2024 Presidential Election Megapost!

It looks like people think Trump will fix the economy since that is the leading issue in exit polls. Massive trade wars are going to make the inflation of the last 2 years look mild. Americans are deeply stupid.

this many Americans think Trump was and will be a good president.

I think fewer people think this than think trump and his ignoring rules and laws is their ticket to power and influence for their cause and thing that trump is a means that is justified by the end.

I think we need to stop wondering why Republicans are doing so well and with that, lamenting that just over half of the minority voting population in this country will proudly vote for open fascists; stop imagining voters in the middle who are going to magically defect from the right if Democrats outflank them on the right's own invented issues; and start asking ourselves whose votes the Democrats are actually campaigning for if not ours.

And don't forget that Herschel Walker will be a DoD lead.

Yeah. But we need to squarely focus the blame on Harris, the campaign, the apologists who excused some of here deeply unpopular positions, and disallowed the dissent that tried to bring her to more popular positions.

In the previous 6 elections, the candidate that ran as an anti-elite populist won.

This will make 7 (if Trump wins).

Not just that, part of his campaign message was "are you better off now than you were 4 years ago". 4 years ago was lockdowns and bodies being stored in refrigerated trucks.

It is real though.

You can't expect a society dominated by oligarchs (not just on an economic and political level, but more importantly the broader social conscious) to put up any effective challenge to an oligarch candidate.

The lack of "on the ground" protest activities when that US abortion protection law was repealed is a perfect example.

Doesn't help that the US opposition is largely corrupt as well.

Hopefully he gets some more

That's crazy late to mail it OUT. Too late even to mail it back. You'll have to either find a drop box or hand deliver it to county elections HQ.

If you don't get it in time, you can always vote in person.

Everything is rigger in Texas

This is as much a referendum on the character of America. What a searing indictment that it’s even close at all.

Exactly. No matter who wins.

I call it a general intelligence test for the nation .... and even before its over, everyone already failed.

Yeah, fuck. I just feel wrecked by this.

Not really. It's not good news for climate change, but global climate policy is not solely determined by the US presidency, and there are economic and technological forces set into motion already (like much cheaper solar) that mitigate the effect somewhat compared to what a global business as usual scenario would have been without them.

That isn't to say that everything is okay, even an amount of climate change that doesn't pose much danger to the existence of future civilization still presents a personal risk to, well, everyone, due to increased natural disaster risk and such, but suggesting the door is closed on climate change is misleading; climate change is not a binary "it happens or it doesn't", it's a matter of degrees, and there are things that can influence it even without the US president on board. For threatening civilization itself, I'd say the bigger risk from Trump is the possibility that he get us into a nuclear war or something.

Goodbye Ukraine. Unless All of Europe Unites and militarizes, its over.

Yes. Yes, it is.

It's not what we want, but reality doesn't give a fuck about what we want.

We have to get ourselves ready for the shit storm that's coming.

When the going gets tough (and we all agree things are tough right now) you just need to appeal to fear and tribalism.

2 tickets with women for president 8 years apart, and we vote for the worst possible man for the job. This country is infested to its core with misogyny.

Fuck

Neither did Americans.

We already fucked up. The SOB should be nowhere near the candidacy, but here we are.

Let's not fuck up more.

Very handy, thank you!

that looks like something you'd see in a museum

Yeah. Going offline for a bit.

Trump always overperforms. Even in 2020 he did better than he had any right to. This time there is no covid hanging over his head and Biden/Harris are taking all the blame for inflation.

It also does not hurt that millions of Americans willingly consume hours of right wing propaganda everyday. Fox News remains one of if not the top cable channel (after sports) and Joe Rogan one of the top podcasts. Meanwhile CNN has shifted right, papers like the Washington post have been compromised, and the remaining “liberal media” is so obsessed with appearing unbiased that they end up “sane washing” GOP craziness and inflating minor democrat flubs.

Biden 2020 was a nail-biter of a win and thus far I don't think any of the states he won have been called for Trump. But there being no surprises in the blue direction is not very comforting even if Harris does pull it out.

Double standard. Trump wins 2016 and it's 4chan and reddit won it for him. Democrats finally get a clue 8 years later an start using social media but this time it doesn't factor.

