading greenland and canada. Notice how he's talking about at least 4 different actions here, I'm pretty sure none of which he can actually do. 5 if you count thanking us for our attention to this matter (?). If Trump tries to do anything in this regard no judge* will uphold it.
*Obligatory other than Clarence Thomas
People in power do what he says. His word is de facto law, even if it’s illegal. It literally does not matter. You are in denial if you think he’s not going to get away with this.
Let's not keep making the mistake of assuming the rule of law matters at this point. If he does something and nobody stops it, its legality or lack there of is moot. If he says to do something and people do it and nobody stops him (or judge's rulings about it are ignored), then it doesn't matter that it was illegal.
I know you're just trying to get people to calm down, but at this point, people are right to be scared and right to think these things could actually come to pass considering it has happened before. Maybe it won't get that far... But plenty has already happened that should never have happened, and the US currently has a president who is illegally, specifically unconstitutionally, holding office and was allowed to be sworn in anyway, so it's probably not a good idea to assume this won't happen just because it's also unconstitutional.
Hey remember that wall that didn’t get built?
The fact that no one is trolling him about it shows how people are weirdly compliant about all this.
“…illegal protest…”?
Oh right, the US Constitution doesn’t exist any more.
Next time an american speaks about "muh first amendment", "USA only free speech country in the world" bullshit, show them this
You are not wrong. The Supreme Court finding presidential immunity and then allowing an insurrectionist to run in contravention of the 14th amendment seems to have finally put the old document to rest.
We live according to royal decree now.
now you're catching on! You'll be head of a department in no time under drumpf's regime!
Correct
lol it never has the united states has a long history of killing, maiming, and imprisoning protestors
I mean just to be fair isn't it illegal to have a huge protest without informing the authorities first? Also violent protests would be illegal too, right?
These assumptions are based on similar laws from other countries. But I don't really believe Trump is talking about those protests or just planning to forbid them from getting permission to happen.
I swallowed my misgivings and voted Democrat, just like I've done at each election since I turned 18, but handwaving away valid criticisms is not how you get people to side with you. Pressure needs to be put on the democrats to be better, too.
Yep, I voted D like I always did...
But I spent a lot of time ringing any alarm bell I could find that all of Joe and Kamal's moves to the right was gonna cost us the election, and that the victory fund would lose the House and Senate.
I was right on all counts, but the people I was trying to explain it won't admit that reality proved them wrong.
There's no criticism for what the party did wrong, only anger at anyone with higher standards than the letter by the name.
Neoliberals want nothing as much as they want blindly loyal Dem voters, it's the only way most people ever hold their noses and vote for one. But rather than have a candidate dem voters want, they'd rather risk trump.
When they shut on voters like in that meme, they're telling us they have zero problem watching the country burn. They'd rather have trump than a Dem who agrees with Dem voters.
No one is hand waving away anything by asking people to vote
Pressure needs to be put on the democrats to be better, too.
They're already 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000x better than Republicans. So someone would have to be pretty goddamn stupid not to vote for them when the options are them or Republicans.
The majority of the fault isn't on Democrats. It's on goddamn stupid braindead asshole American voters for being goddamn stupid braindead assholes.
handwaving away valid criticisms
If you look carefully, you'll find statements about how "neither option affects [this particular thing] but we have the best chance of fixing it after the election if we still have a country".
It was never handwaved. It was the least-worse option with some kind of hope given that issue and a thousand others. How many times this has fucking been fucking explained and not fucking understood.
The argument, was the least bad between two bads. This is way worse than the alternative would ever get
I'm not American so nobody got my vote, but seems to me like the issue is with the swathes of people choosing facism rather than progressives who chose not to vote.
Choosing how to act in a world like ours is tricky, anyone following a sense of right and wrong (even if I disagree with their judgement) instead of fear, hate, greed or whatever gets a gold star in my book.
Inaction is still a choice, though. I totally understand the sentiment behind that choice and even agree that we shouldn't be forced to choose genocide, but the alternative that we got is a man who not only wants the same genocide, but wants to accelerate it, put American boots on the ground to assist in it, and then turn the bloodied ground into resorts while also wanting to worsen life across the globe. So, by refusing to act, they didn't oppose that man getting into power. They cared so much about genocide that, ironically, they enabled making that genocide worse by not acting against that possibility.
