But hey...no immigrants. Dumb as hell.
Real putin Energy that one.
I would say Soloviev energy
& they wonder why we call them fascists.
This is why.
"the peace president" they said...No war they said.
"We will be welcomed as liberators."
GW Bush Admin
Putin and other tankies showed the way so why not.
Putin is not a tankie; the dude is a literal billionaire who participated in gutting the USSR. How well did the haute bourgeosie fare under Lenin or Mao?
Settler state wants more land to settle
Meanwhile, in reality, they are terrified of letting Puerto Rico become a state because it might threaten their delicate gerrymandered hegemony in Congress by adding two more senators and one or more representatives. This "map" is the fever dream of a lead-poisoned, terminally MAGA moron.
All this talk of expanding the USA from everyone is.... concerning.
Also this map includes Iceland, northern Sicily and the Faroe Islands. What?
How come they want a little chunk of Mexico and all of Nicaragua, but they don't the rest of Mexico?
They need somewhere to deport people to obviously/s
I'm surprised they didn't just stretch the northern states to consume Canada. Perhaps they are afraid of giga Michigan and it's immense power.
BC is gone 🥺 As are NWT and Nunavut.
No idea what CL/CD (in BC) and MK (NWT) and KW (Nunavut) are supposed to refer to.
Totally not fascist.
I love how even unconsciously they can't take Mexico. I know it's most probably racism, but we still prevail prior to come back.
I know it's a joke, but Mexico has been a US colony since the NAFTA was established.
Not joking. The USA can take Mexico anytime, but they hardly could keep it. Also, the USA does not rule in Mexico, at least not openly. If you take that USA meddling in other countries affairs is enough to call it a colony, well, then everyone in the world is a colony of the USA. NAFTA was a trade agreement, but it was contingent to whatever is agreed between governments, not whatever the US government says. The renegotiation of NAFTA, the USMCA, is proof of this. If the USA government thinks countries in the world do not have options to trade, it's their mistake. At this point they can be replaced, but that doesn't help anybody in North America.
Canada, Panama and Greenland (Denmark) should not worry. Every single fucking loser MAGAt will have a copy of Cadet Bone Spur's 1968 doctors note excusing them from military service.
This is how it begins. You keep calling territory that isn't yours your territory until it sounds normal to those that you have created a cult or pact with. Then it doesn't seem so abnormal when you decide it is yours.
People who voted Trump in are actually fucking stupid.
The tyranny of countries more free than US. Only one thing to do. Yes, that is destroy them not copy them. Why would you want to adopt a better system when you can destroy theirs and claim yours was the best all along.
People who voted Trump in are actually fucking stupid.
I keep seeing liberals roll this one out, despite spending the last six months shamelessly pandering to conservative voters. Can't imagine why a Democrat would lose an election with this strategy. "You're an idiot! You're an idiot! You're an idiot! Oh, um, vote for me, I actually love strong border policies and Israel is the Best and transgender athletes are a big problem, tee-hee! Fuck, fuck, fuck, you're an idiot, you're an idiot!"
Love how true this is yet is currently at -19.
Liberals can’t cope with their election loss, in which their parties strategy was to court people who would never vote for them in the first place instead of their base who they actually secretly hate and just pander to for votes yet will never do anything for because it counters their donors wishes.
Seeing as they mention America's 250th birthday I am going to mention that the average lifespan of an empire is 250 years.
IS THAT SICILY!? Please maga cunts do try to go there. Sicilian people are ready to luigid you out this world, do you remember that pussy baby mike lynch?
Legitimately what is wrong with these people?
They want a fascist leader and to invade their neighbours?
They know how that historically ends right?
Like the "you won't let me say a slur so I'm gonna be a nazi" thing was kinda supposed to be an overly reductive meme, but this guy's just out there living it.
They know how that historically ends right?
lmao, no
Difference this time is it's overwhelmingly the most powerful military in the world as the aggressor, with nukes :/
May the gods have mercy on us, and prevent these fuckers from trying this.
An interesting thing about this map, the way these lines are drawn would all but guarantee conservative victories for a long, long time.
A bunch of extra, barely inhabited states, to give two extra electoral votes and a handful of senators to conservatives. I wonder if whoever drew this is aware that most Canadian conservatives are closer to American Democrats than American conservatives.
outside of the far right / populist MAGA copycats in the People's Party of Canada, and a certain strain of Albertan Separatist types. Most Canadian Conservatives are leftists compared to the US parties.
even Pierre Pollievre who canadians are labeling as a Trump puppet, is openly supportive of many policies the GOP would crucify people for, like abortion, gay marriage, etc.
