I would love that, I dont think the movie is terrible, its just that everything after Ford and Arthur get thrown out the airlock isnt as funny or absurd as the books. The main issue is the first 2ish books are unadaptable because there is no central conflict (or arleast the main cast dosent care or know there was supposed to be one).
Zaphod is the only person with motivation to do anything other than to continue existing, and he is unaware (or dosen't care) he is being hunted until they meet those suprisingly progessive law enforcment officers on Magrathea and when he visits the guides publishing offices.
For being what I would consider one of the founding fathers of cyberpunk, I'm surprised there hasn't been a Neuromancer film yet. Especially when so many of the tropes we know from the cyberpunk genre originated from Neuromancer, to begin with.
Watch Inception and think of Neuromancer and you will find that its probably the best closest match for the way the story is told. So many things made me realize there are so many little "I loved that story but I cant make that movie so I will just give you clues". The throwing star is the top.
An anthology-like mini series where each episode deals with one pilgrim and is written and directed by different people. As many different styles as there are pilgrims, just like how the book is written. Would translate very well to screen IMO.
Always felt like that Eragon series could have been good. Too bad they never made a movie for it. Never once. I'm sure it would have been solid if they had. But they didn't.
I think they are making an Eragon adaptation (for the first time, of course). I think Disney+ is making a series, similar to them restarting Percy Jackson.
I feel the same way about Avatar: The Last Airbender. It would have been such an amazing movie, or perhaps even a series. But alas, they've never attempted it once.
Ah, it appears you have forgotten or have simply Mandela'd in from a different timeline. Allow me to refresh your memory for you in the kindest way possible:
Eragon was a 2006 dance film featuring Jeremy Irons and Ed Speeler on a ship. Some fighting is involved. And I dunno, a dragon maybe.
Similarly, I'm reading through the Lightbringer series by Brent Weeks and I think it would be a great candidate for an adaptation. It's a really good story and the magic is all based on the colour of light which I think would make the special effects pretty easy to create and should also look nice.
I know I recognise the name Brent Weeks, and I know I remember a magic system based around colour. Does that book start with someone who brings his cloak to life with colour magic? And as you get more magically powerful, you can see more and richer colours?
The Iliad. Not a "take" or an "adaptation" or a "re-imagining". Just play it straight as it is, cut out some of the monologues and replace the "throwing spears at each other" parts with swordfights.
I want to see the gods descend from Olympus to fight on the battlefield.
The Long Earth by Terry Pratchett and some guy who's name is harder to remember.
An inventor uploads a schematic to the Internet for a cheap, easy-to-assemble device that lets anyone (or almost anyone) "step" into parallel earths. A nearly infinite stretch of untamed wilderness sees people abandoning the polluted, crowded, government-run Old Earth in search of new opportunities. The catch: No iron or iron alloys can "step" across, sending these new earths back to the bronze age.
Also: Zeppelins that are also reincarnated Buddhists that are also the first true machine intelligence; robot cats; libertarian communes; sapient nonhuman primates; sapient nonhuman non-primates; radioactive ziggurats; space programs to parallel moons; and grumpy survival chicks.
Sanderson's Mistborn series could make some good film or TV. Honestly they could probably even pull off a whole cosmere MC universesque type thing... Although I think deals keep falling through because the author wants full creative control.
Dragonriders of Pern, by Anne McCaffrey. Currently doing my umpteenth read-through completely accidentally. I wanted to read one of the books then got sucked in. I'm nine books in and read several of them in one sitting, despite having read them all plenty of times.
And while I'm on the subject, I don't think I've ever seen anyone taking about Pern online but I see mentions of Isaac Asimov every few weeks. They're of a similar age and Pern is equally good as Isaac's work, if not better. Grumble grumble...
I'm a lifelong pern fan, but... the immense fear of thread won't come across well on the screen in my opinion. And thread fighting will be hard to make such that it has the same magnitude as it can in your imagination. All in all, thread is over played. It can't be such a harrowing fight in the skies, and still be so devastating if one got through unnoticed. Cause if the fight in the skies was so hard, more would get by, and some would get missed over the years. And that is played off as the end of the world. In your imagination, that can work, but on screen, not so much. That means they would need to make some fundamental change to film it.
You're probably right, but I was trying to say it deserves more recognition. I don't think it would be a good TV show either. And Eragon has put me off all dragon-related adaptations I think!
I would have loved Name of the Wind, but that lazy fuck Rothfuss is going the way of George Reorge Reorge Martin: he's been promising book 3 for a decade and can't finish it.