It was the same here. Moderation in this sub (to a lessor extent) and other subs (world, news, political_memes), cultivated a garden, through bans, to echo back to themselves the world as they expected to see it. Lemmy is just as knee-jerk delusional in its bans/ down votes as reddit. Dissent gets ignored and down voted. Facts are down voted. Legitimate criticisms are down-voted. All, down-voted into oblivion, because people want a comfortable lie more than an inconvenient truth.

Knew that poll was a flaming pile of horseshit the moment it came out. Lady got lucky a few cycles in a row.

Called it. It was ONE poll flying in the face of all the others.

Gaza is definitely gone now. China probably moves on Taiwan. Ukraine is finished.

It's going to boil down to VA, PA, MI, WI, MN. A Trump win in any of them puts him over the top. Harris has to take all five four. VA just got called for Harris. 1 down, 4 to go.

MSNBC called PA for Trump, that's it. It's over.

But the "Anti-Genocide" vote in Michigan is not significant.

Donald Trump 47,322,739 votes (52.5%)
Kamala Harris 41,760,788 votes (46.3%)
Jill Stein 334,826 votes (0.4%)
Chase Oliver 334,504 votes (0.4%)
Robert Kennedy 291,829 votes (0.3%)
Other candidates 160,156 votes (0.2%)

Harris is down 6 million. The other protest votes are 10% of that.

I think that Harris will take Michigan (Go Blue! literally), but I'm really afraid that it won't matter.

It's at 33% counted right now

Bruh there are already people in this thread trying to blame the people trying to say that her stance on genocide was losing this election.

What a fucking disaster.

God I hope so... The #1 problem with polling has been trying to determine who is or is not a "likely voter".

We're seeing that in PA. 22 recent polls, 18 "Likely Voter" polls, meanwhile 100,000 new voters casting ballots early. New voters aren't counted as "likely".

I've been thinking about this too.

I've heard a lot of commentary about how polling has addressed the shortcomings of recent election cycles and that its more or less all fixed now. I do wonder though, there seems to be a heap of things that are very difficult to account for.

For example, who's actually going to vote vs just intending to vote. For example the garbage thing has motivated a lot of people to get it done.

Another is the late break. I think for a lot of people that just don't pay attention to politics, if you ask them 2 weeks ago they just haven't really thought about it - their answers are precooked from last cycle. As the big day comes around and people think about candidates, lots of traditional republicans voters will make a different choice.

Also just generally with polls is the type of person that actually completes polls. Most people ain't got time for that.

Of course I understand pollsters try to control for these things but as these problems stack up its easy to see how there can be some surprises.

That's electioneering and not allowed.

I am on edge and dooming. If Trump wins it's all over. I'll likely literally die.

Last election it 100% looked like Trump was going to win until the mail in dam broke.

Are most mail in ballots democrat this year? I thought republicans were pushing that more with their base. But I don't know if they actually did it or if they voted more in person.

How long before those are counted?

after 6 votes were counted indicating a 3-3 tie.

A 3-3 tie where there were zero registered democrats (2 undeclared and 4 registered Republicans), meaning at best both undeclared and at least one registered Republican voted for Harris. At worst it means at least 3 registered Republicans voted for Harris.

Welp.

God Republicans are such douchebags...

https://www.atlantamagazine.com/news-culture-articles/why-do-georgias-voting-stickers-now-say-i-secured-my-vote/

No real answers, but it's interesting

Wow.

the county trends in PA WI and MI compared to 2020 are looking bad. don't get your hopes up.

He’s a narcissist. He doesn’t believe he will ever actually experience any consequences. He is incapable.

or he's going to go to prison

Someone's an optimist!

Like when Palpatine was laying at the feet of Mace Windu, knowing he was at the culmination of his plans and he just needed to see which way Anakin would swing...

Unfortunately popular votes or the lack thereof don’t decide the election for either side.

NYT predicts a 0.5% Harris popular vote win based on model with current data. Hopefully it’ll be more.

Their tech team is on strike so theres that at least...

Y'all probably should've invested in your military instead of letting America foot the bill

Counting before polls close would influence voting. Even if it were "secret" you could publish fake leaks. It would devolve into a shit show of misinformation, even though we do have that already.