The biggest issue, though, is with the people who couldn't be bothered enough to vote. Some, what, 40% of Americans never vote? Of course, there's plenty there who can't due to things like gerrymandering, but there's a huge swathe of white suburbanites who simply prefer the status quo to actually improving things.
While I did vote blue conservative (for the last time), they were not worthy of that vote because they did not represent me. That's how representative democracy works. What you advocate for is not representative democracy, it is a hostage situation and should be treated like the crisis that that entails.
Why are you okay with people being underrepresented at the voting booth? Are you actively working to replace First Past the Post voting in your state? People should have the freedom to vote for the candidates they believe are best, while still ensuring their votes count against those they don’t want in office.
It's not as though democrats are just now learning of the mathematical flaws of FPTP. Every election I've seen the same bullshit excuses to take people's inalienable right to vote how they want. Democrats in blue states made a choice to leave a huge portion of the population unrepresented, all for safe states and easy elections.
We don’t need to wait for a miracle from Congress, we can pass election reform one state at a time. Should we have more elections, we must remove the democratic monopoly on this fight against the republicans. Don't worry, blue conservative, you will be free to vote for your preference under a more representative electoral system. Because who would want to deny someone the right to vote for the person they feel is best? You apparently.
Alaska has already abolished FPTP voting. After Ranked Choice Voting kept Sarah Palin out of office, Alaskan Republicans tried to pass a referendum to revert to FPTP, but the people voted to keep Ranked Choice. Why would you want to use the same voting system that Republicans favor? Do you support democracy, or do you get off on forcing people unrepresented in government to vote for your preference?
Videos on alternative voting systems
First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)
Videos on alternative electoral systems we can try out.
I feel a lot of people do a lot to justify stupid behaviour. "Saving is too hard" or "exercise is too hard". There's legit reasons to not be able to save, or exercise or being able to vote 🤨.
However there's a lot of bullshit that people were spouting. It's either a coordinated campaign or just dumb shit. What annoys me is everyone piling on Joe and then they did what people wanted and swapped to Kamala and they're still upset that the Dems "don't listen". Whatever, they're all full of it.
I fucking hate the Democrats but you have to be completely psycho to justify not-voting for them.
To be clear, I'm Canadian and I'm directly impacted by this now. So fuck all of those people.
Why are we still talking about this? It's over, and we can't undo the results.
Nobody pushing genocide is worthy of votes or support.
It was incumbent on Dems to EARN votes, and they failed spectacularly. You’re wrong to try blaming voters for failings of our corrupt politicians.
So this includes trump for his support of two separate groups that have demonstrated willingness to commit genocide.
Virtue signaling doesn't wash blood off your hands sweetie
Imagine thinking 5 people on the internet caused Trump to win.
They only had $1,500,000,00 to spend on Biden/Harris....
How is that supposed to counter the majority of Dem voters not wanting the Dem candidate?
What are they supposed to do?
Run a fair primary, back the winning candidate in the general, and stop bankrupting state parties?!
George Clooney doesn't eat dinner for free ya know....
zuck, Elon, bezos.... those three are on the internet. got 2 more?
I'm not in his district but I was so impressed by Rep. AL Green's (https://algreen.house.gov/about) courage in standing up to and calling out Krasnov's and the GOP's lies yesterday that I wanted to donate some money. Unlike all the impotent, sclerotic clowns who call themselves the Dem "leadership" and constantly ask me for money whilst the most they do are write "Strongly worded letters" and finger wagging, Rep. Green's website was all about service to his district. I literally could not find a way to donate to him. But he is now a hero of mine. If only HE or one of the few with his courage and fire were leading the Dems. I wish he were 20 years younger. He'd have made a great president.
What's an illegal protest? I thought first amendment speech covered that
Also, how can he expel a student from a school he doesn't control? or does he mean expel students from the country?
Since many answers aren't actually answering the question...
