As someone who owns too many cowboy hats, pearl snap shirts, and works occasionally on my buddy's ranch, I appreciate that.
I actually don't mind the cosplay cowboys and usually turn the other cheek in matters of fashion because I just can't give a shit. But this is fucking idiotic.
My daughter moved from Texas up to the Northeast about five years ago. One of the differences she observed is that she says it's a lot easier to tell which people are idiots in Texas because they advertise it. The northeasterners keep it closer to the vest.
I'm a Freemason and the amount of bigotry among the older brethren is unreal. I've learned many new slurs for Italian people, for instance. Who's that racist against Italians? Irish boomers.
At any rate, the younger guys (few and far between, sadly) are all pretty much equally turned off, but Freemasonry is dying and the old guys are partially to blame, in my opinion.
Youd think Irish boomers would be racist against the English, ya reap what ya sow and all that. The fuck did the Italians ever do to the Irish, the closest thing I can actively think of wad solved pretty fucken quickly by Niall of the Nine Hostages.
I'm one of the youngest at my lodge, and I feel this. It was very different when I first started. I'm building us a new website to help keep with the times, but there's only so much that can achieve.
I'm my time I've observed most people fall into one of two groups: those passionate about exploring the esoterica and symbolism, and those who treat it like a social club. The old guys are mostly in the second group, young guys are mostly in the first. I see much more interest in the craft itself among gen X and millennials.
I think as the older guys start passing on in the next 10-20 years, we'll begin to see a marked decline in that old head boomer bigotry as gen X becomes the old head. We'll probably continue see a decline in membership for a bit in the immediate future, but I think there will be much more retention of younger brothers as focus shifts from socializing to practice of the craft.
Some old dude tried to recruit me to the Freemasons back in the 00's. I noped the fuck out of there after I discovered the racism. Just because I look like one of you, doesn't mean I am one of you.
That's not his handbag. His wife left it there as a decoy while she "went to the little girls' room."
Actually she's taken the car with her real handbag and is already 20 miles down I-80, headed to California for an abortion, a restraining order, and a new life.
can someone give me a genuine reason why people are voting for the guy who is a convicted felon, has colluded with national governments, and engaged in corruption, as well as tried to literally overthrow the government. STILL refuses to accept the results of that election.
in good faith. No shitposting please, it's funny, but i don't fucking understand it, and i want answers.
that's a possibility, and if trump doesn't win this race, it's extremely unlikely the RNC runs him again, so the question is how many of those voters are unwavering trump supporters that would kill any chance of an RNC candidate winning again.
but it also just, doesn't feel super likely to me either, like we're talking about heavens gate level shit, which is possible, i think it's more likely that these people are simply delusional, and just stupid and misinformed, as harsh as that is.
Well from my understanding of what Trump supporters think let's answer those in order.
He's not a convicted felon, they were sham political trials by the Democrats so he's not really a felon. The collusion with foreign governments is fake news and also Biden has done it too with the whole Ukraine and Hunter Biden's laptop thing. He's not corrupt because he's rich and can't be owned by corporate interests unlike Democrats and other Republicans. And the overthrowing the government and election stuff is him fighting for the truth because it was the Democrats who stole the election.
That's about what they think from my understanding and the problem with fighting against that stuff is that in some cases it's just a fundamentally different reality then what's actually happening. They're just in too deep and won't ever think critically or realize they've been duped into believing all this crazy stuff.
that's a definite possibility. But i feel like a significant portion of these people would also be the kind of person where if i showed up with a shotgun, and told them it was unloaded, and then had them point it at themselves and pull the trigger they would end up blown to bits.
Like i feel like if you're this comprehensively mind fucked, you would be expected to be generally mind fucked as well, to recap, they believe the ENTIRE political apparatus is ENTIRELY corrupt and biased solely against trump.
And we do see some of this, jan 6th deniers like that google whistleblower buy just being general conspiracy theorists. But this would surely only account for like 10-20% of the vote at max. There has to be some universal reality between these people other than they're all literally fucking insane.
A thing that really bothers me, is that this isn't like vaccine shit where the data isn't super readily accessible, shit like jan 6th is heavily documented and just out there for you to watch and consume what actually happened. Which is why we see the "it was a psyop" people crop up, but these people are just legitimately insane.
The libs took the power and the control, they are evil. They abort babies, they change the gender of our children. Their system is what accused, judged and sentenced Trump. We have to vote for him to free this beloved country from this evil. Trump is our only guy that can do that. We have to vote for him. And hopefully after Trump is elected he will fix our broken system that brought the libs to power. And they wont be allowed to power ever again.
Not my opinion of course, but I have friends that say exactly this.
The libs took the power and the control, they are evil.
i have never once seen any evidence of this being the case, every statement about this has been pure schizophrenia in my experience. This is also like, a fucking massive claim.
Their system is what accused, judged and sentenced Trump.
who actually committed crimes, numerous times, and is demonstrably corrupt.
