I was on the fence about them for past shenanigans but this is the final nail in the coffin. My friends are now telling me that musk did not, in fact do a Nazi salute because his fingers weren't pointed the right way
They just figure that this time, Jews will be far down enough on the list of "first they came for..." that MAGA will burn itself out before it gets to them.
You guys are lucky to have AOC. I'm a non-American that only knows her from memes and screenshots like this but I'm a fan. Especially compared to all the other dead fish.
It used to be okay to kill Nazi's on sight, as they are not only a threat to National Security, but a threat to humane values itself. Our grandfathers watched people die in droves for the chance to kill a Nazi. Now? You'll probably be shot or arrested by police for killing a Nazi.
Buuuuuut....as I'm sure you already know, the entire US space capability was thanks to Nazis who were brought in after the war so that their scientific efforts could be used by "the good guys". They, unsurprisingly, were still Nazis. America has a long history of working with/being run by Nazis, White Supremacists, and just general bigots and racists.
Wow. I was willing to believe that the still pictures were just perfectly timed to make it look like something it wasn't. But it totally is a Nazi salute.
Yeah, this was the first time I saw it in motion. How anyone could try to spin this as anything else is wild. We're to the part in 1984 where we're told to reject the evidence of our eyes and ears...
Imagine how minimally functional your brain has to be to think this is anything other than a blatant sieg heil.
Now wrap your mind around the majority of voting Americans voting for this future.
The only advice I can give anyone at this point is to not hold too much hope for the future of this nation. Lower your expectations. It'll help you get through what's coming.
Man, I still remember everyone telling me I was over reacting when the Republicans cOiNcIdEnTaLlY had an Odal rune for a stage and that they weren't really Nazis.
I kinda get the feeling that part of this was a loyalty test for main stream media to see how they were going to report on something that was obviously a nazi salute.
Was it going to be "Musk is swatting at fly, the liberal media goes off the rails with crazy nazi conspiracies."
Or
"Musk is a fucking nazi, he needs to be deported"
Which is going to get the "love" of this administration?
Moral absolutes are correct in case of Nazis. Death is the only correct moral choice. With enough evidence, sentence should be carried out by anyone able, with enough evidence.
Just keep it tightly regulated, obvz. But Nazis were the real pollutant to the gene pool the whole time.
I still like the idea of using them for science until they die though. Only way to get that human testing done.
Currently seems to be explaining it away as not a nazi salute, pretty sure the only worse outcome would be yeah it was we don't care. Which is what the actual nazis are going with but not the more mainstream view, yet.
If its going to go that way I hope we can get to the point of the nazis being shot in the head faster than last time.
E: Musk is such an ass that I wouldn’t hesitate to suggest he did it deliberately to troll liberals and press. Not because he holds any actual nazi beliefs (though he absolutely could) but because he just wanted to stir the shit in the news.
So he literally turns around and does it a 2nd time.
How can anyone deny it now? There's no way this is coincidence, like he's just really awkward with gestures and was bad at throwing his hand in the air to the crowd. This can't be explained away.
Wtf bullshit argument or defense is he and his supporters going to spew out?
They all say he's such a genius, but he's unaware of how close this gesture is to a nazi salute? There's no way this can be defended. It's just too obvious.
It's called post-truth and gaslighting in some developments of the phenomenon. I think this is, among other things, an experiment coming from the Donald administration.
Exactly this. People still don't seem to grasp it, but they will soon. This is the end game. No need to pretend anymore, they got the thing they've been working towards for decades.
My only hope is that the GOP splinters over this kind of shit and destroys itself. But I'm not holding my breath.
And there are people desperately trying to say he wasn't doing a nazi salute. I refuse to let someone tell me I'm not seeing what's right in front of my eyes.
“This is just a distraction from [the class war / taxes / Russia / China / the Koreas / India / ... ]!”
“Allegedly, he seemingly did a gesture that resembles a fascist salute. He could've been having a heart attack and pointing at a paramedic. You don't know.”
“It’s a tic. He’s had it since he was a child. I read about it on this random screenshot of a news article from 2018.”
“The Roman Salute, as it is known amongst historians, can be seen in many statues. Here’s a link to one. Things have history, Alex. God. Not everything is nazis.”
“So his views are a little extreme. Most people would argue they’re vile. I certainly don’t agree with them, but people. Please. Civility and decorum must rule. I’d fight for his right to blahblahblah..."
"I'm sorry; we can't hear you over our Economic Anxiety. Groceries are too expensive and people are homeless! That's why we elected nazis. Please be more understanding of our extra special circumstances and ignorance."
"It's legal to do that in the USofA. Where is it not legal? Germany? Interesting! Gosh their freezepeach laws are a bit restrictive, eh? Controlling how we move our bodies? Sounds like something a nazi would want."
And on. And if you engage with it, they'll just turn on some kind of AI bot thingy to continue the "conversation," taking up even more space online.
Truly... They might be past that. Some of them at least. That was all for show so they can get to this point. This is the end game. They got what they wanted and can go mask off. Elon doing the salute is just the first evidence of that. Expect a whole lot more to come.
