I also wish the same for us both. But I'd like to remind you, people who rent can also find themselves complaining about the neighbour's mismatched fenceposts
I don't know if you meant for it to come off this way or not, but to me it reads like you're saying people who own homes shouldn't complain about small things. Someone else always has it worse. That doesn't mean those who are better off have no right to complain about things that annoy them (especially on the community made for complaining about mildly infuriating things).
I think it's the fact OP is calling their neighbor an asshole for fixing their fence in a less than perfect way that really irked me. I get annoyed when privileged people want to play the victim; it's something I know I should work on, but right now it's a part of my character.
Yeah, Id be going back out there with a hammer and poking those nails back through the board just enough to make it flush. let the neighbor loose an eye if they want to half ass that.
Yes, my neighbors replaced their fence after the lockdown and I have the pretty side. There are places that make you do that. And I’m NOT in a HOA. City
Yup, having just gone through a fence replacement thing and our city's building code - of the posts of the fence face your property, it's your fence. So either this fence was installed improperly and with the posts reversed (probably against code), or the OP is the owner of the shitty fence.
On a side note, the other fence also looks like the posts face in - which means there are two fences on the OPs property - another building code violation where I live.
Not everyone is handy or knows how to use tools. Instead of a passive aggressive post on Lemmy. Perhaps talk to your neighbor comment on the fence posts and offer to fix it or show him/her how to fix it.
“Hey how is it going neighbor,I saw you fixed the fence. Love the new wood, did the hardware store not have the right length? Yeah that is a bummer, I have a saw, I’m sure I could help you get those planks evened out in a few minutes if you’d like.”
The proper way to address them is "Neighbor ____" with the blank being their first name. I will let the very educational comic Pearls Before Swine illustrate:
Gonna be completely honest OP. You are really being a jackass to this person. I understand you may be displeased by the length not matching, colour even and possibly the nails. Though you have to consider most people can barely afford repairs. Also as for the nails it’s better to be safe. Get longer than shorter ones.
Have you considered just discussing the issue with them civilly. Suggest to possibly replace a few more parts of the fence or it fully as the new stable wood he put in.
Then show him how to properly replace fences. Also possibly if you have a saw for wood. Just let them know if he’s ever doing projects. He can ask or rent it from you?
Yes, the person complaining to strangers on the internet for catharsis is the jackass and not the fucker who put multiple long fucking nails through to my side of their fucking fence. The length and color might be an eyesore and idk how that person doesn't feel embarrassed at not even half assing this, but the real big complaint is the fucking nails.
Yeah, lemme just make sure nobody shitty moves next to me really quick. I can certainly afford to be picky about where I live in the current and future housing market, too.
See, there's an old saying "good fences make good neighbors", meaning that a fence allows neighbors to coexist with less friction since there are less opportunities for seeing and crossing into each other's lives and yards.
They flipped the saying around "good neighbors make good fences" because the fence here isn't that good.
It's a nice little play on words and ideas, not then telling OP to get better neighbors
I imagine that's still their property, given the fence in the foreground, but those screws sticking out could have been a great slip-and-fall style multi-million dollar lawsuit my just cutting yourself a little with a "rusty" screw. My building HOA got sued for less before I moved in, and insurance just caves without checking if it's legit since that can just up the premiums.
What a poor job lol. Looks like the fence has buck teeth!
Those are nails. It'd be better if they were screws as the extra length would be easy to snap off. Nails are less brittle so you need to cut them off or bend them over.
There's nothing like arborvitae or boxwoods to create a green wall of serenity that hides an ugly neighboring lot or fence. Takes a few years to establish, but man, it's well worth it. You never see the neighbor's bullshit again.
Presumably the fence runs between their property so they have to see it every day. Also those exposed nails could be hazardous to pets or children.
It's also pretty trivial to cut the boards to length and use appropriate fasteners. Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but I suspect this kind of carelessness is present in other parts of the neighbor's life. They've probably gotten on OP's nerves before.
HOAs exist is a way toaintain shared services; i.e. insurances, utilities and roads, most importantly, but also things like clubhouses. Shit like this comes secondary.
No table saw needed. You could use a 10 dollar hand saw from horrible freight, measure the length and pull from the finish end and cut it like a normal person.
