Jack Black cancels Tenacious D tour and places future projects on hold after Kyle Gass comments on Trump

What joke? Hopefully the next person doesn't miss.

Yeah like he's not wrong, but maybe don't say it on stage in front of everybody and God at your job that you and your coworkers are depending on to pay the bills. I'm sure none of them are living paycheck to paycheck but art also doesn't make as much money as people like to think, especially in this day and age, and I'm not going to fault any one individual for playing it safe these days.

I was with you right up until you used based...

Now I'm blocking you to cut down on the borked brain comments I see.

“I wonder how Paul Pelosi is feeling.” Roaring laughter

Reap what you sow by definition.

One of the stupidest quotes in the history of quotes.

I was hoping the "excitement" of almost being killed would have lead to a heart attack, but who am I kidding? This is The Worst Timeline™ everything goes to shit and the absolute worst of us live forever and get everything they want...

a shit show yes, but maybe less of a shitshow than a second term as POTUS.

He’s a very popular actor/musician that isn’t looking to wade into any controversy that might damage his popular brand.

I think he mostly doesn't want to get shot by angry Magats.

Just privileged and out of touch. You'd think he's a celebrity or something.

Exactly. This wasn't an attempt on your run of the mill republican shitbag. This man is a real fucking threat and so are all of his supporters/followers.

I wouldn’t say strange, so much as disappointing.

We feel like we have relationships with entertainers, and most of the time we feel they represent - well, something other than corporate fence sitting. Being reminded they’re a product more than a person really sucks the air out of the room.

I imagine personal safety is also a major factor. Concert security is a joke. KG making that comments paints a target on both of their backs.

They are domestic terrorists. Don't underestimate them.

Still, disappointing that JB has taken such a stance that seems to be neutral on hate and violence.

That's a good point. I just couldn't imagine doing that to my long time friend.

Basically this. Even if they wanted to continue the tour, Gass just massively increased the chance of another mass shooting by some nut job out to get revenge. If that had really happened, it would've completely sunk everyone involved and people would be claiming that they were the ones that invited the catastrophe.

That's... pretty fair. It's easy to say things online, but Gass just made things very hard for concert security. How hard would it be for a right winger to sneak a gun into a concert and get close to the stage?

That's a fair take. I've been very frustrated with the respectability politics this week and it might be a bit unfair to him, as he isn't a political figure, but an entertainer who didn't initially choose to say anything. I can't say I'd throw my boy under the bus like that, but I'm not him.

This is a strange take to me. Nervous laughter is, famously, a thing. You can simultaneously be surprised by something that was said, not actually support it, but still laugh. Especially when you're in the middle of a show, literally on a stage, in front of thousands of people.

I guess we'll see how you feel when trumps supreme court sanctioned death squads of deputized gravy seals are murdering and raping in your neighborhood.

You must be another individual that'll be safe under the reich.

Well said. Jack Black is the fun guy making fun music. He's obviously not pro-Trump but he's a professional - I don't blame him for not wanting to be associated with comments like that for the time being.

I'm a little disappointed with the phrasing of the announcement but there's unfortunately a high chance Trump will be president and he's pretty outspoken about getting rid of his critics.

This isn't anything new. There's a whole lot of people on the Fediverse who throw the word Fascist around willy nilly but who will happily make use of Fascist rethoric in regards to those who they see as political enemies.

They seem to think that the bad thing about Fascism isn't the authoritarianism, political violence, censorship, etc, but the fact it's a "right wing" government behind those - those would all be perfectly justifiable means to an end in the name of a left wing movement.

I see this happening more in american politics than over here, and I think it's in part a lack of knowledge of history, but also never having had an actual fascist regime in the country's recent history. My parents were tortured by the political police. I have a bunch of family who lived under an actual Fascist regime, and colleagues from other countries with a recent history similar to mine, and I notice that people in general, even in the far left, are way more careful about how they use the word Fascist. American internet "leftists" - which I put in quotes because many don't seem to actually hold any left wing views - love LARPing about living under fascism and that somehow excusing every thing they claim Fascism is bad for - against their political enemies.

Yeah... pointing to the Zionist who just got canceled For being sexually inappropriate on set and to defend himself released a video of himself being sexually inappropriate on set isn't the defense you think it is. Even his wife left him.

And no offense to the gas man. I'm a 35-year-old white guy. I've been in love with the gas man for two decades now. But be honest with yourself, Most people don't know about Tenacious D. The second biggest category think of Tenacious D as Jack Black's band with that guy. That doesn't really compete with Bowser from Mario levels of fame.

we're so fucking high right now we can't see the people below being eaten alive and actual Nazi flags being flown to scare people from voting. but hey, it's cooler up here.

