Columbine kicked off an epidemic of school shootings because of the attention it got. Some people need a focus for their misery and I am not ashamed to say that I would rather see heartless corporate executives fear for their safety instead of school children gunned down as they hide in a closet. Just putting that out there.
I am glad to know I'm not alone in this line of thinking!
Hello lonely young men with something to prove, have you seen how much positive attention Luigi got
I've got very few long term prospects, very little empathy for the undeserving wealthy, and a whole lot of spare time.
Ladies, look out 😎
Well yeah, don't you remember game theory talking about how big his cock is?
Luigi got attention for being arrested, the police are the ones alleging that he was the one who shot the CEO.
I really hope Jo Miran is an alias.
Maybe of the Buckee's beaver?
In this regard, all the media attention might be a good thing. I haven't seen this much coverage since that runaway bride horse shit 15 years ago.
This is why you don't snitch. The powers that be don't care about you, have no intention to do right by you, and will actively look for ways to avoid you after they are done with you.
...and all that came of the whole affair was a bunch of bad reviews for a McDonald's, which were promptly deleted by the corporation controlling all data.
No, there was a lot more that came of this (unless you're specifically referencing the snitching part).
- It's made business execs afraid.
- It's shown the working class how to have solidarity.
- It's been a rallying cry for how much the people hare the current system.
- It's given us a martyr.
- It’s taught the would be school shooters that they’ll get lots of positive attention for redirecting their targets towards those deserving. They’ll get labeled a folk hero, they’ll have people trying to send them money for their legal defense fund, they’ll get their name in the history books. They’ll get everything they ever wanted out of their act of violence.
And I'm sure there's more.
It’s taught the would be school shooters that they’ll get lots of positive attention for redirecting their targets towards those deserving. They’ll get labeled a folk hero, they’ll have people trying to send them money for their legal defense fund, they’ll get their name in the history books. They’ll get everything they ever wanted out of their act of violence.
I never even thought of that. No more Columbines? Just more Luigis?
Based universe!
It might even unify some voters across party lines
I think that user above you was implying more should be done about the McDonalds, which is pretty ironic given the context.
I guess Advent Health dropped their proposed anesthesia policy out of the goodness of their heart?
For now. However I'm sure they have plans in the works for all sorts of similar heinous and hateful policy changes.
The parasites are scrapping their data online because they know plebs don't know how to check SEC filings on https://www.sec.gov/search-filings
That could maybe contain names of the people running these death machines.
Coincidentally, unrelated, happenstance fact - you can gain the ability to attend shareholder meetings by purchasing a certain amount of shares - each company sets their own level.
Y’know, exactly like the meeting Brian was on his way to that December morning.…
I've already heard a bunch of stories of insurance companies approving procedures they denied the day before.
This probably saved a bunch of lives.
This thing about them not getting the promised reward needs to go viral so in the future whenever someone's thinking of turning someone in to get the reward money, they'll know they're highly unlikely to get a damn thing.
The average citizen doesn't know, care, or even understand. Nor do they want to.
That's why everyone who cares needs to spread the word.
People don't need to care. They might share it as a fun factoid, they might just say that's crazy and never think about it again
Until they're in a position to get a reward... They'll care then. That little idea they heard in passing will pop up... Maybe it gives them pause.
$10k is pretty tempting for a lot of people...a chance at a $10k reward they've heard rarely is paid out is a lot less tempting
Maybe they Google it first, maybe they think twice about if the crime is worth reporting. Maybe they see the world in black and white and believe it to be their duty
It's worth spreading some information, even to people that don't care
The average can shift marginally over time and this is a good start.
It's also (probably) not true.
"McDonald’s employee who called 911 in CEO’s shooting is eligible for a reward, but it will take time"
At this point, we don't know if it's true or how true. The odds of them getting the whole $60k is very low, but they might eventually get something out of it, depending on if/when he's convicted, how much of it they decide to award, and how many other tipsters it would be split with. And then of course, after taxes are deducted!
Since the issue has gotten some publicity and people may be checking up on it, they're probably more likely to give them at least something in this case. But whatever the truth is doesn't matter much these days -- the article stating they might not get it is out there, got attention, and I'm saying it should get more attention. People shouldn't be fooled when they hear a number and believe they will actually just be handed all that money when they call in their tip.