I would love a true to the book series of World War Z. I’m not even sure anyone involved with that movie read the book. It should be a 3 season HBO series with an episode for each persons vignette. Intros and outros of each episode has the recurring reporter meeting the person and starting his recording as they launch into their narrative of what happened. If you need more episodes, just write additional vignettes. Season 1 is the events that lead up to the outbreak, season 2 is the war itself, season 3 is the aftermath. I’m pretty sure this is what Max Brooks was writing towards. It could be amazing.
Surely you've seen the 100% faithful adaption, "Will Smith Shoots Stuff"?
And apparently Amazon made an adaptation of Foundation, not that I've watched it yet. Not sure if I even want to, part of the charm is how long ago it was written and how crazy some parts of it are
mass effect could be a huge tv and movie franchise but the designs of the aliens would make the effects budgets prohibitively expensive. damn would I love it though.
Typing that comment made me do my semi-annual check for adaptations, and I just saw that announcement came out a couple of weeks ago. Hope it comes along better than the movie that got stuck in development hell.
You wouldn't even have to obsess over the history, alchemy, etc., just don't fuck it up. People get too wrapped around an axle thinking every single infodump has to be there. Stephenson's got issues (coughendingscough), but the stories are informed by the same research as the infodumps, and they'll hold up well.
Yeah, it certainly doesn't hold up as well as the "origin" story, but silly though it was I liked the last part of Seveneves. It could definitely work as an animation.
FALL could as well, or at least kind of a Tron-like thing.
You ask as if that was a good thing. Like an honor for a book. But I way too often find myself defending books with "It's nothing like the movie. Don't juge it by the awful movie."
Especially fantasy adaptions are regularly awful and damaging for the books.
Examples: The Dark Tower, Eragon, Percy Jackson, The Giver, Inkheart.
Netflix's Persuasion, The Beach to name a couple of non fantasy as well.
So I'd rather they leave the books alone and make original stories into movies.
After the Dark Tower movie came out, I heard a whole bunch of people on the internet saying that the movie was awful and the books are so much better. I didn’t see the movie, but if the books are so well-liked I thought I’d give them a try.
I tried my best, I really did. But I just couldn’t finish the first book. It was just way too surreal and abstract for me.
You are not alone in this. The first book is awful. It made me doubt my english reading comprehension. Everybody hates it.
It's unfortunate, that such a great series starts off with the worst book, not only of the series, but imo of all of Kings books.
Somehow the real story starts (for me) with the second book. The first is more of a world introduction, a world building tool. And otherwise quite irrelevant.
I urge you, to give the second book (The drawing of the three) a chance. You won't regret it, because if you disregard the first book, the series is fantastic.
Try reading it alongside the podcast the KingSlingers. The podcast is set up where they read a couple chapters at a time, then spend a 2 hours talking about those chapters. One person read the series multiple times and the other is just reading it for the first time.
I'm halfway through the series, and now I want them to break down and discuss every book I read.
You said it better than i ever could. Starting at Jurassic Park, and going all the way to The Wheel of Time, just keep Hollywood away from my literature!
Any Batman story that focuses more on how he's mainly a detective and only breaks out the concussion gloves if he's attacked or there's literally no other way to resolve the situation at hand?
Society thinks he's The Punisher in a funny hat because of those damned nolanverse films.
He was supposed to do some detective work in The Batman movie, right? It's been awhile since I've seen it, though, so I don't remember how much they fulfilled that promise.
What's your ideal cast lineup? I want this live action so bad but it would have to be a mini series to get all of it in, and then can never think of anyone who could bring the Judge to life.
Because a huge chunk of the story is wandering the gorgeous, but empty desert with a bunch of psycho killers. Occasionally that group commits grisly large scale harvesting of passable scalps to sell off to bigger towns with a scalp trade. Sometimes one of them, usually the judge, will commit a little extra horrific crime against humanity as a treat for themselves. The "good guy" isn't exactly someone to root for either. It's a story with muddy, dark morals and an ending that'll bum out a lot of folks. No happy days here.
I loved the story and would watch a well done movie about it. I highly doubt that'll happen. To do it right is to include almost all of the horror of what these people are, which would be a lot of money on effects that will anger a ton of people due to what they portray. It's not that it's unadaptable. It's that it would be a slow burn movie with brief, hyper violent hollowing out of small villages including baby smashing.
It's slow, mean, and ends in a way that'll have you stare off into space feeling a little bad about the nature of humanity. Not a very profitable idea for a movie.
That movie had very little to do with the actual story aside from a few references. And without Eddie, Susannah, and a well-danced Commala I’ll never be satisfied.
