Ohio sate senator makes comment at rally hosted by Donald Trump’s running mate JD Vance
A Republican state senator has called for “civil war” if Donald Trump loses the presidential election in November.
George Lang, an Ohio politician, made the comment as he introduced JD Vance at his first solo campaign event since becoming Trump’s running mate.
After taking to the stage fist-raised and shouting Trump’s post-shooting battle cry “Fight! Fight!”, Mr Lang warned of an existential threat facing Americans. He declared in front of a large, heated crowd in Ohio: “We are in the fight for the soul of our nation… for our kids, for our grandkids, it is a fight we can never imagine.
“I believe wholeheartedly, Donald Trump and Butler County’s JD Vance are the last chance to save our country. Politically, I’m afraid if we lose this one, it’s going to take a civil war to save the country.”
The US would win without ever firing a single shot. Cut off electricity, the countless food products we import, imported fuel, cheap products from China, USPS/FedEx/Amazon Prime/etc, and so on. A week of eating gruel in the dark and they'll be begging to rejoin the US.
Bullfuckingshit. I said it when Trump was shot at, and I'll keep saying it: only ONE party has been ramping up the rhetoric for violence, and it sure as fuck isn't coming from Democrats. These morons obviously don't care if they get shot at again, because it's not in their minds that they are causing the problem.
This is their M.O. though:
Identify a target to rant about
Call for violence
Say you're TOTALLY FUCKING SERIOUS THIS TIME
Apologize and act like that's enough, knowing what you said will stick with the crowd, but the Democrats aren't going to call bullshit.
Here's a thought: Biden uses his last 6 months of King Powers granted by the SC to put everyone of these fuckers in jail by Executive Order on sedition and treason charges, backing it up by making it an "Official Act" since Trump was shot at, and these assholes are trying to get more people shot at. That'll shut them the fuck up.
Historically speaking, not purging your opposition after an attempted coup or change of power is one of the dumbest decisions you can make, second only to putting/leaving the opposition in positions of power and also making them your successor.
In American history, we saw it with Lincoln, resulting in his assassination and the end of reconstruction, and less dramatically, we saw it when Obama (and more recently Biden) left like half of Bush's appointees in power, who immediately use their power to sabotage the administration.
Call your Senators and Representatives and give them an earful about this. If they shrug you off or they are on the side of those calling for civil war, then let other gov't officials know.
We collectively need to stop allowing these shit lords from getting away with putting the idea of war against each other into the minds of those that otherwise know it's wrong but just follow groupthink
Yes, the alt right and Republicans generally have been ramping up violent rhetoric. They broke the social contract and thus are no longer covered by it.
They are now valid targets of violence.
It's a subtle distinction but important one and one we on the left must be careful to employ because the Alt-right will use any violence against them and will respond in kind.
I mean, you're totally right until the last paragraph. I don't think Biden locking them up by executive order would shut them up. I think it's more likely that would spark the civil war they're so desperate to have. They're like Kyle Rittenhouse, just waiting for an excuse to shoot a leftist.
Sorry, it doesn't read with inflection properly I guess. I guess just every time some random trying to curry favor with Trump calls for violence or a Civil War, that there should be punishment. Seems Biden can do that now milli-vanilli, and he should use it for some good.
I see people constantly saying that democracy will end, there wont be elections again, they will do all kinds of evil things, etc. How is that not ramping up rhetoric for violence?
Trump has specifically said these things. The Project 2025 psychos have said these things. Those are threats. Therefore, that is a threat to democracy, and democracy ending. So again, it's only coming from one side, the MAGA clowns.
If we lose this election we will need to have a civil war to save the country? So what he's saying, in essence, is that if Trump can't get enough support to win an election, his supporters should overthrow the government. Am I understanding that correctly?
As a Latin American it is so surreal to see American politicians behave the same way as their counterparts in countries like Nicaragua and Venezuela, hopefully things are not going to go down this route
The temperature is definitely rising. I'd be lying if I said I'd be cool with Republicans succeeding at keeping Harris (or whoever the Dem pick is) off the ballots in any state - we have a questionable democracy right now... we'd definitely not have a democracy then.
And those same mendacious, disingenuous fuck-knuckles get pseudo-patriotism boners when Trump whips out the "I took a bullet for democracy" line, without an ounce of shame or even self-awareness.