Good eye. Ontario is left as is so I guess they want another California in terms of population to seat ratio.
They know how that historically ends right?
They don't know anything about anything. That's the problem
Lol... For them it never ended... Just a minor setback with 60 years of regrouping
They know how that historically ends right?
To be fair In the US's case, when a fascist invaded a neighboring country they ended up robbing half of the Mexican territory. The better comparison would be taking what usually happens when the US invades any country, and then imagine that happening inside the US. You don't shit where you eat.
Well, I'll say that no one, No one will be able to defeat the US militarily,
so it will end when the country tears itself apart in a civil war. Not when the Chinese or Europeans are at the gates of DC.
Yall really dont understand what a trillion dollar budget really means.
Canada and mexico would be extremely easy, in the scheme of things, to annex.
Why wouldn't they just slowly snipe you to death whike you waste trillions after the initial conflagration?
Totally aside from the economic collapse initiated by internal and external strife over this.
My friend, this very likely starts a world war.
There's nothing easy about that.
I know that End Wokeness is just jack posobiec, but im curious where this map even came from. It reeks of the same energy as that "Decolonized Europe" Map that Russian imperialists post, where every euro country has been balkanized *except for the Slavic brothers Serbia and Russia, who have both grown considerably larger)
they've both got that Nazi Ick
Its a mixture of multiple things, some are historic american expansion ideas such as Cuba, Canada, Northern Mexico, and the Yucatan while others are colonies Philippines or historically occupied regions Iceland, Faroe islands, and Sicily. Also some states are split up for some fucking reason. I dont know what the fuck is going on with Nicaragua and why it only maps out the Dominican republic side of Hispaniola.
Edit: I just remembered that some Americans at one point tried conquering Nicaragua to recreate the Federal Republic of Central America. So that explains that.
My fish have ick. I'm doing what I can for them. Nazis get no ick treatment. Let the parasites fester in their skin for a thousand suns.
Mexican here. Those are the states unpleasant accents so I'm on board with this plan.
Wait. I thought they didn't want foreigners coming into the US, doesn't this defeat the purpose of keeping them out?
History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes.
There was a war in the 1800s that USA had with Mexico. We beat them so bad that they surrendered all of Mexico to us.
In the end it was decided not to accept the deal, as it would just create a new set of problems with needing to legalize the citizenry of ALL former Mexicans.
I wonder what the history books can tell us about what we did with the people that were here before us ...
Ohh... Ohh my....
How about we start by making Puerto Rico and DC states
To be fair, there are a lot of pieces of nowhere as extra states and likely Republican strongholds.
They don't want to do that, those would both add solidly democratic senators, and likely permanently cost them the Senate.
Not like Canada and Greenland, which are notoriously conservative and would vote for Republicans consistently. Ignore the comparatively liberal policies, those aren't related. Quebec and Greenland in particular are just chomping at the bit to jump on Republican mainstays like adopting English as the one true and official language of the US.
They don't want to do any of this. They want to propose ridiculous pipedreams that they cannot hope to accomplish, and wouldn't enjoy if they did, because it distracts from their lack of ideas or morals.
Every conversation about Canada and Greenland is one you're not having about sex crimes and class warfare.
That's big fucking talk from a country that couldn't hold-on to half a Vietnam.
I'm a big fan of Cascadia. This map is just imperialist madness.
Yo, why do they want the Caribbean? They already have P.R. and they treat it like an S.T.D. they're ignoring.
They want more people to treat like shit.
Earth isn't enough?
I kind of get the feeling Trinidad and Tobago might be open to the idea. /joke
Maga is just little kids in the body of grown men. Also all of those states would vote dem or even third party if this actually happened so republicans would cease to exist.
... rural mexicans? Are you sure about that?
Representing the "Free State of Jefferson" in Southern Oregon but failing to acknowledge "Greater Idaho" these weirdos don't even know what's really going on. As a PNW resident, I'm dissapointed.
these weirdos don’t even know what’s really going on
I just like Texas getting carved up into half a dozen different mini-states for some reason. Like, who actually wants this, other than some dipshit trying to count to 100? You'd have more luck carving up Colorado, Michigan, or Pennsylvania.
Idiocy aside, does anyone know what this map actually represents (because I'm guessing, with Italy and Iceland in there, it's probably not a map of military conquest)?
TIL that the Philippines was an American colony 1899-1946...but Iceland? Yeah, I'd like to know also.
