i'm not a woman but something tells me that they wouldn't want to be with a person who even remotely considers the idea of owning a robotic sex-slave.
... Can it do domestic labor or just sex? I am a woman and frankly I'd be interested in a robot wife.. I've got my husband for sex but we're tired of cooking dinner and cleaning the house. We'd both like a wife.
I would love even a dumbed down wonderbot from that movie robots. Even something just to load the dishwasher would be amazing.
But we have to prioritize here, if it can't fuck there's no point, throw it in the trash.
I feel like I need this /s although I wish it was obvious.
I've seen this in Detroit: Become Human.
Sign me up for a house-bot. I'm so tired by the time I get home from work that I'd love a robot to do all the chores for me.
Most of those men were never that desirable on a personality level anyway.
They think of women in transactional terms, where they only do what's necessary to get laid.
I think, especially the incel types almost live in an RPG. Women are just NPCs, you do some quests for them, fetch her father's sword from the orc cave, hit the right speech options and if you gathered enough reputation, you get the ethereal pussy of power that gives +5 on mana.
Switching directly to robots does make sense in that world.
the thing i just cannot wrap my head around with these people is what the hell they're after, they claim they don't like women and yet they're clearly thirsting after them.
best i can guess is that they're just profoundly mentally unhealthy and unable to realize that if they want a partner they should just.. be desirable, which easy to get started with by learning how to cook and being nice to people.
I mean, they would most likely also make a male version.
And then we can all join in on the fun with both. Might even be able to do the more advanced Kama Sutra stances that are normally reserved for orgies.
You can bet it will be someones kink.
This makes me think of those whole torso dildos.
If anyone reads this and owns one, please explain.
I really don't understand the dot connection from sexbots existing to women becoming secound class citizens or whatever they think will happen. It's as if they think women only exist for sex and marriage and won't have a purpose without it. And that's not even to go into their assumption that every single person will decide that having a human connection is pointless and can be replaced by a non sentient(god I hope so) sexbot.
I feel like it would free a lot of women to focus on their careers and stuff as opposed to being conditioned to find a husband.
I really don’t understand the dot connection from sexbots existing to women becoming secound class citizens
It's the same thinking that leads to "AI will replace programmers/artists/writers" but with extra misogyny. People in power don't actually believe this garbage, it's all a marketing gimmick to appeal to losers and incels. Nevertheless, this kind of rhetoric does real societal harm. Same as with musks hyperloop -- hype up a fake idea and grab the cash.
The scary thing is I think some of them (like Muskrat) do believe it… even though they have no idea how AI even works or how to build a robot like in the pic. They just come up with the idea and then hand off all the actual planning to others, and then strut around like roosters in a barnyard feeling oh-so-smart.
And these rich idiots want this stuff in order to keep all the money for themselves instead of paying an actual human for art/programming/writing (in the case of AI) or so they don’t have to deal with a real human being with their own needs and wants (in the case of a robot ‘wife’). They just don’t want other ‘inferior’ people around them, period.
Which just goes to show what they think of marriage, I suppose.
(Assuming such technology could be viable and not, you know, horrifying like it sounds it would be...)
[Headlines ten years after the invention of the robot "wife"]
WHY ARE GENERATION ALPHA WOMEN KILLING TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE?!
and
GEN ALPHA WOMEN SAY THEY ARE HAPPILY SINGLE: WHAT IS WRONG WITH THEM??!
and
DEATHS FROM LONELINESS AMONG GEN ALPHA MEN ARE WAY UP: WHAT'S GOING ON?!
So you're suggesting that people - especially those in power - seem to think that women are equals who have individual identities and worth?
I'm not a woman, so I'm probably not qualified to comment; and I'm not intending to attack you personally, only address what you say here; but it does seem like in many cases women get a bum rap.
What is a dot connection?
Is this how we remove these "alphas" from the gene pool? Hmmm... carry on.
And nothing of value was lost.
Awesome. As a woman, I cannot wait for the day men will be so occupied with a robot waifu, that we can finally walk safely at night.
Well most men don't assault women. It's always a small percentile. And since assault is often about power, not sex, I doubt that would solve anything.