My comment is largely wrong!! See the reply below
Most places require a permit to assemble en masse. There are "free speech zones" where you can create large gatherings without any kind of advance notice or permit or whatever. Most universities have a free speech zone towards the middle of their campuses. Cities will also often have at least one but somewhere that doesn't inconvenience commerce, like a park or near city hall.Most mass assembly requires a permit and sometimes a fee, even in public places. Following this prevents arrest by "disturbing the peace" or other such laws, usually.How this squares with the first amendment is interpretation. Individual freedom of speech is protected except very specific public order and safety things, e.g. calling for violence. Coordinated, mass freedom of speech is perceived as a fast path to rioting.I'm not saying this is right, but this is my understanding of how things work. I'm not a lawyer or an expert in these matters. This is just what I learned from activist friends in my university time ages ago.As for expulsion, public universities are run by states. To my understand, Trump has no legal mechanism to do this. He's just talking out of his ass or expects to bully public institutions into expelling students by threatening to withhold department of education funding... but he's planning to kill that anyway, so 🤷♂️
What’s an illegal protest? I
Opposing genocide.
I thought first amendment speech covered that
Oh you precious child.
Also, how can he expel a student from a school he doesn’t control? or does he mean expel students from the country?
The schools don't need Trump to expel their own students.
Remember, he’s only got the intelligence of a kumquat. He doesn’t even understand that he’s too stupid to understand anything. He vomits whatever he thinks give his followers happy endings.
Yes. Also no.
It means all things and nothing at the same time.
All federal funding will stop
That's the only part here anyone needs to know.
He'll threaten to pull funding for his stupid pet issues first, then pull it anyways for everyone else.
Therefore, fucking ignore his threats, nothing you can do will ever appease him and he will go back on his own word like it's a bodily function.
This is the same as the Zelensky trap. They're going to cut federal funding regardless. The just plan on getting you to bend the knee before hand.
This exactly. Higher education hurts them in the long run so it was never going to get a pass. It’ll be gutted so that private schools can take over. This is just a way to put the blame on the universities and students who don’t bend to their will.
It’ll be gutted so that private schools can take over
Maybe. If it resists. If it fails to resist it will be turned into an institution responsible for communicating a fascist ideology.
Mask up. Leave your phones at home. Break shit.
They won't. They couldn't even get upset over kids being massacred every week in their schools. They are a broken people. Have been for decades. Their military.and economy didn't fail. Their moral fiber did. They substituted thoughts and prayers and other virtue signalling for community organisation and direct action.
If you think I am wrong then don't reply. Go outside and prove it. Nobody gives a shit what people write in social media. It means nothing.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
1st ammendment to the constitution since conservatives love to claim they support it
Bold of you to assume that the US is a country still under the rule.of law.
Nah I'm pretty sure the 1st amendment just says I can say the N word /s
Laws only matter if they are enforced.
The right wing doesn't care about law or consistency. They care about in-groups to protect and out groups to bind.
If "how do treat strangers" is a viable metric for assessing if someone is a good person or not, the the right wing are not good people.
Yeah but they're gonna rewrite the constitution, it's gonna be the best constitution the founding fathers will be jealous they didn't come up with this thing it's gonna be airtight and on the blockchain
Oh, we don't use that outdated piece of paper any more, haven't you heard?
Yeah, it's way too woke. Same with Jesus.
Congress isn't making a law. Instead, the President is committing treason while his party pretends not to notice and the other party flops around like a dead fish.
That's not a problem if executive orders are treated as law; the first amendment doesn't curtail the president's power.
I used to be the pride of my family for having finished college. Now it's demonized by them.
I feel for the students of today. College was an important time for me. I experienced a lot of new ideas, my mind was opened. I didn't get to do much in grad school, but my first four years of college changed me and I wouldn't be the same without those experiences. The way the situation is escalating we may see colleges completely locked down or even abolished.
The amount of times I've heard salty right wing grifters complain about Orwellian censorship on literally everything. But I guess it's just fine if cult leader Trump does it, because he stands for what's right and sticks it to those progressive plebs, right?
He didn't win by being consistent. Hypocrisy is WHY people voted for him. They thought he was the only one who would "do the hard things" by being cruel to the people who are hurting everyone. That's the narrative at least, and while you can literally write libraries on the flaws, inconsistencies and logical discrepancies in Trump and the Republican narratives, the fact remains that most people are vulnerable to storylines.
Not moral flaws. Not character. Not record or experience. The only thing people largely, as a group, care about is JUST how someone makes them feel in that moment. And a lot of poorly educated, mentally unwell people saw and heard Trump lying to the people they believe were the cause of all our woes, and that's why they voted for him.
If we ever want another democracy that works, we have to understand that our population is genetically and physically identical to the beings who were clubbing each other's heads in during ten thousand years of ice age glaciers and primitive hardship. We survived those times by forming tight-knight groups and telling ourselves stories for how to survive. We're doing the same things right now, but someone else is guiding those stories. Either we stop the storytellers or we make better stories that people will want to repeat. Those are our only options.