Your definition of democracy seems to hinge on your own whims.
Your desperation to invalidate democracy based on a switching of candidates shows two things… 1 shit happens… not too different as the decades pass, and 2 you don’t understand the meaning of “democracy” and are desperate to just talk shit…
Dems switching candidates doesn’t invalidate democracy it just shows how desperate you are to discount it…
What? I'm talking about Republicans suing to keep a democrat off the ticket - that's a much different ball game than the convention. I want an open process in both arenas without tampering.
Way to completely miss what he said there. He said "with republicans SUCCEEDING AT KEEPING HARRIS OFF OF THE BALLOTS". How the fuck does this drivel have so many upvotes when it completely misses the argument.
Oh no! What will we do if morbidly obese 70 year-old slobs who are so afraid of cities that they think they need a gun to visit San Francisco start a civil war? How will we ever defeat the sandy vagina brigade that thinks a reality TV host is a big a strong man?
San Fran? I live in rural America and I see twits like this at the grocery store. They are too scared to go buy a gallon of milk without being strapped.
Odds are there will be no real civil war. The assault on the capitol only worked because Trump was in power letting it happen, and even then they didn't get too far. A lot of those assholes went to prison.
I believe them and that’s why I want to have them start a civil war. It’s the best way to purge these elements and it won’t take days to do so, more like minutes.
things were going pretty well in 1860, until states decided the constitution didn't apply to them, which is likely the same scenario this time if anything were to happen.
Enough is enough. Shit like this is putting us on a path for another insurrection.
Here is a sample letter to provide George Lang, especially if you are an OH resident.George Lang contact form
subject: "Call for Resignation Due to Undemocratic Remarks"
Dear Senator Lang,
I am writing to express my profound disappointment and concern regarding your recent comments about the potential need for a civil war if certain political outcomes are not achieved. Your statement, “I’m afraid if we lose this one, it’s going to take a civil war to save the country, and it will be saved,” is not only deeply irresponsible but also fundamentally undemocratic. Such rhetoric is dangerous and unbecoming of a public servant in a democratic society.
As a concerned citizen, I am compelled to voice my strong objection to your words. They undermine the very principles upon which our nation was founded: the peaceful transition of power and the rule of law. Democracy thrives on debate, disagreement, and ultimately, the will of the people as expressed through free and fair elections. The suggestion that violence is an acceptable response to losing an election is antithetical to these principles.
An apology for this grave error is simply not sufficient. The damage caused by promoting the idea of civil unrest as a solution to political disagreement cannot be undone with mere words of regret. Your statement has the potential to incite division and violence, putting our nation and its citizens at risk.
In light of the seriousness of your comments, I call on you to resign from your position as a United States Senator. The responsibilities of your office require a commitment to uphold democratic values and to lead with integrity. Your recent remarks have shown a disregard for these responsibilities, and as such, stepping down is the most honorable course of action you can take for the sake of our country's stability and unity.
The United States faces numerous challenges that require thoughtful, collaborative solutions. It is imperative that our leaders prioritize dialogue and cooperation over divisive and inflammatory rhetoric. I urge you to consider the impact of your words and to take responsibility for them by resigning your seat.
Subject: "Urgent: Call to Denounce Undemocratic Rhetoric and Advocate for Resignation"
Dear Senator [Senator's Name],
I am writing to express my profound disappointment and concern regarding recent comments made by Senator George Lang about the potential need for a civil war if certain political outcomes are not achieved. His statement, “I’m afraid if we lose this one, it’s going to take a civil war to save the country, and it will be saved,” is not only deeply irresponsible but also fundamentally undemocratic. Such rhetoric is dangerous and unbecoming of a public servant in a democratic society.
As your constituent, I am compelled to voice my strong objection to such words. They undermine the very principles upon which our nation was founded: the peaceful transition of power and the rule of law. Democracy thrives on debate, disagreement, and ultimately, the will of the people as expressed through free and fair elections. The suggestion that violence is an acceptable response to losing an election is antithetical to these principles.
An apology for this grave error is simply not sufficient. The damage caused by promoting the idea of civil unrest as a solution to political disagreement cannot be undone with mere words of regret. His statement has the potential to incite division and violence, putting our nation and its citizens at risk.