I really fucking hate the constant “we go high” shit.

The guy that took a shot at Trump was a Republican. And the guy who would have inevitably driven a car-sized fertilizer bomb into a crowd of Tenacious D fans would also be a Republican.

This isn't "going high", its self-preservation. We live in a fascist country swarming with fascist cops and fascist vigilantes, and we need to fucking act like it. Every concert going forward would have had insane security costs because of this one off-handed remark.

Biden's speech at the NAACP was pretty good, and his calls to revamp the Supreme Court and make a new amendment were pretty cool

Well, seeing as going low does nothing but exacerbate this whole "us vs. them" mentality we have right now, which is how we're stuck in this situation in the first place... maybe get the fuck over it?

Recently had to take a trip to the USA for work and it felt surreal... all the posters of whatever celebrity with captions like "XYZ wants you to stop littering" or "Such-and-Such only use Colgate". It felt like a brain washing operation for toddlers (and this was at the airport)

We are in a war for our future right now and we can take all the help we can get.

Nobody needs anything but to have access to the most famous people in the world, the most money in the world, and the biggest markets in the world, and not put them all together is just bad business.

Russian troll or just a fucking idiot?

Still voting Biden.

Shut up.

He could be a corpse and still would be a far better choice than Trump.

That part I understand, its the "put future projects on haitus" I'm commenting about. Although I guess I gave more detail in my other comment than I did this one so fair play

And doesn't this go both ways? One of my favorite sayings is: a friend is someone who when you've made a fool of yourself, doesn't think you've done a permanent job of it. Perhaps Jack Black could forgive his best friend and move along. Perhaps make a joint statement at the next event.

Looks like Kyle doesn't give a fuck more.

Jack did a fundraiser for Biden. I suspect he's just toeing the Dem line on this one. Doesn't really want to see "Democrat fundraiser calls for death of Trump" splashed across the news.

The trick is to choose what to not give a fuck about.

Jack black doesn't give a fuck about others opinions of his appearance.

He does give a fuck about death threats.

Seems pretty sensible and reasonable to me.

Why? Because he's not ok with his band mate saying on stage someone should be murdered?

Nothing and no one can harm the old Rage Kage again...

Glad we're finally acknowledging that shit is real

The problem being the other half isn't.

I guess attempting to kill and joking about killing Trump is a privilege that only republicans enjoy

TIL, huh.

Lede feels like it only exists for that expression, unless you're in journalism. The biggest irony is it's actually a 1950s alteration of lead, but the expression came out of journalism so here we are.

Food for thought, this is what a win for terrorists looks like. When you can't make a joke for fear of violence, that's the goal of the violence.

Maybe. It seems like a bit of an overreaction to me, and I really don't like the idea that we can't say mean things about their god emperor because they'll get mad and be violent. Has Muslim and Mohammed vibes.

He already apologized and said he was wrong to say it.

I think it’s more like “don’t publicly stand for political violence towards fascists because their base is unhinged and you bring the violence on yourself”. Also, the violence has given the fascists power. Right now, the dems defense has to be damage control. I know many people wish Trump had been taken out (especially by another republican) but it didn’t happen, most likely won’t now, and dems need to put on a “we don’t condone violence” face so they can maybe try to win.

I think standing up to fascism is different from putting yourself on a stage in front of potential cult members looking for retaliation. The guy is a comedian/actor/musician, he's not looking to take a bullet from some unhinged wacko to somehow prove ... fascism bad?

How many here talking shit are planning to do a soapbox tour of the US calling for Trump's death? Just putting yourself out in front of a crowd of potentially unhinged folks, unarmed, to try and prove some kind of point.

Nah, Xhieron has a point. You don't want to piss off a radicalized group of gun-toting rednecks. All it takes is one extremist right-wing nutjob and a loaded firearm to end your life.

I mean a 20 year old incel came within inches of killing Trump at a rally, and unlike Donald, Tenacious D and their crew do not have the luxury of secret service protection.

its one thing to willingly make yourself a target, but another to put your friends in the crossfire without their consent. Not just Jack but their crew, fans, venue staff, etc

"don't invoke violence in an emotionally charged environment with thousands of people, especially when it puts your friends and coworkers in the crossfire."

He swims in money. And their financial success would continue regardless.

money > convictions

It would make him money to continue the tour, not to cancel it

Then let's go with the alternative: Man overreacts and acts self righteous over a joke. Cancels other people's plans.

This is why I blocked lemmy.ml, along with hexbear.net and lemmygrad.ml - too bad those user blocks are so ineffective and still show every comment from every user from there.

I'd have a lot of energy too if i'd make millions of dollars to sing mediocre songs.

The answer is drugs

Edit: do you guys actually think people dont take any drugs for these massive stage performances?