I guess it's good he didn't cut them to match so it stands out for the guy who pulls weeds in between the property lines. They'd be less likely to get stabbed by a 16 penny nail. Even getting scraped by a nail hurts like fuck. Anyone dismissing the nail portion of this job as "ok" or "have a friendly conversation" is missing as many brain cells as the person who fixed this fence.
Its crazy how many peeps here cant see there are two separate fences with a no mans land gap between. It's really weird because Ive seen this on properties more often then I would've expected I would.
One of the most common scenarios ive seen this is when neighbor A has a pool and put the required perimeter fence for the pool but not at the property line. Also the pool and fence would be installed first. Then neighbor B put up a fence after and told the cobtractor to run their property line. I say contractor because they do as told by person paying, if it was diy fence by owner theu wouldve talked to neighbor and butted the fences back to back w/ no gap. It'd explain the neighbor not caring about the protruding screw out the back because they've never seen a single person between the two fences the entire time they put the fences up.
Other scenarios are quick fix to contain animal till full fence replacing is installed. Or neighbor with bucktooth fence, from the picture angle, looks like they have no sight line to that part of fence from house and said fucked if I care.
Texas suburban cul-de-sac, one side is road facing with tree/shrub coverage so it's not obstrusive from the roadway.
The yard also sits probably a foot down from the main ground level so it doesn't look out of place, the alternative would have been a 6/8 ft fence with like 2 ft vine trellace
The screws is probably the only thing that they need to fix up. That's a safety issue but besides that, nothing wrong with that fence.
Edit: on further inspection that fence isn't even on the property line, so it's a non issue.
My guess is there's a dispute of the existing fence, your neighbor wanted to replace it and either you or a previous owner didn't, so they did the next best thing, put up a fence on their side of the property line at a decent enough distance so they could get the privacy they wanted.
While I really dislike painting with a broad brush about any sort of “good ol’ days”…
I think there’s been a huge loss of generalist knowledge since Gen X. Gen X got to grow up with adults familiar with the pre-tech world and where a lot of things could be and needed to be fixed by yourself, and they grew up with the advent of household technology. From mending fences to replacing a capacitor in a electric motor to fixing your own car. Some of that got passed on to the kids by the boomers. I’m not trying to say this kind of knowledge was common, it was just more common. I dunno if millennials got this knowledge dump too, but if you did, you’re on the hook to pass it on as well.
I looked at the fence and couldn’t understand why someone wouldn’t take the ten minutes to trim the bottom off and buy a small box of the correct nails, but then someone could be in the position of never having been taught to think of those things. Maybe it was just laziness.
So, I appeal to my Gen X brethren - peel yourself and your kids away from the screens and find a way to get your collective hands dirty. Change some brake pads. Fix a fence right. Change the spark plug or oil in a mower. Build a raised-bed garden, even a small one, from scratch. Make the kids do the work they can. Trll them why you chose to do what you did, how you chose the parts, what you need to look out for, etc.
It’s better for problem solving skills, planning, and just understanding how things work. Spare everyone the embarrassment of a shitty fence repair job.
This isn’t a “kids these days” at all. No need for you to be offended.
It was a request to pass on generalist knowledge from generations that had a lot more exposure to it.
I left plenty of room in my statement with conditional language to allow those with knowledge like this to exist regardless of age, but you went and made it all about you.
I was raised by a parent who didn't know shit. Didn't know how to maintain a house, didn't know how to cook, barely knew how to do anything. I wished so desperately when I was a teenager and in my early twenties that I could have a mentor of some kind to teach me how to just take care of things in life.
But that wasn't an option. So now I mostly pay other people.
Unless they also put the fence up backwards, that's taken from inside the fence. So either that's your own fence, or you trespassed to take the photo. Or this story could all be totally fake, who's to say?
Looks like they each have their own fence. The neighbor has a taller fence. You can see the top of OP's fence near the bottom of the picture.
People often orient wooden fences so the nice side of it faces inward towards their yard.
Side note:
Sometimes people make their fence with every other slat on the opposite side, so there is no front and back. Both sides are identical. I don't like how those fences look. It just makes both sides look bad, and you can see through them when approaching from an angle.
I know some places have laws or guidelines that tell you to put the flat pretty side facing out, but every fence I’ve ever seen, including the one I’m looking at out the window of this business I’m at now has the flat side facing the property and the ugly side faces out