I can't even express in words how fucking stupid and cringe this guy is... That comic is some shit I would have found clever when I was 12 years old and my understanding of politics was 100% shaped by the Fox News that was constantly playing in my house. Imagine being a full-formed adult human, and thinking this was some kind of deep thought.
Granted, I never thought he'd get this far, but I've been saying for nearly a decade now that Musk is a lucky scammer who will do anything if it benefits himself.
I wonder how many people are left of the original musk groupies that thought musk was so cool and was going to save the world.
On the bright side, if we're remarking on history's propensity for repetition, consider how much the odds have just gone up that Elon's personal timeline now ends doused in gasoline and set alight in a ditch, like a pasty, doughy little pile of garbage.
People keep asking when the Apartheid Manchild turned this way. I maintain that he was always this way and is now just comfortable expressing it. But I think, too, the increasingly erratic behaviour has a cause.
Look up the list of symptoms of ketamine abuse.
Now look up the increasingly bizarre behaviour of the Apartheid Manchild.
There are intriguing parallels. Right down to the paranoia.
I speculated a short while back that with Musk’s true dream of immortality seeming less plausible every year, he has turned his sights on being remembered by history.
I think I was right, and some sort of drug fueled edgelord logic has led him to conclude that fear is strong and universal, and being a cacking villain gets your name to “stick” with people the most.
Or his ridiculous luck has given him the world’s worst case of Main Character syndrome, and the game play that amuses his fried brain involves griefing the NPCs.
He was Time's person of the year too. Funny that you got a downvote for speaking this but it's so important to remember.
All of this is correct, but people get really pissed at these facts because we live in a demented cartoon world where the majority of people run on reactions and feelings, so if they read anything other than emotional condemnations they lose their shit. Which is exactly why we have another set of Hitlers gaining power without resistance. Because you idiots out there can't get it through your thick skulls that people like Hitler and the Nazis were PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND ME. Not monsters, not inhuman creatures, but idiots who thought they were doing the right thing because they let reactions and feelings guide them.
Are fox, newsmaxxx, and oan covering it as much as they should? Or are they mentioning it once at an off time so they can say “see we covered it” and then never mentioning it when people are actually watching?
That was an accident you libtard!! He just did something that really looked like a nazi salute... twice... b-but it wasnt a nazi salute!! y'all be calling anyone a nazi nowadays...
And look!!! kamala also did a nazi salute!!
A-And she definitely wasnt just waving her hand... uhhmm...
bro he was clearly slapping a fly on his chest and then throwing it away and then he turned around and did it again c'mon the radical left will say anyone is a nazi these days
Propose alternatives. I'm not especially fond of the labels either (especially since the "left" in the USA is "right centrist" in Canada or "borderline Nazi" in most sane places in the world; left/right is very relative), but it's the terminology that's used and when communicating you either use the extant terminology or you spend most of your time defining and redefining your terms in every message you post (and still get people mapping it to "left" and "right" anyway).
Nope. It is the far right gaining immense amount of power while both moderate right, left and "extreme left" are yelling at the terrorists (far right) wanting to crash the airplanes in the towers.
Be aware that if you lean in the far right, you risk going down with the terrorists while the "osama bin laden" of this story (and to be clear, I mean Elon) will be hidden behind the safety of his bunker.
Or if you like anime analogy (and spoilers of boku no hero academy): spoiler
It is like trying to get favors from all for one in the hopes that he won't fuck over your country (and the anime is explicit in saying that it isn a matter of if. Only when.)
Super weird you don't post videos of any of those other folks like there's a video/gif of Elon. It's not because someone captured a 1 second frame of someone waving at the crowd out of context to try to justify a literal fucking sig heil salute, is it?
Despite the Dem party having their own problems with fascism, this proves nothing. The video during shows him exactly copying the Hitlergruess, unlike someone hailing a taxi or waving to the crowd. Please don't defend this douche-bag. He is not any sort of rebel rising up to defeat the American Empire, he is part of the American Empire.
We all knew what it was but I do have to admit I am actually kind of surprised at how well the timing is. In terms of the pause and intensity its almost identical.
Everyone funded a genocide. If you paid taxes, you did too.
I'm not trying to excuse Biden for his love for Israel and material support for them, but singling out "the opposing party" as the issue here is missing the method of reform that's actually going to fix it. The issue is American politics and media, and the American system. Let's fix that. If you thought singling out the Democrats as the problem that needed to be got rid of was going to fix it, brother just wait, because you succeeded and your plan is going into action as of now.
Yes, the person seeing a literal Nazi salute from someone Trump is giving a lot of authority to, and using that as an excuse to attack the Democrats instead of saying "this is fucked up", is definately very concerned about genocide...
This, my friend, is a 400ton edgelord take. One could talk about the underlying analysis but my, your tone is the first thing that strikes me. No one Hi will suffer under this administration would understand this. Fishing for purity-vs-sheeples won't help anyone.
P. S. : In my book, the dems are awful, and I'm not even an US citizen, so I'm not directly concerned.
I just hope you're very young and will regret your wording one day.