I'm not arguing how we punish people I'm arguing why do we punish people What's the point of putting a person in jail or prison for some length of time if, when the get out they are still saddled with their crime?

You are talking about the conviction, I am talking about the punishment. We the people of this country decide what the punishments are for crimes.

So in the case of a murder conviction it maybe decided that this person has to be incarcerated for 20 years. They do their time and released. They did the punishment We decided as appropriate for the crime. They are done.

In your example again We the people get to decide the punishment. It could be (and probably is) part of the punishment that a convicted child molester can never have a job working with people under a certain age. Maybe in this case the punishment can never fully be carried out so they always carry the moniker of felon/child molester.

All I'm saying is that for those crimes that have a definitive start and end point for the punishment there should be a qualifying start and end point for the title of felon.

I have not read the ruling but if this is how it goes then it feels like a slow burn coup by the SCOTUS. The fate of every decision of the president is in the hands of these justices. They now control what is 'official' and what is not. They now control the president in some way.

or maybe (hopefully) I'm wrong.

Yes. What gets me is how people devalue humans. That if our linage doesn't come from aliens then somehow we are not special?

I'd say everything that had to happen for humans to exist is more impressive than "aliens"

Wait so a super technologically advanced life form that is able to travel through the universe easily doesn't have the knowledge to create technology that can mine for gold on a different planet? That instead they need slaves?

I mean if you are going to go down this crazy route at least make it more plausible!

How about if a person successfully and fully completes their sentence associated with the felony(s) that they were charged with the felony is removed from their record.

We as a country have decided that certain punishments are meted out for certain crimes. If the person serves the punishment that we the people have decided is appropriate then why are they still saddled with the sentence of their former crime after the punishment is served?

Because there are some Democrats that have held on to their seats for many many years and are too fucking scared to do anything "out of the norm" because they may lose their seat. There are also some Republicans that will state they don't like the ruling but are also too afraid of the loss of their seat to actually do anything for the country the swore to protect.

Ultimately it comes down to the fact that there are not enough brave representatives in Congress and the Senate to take on this problem. They all talk a big talk but if their actions reduce the chances of their reelection then they are out.

yeah, but that takes work and money - you know what's free? blame.

It would be cool if a private citizen or two set up tables around Idaho towns and just gave away these banned books to anyone that wanted them. The fear is those people that follow the teaching of a peace loving hippie that lived 2000 years ago would probably beat them up and threaten to kill them.

I like to think about it differently: That this planet is an incredibly unique and rare thing and humans are even more incredibly unique in the universe. And from that one thing makes us and our planet very very special.

but now we have a scapegoat

I totally agree this isn't a easy fix and it will take decades to change but I feel that should be a challenge for the US to start making the change not a reason to keep the status quo.

I mean, if we genuinely had a significant amount of local, state and federal law makers that cared about protecting their constituents instead of whatever the fuck they are doing now, we could have some accountability.

What frustrates me is there doesn't seem to be anyone in a position to promote change to this problem that is really talking about it. They may pay it lip service but nothing beyond that.

I remember having to modify my config.sys to get the original Doom to run on my Dell Gateway computer so I guess I'm fucking old...

Because to many people politics is a team sport - their team is always right the opposing team is always wrong.

So if the refs call a foul on their team then it was a bullshit call, but on the other team then it was fair.

I was thinking of appealing my parking ticket to the Supreme Court by using the defense that the officer that issued the ticket did it to keep me from voting and .... uh ... freedom.

Yes. but those people that lose their jobs wouldn't have to stress about either paying for or using healthcare - This freedom can give many people the opportunity to do something they love (or like to do). Maybe that is starting a new business or creating a new product? Or they could go work in a different industry that they find more fulfilling where previous they couldn't because of the lack of health benefits.

I think in the long run the people that lose their job grinding away in a huge faceless health insurance job might actually be a good thing for them?

Some people just don't like silly videos I guess ...

I would think there would be other federal agencies that are interested in breaking down the line items in the Other Income field.