Pretty sure its a shitpost map originally, probably originated from Cartographycirclejerk or something. Its a mix of a bunch of ideas that wouldve never happened together but do make sense under the principles of basically a Victoria 2 game.
So they are planning on invading an autonomous territory of the Kingdom of Denmark? A part of EU and UN.
And nobody seems to notice they propose taking Iceland and Faroe Islands too.
They seem to be planning on invading everyone. Canada's about to elect a far-right government of its own, and I don't trust the Conservative Party of Canada not to go along with it, because they've been trying to dismantle everything that made Canada a nicer place to live than the USA for decades.
They don't know how maps work, dude. They don't even know what Denmark is.
Trump wants to buy Greenland
The danish prime minister called the idea silly, because it is.
Trump got butt hurt, called her a nasty person and cancelled a meeting with her.
Lol why not the rest of Mexico and Haiti as well?
And Texas? To shreds you say?
At a glance, the map also gives part of Idaho to Oregon and creates Jefferson between Oregon and California. The plan seems to be to reduce the proportion of Democrats in existing blue states to tilt them red for the EC, and to break up large red states to maximize the number of Republican senators without hurting their standing in the House or EC.
I'm shamed it's not a full Greater Idaho.
Honestly wouldn't mind us breaking up some states or combining some states.
California for example, while liberal leaning from the outside, got some real counties that could use a FAFO separation.
We are containing them, quit your bitching. Trust me they are impotent.
Not Haiti? Hahaha
They have suffered a lot.
I wonder if this American expansionism is going to cause friction with Putin. There's o way in he'll he is going to support it.
If you were Putin would you trust Trump of all people to stay loyal to you after you've given him what he wants?
Why wouldn't he want a large vassal state that he could one day easily absorb?
Do you want to get the white house burnt down again?
We'll do it a second time if need be
Yes please
This was a map posted on a map subreddit a while ago, as a kind of alternative history/future. I can't remember the details but I remember seeing it.
Trump's voting base don't have the skill to make work like this, nor apparently the imagination. What this is indicative of is that a portion Trump's voting base is dreaming of war and conquest, and in lieu of recent comments by Trump, Trump too.
Don't question the map, I'm sure someone with some time can find the original poster but it would have been made for some fun.
Northern Sicily had me rolling, especially without Gibraltar.
I'd like to know what they plan to do with Iceland and Sicily. Two very oddball selections there. At least The Philippines was once a US territory.
It's not only economically silly because they would lose the entirety of Europe, but it's also an insult Canada.
Canada was there on DDay, 9/11 and countless other tragedies / disasters. I doubt this would be popular with americans in the military. Theyve been fighting alongside canadians for decades if not a century now.
As if fascists care about a little thing like that.
So was Mexico and it hasn't exactly stopped them from being wildly racist at them.
Don't underestimate what a few years of propaganda can do
France enters the war on the side of Quebec too...
Mhmm
We've always been at war with eastasia
Maybe try to govern one country without fucking it up again.
Idiot forgot Mexico was mentioned too
A tiny bit of Mexico on that map is blue...
Maybe they just want the resorts at Cancun and Cozumel?
I'm more curious about when they decided to claim Iceland.
Edit: I guess some of Northern Mexico is blue. From what my Mexican friends tell me, that's where their rednecks live, so I guess they'll be more welcomed?
Yucatan asked to be annexed by the US back in the day. That's probably why they added it.
Deranged fascists: We need to redraw the maps of the states to make it more even, Texas should be split up.
OK so how about California?
Deranged fascists: ....
How about new york?
Deranged fascists: ...
(The other 46 states)
What bout Wyoming?
Deranged fascists: yes split it, up we'll call it AB(raham?) And it'll have the population of a Chicago suburb.
There are probably a thousand comments to be made, but the one I'll say is, MAGA thinks Texas, The Lonestar State, is going to cede territory? We can't even agree on statehood for DC or Puerto Rico.
We need that land as a um..safety buffer. yeah. Its for our safety. We dont feel comfortable around Canadians and Mexicans. Or our fellow Americans for that matter, they will need to go elsewhere.
Fuck Haiti, amirite?
Oui.
-- France
So abolish the United States and replace it with a union of North American nations? I'd be cool with that.
Wait, no, not like that!
And splitting up Texas feels pretty good too!
Where's this from? (I'm probably out of the loop.)
Whoever it is, I at least appreciate that they didn't fuck up MIMAL or his pan of Kentucky-fried chicken.
It's The Golden Circle again https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_the_Golden_Circle?wprov=sfla1
Terrifying, thanks.
Locusts.