And hopefully after Trump is elected he will fix our broken system that brought the libs to power. And they wont be allowed to power ever again.
he was president for a single term and did basically fuck all. He passed like 5 things.
Not my opinion of course, but I have friends that say exactly this.
it takes like 12 seconds to fact check ANY of these things. Why don't they do it?
Some people it is a sunk cost fallacy. They went all in on Trump in '16 as the outside, antiestablishment candidate. They alienated friends and family either emulating him or just repeating his insults. Then once alienated from friends family they found solace in other people who experienced similar outcomes. This only reinforced their ideas that they were right all along. Trump not only winning but being right about everything is the only way they think they will be vindicated. If Trump is right then sooner or later those that cut ties with them will come back. If Trump is/was wrong, then they are wrong and if they are wrong they have lost years with loved ones, maybe the rest of their lives with those people due to their actions. Trump is all they have now and they need him to win/be right.
Others I think are just good old conspiracy weirdos. They may or may not have voted for Trump in '16, but Q Anon or Covid conspiracies or Pizzagate got them wrapped up and Trump is their winning hand. He is their way to unraveling some deep seeded conspiracy where all the bad things in the world are the fault of a few people like Bill Gates or George Soros. Trump is also their retribution for all the bad things that have happened and Trump plays into this saying they are after you but he is in the way.
There are probably a few who are just grifters. They dont give a fuck about any MAGA stuff and only are in it to make a buck. They have now seen how MAGA will turn on you if you speak out like Rogan or Rittenhouse and their only choice is to keep on grifting.
Still others I think are people who are in the right wing news bubble. Decades of Fox news or Newsmaxx/OANN, combined with right wong talk radio of hearing how all Dems are evil or working with the literal Christian devil and Trump is the only person you can vote for. Third party candidates you probably never hear of and if all you see/hear is how good Trump is and any bad things happening to him is the fault of Dems then you have no choice but to vote for Trump. I mean would you vote for someone you thought was an avatar of evil?
Finally are probably the ones who I think literally want to be part of a dictator state. Trump is a means to an end. Project 2025 lays out their plans to usurp the entire government with sycophants. They would weild the levers of power to ensure they never have a serious opposition candidate again. The chants of "lock her up" will be replaced with actions. Anyone even remotely left of them would be in danger of being labeled a radical and in need of being arrested and likely never see the inside of a court room.
Most probably hit a few of these but I think these are the major reasons people are for Trump despite his negatives. I think if you ask people though one of these will likely be the main reason.
Some people it is a sunk cost fallacy. They went all in on Trump in '16 as the outside, antiestablishment candidate. They alienated friends and family either emulating him or just repeating his insults. Then once alienated from friends family they found solace in other people who experienced similar outcomes. This only reinforced their ideas that they were right all along. Trump not only winning but being right about everything is the only way they think they will be vindicated. If Trump is right then sooner or later those that cut ties with them will come back. If Trump is/was wrong, then they are wrong and if they are wrong they have lost years with loved ones, maybe the rest of their lives with those people due to their actions. Trump is all they have now and they need him to win/be right.
yeah this seems like one of the more probable options for a percentage of them.
Others I think are just good old conspiracy weirdos. They may or may not have voted for Trump in '16, but Q Anon or Covid conspiracies or Pizzagate got them wrapped up and Trump is their winning hand. He is their way to unraveling some deep seeded conspiracy where all the bad things in the world are the fault of a few people like Bill Gates or George Soros. Trump is also their retribution for all the bad things that have happened and Trump plays into this saying they are after you but he is in the way.
i suspect this one has to be less than like 5% but it's definitely there.
Still others I think are people who are in the right wing news bubble. Decades of Fox news or Newsmaxx/OANN, combined with right wong talk radio of hearing how all Dems are evil or working with the literal Christian devil and Trump is the only person you can vote for. Third party candidates you probably never hear of and if all you see/hear is how good Trump is and any bad things happening to him is the fault of Dems then you have no choice but to vote for Trump. I mean would you vote for someone you thought was an avatar of evil?
i think this is probably the majority of it, but my fundamental problem here is that this has gone so far that these people MUST have a fundamental disconnection with reality. I.E. be delusional, because it literally takes 5 seconds of googling, catching a random clip of kamalas campaign, seeing some of the legislation that biden passed, seeing how trump just grenades everything at every chance he gets, jan 6th literally being an attempted coup? Like there are SO many possibilities for people to realize "hey something isn't right here" and they've either ignored ALL of them, or they simply don't believe any of them, making them delusional. So either these people literally don't interact with politics AT ALL outside of like three minutes a day. Or they're the type of person to go bomb a government building because someone on twitter said they rape babies in the basement. There's a fine line between "they just exist in the right wing sphere" and "the entire right wing sphere is a delusional cult" here. Fox news was also sued and lost the dominion voting machine case also, they SHOULD have heard about that, even as a fox news viewer. So either fox is twisting the truth and lying more (or the other outlets) or they literally do not see anything outside of these outlets.
