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Why not serve fried chicken on Juneteenth? How is it different from serving corned beef on St. Patrick’s day?
  • I think that is especially true in the United States where sharing cultures is so central to the nation's identity. I think it really comes down to intent. As long as you aren't doing something in a mocking or condescending way, I don't think any reasonable person would be offended.

    I know this is a little different due to the power dynamic (America being a powerful country) but people around the world love wearing random American stuff like baseball jerseys or whatever. Saw a lot of it in Europe. Probably theres no profound reason behind it, they just like the style. I think it's cool, I'm not mad that they don't really know who the Texas Rangers are or whatever.

  • Immigration fears are pushing centrists to the right in the US and Europe
  • That's kind of a weird take. Centrists have not always done that (otherwise society would get steadily more conservative century after century) so you can't just wave it away as meaningless. Instead I think liberals need to look at what is driving away centrists. (it's immigration)

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  • Interesting read. But even if the article is correct, all that means is that there was a clerical error over a hundred years ago. The Supreme Court ruled on the law as it has been documented ever since. They didn't make anything up.

  • ACAB.
  • https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-policing-minneapolis/

    This is a really good and even-handed breakdown of what happened in Minneapolis after the George Floyd killing. Leftists can be as high minded as they like on the internet but when the police officers cut back on their patrols/traffic stops the overall reaction from the high crime communities that no longer had a strong police presence was not very positive. I think it is naive to think that you can gut police forces and crime won't go up.

    To be clear I am all for police REFORM and increased accountability but I don't think less police is inherently better.

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  • So you're saying that qualified immunity makes it easier to get away with things. I 100% agree.

    But there are still absolutely doctors and teachers (just sticking with my original examples but this applies to every profession) who get away with terrible things for years and years, often with a blind eye from their coworkers. Morally I just don't see any difference. The actions done by these doctors and teachers are just as destructive to society, and so are the consequences of their coworkers not coming forward.

    And you can't blame police in general for qualified immunity. That's just a legal concept derived from the US constitution. Yeah, corrupt officers and corrupt departments will absolutely exploit them as much as they can but I don't see what it has to do with ACAB.

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  • ....yeah the blue wall is pretty effed I'm not here to defend it. Although I did read there are signs it might be starting to "crack", like the George Floyd trial.

    I just... I get frustrated when people say things with zero nuance like ACAB. Even if you hate cops in general there are at least a few good ones. Plenty of officers give their lives to try to save innocent people, and although they aren't common there are absolutely officers who testify against each other and report each other.

  • I mean it.
  • Qualified immunity makes it harder to arrest cops, but what does that have to do with whether or not a police officer chooses to try? Qualified immunity is just a legal concept, it's not like police departments made it up to protect themselves, that's not how laws work. Anyways, as I said before the difficulty in getting cops arrested actually makes police officers who don't report their colleagues more understandable (the case might not go anywhere so don't even try).

    Thats fine if you don't want to reply, I'm not really trying to argue with you individually I more just want to present my view along side yours for everyone who reads the thread.

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  • Thanks for your analysis, king. Do you think perhaps any of the 800,000 police officers in the united states might have joined for humanitarian reasons, i.e. to protect their community and stop criminals? Maybe just a couple?

    Also morally I maintain that their is no difference between a doctor or engineer not turning in a coworker and a police officer doing the same. Teachers and doctors can't arrest each other but they can absolutely get each other arrested. The rest is just semantics.

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  • Is their case unique in this context though? I guess your argument is that only a cop can bring down another cop, which is different than, say, a doctor?

    But I don't understand how that refutes my point. The statement of the original "cafeteria room" post was that in every police workforce, everyone knows who the bad guys are, and silence=violence, and therefore ACAB. Well first off, i don't necessarily think that it's true that everyone knows- police officers do more work out on their own than most professions and I certainly couldn't tell you who all the bad apples are at my company where everyone works in the office all day.

    But that's fine, we can make that assumption, but if we do it would surely apply to other professions as well. If everyone at the hospital knows who the bad apple pharmacists, doctors, nurses and technicians are, and people's lives are being ruined (and sometimes ended) by this corruption, doesn't that implicate everyone at the hospital? What is the moral difference between a cop not standing up to a corrupt coworker and a doctor not standing up to a corrupt coworker? If anything, police officers having a monopoly on violence makes it MORE understandable that a police officer might keep their head down- they have to worry about their physical safety and not just their career.

    And if your argument is that, due to their nature of their job, police officers have an obligation to confront their coworkers that doesn't apply to other professions, that doesn't make sense to me. Morally, it's the exact same regardless of your job description.

  • A cool guide to the top 10 global economies over time (1960 to 2024).
  • Well once they start living here I would say their perception is more valid than pretty much anyone else's. I get that it's a subset of people who are predisposed to like the U.S. but considering how overwhelmingly positive that feedback is, plus the sheer number of immigrants who want to come to the US, that means something.

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  • Couldn't you say that about every profession?

    Are all doctors bastards because some abuse their power to exploit their patients with unnecesary charges/procedures?

    Are all teachers bastards because some sexually abuse their students?

    Are all members of the military bastards because some commit war crimes?

    I mean, you pick a profession and I can point to bad apples within it. If your conclusion is everyone is a bastard I don't find that to be very meaningful.

  • A cool guide to the top 10 global economies over time (1960 to 2024).
  • I mean.... higher numbers are better yeah, all things equal. America has some serious problems but there's a reason so many people want to come to the United States. The most patriotic people in America are immigrants which says a lot.

  • That’ll be Why the Median is Barely Over 40
  • Nah it's not even CLOSE to true though, that's what I'm trying to say haha. The influence of the top 1000 on average income is off by at least an order of magnitude, probably more. I don't like it when people double down on false information by saying "well it still makes a good point/it might as well be true/I would totally believe it if it actually happened"