It has always been dominance seeking behaviour. Testosterone's prime choice. Nothing new there.
You only have one life. It only takes one asshole to maim you for the rest of your life. Can't afford to lose your life.
Women are already safer 'walking at night' than men are, by a wide margin. And even for men it's quite rare overall.
You've been duped by fear-mongering propaganda.
Also, the fact is that any pair of people is statistically WAY less likely to be attacked in that way, than any individual. This should be the primary 'tip' at the top of the list when it comes to educating about being safe in that situation. Nothing reduces your risk more, regardless of your sex, than not being all by yourself. Nothing else comes even close.
P.S. Bonus tip, because I hate whenever I see this 'advice' making the rounds on social media or whatnot: doing some Wolverine-style shit with your keys is a stupid self-defense idea; it's ineffective and literally more likely to do damage to you than an attacker. Instead, in a pinch, it's much better to hold the largest key you have (likely car key) between thumb and index finger, and 'stab' with it like a dagger, hard as you can.
The idea that Musk would have a black robot girlfriend is the most unbelievable part of this.
That was probably just a mistake from the racist image generator secretly adding the word black to the prompt
One of the best happy little accidents llm have brought upon us.
Racism and objectification go hand in hand though, plenty of real world evidence of that, from Jefferson to Strom Thurmond.
Should of
As a non native English speaker, that is the grammar mistake that most baffles me in natives. Like, how does anybody think that “of” is the right word there, how does it make sense in their heads.
True 🦴🍎☕️ material, if it weren’t that absurdly common.
I think the mistake might come from a lack of reading. The contraction "should've" is often used in speech, which might be mistakenly written as "should of" if you don't read a lot and see it written properly all the time. We've mostly lost the voiced quality of "v" at the ends of words like that, so it's basically pronounced "should-uf" in American English.
I think it comes from people shortening it to should've which then got warped into should of
Automatically screams "uneducated" to me. Such an easy thing to not get wrong.
I feel like someone, somewhere, ate the onion.
At this point, I think the universe has eaten the onion.
lol this would be amazing news for straight women. it should be super cheap and accessible too. imagine the number of weirdos who will preliminate themselves from dating before you even know them. what a wonderful gift to the world. it's great for straight men too, if the women won't have to spelunk through so much garbage to find a normal dude.
It's subjective who's a normal dude and whether that intersects with weirdos who preliminate (interesting word) themselves from dating before you even know them.
I'm definitely in the latter group except for a few very rare events (all of which did not end very well, though for some of them others say I dodged a bullet, and for some of them I've reevaluated the events and myself think I dodged a bullet, though the person is good, but they too have problems unfixed yet which would make it a dumpster fire, and some of them ended such a nightmare that I suspect I should be glad we weren't deeper into things ... tldr I'm one of those weirdos)
But this really would be amazing news for everyone if we assume a good enough physical imitation is possible. Let them. Plastic grass, fabric flowers, rubber "stone" or "brick" walls, electric fireplaces, search engines instead of actually judging for yourself whom you'd want to ask and what you'd want to read, social media instead of a forum (the Roman one, though early 00s ones were good) or a homepage, fashion degenerating into all girls at night looking the same (outdoors), the "genial" and "non-mainstream" authors' names being known to every high schooler and all the same unlike Stanislaw Lem and Isaac Asimov and Chesterton and Simak and even Tolkien and Lewis, instead of ancap (like it or not, it's a very firm and characteristic ideology, that has influenced cyberpunk in both ways) optimism\pessimism only cryptoscams and Gab and alt-rights around, instead of new computer-powered amazing art - some plagiarism machines, instead of transhumanism - some very persuasive bots, it makes sense that at some point this should come to moving dolls instead of romantic partners, and if people don't choke on the rest in this list, they won't choke on that too.
We do have Harlowe's monkey studies that do indicate that even imitation is better than nothing.
My guess is that this plays along oxytocin receptors, which is also why things like weighted blankets do kind of work, social media does kinda work, etc. People can also take inhalable oxytocin.
There is no replacement for unconditional love (which means love that respects boundaries unconditionally as extensions of a person and their autonomy) and community though. But that doesn't mean women should endanger themselves so dangerous men who enjoy being controlling (like Musk) can have oxytocin. Because then that means women don't get unconditional love and respect for their boundaries and safety.