I didn’t hear about this. Is there an article you can link or something?
This one was posted further up. The tl;dr is that because they didn't call the NYPD tip line, they definitely* won't get the $10,000 from them, barring major backlash that may make them walk that back.
The $50,000 from the FBI is up in the air, but is dependent on him getting convicted. There's some wording that someone else pointed to about the tip needing to lead to an arrest AND conviction, saying that because the tip itself only lead to the arrest, they won't be paid, but I'm uncertain about that.
I mentioned in another comment that if the 1% want us to keep snitching, these high profile situations kinda need to pay out.
Its pure conjecture, there is no one saying they wont be paid, just some "journalists" saying maybe he wont be paid.
Maybe this might be one of those cases where fuck the truth of the matter, we should just spread this conjecture as truth. Snitches should imagine stitches not riches.
It's gone viral on several meme pages I follow on Facebook...
Also if this employee doesn't get rewarded for the tip-off that led to Luigi's arrest, what kind of message is that going to send to the public about law enforcement? It's just going to reinforce the already-growing ACAB narrative and make people distrust the police even further....
Heck, the very real possibility of being publicly outed, shamed, harassed and threatened for being the one to rat on Luigi, and not getting the promised $60,000 reward could end up radicalising more people.
Wait for the next step: the franchise fires the employee because of several 1 star reviews and death threats
I'm pretty sure it's already corporate policy to not question people abour fake bills or do anything to stop shoplifters (because insured and liability). Wouldn't be surprised if a new corporate policy crops up if something like that does happen
Can confirm.. store manager.
I joke that our policy for shoplifters is to offer them a bag.
In reality it's to offer them a cart as a non accusatory way of saying "I see you"
As for bills I had my boss suggest I take them to the bank. I had to clarify "and I tell them I believe there is a counterfeit in there... Right ... Otherwise it's dangerously close to trying to pass a counterfeit myself... A felony...."
He paused and answered "sure if that makes you more comfortable"
To be clear I understand and agree with a lot of it. Why should I ask my workers to risk their life over some toothpaste? Why should I ask them to risk their life confronting a counterfeiter who is already done commiting felonies.
I also understand it doesn't help the company. One dead worker will cost the company more than all the product a person could steal. Even with insurance the cost of training even a cashier is nearly $1000. It goes up from there.
It is still frustrating and my employees often take a lot of training to convince them not to care if someone is stealing.
And customers also get frustrated when they tell me someone is stealing and I give them an answer like "that's unfortunate " and go back to work.
I've never worked at McDonald's but I know for a fact that pizza hut had a policy of not pursuing thieves, we were explicitly told not to do it.
At one point somebody did walk out without paying and the manager yelled at everyone, because literally none of us noticed. But he couldn't really do anything to us about it because corporate policy was that we weren't supposed to do anything, even though obviously he wanted us to have done something.
Hope so...
The owner class and their government muppets are flexing right now as if they want to inflame tensions.
Or are they not reading the room?
They have learned over decades that they can do whatever the fuck they please. They don't need to read the room, nothing is gonna happen to them anyway. Also, the public just voted their mascot into the White House for 4 years despite 34 convictions, so they are truly invincible and they know.
Over decades, more like since before the constitution was written. Shays' rebellion and probably years before that.
they are truly invincible and they know
Tell that to the dead one.
They're engaging in displays of power. They think that works because it does until it doesn't
I, uh... I don't think they can read.
Did they seriously not give the snitch the bounty? Can anyone provide official news story on this?
Iirc they never actually pay the reward in almost every reward poster for one reason or another.
Conviction is required, and the informant needs formal recognition by the FBI as a recognized informant first. Karen just called 911, forfeiting the reward.
Lol of course there's stupid hoops like that.
So anybody who is out and about and sees a fugitive with a publicized reward should know...don't call 911. Call John Walsh, or pound sand.
Probably gotta call a specific extension that's only staffed from 10am to 2:30pm with a 2 hour lunch from 11:15 to 1:15 on the first and third weeks of the month and 12:15 to 2:15 on the other weeks.