I seriously think they’re looking at the Mercator versions of these maps and are having serious size envy. Trump probably thinks Russia is massive (granted it’s twice the size of the US) and wants the US to be that big too. If he knew the size of Africa he’d probably be going after that instead.
Huh, so the US is Russia now?
Back in the US...SR.
Techincally US is still USA
The State of Jefferson garbage in northern California is laughable. None of those clowns understand that states need to produce something to be financially viable, lest they simply mooch off of the federal government.
That area of CA produces nothing of real value, but then again, most red states do just mooch off of the federal government...
I live smack dab in the middle of "The 'state' of Jefferson" area and it's amazing how laughably disjointed the SoJ morons are. Functionally all the SoJ bumper stickers and other merch amount to a red flag when dealing with people.
I think their economic plan is "sell water"? A lot of the push is driven by resentment about Southern California stealing "our" water (and only giving back millions of dollars of tax money for projects that would be unsustainable for a sparsely populated rural state)
states need to produce something to be financially viable
That's liberal propaganda, if we kept to that we wouldn't have great states like AB?(north Wyoming) on this map.
Is that the Philippines in the corner there?
Reminds me of Japan taking Hawaii in terms of how far of a stretch it is.
The Philippines was an American colony between the Spanish-American War and WWII, so it's not as ludicrous as (for example) the Greenland part.
It is.
At least now it'll be funny, since a Colonizer is taking the land of another Colonizer
What tribe are you?
Do you have to be amongst the oppressed to find humour in the irony?
Iceland? Seriously?
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out of our price range.
The thumbnail on the account says "I support the former things"
Surely this is satire, even for them that's too stupid a quote
Is there a reason they only want some of central america? And why only part of those islands? Might as well make it all solid as long as we're dreaming.
yeah given musks toadys comments you would think they would do right up to the canal.
Obviously a lot of dumb here, but I'm most curious about the dividing of some of the existing states.
Like, I assume LN is Lincoln? But I thought the Lincoln movement was something on the East Cost, along Tennessee or something?
Texas being divided up with AU (Austin?) Being the biggest chunk is interesting. Not sure what's up with the chopping up on Oklahoma and Sequoia (?) though.
What's with that AB business in Wyoming?
Also interesting that California would encompass all of the Baja Peninsula. I would have figured that would have broken off as its own state (BJ for Baja probably would have been too awkward for the conservative that drafted this, but maybe BC for Baja California?)
I'd love to hear more about these if anyone can point me to references.
They're also breaking up the provinces weirdly too. What the heck is AE or AT? Northern Alberta has like none people, so making the province into two "states" is just dumb as heck.
Do these fuckwads not realize how supremely unpopular with even the general American public invading Canada and Mexico would be? Let alone the rest of the world?
It's unpopular now, so they'll float the idea of it being a joke or just rambling of a certain "leader". That way they can gauge how many are actually accepting of the idea, and slowly tune the narrative while propagandizing it to make the message more acceptable.
And there's the sure narratives. Canada and Mexico are cheating the US. Trade is not balanced. Etc Throw in some tariffs and blame Canada/Mexico/etc even more for the increased prices. Shift the public opinion while cutting back education and growing the narrative that America is the victim. Then when resources also get more scarce, suddenly a little "liberation" becomes an acceptable solution...
They realize it. And in their opinion, all those people are wrong.
Also, remember how unpopular the second war in Iraq was. Now remember the broad popular support it had after a year. Propaganda is a hell of a drug when it's literally EVERYWHERE, ALL THE TIME.
Glad they didn't divide ontario between the crazy side and southern ontario
That's just so they don't ever have to think about Northern Ontario. As is tradition.
I wasn't aware American fascists wanted to share a country with Sinaloans. They keep saying the opposite in fact
Indeed. Think about it.
As a bo us, guess who benefits from normalizing this kind of rethoric...
They’re following their leader, putin
That's a funny way to spell "Hitler"
israel doing it’s colonialism via its puppet
funny how the hypocrites supporting the genocide by biden are now crying about every little thing from the more evil party
If the zios can do it, why not their daddy?
Daddy? Really? Not the reverse?
Blue MAGA prefers puppet governments installed by a CIA coup.
There are no blue MAGA. MAGA is a specific death cult around a charismatic Hitler figure who want to murder their neighbors, promote hate, and promote a white Isis like Christian state.
What the fuck is blue maga people who drive electric cars and support gay pride?
I'm really fascinated with the way they redrew West Virginia to annex parts of Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Kentucky but cede territory to Ohio and Maryland.
Weird.
I support taking their maple syrup resources