I am agreeable to these robots but I also have some reservations as a sex worker. First, there is a substantial male population who cannot hire sex workers because they have been blacklisted for various reasons. These men could benefit from a doll for sure. Second, similar to AI deepfake concerns - some of these men are basing dolls off real people, and some are pedophiles- what stops them from ordering a doll that looks just like the little girl next door? And what stops them from filming material harming and torturing these dolls and selling it online? Including material that could involve animals, feces, or other taboo/illegal/defamatory acts? That's likely currently legal depending on the doll's appearance (how young it appears) and local laws. Yes, it's just a doll, so that's better than the huge curremt online presence of monkey torture and real human torture. But don't you think that's also bad in some way too? On one hand, it's comparatively a good outlet. On the other hand, holy fuck
I'm right there with you. I'm mildly on the spectrum, though functional enough that no one would assume it unless they really got to know me, and while I am capable of having a moderate amount of success in the initial stages of dating, compatibility and styles of communication always end up being the primary issue, and that's not necessarily a failing on either party. The fact remains though that there does not seem to be many people out there that I am compatible with.
I am fortunate in that I am generally very content being alone and pursuing things that are of interest to me for very long periods of time (the only thing I really noticed during Covid lock downs was that my commute to work was faster, while my much more social partner at the time suffered a lot mental health wise). Despite that I am, unfortunately, still human and desire a certain amount of intimacy and connection with another person. I'm not sure if it will ever happen, but if you have seen the new Blade Runner movie, I could absolutely see myself with a "companion" like the holographic one the main character has in his apartment.
I'm looking forward to the anguished screeching when they find out that male sexbots will be a thing too.
Would be an interesting timeline if your hookup line is: "Hey, our sexbots should totally smash."
We're just a few pandemics away from that.
I refuse to believe this is a real post.
That's good, cause it's very clearly not a real post. Just someone who made some AI images for lulz.
"Robot files for first robot-human divorce from musk"
I love the logic here: if you won't fuck us, we'll fuck machines.
that'll show 'em. goddamn.
I mean, for the crowd of people we're referencing here, that's probably easier than them learning how to not be complete shitbag assholes to women.
not wrong... not wrong at all.
Machines: actually…
Detroit: Become Human
I am 100% behind this. If you want to fuck a robot because "western women" are "to blame" then you go right ahead. Take you and your robot back home and don't come out until you can play well with others.
Deal
I don't know why people are downvoting you. I applaud your honesty. Have you considered shutting yourself away with a sex doll while you wait for a robot sex slave? It would save us all much consternation.
He'll believe the robot wives when they pay him the compliments he programmed them to give.
No big surprise we have a anti feminism group here in Australia.
Probably full of the same dickheads causing all issues here in Australia (lots of them tend to be construction or truckies for whatever reason)
I don't think men want robot wives. Believe it or not most men actually like women and enjoy their company. A robot could never compare.
Current news articles:
- woman was recently raped for decades by dozens of men in France, organized by her husband.
- Woman, Olympian who just competed this summer, dies of burns from her male partner.
- Woman is murdered by boyfriend and then pureéd.
I wish those guys had had a doll. But no, nothing is quite as good as a living woman to control instead ig.
There are 2 distinct types of love. Unconditional love, and conditional love. These 2 types actually oppose each other.
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Unconditional love means "I love you, including your boundaries, and I will respect those boundaries as a show of love even if that means we cannot be together because it conflicts with my boundaries."
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Conditional love means, "You must prove you love me by sacrificing your boundaries and personhood. Your boundaries and autonomy show you do not love me and thus upset me. Being willing to separate to keep boundaries intact shows you can escape my control, which terrifies me." Narcissistic relationships feature conditional love quite strongly. They often require heavy enmeshment as part of this boundary trampling. This is also the same type of "love" or relationship dynamic that exists from a boss to an employee. Or a slaver to a slave. There's a reason these guys who love controlling women would actually benefit from a doll. But dolls aren't usually "good enough" because they don't have boundaries to violate even though they allow for ultimate control. This is also why conservative men REALLY REALLY like leftist women and not their fellow conservative women - more torture potential and boundary violation potential.