One of my favorite books is called Inherit the Stars.
Mankind is starting to reach out into the solar system, but finds a man on the moon entombed in a space suit, and he's been dead for 50,000 years.
It'd make a pretty good movie, 2 hours tops.
It does one of my favorite things, by strongly blending two genres: mystery, and sci-fi. A sci-fi show, movie, or book that's purely sci-fi is rarely good. Same goes for fantasy. Season 1 of Game of Thrones is good because it's primarily a mystery/drama story in a fantasy setting. A New Hope is great because it's a western, coming-of-age story in a sci-fi setting. Rebel Moon is garbage (for many reasons) because it's pure sci-fi schlock with no nuance.
Take as long as you feel like, and try not to focus on "getting through" the book. On my first read, I was lucky enough to feel like I couldn't put it down. I tried a second time years later and didn't get very far, I think because I was focused on finishing it.
Something from Iain M. Banks The Culture. The best books, like Excession would probably be hard to adapt due to the protagonists being mostly ships, but others like Consider Phlebas or The Player of Games could probably make great films or miniseries (and Use of Weapons would probably be great as the later).
Probably excessively expensive in the CGI department if done well, but one can dream.
Lot of good ones in here. Only idea I can think of is The Black Company. Not specifically to follow Croakers story either. Could be about battles and drama of the past from the annals.
Goblin and One-Eye would be fucking awesome as the main characters, or Raven. Hell even a story about how the Silver Spike came to be would be a good movie.
No fuck that Croaker is the bad ass mofo and his story should be the first movie. Make it an unknown actor who can be humble but also a bad mofo who everyone is like JFC dude!
If you did a TV series it could be like True Detective. Each season being a different timeframe. The Taken being the few reoccurring characters. But even then a character like Shifter could be portrayed by multiple actors.
5 May 1945
Troops of the 23rd Tank Battalion of the 12th Armored Division of the US XXI Corps led by Lieut. John C. "Jack" Lee, Jr., a number of Wehrmacht soldiers led by Major Josef "Sepp" Gangl, SS-Hauptsturmführer Kurt-Siegfried Schrader, and recently freed French prisoners of war defended Castle Itter against an attacking force from the 17th SS Panzergrenadier Division until relief from the American 142nd Infantry Regiment of the 36th Division of XXI Corps arrived.
US and Germans (with some French celebrity prisoners) fight other Germans. My favorite part of this battle is when the French superstar Tennis player vaults a castle wall and runs through enemy lines to ask for reinforcements.
Based on Honor Among Thieves there simply isn't enough of an audience. Dragonlance does a better job of hiding the dice but I don't think high fantasy can get away with not having boobs and murder everywhere.
A good version of “Riverworld” by Philip Jose Farmer would be awesome. “Borne” or “The Strange Bird” by Jeff Vandermeer. “Dance, Dance, Dance” by Murakmi. The Maddaddam Trilogy by Atwood.
As a deep cut, “The Woman in the Dunes” by Kobo Abe. Totally surreal.
Although I love the books, I'd never want to see them as a film. I expect it would be so gory it would take away from the story. Kind of how Game of Thrones was just so focused on boobs that it was honestly embarrassing to watch sometimes.
Dresden files not popular among these parts or how come nobody's mentioned it yet?
It has technically already been adapted, but it was a stupid procedural cop show with a twist rather than what it should be. If you want a more formulaic thing, just copy Amazon's Reacher.
Plus, since it's an urban fantasy, it should be cheaper to make than most other fantasy/sci-fi shows, I think.
Yes! I came here to see if anyone had mentioned this. My favorite fantasy series when I was a teenager. I also wouldn't mind his Incarnations of Immortality series turned into a show either, but Amber would work better due to the humor and settings
I thought it was pretty terrible tbh, and I read history books for fun. I think that was my problem with it tbh, I just kept looking at the timelines and going "no, bullshit, the kingdom would have been bankrupted by a five hundred year war, and how tf are elves replacing their combat losses?"
Remove most of the muscle porn from it, which wouldn't be hard since the main characters are all essentially superheroes, and the entirety of The Deathworlders, the canon parts of Salvage, The Xiu Chang Saga, and Humans Dont Make Good Pets.
The Jenkinsverse has a ton of potential there.
ETA: also a documentary narrated by David Attenborough, based on Alice in Sunderland.
Yeah, I don't trust them not to ruin everything. Disney fucked up Star Wars for fucks sake. If there was ever a sure thing it was that and they somehow managed to make half their shows terrible.