It's just them wanting to a) be right (when it's usually not the case) and 2) the other viewpoint to be silent immediately. They fuckin love censorship because first amendment only applies to them and theirs.
This happened before: https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Sophie_Scholl
a German student and anti-Nazi political activist, active within the White Rose non-violent resistance group in Nazi Germany. She was convicted of high treason after having been found distributing anti-war leaflets at the University of Munich(LMU) with her brother, Hans.
"Such a splendid sunny day, and I have to go. But how many have to die on the battlefield in these days, how many young, promising lives... What does my death matter if by our acts thousands are warned and alerted. Among the student body there will certainly be a revolt."
She's bae.
RIP hero
Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did.
Also, happening right now in russia with any anti-war protests
I'm more of a Black Orchestra but big props to the White Rose
Ah yes, that free speech that Musk is always taking about.
You're free to say whatever you want, as long as it doesn't hurt the president's feelings.
Ill do whatever the fuck I want bitch, shut the fuck up and go suck Elons dick.
go suck Elons dick.
that would be the fifth time today, give them a break
I didn’t think it was possible to hate this fucker more and more each day and yet here we are.
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
John F. Kennedy
We really need to tax the mega rich. I compiled this list of numbers after the President speech last night, it's kinda wild:
$ 99,000 - National Median Income is less than $100 thousand. $ 1,000,000 - 1 Million Dollars. $ 485,000,000 - Cut Funds to International Relations and whatever. $ 1,000,000,000 - 1 Billion Dollars. There are over 400 Billionaires in America. $ 22,000,000,000 - Cut Funds to American Social Serivces through HHS (Human & Health Services). $ 244,000,000,000 - Elon Musks Net Worth. $ 1,620,000,000,000 - 1 Trillion Dollars - Meta (Facebooks) Corporate Net Worth. $19,900,000,000,000 - The U.S. National Debt in Jan 2017 (Obama to Trump) $27,800,000,000,000 - The U.S. National Debt in Jan 2021 (Trump to Biden) $36,000,000,000,000 - The U.S. National Debt in Jan 2025 (Biden to Trump)Well there you go kids, he just explicitly named exactly all the things you should be doing.
What does he think "illegal" means? Is he getting rid of the first amendment?
That word doesn't mean anything to him, except as a tool to prosecute people he doesn't like. Obviously laws and illegality don't mean shit when it's him breaking the law.
Pretty sure there is enough evidence for treason at this point, but Congress won't act on it.
That word doesn’t mean anything to him
"Illegal" as in "illegal immigrants". It's a connotation word, it doesn't mean anything on its own obviously.
prosecute
*persecute
I think illigal means dissenting (or brown)..
In his mind (to clarify)
He also thinks he can order a private school to expell students.. he's just not smart.
But also that it's DEI DEMOCRAT OVERREACH to have a black woman in an administrative role.
Even if it works.. it would not label him as smart, just unreasonably powerful (money full)
Well he also did an executive order, that only he is allowed to interpret the law, so... Whatever he feels like is illegal is illegal.
Hey Muricans, this is what you wanted and voted for (or could't be bother voting to prevent)... enjoy
or, hit the streets and remove the fascist gov you elected
I feel like the overlap of fediverse users and trump voters is close to 0
I try not to let perfect be the enemy of good, but I do my bit to make them feel unwelcome.
I remember when the Democrats brought down the hammer hard on anti-genocide protestors in universities. Trump is doing the same, but expanding it to all protests.
May 10, 2024 Map: Where university protesters have been arrested across the United States
Did they use guns and kill people? Because that is what trump will be ordering - Kent state style
Killing protesters is too visible and often sparks outrage. Quietly deporting them or using behind-the-scenes methods to remove them is more discreet and allows the agenda to progress with less resistance.
Does "NO MASKS" mean that choosing to wear a mask to protect your health is now forbidden at colleges or is there another meaning that I don't understand? It is so random and has nothing to do with the rest of the post except for being "woke".
Probably making wearing any mask while protesting illegal, regardless of the legality of the protest itself.
Unless it's the proud boys with their uniforms, obviously.
Yeah a lot of states passed "you must carry a doctor's note to wear a mask in public" laws during COVID.
