Donald Trump's victory could lead to porn being banned, as it is a key agenda item of Project 2025, the conservative manifesto for a Republican presidency.
Summary
Project 2025, a manifesto supported by the conservative Heritage Foundation, calls for a ban on pornography, labeling its purveyors as criminals and advocating for strict penalties, including jail time for producers and registered sex offender status for educators distributing it.
The manifesto argues that porn lacks First Amendment protection, framing it as harmful and exploitative.
With a right-leaning Supreme Court, proponents aim to overturn existing protections established in Miller v. California, potentially impacting mainstream media.
Donald Trump has pledged to bring Project 2025 contributors onto his team.
There are lots of things they do that're scandalous. That's not one of them. There's already enough puritanical bullshit fucking up the US. It's about time some of it were left in the past.
Historically, you can’t be charged for crimes you committed before the law criminalizing them was passed. However, precedence and fair application of the law have lost all meaning so you could be arrested, but she wouldn’t.
registered sex offender status for educators distributing it
If a book in your classroom or school library has anything beyond a heterosexual peck on the cheek, congratulations, you're now a sex offender. Not a joke.
In my school in the Bible belt that was primarily what they focused on. I don't remember much time being given to condoms. I certainly don't remember ever being given one or shown how to use it (not that it's that difficult or anything, but still).
But what I do remember is a speaker coming to our school to talk to us about how he had sex outside of marriage and got a girl pregnant, but he did the right thing and got married. Also, and I cannot stress this enough, he described this as abstaining because he married the person he had sex with.
That was mine... In the early 00s. And again with a guest speaker... In my advanced marketing class... In the late 00s. I will never forget how that lady sat on a desk, explaining with vivid, passionate excitement and lust, how waiting for your life partner to be your first time is, moans and quivers, so good~
The fuck, Smith, I thought we were going to fuck around and watch movies while you go "make some copies" only to never return, like every other day. The fuck is this shit. Even your own kid in this class is visibly distraught and confused. Poor guy is fucking scarred for life.
First, they came for the trans people* and I did nothing because I am not trans.
Then they came for the immigrants and I did nothing because I am not an immigrant.
Then they came for women's rights and I did nothing because I am not a woman.
Then they came for the... wait, what? Hold up!
* They came really hard for the trans people. Like strangely hard. Like they had some kind of fixation.
Historically speaking people have two things they riot for, safety and comfort. How that comfort manifest varies but pornography is definitely on the same level as whiskey, and the United states has had a rebellion on that.
Well luckily the military has a good chance of not listening to him, atleast in my opinion. The police on the other hand are more of a threat, though not an insurmountable one.
And again, the US totally failed to learn from history. This time, even their own history. Do you actually have history classes in school, or has this been replaced by "American" "football" or "Cheerleading" classes already?
Hint: I'm talking about 1920 to 1933, when organized crime in the US was thriving like mad due to a similar stupid idea. This time, it won't be any better. Keywords: Volstead Act and Cullen-Harrison Act
My history classes were how heroic the founding fathers were (nothing about how they owned slaves until college), how the civil war was about states rights, how we kicked total ass in WW2 except FDR was kind of a dictator and had too many terms, and how LBJ fucked up Vietnam and it was his fault we lost. They did offer an AP History class and it was a bit more truthful than what I had so far up to that point, but was still subject to the same school board’s oversight.
It was very “both sides had a point but the rightmost point is the correct one”.
This was in the 90s and early 2000s in rural Appalachia.
Once I got to college I was like uhhhh what? It’s crazy to me that the federal government subsidizes and provides education that is going to lead to its own downfall. Maybe we DO need to dismantle the department of Education.
Holy shit did I just red pill myself?
Joking of course. These people can’t even govern their own impulses (see Epstein and rampant pedophilia on the right).
It makes me wonder what the rest of the country outside my state is even learning. When I was in high school, it felt like WW2 was the ONLY history being taught in regular history class. I had to take an elective, AP, European history class just to learn something other than the American revolution, the civil war, civil rights movement, women's sufferage, and WW2.
Hilarious. As if this could ever actually be instituted nationwide. Regulations on sale and access maybe, but moral crusades like this are perpetually doomed to failure, much like the War on Drugs.
Doesn't mean they won't try, won't posture, won't grandstand about it, but to actually succeed in this goal when over 50% of the populace isn't going to be behind it? I guess we'll just have to watch them try.
Like cops "smelling weed" anytime they want to hassle someone. If they don't like a person, they'll spy on their Internet usage, obviously find some kind of porn, and then make a public spectacle out of to distract from what they're mad at that person for.
They don't care about the crime, they want an excuse to investigate people they don't like.
Say something mean on twitter, and they'll search your IP till they find something they can call porn.
They'll say they're gonna ban it and when there's uproar they'll say to "protect the kids" you need a digital ID to access porn. Then they'll expand it to everything, ban VPN's, encryption and there will be no more privacy. Big brother is watching, and if he deems you too woke, for whatever arbitrary reason, you're off to the gulag.