The Devil in the White City - would love to see the Chicago Worlds Fair brought to life in all it's splendor, and to be directly contrasted with the horror that was HH Holmes murder castle. The book brought that history to life so vividly, and I feel like mini series with great casting would do incredibly well.
The 7 1/2 Deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle - mysteries and whodunnits are popular again (thank god) and this one has such an interesting premise. When I first read it I was convinced it would be a great video game. But a movie would also be a hit.
Something Wicked this way Comes - not sure if this has ever been adapted, but I've never seen it. The book is so atmospheric and has such a rich cast of characters. We haven't had a movie that really celebrates the moodiness of autumn in a while.
I guess its kinda fringe but the Vorkosigan Saga by Lois McMaster Bujold. Either the parents or little admiral would be pretty good if she is involved in the writing. Or, one of her other books. Great writer.
Clancy Brown as Morgan
Ray Wise as Nicodemus
Mia Goth as Aurora
Naveen Andrews as The Gatekeeper
Young Ray Wise as Marcone (just let me have this lmao)
The bone comic book series by Jeff Smith completely deserves a movie or show or something.
The series is like Tolkien + Disney +metaphysics and is aimed at a younger audience but has enough deep ideas to keep adults actively interested.
It has a rich history of the 90s-00s comic book era as well as some history in acholastic book fairs as well as some early internet meme culture contribution.
It was solely owned by one dude who eventually got some help from someone who added color to the series that really made it a next level up.
If anyone decides to read it from my comment here, check out the omnibus version and if you can find a 20th anniversary version, that has some nice history and behind the scenes type stuff included.
There was a Netflix series that was in the works for like a year or so until Netflix decided to cancel it, so it already has some kind of an interest that I hope keeps building up and eventually makes someone do something about this forgotten gem.
Here's a explainer video about bone
Bone comic series explainer video
I've been listening to Pushing Ice by Alastair Reynolds thanks to a recommendation I saw here on Lemmy. This is one that I'd like to see a movie or series adaptation.
The Bobiverse would be a fun series I think as well.
Camp Damascus by Chuck Tingle. I was expecting a trashy slasher with some queer elements and an autistic protagonist, what I got was a good supernatural thriller with some queer elements and a very believable autistic protagonist - I would genuinely recommend it.
The writing is the weakest part, it feels very kind of pedestrian, like "here's some words explaining what's happening" rather than being artistic or beautiful or evocative but it's good enough for the story and characters to come through, and they're great. So remove the writing quality from the equation and it could be absolutely excellent
I mentioned Daemon and FreedomTM by Daniel Suarez in another thread recently. I've often thought they'd make good Techno Thrillers. They got optioned once but I think it expired.
I think part of the problem is that the second book is a conclusion to the first. One falls flat without the other. So I think they'd be best suited to a single mini-series of 6 or 8 hour long episodes. And studios want franchises.
The Aubrey/Maturin series by Patrick O'Brian - yes, I know there's been a movie (Master & Commander with Russel Crowe and Paul Bettany) but the series is much richer and deeper than any single movie could be.
Also, Robin Hobb's Realm of the Elderlings series. Concentrate on the Fitz storyline, maybe give the Liveship series a miss.
The Sword of Truth series. My favorite series of all time. It had an attempt at a show, but I refuse to accept it. They took a story that's 10x more adult than Game of Thrones and made a CW show that had events from the 5th book in episode one.
No hate, but you’re the first person I’ve heard say it was their favourite. I enjoyed the first few books, but dude went off the deep end in later books. Became damn near unreadable for me. And I think majority of readers have similar views. I doubt any attempt would survive the hate and t would receive.
That's fair, I get it's not for everyone but I truly did enjoy it and the little book club my with my friends liked it. Granted I like those types of worlds. Mistborn, Wheel of Time, etc. But book 5 was by far my favorite entry, I've reread it by itself. I'm honestly curious what you started to dislike about them, just to understand that take on em, if you're willing to take the time.
No offense taken if it's not for you, or hell even most people, but man I would love to see it done justice in cinema, I just see so much potential there.
I'd like to see Ian McDonald's River of Gods or The Dervish House made into a 10ep series. They're both fantastic cyberpunk books and would make excellent TV.
Also, absolute long shot here but I'd love to see Iain Banks' The Culture series adapted for premium streaming with a Foundation series budget.