I've written to my Republican state lawmaker only to receive a form reply.
Wouldn't surprise me if they were STILL bitching about having been forced to wear masks 5 years ago lmaooo
Masks are for hiding your identity.
But perhaps the double context is intentional.
For loads of clinically vulnerable people, the right to protest is dependent on the right to mask. You can only risk going to a crowded protest if you’re allowed to use protective measures to prevent infections.
Not random, masks make it harder for the facial recognition cameras.
Well that's easy. The protests aren't illegal. Therefore this amounts to nothing.
Fuck this dude.
Checks fascist handbook. Jup. Checks out.
Yes, fuck this. And fuck the previous guy and every president before that.
They want violence.
Happy cake day!
Putin sure wants the US to tear itself apart and sever ties with western allies. And what's the Trump administration doing again...?
this is his plan all alone, one of inner circle wrote the book on geopolitics, and even in the 80 they deemed trump to a potential useful president one day.
Blue states need to start up their own shadow government, fund their own shit.
Californian here.
We should stop paying federal taxes.
We have a ton of money, a ton of military installations, and 1 in 8 Americans IS a Californian. Washington and Oregon join us, and we'd be in even better shape. Canada can get in on the action too.
A felon rapist traitor and his traitor party is making our Constitution irrelevant. Time to start looking out for ourselves.
WA state here - it's ridiculous that I have to subsidize chuds in Mississippi and Louisiana when they won't even give their citizens human rights. they're all about fiscal responsibility until it comes to paying their own fucking bills.
edit: love the chudvotes, do we have some cranky MS and LA types? pay your fucking bills jerkfaces. fuck, half your budgets come from federal funds we pour more into.
If we are going to do a tax protest we will need some kind of guarantees from the state government. Otherwise going to war with the IRS will not work. The IRS always wins.
I'm all for seceding into a socialist cascadia please and thanks
I'm not sure that's feasible, since the states don't just sign a check to the Feds once a year, it's paid via payroll taxes. To my knowledge, there is no kind of mechanism for entire states to collectively refuse payment.
isn't that kind of the idea of states? Them having their own budgets?
Well, yes, but I meant they to pool their budgets amongst themselves, like a mini federal government.
That costs money in state taxes, and the GOP is working on reducing the state and local tax deductions in the federal tax code. Making states who are trying to create good living conditions for their citizens prohibitively expensive to live in. It's horse shit.
Americans, you are living under a fascist regime.
We are very aware.
Ah there goes another thing that distinguished the USA from China and Russia.
Trump has a team of scientists sitting in a lab cooking up the worst possible tweet in response to every issue.
Is this real
God I hope not.
EDIT - It's real.
Archived link so we do not give him traffic.
https://archive.is/vzZ8k
Trump is following Hitler's cookbook: change the schools, small kids are easier to form/change than adults. I only hope teachers keep teaching what is honest and good!
Last time I checked, people had a right to peaceful assembly and to protest.
Check again
If they send the gestapo to crack skulls, who's going to stop them?
At this point and with all these new and ilogical rules, Trump is basically Dolores Umbridge!
We need a giant to take him down!
Let me see, USA becoming a dictatorship... BINGO!
This is something that only the Judiciary can declare (by failing to do anything), so I think it takes more than a few weeks.
But the Executive sure is working towards it.
The judiciary only has power if the executive accepts that it has power.
Look at what happens when you don’t burn the fascist the moment it pops up. It will get worse and then even more worse.
I wish the non-mouth breathing half of the US the best of luck.
Man, I wish this country still had the balls to deal with traitors the way they're supposed to be dealt with.
it goes, it goes, it goes, it goes, it goes...
GUILLOTINE
We need something like this for daytime.
Also, read up on what they are ultimately going for: Eliminating the First Amendment
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Trump supporters: "that's fine, the president isn't congress"
GG America. You better gear up for your own Maidan soon enough if you want to keep your rights.
The American people need to take the French route. “Off with their heads!”
The French would already have shutdown the airports, blockaded highways and lit a fire under Paris.
How many universities will abandon free speech rights for 10% of their budget? Hard to say, many abandoned them for less when students were protesting genocide.
It's the USA, the only things that matters is money. Universities are already run like business so dont expect anything else than financial decisions. It will just make usa even more under-educated if that's even possible. Higher education wont mean anything exceot that your parents are rich.