Finally are probably the ones who I think literally want to be part of a dictator state. Trump is a means to an end. Project 2025 lays out their plans to usurp the entire government with sycophants. They would weild the levers of power to ensure they never have a serious opposition candidate again. The chants of “lock her up” will be replaced with actions. Anyone even remotely left of them would be in danger of being labeled a radical and in need of being arrested and likely never see the inside of a court room.
i think this is probably a subset of the first two. More than anything else.
Most probably hit a few of these but I think these are the major reasons people are for Trump despite his negatives. I think if you ask people though one of these will likely be the main reason.
yeah i would generally agree, but i'm concerned that this is still apparently at least 40% of our voter base? Like to me, it has to be SO far out there that 40% of the population genuinely cannot in good faith believe this. So either the vast majority of our population has the political acuity of a rock in front of a television, or they're all bad faith. And if it's the former... we're fucked. Politics was never meant to be this surface level. It's a functional mechanism for governing one of the largest countries by most metrics in the world. There is no "yeah it's probably fine" here for me. Another problem that i have is that this is all behind the functioning of fascism, which means a significant portion of our population is directly susceptible to literal fascism. That as far as i am concerned, is a failure of the american project.
You see lots of people say that, "It's a cult." and leave it at that.
It absolutely has elements of a new religious movement. They have been brainwashed by YouTube, Facebook groups, telegram or whatever messaging app they're using now. Real big overlap between Qanon and hardcore MAGAts.
It plays into their bias and tells them they're special, that they see behind the curtain. Their life is miserable due to a conspiracy by the evil liberals, the 1%, and the Jews.
It short circuits logic by punching the fear and anger button. Most of them are angry and afraid.
Chump didn't plan this shit, it's like a perfect storm of bullshit.
Sucks real bad and I don't think there is any way to help most of them. They're bent for life even if Chump is gone. They'll latch on to the next thing. May fracture into a bunch of weird offshoots. Right wing grifters have made fortunes off them. I think it unlikely that many of them ever make it back to reality.
that's possible but then these people are potentially classified as election interference causing people, as they aren't voting to vote anymore. But then again maybe that's good enough for democracy.
I am genuinely curious, I don't try to be smug. So please don't get this wrong, but I have to ask: is it legal & OK in the US to take pictures of people w/o their consent?
Outside of using someone's likeness for commercial gain, pretty much anywhere that is public property you can't be stopped from photographing anything you can see. Private property can make their own rules but all they can do is trespass you and kick you out, it's still not illegal. Public photography is generally protected under the first amendment free press.
While it is legal to take pictures of people in public without their consent in the US, it is generally frowned upon.
That being said, people who vote the way this guy does take pictures of queer people just existing and share them around online to doxx them, so turnabout is fair play. Fuck these pricks, they deserve every bit of awfulness coming to them.
In a lot of places in the EU, I think it's legal to take pictures. What you can do with said picture, differs quite a bit. Uploading it, like this, would be very much illegal. Which begs the question: is it legal in the US to upload such images, without consent?
Yep, freedom of speech and freedom of press. You have no expectation of privacy in public, I have the right to take pictures of whatever I want in public (including of you).
I own the right to every photo I take, so I can publish whatever I want.
There are a few exceptions.
I use your likeness commercially without your permission, you can sue me for royalties and to force me to stop using your likeness, since you didn't have a contract with me to be used to promote. The more famous you are, the more you can sue for, because your likeness is worth more.
If I use your name or likeness to spread rumors or misinformation about you, or to attempt to cast you in a bad light, you can sue me for libel or slander, since I did reputational damage to you, you can exact monetary damage from me. The more famous you are, the harder it is to sue without proving obvious malice, because being famous comes with the expectation of being talked about publicly in weird ways.
For example, if I accuse my next door neighbor of being a child rapist by plastering fake wanted posters around the neighborhood, he could sue the shit out of me for slander, and I would have to prove that I had evidence to say such a thing. If I did the same thing to Trump, however, he would have to prove I was lying to get anywhere, which is why you never see him sue over that kind of thing.
This guy bought the gold trump sneakers. He's clearly an easy mark. Some slick car salesman saw this guy coming from a mile away and talked him into a brand new 2024 RAM pickup on a 10 year note at 23% interest. The truck is in the parking lot right now festooned with now faded "Lets Go Brandon" flags he purchased at a gas station.
Donald Trump’s sneakers: Everything we know about the $399 ‘never surrender’ gold high-tops
The “Never Surrender” high tops have a hefty price tag of $399, but the shoes have already sparked fierce bidding wars online due to their exclusivity.
A quick eBay search on Sunday showed a pair of the shoes going for just short of $5,000. One Maga supporter claimed to have paid $9,000 bidding on an autographed pair.
The hat will likely be around $80 if he got it off Etsy instead of from a street vendor. Less than $60 total for the shirt and shorts unless he's been entirely ripped off or those shorts are much nicer than they look. So probably about $540 would be my guess before the tattoo sleeve. That cost anywhere from $600 if he got it done in his friend's garage and got an infection to several thousand bucks if he went to a really expensive artist. I have no guess for that.