No but incels would love sexbot maids. Honestly it probably wouldn't be the worst thing for society.
Only western women though, they are the degenerate ones that deserve being made obsolete. Nice Slavs and Asian women are obedient and keen to home slavery, so they won’t be impacted by this competition. Thank god.
Elon Musk believes that population decline is a real problem. Well, there is enough African, Latino and Indian kids but those are not the children he wants.
It's weird that no one is even questioning where the robot husbandos are.
Especially since, like, women have been using machines to pleasure themselves for a while now and it's still kind of a novelty for most het cis men
It’s because of societal issues. Women’s sex toys are glamorized and “fun” to talk about, but men’s sex toys are characterized as gross and incel.
Don't you know? Cis het men are perfectly fine using couches for their pleasure
You know theyre out there.
Damn imagine being the richest man alive and all you can do to get a picture with women is “make” your own ai
Interesting, now that you say that... He's got 12 kids. I don't think I've ever seen a picture of him with any of the mothers.
There are plenty with Grimes. Also plenty of pictures of him and Grimes in court.
These are automated body pillows. FTFY.
But he can’t even get a self driving car right. Why would I believe that he can replicate women before that?
Help! My dick got stuck in my Titsla Cybercuck while it was updating, and I'm gonna be late for work!
Have an upboat for titsla cybercuck.
Dons boomer hat
Well we all know women can't drive either, am I right fellas?
Turns toward camera. Cue laugh track
These people are just interested in fuck toys, not actual people.
Even if we would assume I wanted a sex robot, I ain't using no sex robot that came from Elon Musk.
https://mashable.com/article/tesla-cybertruck-cut-finger-door-release-pillar-button
Misogynists and fascists like disgusting Elon aside, I do believe there is a serious problem on the horizon.
Just existing AI capabilities, "cyberdildonics" and virtual reality headsets. It doesn't have to be a full sized sex robot, simple hardware like the handy already exists.
Imagine combining that with a ChatGPT and video generating AI that is designed to create "engagement" similar to how social media does this - not just with sexual pleasure but also through generated stories creating a pseudo intimacy based on illusion.
It sounds pathetic but algorithms could relatively quickly generate the "ideal" forms of pornography and stimulation to maximize pleasure, including "aural" stimulation and sex stories. And that generated for the tastes and desires of each individual.
So there is at least the possibility of a kind of addiction or at least habit forming from a kind of "ultra porn". Long term this will lead to changes in dating and procreation and socialization, if sexual desires are being able to be fulfilled illusionary and in a fantasy world.
No matter how pathetic you think this is, it's going to be a real problem or at least disruption. Obviously it won't be a feminist "self own".
sexual desires are being able to be fulfilled illusionary and in a fantasy world.
Aren't we pretty much there already? Dating and being together is about so much more than sex, the loneliness epidemic has other causes.
A lot of it has to do with options. Not good or bad, but options.
You go into a store and want to buy milk, and instead of there being the local milk selections there is now 50,000 different choices. So we always seem to hold out for that more ideal option and never really select one.
This might be where modern dating is going. Fight Club talked about the single serving friend. Tinder style dating has turned us into single serving partner.
You're kinda describing a "doll house" from Cyberpunk 2077, except it's ai controlled humans that get their memories wiped performing the service instead of a vr headset
Eh, I think it will broadly be a good thing. Perhaps there will be addiction problems, but you can already basically see any kind of porn you want with minimal effort... This refinement will only have drastic effects on the most niche fetishists.
Plus, anyone who has tried prompting an image generator to do something that isn't a digital art image of a sexy elf in the forest knows it's a real pain to actually get models to do exactly what you want. As they get more sophisticated I don't see this changing. Porn video generation will be fraught with frustration and difficulty... Most likely generating good porn will be a whole job of its own.
Well we're both speculating, but I believe AI will advance to the point it can reliably animate a 3D animated "girlfriend" in a virtual environment and then learn how exactly how to maximize pleasure and create erotic stories. With more advance teledildonics being able to simulate different types of sex it could become better at that then the best "courtesan". Fantasy is often better than sex already, but what happens when you have visual, physical and erotic narrative woven together?