The war on drugs only failed if you truly believe its goal was getting rid of drugs.
To quote John Erlichman, one of its architects:
“The Nixon Campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar Left, and Black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or Black. But by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and Blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”
By the strandards of what it was created to do, the war on drugs was fantastically successful.
The war on porn will be successful in exactly the same way, because Republicans have already spent decades redefining all LGBTQ content as "pornographic". This is will be a tool for disrupting queer and trans communities, for erasing queer and trans resources and tearing down queer and trans rights activists. Stopping porn isn't the point, and it never was.
Strange comparison. The war on drugs wrecked so many lives, and hasn't really ended, just cooled off a little. I don't see that as a cause for optimism.
It's meant as a comparison in terms of Moral Crusades via Prohibition tactics. I have a feeling that a "ban" on pornography will likely end the same way, with hyperbolic responses and lives disrupted to no positive resolutions. But it really seems untenable as a concept, that genie is so far out of the bottle that there is no bottle anymore; only the whole entire internet
No, but they can go after the owners and operators of major porn sites and have them shut down (and possibly executing them). Then the subsequent chilling effect that will occur, making sure nobody dares try to take their place.
You could probably use a VPN and find stuff, but say goodbye to pornhub, youporn, xvideos, etc. And in certain states they will probably make accessing it illegal (or simply using a VPN at all. And no, it will not matter that they're legitimately needed for all sorts of legal shit, it'll be used at the government's discretion (which means singling out people who are using it to access porn. Until it isn't, and they use it for whatever they want because they are the law).
This is what fascism is. People really don't seem to grasp this. We need to stop viewing he world from this current paradigm, because come January 20, this nation will become unrecognizable.
They don't care about total enforcement. They'll just use it against their enemies and people they want to take down while protecting their own. Rules for thee etc
This is what people don't seem to grasp about fascism... It doesn't matter. None of the rules or social mores that you've known since you were born will matter anymore.
People need to read some history books, this has happened before. We aren't special, it is already happening here.
The one thing this election has all but confirmed for me is that over half of the country supports these things unabashedly, and I highly doubt porn will be the hero that magically changes these people. It's already banned in multiple conservative states, and all of them just voted red again.
Honestly, I believe that if the Trump admin brought back prohibition, his bootlickers would be the first in line telling us how it's the best idea ever.
Then maybe they should have known that Project 2025 called for that before they decided to vote for Trump.
Violence against women is about to skyrocket when the incels can't get a date because they're too repulsive and can't watch porn to take out their sexual frustrations because of what they voted for.
Nah, genZ are apparently prudes. They have less sex and apparently don't like fan service in media. Puritanism and teetotaling is the new counterculture.
I've suspected the less sex has more to do with hookup culture being undesirable and lack of face-to-face communication. Not to mention "who can afford kids in this economy?"
I'm pretty sex positive and pro-porn myself but compared to deporting legal immigrants with the wrong skin color or forcing motherhood on unconsenting women it's pretty unimportant.
Also like... destroying our entire government bureaucracy.
Can they actuate such measures? Of course they can, look at Italy. Is it realistic? Well, that depends on how stupid they are. Italy has blocked google trying to ban piracy and the "shield" is easily avoided with a vpn, but hey, they are trying.
If you don't have access to a good VPN (one based outside of the US) and a separate thumb drive for TailsOS, I suggest getting both and learning how to use them before it becomes a lot more difficult to do so
I am not a fan of porn. I find it problematic. But fucking get real, no one’s banning porn. Everyone has a porn-producing camera in their pocket. These fucking idiots, I hope they all have painful and protracted aneurysms.
No, you dont get it. They want to do it precisely because everyone has a porn-producing camera in their pocket, and they can selectively enforce what gets prosecuted. Who wants to bet they go after the gay "porn" first? (And by porn, I mean "picture of two men kissing")
Everyone has a porn-producing camera in their pocket.
One corollary is that it'd probably make a little easier for law enforcement/government agencies to subpoena ISPs or snoop around in phones looking for things that aren't porn. Realistically probably won't happen but I bet this is a cop's wet dream similar to 'distinct smell of marijuana'. Plausible deniability is big brother's best friend
Again, at the risk of repeating myself: they will not need subpoenas dude. That's not how fascism works. The corporations will become an arm of the government, to be used at the whim of its sole leader, or they will be eliminated.
This has happened before.
People are still talking as if things will just continue as normal, and there will be rule of law that is in any way fair. Please wake up, people.
GOP is the party of rules for thee not for me. The leadership are all disgustingly wealthy so they can easily fly their mistresses to another country for abortions, drug fueled sex parties, etc...
Some red states have started requiring showing a government id to access the website. That was before the gop was in control of all branches of the feds. Bucket up you haven't seen America be great again yet, it's gonna be wild.
Am aware. Yes, shit bouta be wild up in this bitch. I am here for it (if they don’t kill me, anyway).
But, let’s be real: there’s nothing substantial standing in the way of accessing porn, even in a redneck backwater. Just gotta be more intelligent than a slime mold to defeat that shit.