How many universities will abandon free speech rights for 10% of their budget?
All of them. Of course they'll frame it like "to enable our storied institution to continue performing our vital work, we are temporarily putting a moratorium on non-pre-approved meetings. Thank you for your understanding."
Democrazzzymaxxing
"You know the best strategy to counter this is to do nothing, it will burn itself out after awhile. If a few people die or get imprisoned well that's okay as long as I don't have to do anything difficult or will affect my portfolio and control. "
obviously I made this quote up but it is how I feel about the people in power that say they are against this administration but really are doing jack shit to support or engage the population. Sure there are some that are doing somethings and I appreciate that, but fuck man do most of the "opposition" party really not have a spine? Like what the fuck, there are millions of citizens that are genuinely scared for their life and freedom and all we are getting is crickets...
some colleges in the west are already suffering from low enrollment as it is to the point they had to slash faculty and classes depending on the field, and some schools are even worst off(this is mostly for state univ that arnt very prestigious), more than likely he will do this to most liberal colleges, and it will quickly depopulate the already dwindling student body in some schools. also the one-to-punch of anti-intellectual and the funding for research is also in jeopardy. more expensive schools with more prestige much be able to weather this, since they are less likely to be affected by these cuts that the schools are going through currently at lower levels.
I'm masking and spray painting cameras. Cry about it, butterball.
I am not American, I was in the border of anarchism before all this but now I am full anarchist.
Thanks Orange man.
🖤♥️
I wonder how will be the US's method for 'accidental demise' moving foward.
Defenestration is already taken by Russia, but Trump is not that original, so I'm guessing he'll use the same method, considering he's working form Putin and all.Do not comply in advance.
Do not comply after the fact either.
We need to be taking to the streets now. He’s purging the military so when we finally do there won’t be any dissent when he orders them to flatten us.
Illegal protests? Isn't protesting legal? Freedom of speech and all that...
Only if it's hate speech, I guess
So he's saying Schools aren't allowed to let Nazis protest that minorities are allowed to attend the school?
Protests that occupy a road apparantly requires a permit. 🤔
You heard the man, fire any employee and expel any student who participated in the January 6 insurrection.
Taken right out from a latin america's dictator playbook.
He love the uneducated
Is this really a science meme?
You don't get science without education.
Political science
Trump's such a petty bitch
Now apply that law retroactively to catch all women's March supporters cuz fuck women right? And then all the other civil rights matches before women's. They're gonna catch me for protesting migrants Rights during prop 187?? Back in 1998? Those were the days...just the government trying to fuck up the world slowly with room for lube. Trump is power tool going full send after everyone's rights. WTF get the guy out already!!!!
Well, protests aren't illegal, so there's nothing to worry about, right?
Errr, they can be illegal if they break other laws, like obstructing traffic, damaging property, or trespass on private property. It's manageable with small groups, but it's hard to coordinate an angry, large group to not do that. That's when they call in police and that's when they make arrests.
Its crazy us colleges get federal funding after asking like 6 digit tuition feom students.
the tuition is largely from federal loans.
America sure does love its extra, pointless middlemen. Lol
Land of the free, eh?
FrEeDOm!
King Trump be like
Don't worry! Once the people who Defend the Constitution after SCORES OF 6 YEAR OLDS GET MOWED DOWN BY A GUNMAN hear about this they'll be PISSED and Take Action!
Finally, free speech! (/s, obv)
This is really real? Holy shit
is this a joke? or actually posted?
It's real, chat. There's a link in the comments somewhere.
What’s our over/under for how long until the executive order that conveniently pushes the boundaries of what “illegal” is.
I'm honestly worried about a mask ban EO, without any exceptions for medical or other purposes, partially because I hate the destructive use of AI and facial recognition tech, partially because I hate ableism, partially because I love public health, among other reasons. I think protecting your identity is not just a right but a moral imperative when taking certain positive and productive actions, so you have the chance to continue the work. In addition I think protecting oneself and others from airborne diseases is a must if one intends to abide by a policy of harm reduction, pollution is another concern as well.
Third times the charm. C’mon someone!
He knows people can see this, right?
Of course he does. His whole ascent to Presidency has had plenty on display. This isn't new. It's because people see him behave this way that he got this far. That's the problem.
"Guess I will just get sick and fucking die."