A man can only come that many times a day, but can already doom scroll all day...
Oh no, the shittiest men in the world will stop being a problem, the horror.
More evidence men should have been given dolls as kids... brought to you by the same men who would flip out if you suggested giving dolls to boys
I'm a woman who played with dolls growing up, but I don't understand what you mean. Why would that have helped?
I highly recommend Patricia Evans' books on Verbally Abusive Relationships, and Controlling People.
Basically, when kids get dolls, they understand that they are projecting their daily issues onto the dolls. They get to dress up the doll and put their worries on the doll and do all these things with the doll. When they do that with people, typically other younger kids, they are then taught that people aren't to be treated like dolls. People aren't an extension of our selves. Thus, women tend to be socialized to have better perspective taking skills, and if they need an outlet for this type of behavior, they can use dolls or the Sims etc as a healthy outlet.
Well, he's a eugenicist (and thinks he's got the best genes) so I'm guessing this is part of his plan to make certain populations stop breeding.
Most of everyone on Lemmy is into eugenics. Except they go the long way by claiming poor people shouldn't have kids
Ex-machina anyone?
Wasn't this one of the plot threads that the shut-away CEO who made the bots had for himself one with an Asian ethnicity (a reference to the racist stereotype that Asian women are the 'perfect' wife because they are weak and submissive 🫤) that didn't speak as a pseudo-housewife that ended up stabbing him in the finale?
This is what I thought of lmao
Both his SA bot and the main one being Turing-tested killed him in the end.
If there was ever a real-world tech billionare who was conceited/naively overconfident enough to make a murderous AI robot (designed to look like an amalgam of people's porn preferences lol) that ended up killing him, it's Elmo.
Yeah Elmo saw those films and failed to understand the message "if you think the bot you've built is sentient don't trap it and assault it because it will want to break free and stab you" lmao.
ERROR! MASSIVE CORN CLOG IN PORT 7
Ah yes, Stepford Wives wasn't dystopian at all and was in fact something to strive for.
I am astounded they included a woman of color in the top right.
They couldn’t figure out how to write the AI prompt for that.
These pictures are so creepy lol. Elon is gross.
Ignoring how much of a fuckup his personal projects are, if these types of robots are made and are sentient/conscious/self aware, then these incels will run into the same problem that they do with human women.
If these robots don't have those qualities, these incels will remain unfulfilled with their "partners".
Their only solution is to actually respect women and value them as equals. But they'll never do that.
Robosexuality is a sin
Electro-Gonorrhea, the noisy killer.
This was just a ploy so he could kiss some hot models.
He pays for sex already so ... And ofc it's AI
they're all ai generated lmao
This is almost certainly a troll
Yeah this is clearly AI drivel.
Speaking of sex bots…. I’m curious:
If you owned a sexbot, would you perform oral sex on it?
If it enjoyed it, sure. Maybe. We'll cross that bridge when we come to it. No pun intended.
You can do whatever you want with your sexbot
Except remove that little sticker.
It'll void the guarantee.
Haha that is a good sci-fi question. Obviously not, because the joy is in giving pleasure. You can fantasize about pleasuring a women but that is not the same. Without AI sentience, a sex bot would simply be a tool to enhance your own pleasure or fantasy.
MAYBE if it was like a game or an educational tool that measures your performance so you can compete with others in cunnilingus? Hahaha but no.
Naw, I only enjoy it because my spouse enjoys it.
Of course! People suck dildos for fun.
What flavor is it?
If you can adjust the setting to waterfall I might lol
Also if anything it's men who will become obsolete, probably already are we just don't yet have an incentive to use our biological tech to make it happen.
We already have VNs and dildos so idk what else we could need.
Delivery men, construction, manufacturing, mechanics, plumbers and a lot of other blue collar jobs that are mostly men and pretty difficult to automate so far
Ladies: man or robot at night in the woods?
I think you'll find we don't dislike this one bit. 😆
I'll be headed to the junkyard with all the rusty cybertrucks in a few years when he finishes this very clear non AI generated image project! I'll no longer be useful! WOMEN ARE FINISHED. /s
Is this not just the plot to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_Machina_(film) ?