In light of the seriousness of these comments, I call on you to take a stand against such rhetoric. I urge you to publicly denounce these remarks and advocate for Senator Lang's resignation from his position. The responsibilities of a United States Senator require a commitment to uphold democratic values and to lead with integrity. His recent remarks have shown a disregard for these responsibilities, and as such, stepping down is the most honorable course of action he can take for the sake of our country's stability and unity.
The United States faces numerous challenges that require thoughtful, collaborative solutions. It is imperative that our leaders prioritize dialogue and cooperation over divisive and inflammatory rhetoric. I urge you to consider the impact of these words and to take a firm stand for democracy.
Thank you for your attention to this matter. I look forward to your response and to seeing our representatives uphold the values that make our country strong.
Sincerely,
[Your Name]
Make sure to send to both senators, regardless of their party.
I promise you they don't read this shit and either have free volunteering moronic and willing slave laborers read this or pay a few interns minimum wage to read all this shit and send back pre-written canned replies.
Sending this is likely a complete waste of fucking time. I wouldn't know for sure, but I'm willing to bet money on it.
Honestly, at this point I'm getting tired of them saying it all the time.
Do it.
It would not go the way they think it would go, and the confederate/nazi/MAGA party would be swiftly defeated within days/hours. They do not have the support they think they have, most Americans don't let politics run their lives and Fox poison their brains and a civil war would actually wake those Americans up to the seriousness of what's going on right now.
At the end of the day, starting a whole-ass war because some people get to have a better life than the bible says they should just isn't a good cause. It sucks that a lot of people think otherwise.
Not with a supreme court that's willing to say Unicorns exist for the sake of a legal argument. Law means nothing in this land for republicans right now.
It should be noted that a large swath of that act has been overturned by the supreme court in the decades since the 40s.
It's where we get the distinction between "advocating for revolution" and "telling people to revolt, now".
One is protected because "violent revolution" in an abstract sense is a protected political policy position.
The law was originally used to target unionists and socialists who said we needed to tear the system down and rebuild it, by force if necessary.
What isn't protected is an imminent call to action or direct incitement to lawlessness.
Advocating for the ability to do something that violates the current law is the only way to advocate for changing a law.
Save the country from what exactly? Save it from gay rights? Save it from trans rights? That's it isn't it? They want to save the country from human fucking rights.
They invoke “civil war” phrase every time they feel threatened, and then wonder why their candidate faced an assassination. Who do they think is the dumbass here? Their voters? Or the opposition?
So they're moving on to this to scare people from voting because they know they're absolutely fucked right now. Fuck that nonsense, VOTE. Volunteer to help give rides to people that otherwise wouldn't be able to vote.
I think that is what modern civil war in america would be, the country is too split for some kind of army situation. The urban-rural divide makes it rather strange.
If we have another civil war, we can learn from our biggest mistake too.
Finish Reconstruction.
We can accept their secession, conquer them, and then keep them as territories. During that time, we can enact policy that helps all Americans. Restore fairness standards in news reporting, wipe out the KKK, pass a voter's bill of rights, tax churches equally, replace FPTP with IRV, and abolish the electoral college.
If we don't address the brainwashing, it'll happen a third time too. They can have a little bit of authoritarianism if they want it so much.
It’s so funny that these people will then turn around and deny all of the violence and unrest brought about by MAGA.
Charlottesville, January 6th, the attack on Paul Pelosi, the attempted kidnapping, torture and execution of Gretchen Whitmer, I could go on. They even wrote 900 pages on how they want to dismantle decades of progress in the US.
They then have the audacity to say that it’s the democrats who need to “turn down the rhetoric” and stop trying to take away their rights?
What say we start a list of the posts saying this and after Trump loses to that black lady we spam the posts back onto their feeds?
Name and shame these cunts, if they can't play fair eliminate their voting rights. If that isn't enough send them to prison. If that's not enough, I'm sure you can extrapolate. There is no room for bad faith actors in our country.
The extremes of both parties appear to believe that their opponent's victory would end American democracy. I don't mean to equate the two parties (I think only the red one is actually a threat). I'm just worried that we'll be seeing much more violence than we're used to.