-Everyone with an autoimmune disease
I dare you, you fat fuck. Do it. Arrest a citizen for exercising free speech. I want to see that second amendment used on you, you wannabe king.
“Have fun!”
Is the President trying to tell private institutions who they can do business with?
Why I never!
Lol who is this guy, the chief of police?
Hey, completely unrelated note, who here has watched Winter on Fire?
Sure are a lot of suckers making policy over in the USA at the moment...
True Terrorism
Great post, but where is the meme?...
The fool is literally begging someone to put him out of our misery
That's why he wears that stupid bright red hat all the time, so even a rookie should know what to line the dot up with.
mr. grab-em-by-the-funding doing his thing.
Full on free speech is dead if this is the norm, fuck them keep up the protests
Stay in your lane, Tim.
Fuck this is correct.
Make sure to keep blaming "rednecks" and "hillbillies", and not the billionaire backers of MAGA who own various media outlets and some of the largest companies in the world.
I've not seen that happen in quite a while, especially post election.
There's some of it in the comments of this post
Cool, when's the protest hosted by college students? I'll go too.
So make sure you protest off campus so the school can't be blamed!
Sure sounds like an easy way to make a lot of money from a lawsuit for a student or students.
Jesus wept.
If only y'all had some sort of constitution with some sort of amendment that ment you had free speech and another that said you had weapons with which to defend said constitution.
Re the 1st amendment, sure. But the 2nd amendment link between weapon ownership and defense of freedom has been comprehensively nullified by the United States Supreme Court (via gross judicial overreach in their 2008 decision on DC v. Heller).
Then they're also the enemy.
They're deliberately corrupting the meaning of your constitution to weaken the people.
LOL
...i mean you gotta give the orange one credit for making a show every day.
In no way am I defending this behavior but wouldn't this only apply to public universities and colleges? The many that are technically private property can entirely ignore this correct?
science meme? ok, i'll bite. fuck this indeed, imagine being Jewish in the past year, and being harassed and bullied from the "from the river to the sea" folks on campus, made to feel unsafe and targeted, not because you're Israeli, but simply because you're Jewish, and when you complain, being met with feckless and indignant school administration saying "free speech bro". broken clock right twice a day, and all that. time to make American Jihadis, and the nihilist leftists that support them, think twice, about what it's going to cost them to continue to terrorize Jews. this all could have been self policed, limits placed internally at just how far and how intense the "protests" were allowed to become, but it was an orgy of Antisemitism, and now, at least this Jew, is glad the hammer is coming down, though I wish it were from someone else, i'm glad for it just the same
I mean, fuck antisemitism in any form, obviously...
...but I'm going to say "allow fascists to eliminate freedom of protest" has a spotty track record improving that particular issue.
This guy is in power in no small part due to whatever definition for not-fascist Americans you want to use not showing up because they feel compromise is beneath them. Maybe it's time to learn that lesson.
Well, no, the time to learn that lesson was November. I guess it's finding out time. For people too rightfully indignant about the genocide in Gaza to look past their own noses and to people in your situation alike, I'm afraid.
Friendly reminder that Trump refused to condemn a group of white supremacists chanting "Jews will not replace us".
He is not on your side. And, if history is any indication, allowing government to control speech and expression by fascist means is much more dangerous to Jews than any group of student protesters could ever be.
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I'm sure it must be a stressful time for Jewish people. All hate crime is horrible. Many people, Jewish and non-Jewish, oppose the actions of Israel.
I do hope the protests, to stop US arms being sent to Israel, grow in strength. And I do what I can personally to help.
When looking at the numbers its no exaggeration to say that the Palestinian people are being slaughtered by the Israel military.
- On October 7, 2023 Israel was attacked killing 1200 Israelis. Israel's response to the attack has been completely disproportionate and has now (as of June 2024) killed over 7,797 children. In the same time the conflict killed 53 children in Israel.
- The most conservative estimate is that 7,797 Palestinian children have been killed, in the same time it is estimated that the total Israeli casualties; including military and civilian, including men, women, and children is 1200.
- on April 24, 2024 with many thousands of Palestinian children already dead, the US gave 14 billion in aid to Israel
- Neither US political party is stopping this.
Here are my sources, I am always interested to have other sources.
- I tried to pick from a range of sources and tried to include any statistic that made my argument weakest. Most of the numbers come from June to August of 2024.