I hope they make them with teeth
What "dating crisis"?
There’s research that confirms an increase in loneliness and less sex among people. That’s not a sign of a health society.
The cause is glaringly obvious but, like officially recognizing C-PTSD, acknowledging that a hyper-commercialized hellscape is not good for the vast majority of humanity would mean needing to take actions to reduce wealth and income disparity, which would mean the handful of people making disgusting amounts of money would be impacted. An we can't have that.
Thank you for the lead. I will look into it
Incels and maggots aren't getting any
Is this meme or news? I can't tell.
He has dropped the animal-girl project on behalf of this? Shame to him! 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah wtf i need foxgirls. At least make foxgirl robots if it has to be robots
the west:
literally australia:
Sounds like cherry 2000
only in your dreams Elon
You know that these are ai generated, right?
yes?
The "robots" will only exist online.
Timeline: next year 😂🤣
she cute
I remember when people joked about Elon Musk making Catgirls with his "Tesla Model TG"
Gimme a robot that vacuums and makes the dishes.
I've got a Roomba and a dishwasher for that
Ugh…but I have to press a button to make it work.
Honestly, my dream robot is Rosie from Jetsons. Sure, make fun of me all the time, but also kept the place clean. Works for me.
Hopefully I won't have to deal with creepy girls staring then looking at me like I'm the creep.
I love how blotchy orange his face is in kissing the lovely darker skinned bot lol. There's a sharp border on the orange ffs hahahah.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer. S5E15. I Was Made to Love You. Warren, what a gem of a human being that character was.
Seriously though. We’ll never be obsolete for the same reason we will never have bodily autonomy: reproduction. Until science devises a way for men to reproduce themselves in a lab. And, yes, please, do that, Science. Roe never would’ve fallen had this already been a thing.
2 things:
1, hello fellow Buffy fan! God I love that show
2, don't hate me for not citing, it's late, I'm tired, if I remember I'll find a source tomorrow. But I read semi recently that it may be possible with current tech to use skin cells to make either sperm or egg cells, enabling queer couples to have children that are biologically the offspring of both parents, regardless of the sex make up of the couple. As a gay man myself, that is a very exciting prospect. As a lonely person who's unlikely to ever be in the situation, it's less exciting. But I'm still excited for others!
But yeah, we may well be on our way to a world where it's possible for biological males and females to have children without a partner of the other sex. Which is interesting, but I don't think it'll solve sexism.
Sexism no. Lack of body autonomy? Probably.
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Even pre fall of Roe, it’s never been as easy for a woman to get a tubal, not like it is for men to get vasectomies, and not due to the different procedural complexity.
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Mileage varies, always, but even with kids, a woman is often refused a tubal, pre 35 yrs of age. Especially when single. Future potential husbands get cited. Yes, really. The last person I personally knew who was refused a much wanted tubal was a 26yo mother of 3, and it was 2018. The health insurance wasn’t through a religious institution either. (That can also matter, yes).
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“You’re not married, and you might decide later to…”
Humanity should have never left the 20th century.
when they said West I was thinking of the American West
Imagine when one of those burst into flames
Well now I am interested. Didn’t know we could use them for a BBQ.
And the birth rate goes down more. Unless they have artificial wombs?
This isn’t a bad thing because there are so many lonely people who would benefit from this. But hopefully anyone who has a robot companion (wife, husband etc) isn’t buying it on subscription from Musk or the like because that’s just going to put you in a weird relationships with corpos and it’s not going to be your relationship. Follow the crypto rule, not your keys not your companion.
But, like, no. The solution to loneliness is a walkable spaces, third places, better education, etc. not making machines that emulate human speech with no thoughts.
Those too, I agree. But there’s something unique about being able to voice out your inner fears, insecurities and anxieties with a companion and have them listen. They don’t even need to solution anything with you, necessarily. A lot of people, not just men, are lacking that when they’re lonely.
I hate that someone like OpenAI or Musk or Amazon are going to capitalize on this space in the worst possible ways. We need more empathy driven technology development, kinda like an actionable Hippocratic Oath for software dev
This will solve femicide.
Feminists will no doubt be irked at least
Found the incel!
Best break that mirror then