There usually needs to be a conviction before there's a reward.
That's hillarious. If this were a movie I'd call it bad writing. Heck almost any editor in the world would have it changed to a scene where the snitch is suddenly blinged the fuck out.
almost any editor in the world would have it changed to a scene where the snitch is suddenly blinged the fuck out.
Because it would make for a more interesting story, even though that's now how it works (fortunately).
Snitching on your neighbor because he kinda looks like the guy should not be rewarded. Unless he's convicted, he's innocent. Only if proven guilty you can say the snitch helped and give them their reward. If the person is innocent then the snitch did nothing more than just waste everyone's time.
Anyone have a citation about the rat not getting the money? People keep saying that, but I haven't seen a single article posted about it.
both the arrest and conviction of the suspect
Makes perfect sense, but that's just a matter of time.
might not be eligible for [the NYPD] part of the reward.
OK, so maybe they won't be getting 10k of the 60k. They would still get 50k if he's convicted. So many people are definitively saying that they're getting none of the money, and that makes no sense.
And people say that McDonald's never produced anything delicious.
"McDonald’s employee who called 911 in CEO’s shooting is eligible for a reward, but it will take time"
Yeah its good to be skeptical of something like this that everyone wants to be true.
There isn't actually any citation for this, there is however a bunch of articles written pointing to the red tape around reward money and saying "maybe" he wont be paid. But so far I havnt seen anything that shows this as more than conjecture
Also this snitch not being paid would be the dumbest fucking move imaginable if their goal is to have murdering Capitalists not be the new trend.
is there news source for "fuck right off about that reward, bud"?
It's an easy find. Nobody is literally saying fuck right off, but it's not a stretch to think this shithole society would screw the person over.
NYPD Crime Stoppers Rules: The NYPD part of the reward is given out through Crime Stoppers. To claim this part, people must have a unique reference number provided when they submit a tip through Crime Stoppers. Unfortunately, because the employee called 911 instead of using the Crime Stoppers hotline, they might not be eligible for this part of the reward.
What a fucking joke. Hope everyone learns the lesson here.
I highly doubt that with the current climate and visibility of this they don't pay the class traitor.
Let this be a lesson to any other proles who think Big Brother is somehow on your side. They are not.
They will do and say anything they can to ensure they get what they want, and the rest of us lose. The system is not broken; it’s working as it was designed.
Next time keep your head down and your mouth shut.
The cops frequently bald faced lie to people to get them to self-incriminate, or rat people out.
Remember: if you see something, say nothing.
Remember MKULTRA, PRISIM, i could go on....
Just what exactly you think psychiatry is? It's mostly a bunch of fuckwads whining about bullshit and given dope while being observed for their changes. MKULTRA was basically doing the same without consent...or even knowledge but let's be real. Psychiatry is pretty much the same if you are loud enough about fucking anything.
Oh shi...
Wait where is is that the compensation will not be provided? This was the first time I heard this
He didn't tip off the right agency. AND the reward depends on a conviction, not an arrest. AND he gets a proportion of the reward depending on how instrumental his info was in the case being solved.
(AND the poor are just tools to those in power.)Edit: or so I gathered.
It wasn’t even a lot of money. It was practically a pittance, loose change in the sofa to these people.
At least one possibly decent article detailing why they might not.
Might? It was never a question, they're not paying him.
Is it just me that doesn't believe the McDonald's employee thing? I think they used a Pegasus or Stingray type privacy violating device/exploit and just said it was a restaurant employee.
Or they pretended to be a customer and said to the employee, "Gee, that guy really looks a lot like the killer, doesn't he, ha ha wouldn't that be funny, anyway give me a big mac and fries. He does look like him though."
Nancy the wage slave called him in but the fat boomer they ran articles with is the fed?
100% the whole story is too convenien lul.
Pegasus is a scalpel. Needs to be applied and targeted. Stingray is old news and common. It is a catch all.
Was this used? Given how much money could have been thrown at it, very likely.