- How many Palestinians have been killed? May 2024 Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said 30,000 https://time.com/6979208/israel-gaza-death-toll/ The Gaza Ministry of Health said that 36,379 people had been killed by the end of May 2024, https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-gaza-deaths-women-children-360c6aabc03421c718d4a8452cec2c67 The associated press reported 40,005 in August 2024. https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-gaza-war-palestinians-statistics-40000-7ebec13101f6d08fe10cedbf5e172dde
- How many of the Palestinian deaths were combatants? hamas officials say 6000 to 8000 https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israels-six-week-drive-hit-hamas-rafah-scale-back-war-2024-02-19/, https://time.com/6979208/israel-gaza-death-toll/ Netanyahu says 14,000 combatants https://time.com/6979208/israel-gaza-death-toll/
- How many of the Palestinian deaths were civilians? Many articles state that most of the Palestinian death records don't include combatant/non-combatant designations. The most common statistic given in this context is deaths of women and children. of those killed 58 to 48% were women and children https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-794306 of 24,686 identified casualties: 7,797 children (32%), 4,959 women (20%), 1,924 elderly (8%) https://www.unocha.org/publications/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/reported-impact-snapshot-gaza-strip-3-july-2024-1500 Netanyahu said "probably around 16,000 civilians have been killed" https://www.politifact.com/article/2024/may/24/the-un-adjusted-its-gaza-fatality-reporting-heres/
- How many Israelis have been killed? 1,200 in israel plus 320 israeli combatants in Gaza https://www.unocha.org/publications/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/reported-impact-snapshot-gaza-strip-3-july-2024-1500 1,200 in the oct 7 2023 attack https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-revises-death-toll-from-oct-7-hamas-assault-dropping-it-from-1400-to-1200/
- How many of the Israeli deaths were combatants? 318 of the 1,200 killed in the oct 7 2023 attack were combatants: https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-revises-death-toll-from-oct-7-hamas-assault-dropping-it-from-1400-to-1200/
- How many of the Israeli deaths were civilians? of the 1,162 identified fatalities, at least 33 were children https://www.unocha.org/publications/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/reported-impact-snapshot-gaza-strip-3-july-2024-1500 53 children killed in israel https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-gaza-war-palestinians-statistics-40000-7ebec13101f6d08fe10cedbf5e172dde
This position is interesting. It's echoed in articles like:
https://jewishjournal.com/culture/first_person/300258/when-the-chicken-votes-for-colonel-sanders/
Sometimes couched as anti-Israel, we find supporters of discrimination in their spheres of influence, including Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) and Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.), spouting prejudices with hubris while their party’s leadership, Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, remain mostly silent.
German Jews recognize they safely exist only through police protection, who park outside German synagogues to prevent anti-Semitic violence. In Poland, the home of Auschwitz, anti-Semitism has become so accepted it blatantly is part of the platform of the National Democratic Party, known as “Endeks.”
And they assert this bit of history as evidence:
From 1921 to 1935, there was a group named the Association of German National Jews (Verband national Deutsche Juden), whose goal was the total assimilation of Jews into German culture; the self-eradication of Jewish identity; the expulsion of all Eastern European Jews from Germany; and a radical hatred of Zionism. Sadly, these seem like the same goals of many Jews in America choosing to deny the faith and practices of their ancestors in favor of secularizing themselves. On some level — often unconscious — they believe if they deny their Judaism and go along with the anti-Semitic rhetoric, non-Jewish Americans will better accept them. Unfortunately, they are avoiding looking at history.
To me, it sounds like the argument is being framed as "us" Jews and "them" Jews making the mistake of trying to homogenize. That's tremendously ironic, as this type of thinking is exactly what led them to support Nazi Germany. The exact kind of language Trump use, aggressive, bombastic pursuit of "agitators" as undesirables, of ignoring antisemites and bigots Trump associates himself with, of dismissing his speech as a "rhetorical tool," is what German Jewish groups believed would protect them... Until Nazis came for them, too.
Maybe antisemetic violence should be curbed, but you should consider what's actually causing it, and how that "curbing" will be done.
"The Jews are the cause of Antisemitism" yes, how novel, why didn't anyone else think of that, oh, that's right, literally every other band of Antisemites throughout all time have used that line of reasoning,"why can't the Jews, you know, be less Jewish, we are absolutely within our rights to terrorize them until they see the light". "Maybe antisemitic violence should be curbed" "Maybe". Quite.