*Supposed killer
He's only a suspect at the moment
Too many people forget this part. Luigi Mangione is, until proven otherwise, innocent. The police, the same people who have spent decades killing them people (especially minorities) and planting evidence, largely with impunity, are alleging that he is the one who did it. Luigi is likely a victim of the health insurance industry but, until it is proven otherwise, he and the shooter are two separate individuals.
People with a lot of wealth and power want to put a bow on this to prevent more frustration from being directed at them.
allegedly
Allegedly a suspect?
We all know that snitches get stitches, always. What you may not know (and Snitching Joe just found out) is that the stitches are sometimes metaphorical.
It's not guaranteed they won't pay the peon. There's just a process.
It seems like a weird process because everything in the legal world is framed in terms of adversaries, people trying to game the system, official processes that have to be followed, and delays. And for all I know, it will lead to whoever ratted him out getting the shaft. But there's a big difference between "It's more complicated than bebopping on down to your FBI office and getting handed a check" and "They're definitely going to shaft him."
Do a favor for the cops, they give you nothing and often end up revealing who you are, sometimes by accident.
Do a favor for the mafia and they do one for you
Police: Here's 10, thousand dollars! Thanks for the tip!
The fed: oh I see you made some extra money, Here's your entire one thousand dollars after tax!
How much money does a McDonald's employee in the US make to be in the 90% tax bracket? I'm jealous.
Sales tax: yes that'll be 11% thanks!
terms and conditions may apply
The reporting on how he came to be arrested is quite a bit different from what's all over social media. From what I've read, it wasn't until the cops showed up that anyone even knew who it was. It seems like he was acting strange after several days on the run and nights without much sleep. A concerned customer asked an employee to call the cops.
I don't know how accurate this story is, but I have no idea where the social media narrative came from, except that it was half written before he was ever captured. I think the anger at McDonalds and the employee involved is misplaced, and I hope it doesn't have serious consequences.
Where did you see that they denied the reward payout? I haven't read anything about that yet.
I hadn't heard that either, but Google turns up a few articles like this. TL;DR, the reward money may be contingent upon a conviction - which could take time or even be subverted if the suspect is acquitted.
Bertolt Brecht could probably come close
This whole thing has Threepenny Opera written all over it.
Literally Final Fantasy VII
EDIT: Literally Final Fantasy XVI
Luigi wasn't lower class, tho? You could try to argue his family was middle class but even that's a stretch, his grandfather donated a million dollars on a single event and Luigi attended both a Private High School where he was Valedictorian and he had a Masters Degree from Ivy League University of Pennsylvania.
You can be rich and still fight against an oligarchy. That's why it's class warfare. His actions line up with the poor fighting back against the rich using the same tools they use: murder.
There's no higher, middle or lower class. Those are all lies from the owning class to divide the working class and it seems like they're working on you.
His family owns a lot of real estate.
Worker class is the true unifier. You can be lower, mid, and upper worker class.
If you have to work to live, you're working class. If your employer controls a significant portion of your life and time, you're working class.
He's a class traitor, to our side. So a working class hero, as in a hero to the working class.
Hmm
Neither were most revolutionaries. This is a pattern that has long historical support.
Sure hope this doesn't follow any patterns, based on past outcomes.
Well, except the guy came from a well-off family and had a good higher education. Not really a “lower-class” type, but certainly someone who could be rallied behind.
Thinks like that pizza guy movie with the neck bomb. Real life more absurd than art.
If they were Romans, they'd pile their shields on them
The sad thing is the rat will get their money if Mangione is convicted (and he most probably will even if he's just a scapegoat). Even if the responsible office will block the reward, some CEO will jump in and hand him way more than the 60k. Maybe they'll fabricate it into a heatwarming christmas story with some sad background stories of the rat and how they're now able to pay off the mortgage of their parents home or something.
I do not know of any generous rich people.
Santa
Oh, you probably meant non-fictional. Nvmd.
There are actually more details involving where the rewards come from and the existence of an evaluation process, i.e. you don't just make a phone call and somebody hands you a pile of cash. That's how rewards have always worked. But anything beyond a meme-level thought process is super boring, right? Gotta make an instant value judgement, congratulate yourself for uncovering injustice, and scroll on to the next item in the feed.
And somehow we still expect elections to produce meaningful results.