Occult and esoteric books in general, such as "The Kybalion" (Hermeticism), "The Book of the Dead" (Egyptian), "Liber AL vel Legis" (by Aleister Crowley, Thelema), as well as grimoires (such as the "Book of Saint Cyprian"). While there are tons of movies and TV Series that directly adapts biblical stories, I feel that there are so few (if there's any) cinematographic works adapting esoteric, occult, pagan books (from belief systems such as Gnosticism, Wicca, Rosicrucianism, Hermeticism, Luciferianism, Thelema, Goëtia, and so on). I even tried to ask AIs to list movies and TV series adapting such books, and every single listed movie (such as The Matrix) is not a direct adaptation. They don't even mention these books (in best cases, The Matrix merely alludes to hermetic principles such as "the Universe is Mental" (i.e. the scene between Neo and the kid that says that "the spoon doesn't exist").
LOL IDK how you would do the first book or even touch on that part of the books (because it makes them very very hard to suggest let alone reread) but once you got to the singularity bomb at the science space station deep in a dense asteroid field.... I wanna see that part. The emotions that the story creates in the characters is pretty primal and believable. Its an interesting story how each of the main characters goes through the same level of violation but in different ways
Zero. It totally destroys everything about a book. I have found though that horrible series can make good TV. Like Twilight or Dexter or Harry Potter. Horribly written trash but popular with those in the center of the bell curve.
In my opinion, the book is almost alway "better" but they're different. A show or movie can be more entertaining for the unit of time you spend on it, but you'll be reading a lot longer. It can also introduce new people to great books. For example, how many people read the Game of Thrones series after the show started?
Movies/shows can be great, especially for well written stories. They have to be different than the books, because they have less time and actually have to re-create what the book only has to describe. They are a good part of the entertainment ecosystem, and even if the book is better. Alternative versions existing do not harm the book. They can exist together.
There already has been a movie (L.A. Confidential), which is one of my favourite movies of all time. But to get it on the screen required a lot of rewriting to fit a complex weave of plots that intersect and takes 10 years to resolve. It was brilliantly done for what it was, but it left a LOT on the floor.
I would love love love to see an HBO or similar series that is as true to the novel by James Ellroy as it could possibly be.
There's a book called Robopocalypse where an AI gains sentience and then takes control of basically all robotics/anything connected to the internet to take over the world and I'd love to see that as a mini series.
“Foundation” is on Apple TV+ and the second season is or was about to drop!
According to those that read the book(s) it’s either utter trash or a decent adaptation of a rather nebulous story.
I’ve not read the books. The series is very well done! It’s a compelling story with good characters, and Lee Pace is in top form (both acting and nude)!
The first book was a self contained story, could make a movie, or mini-series if you must. There are a series of sequels and prequels that could do the same.
This story portrays the effects of the most terrifying natural calamity I have ever encountered in fiction: Earth being ejected from the solar system. In any other disaster there's still hope because even though humanity might die out, life on Earth would eventually recover. Not so in this case. Without the Sun we're fucked. Even the air freezes (hence the title).
Discworld work make an incredible series of movies. I think D&D Honor Amongst Theives proves that modern comedy fantasies can work great in a movie format.
When I heard about the Netflix movie I initially thought it was an adaptation of the book...
At this point, I want a movie adaptation just out of spite to see how much better it would be than the complete trash that netflix thought would make a good original story.
I do highly recommend the book, too.
I've actually never read it, but it seems pretty popular. I see a lot of people doing cosplays of it. To my knowledge it seems like one of the few books without any non-print adaptation that gets cosplayers. But that could just be because it's very recognizable lol.
The Grand Tour novels from Ben Bova. All about mankinds spread into the solar system. There are some anachronisms here and there that would need to be ironed out, and plenty of continuity errors to fix, but overall a very exciting series of stories.
Slightly off topic, but the latest episode of the What Went Wrong podcast is about the adaptation of American Psycho from novel to film and I'm quite enjoying it.
Mountain Man: 10 Books by Keith C. Blackmore. Basically, the Zombie Apocalypse happens and a Dude tries to survive alone, physically, mentally and emotionally while also trying to go on supply runs, running into Zombies and generally trying to stay alive while coping with everything. I think it would be good to have some other zombie-related Series that isn't The Walking Dead.
Expeditionary Force: 18 Books by Craig Alanson. Earth and Humanity are attacked by Hamster Aliens, another alien Race, Lizards, who attack the hamsters saving Earth in the process and then recruiting Humanity into a war on a galactic scale but the Hamsters aren't the real enemy of Humanity. I'm only at the end of the 5th Audiobook but they are great and I would really wish Skippy is voiced by the Audiobook Narrator R.C. Bray in a TV adaption.
Kyralia series: Been a while since I read it but a fantastic series related to magic By Trudi Canavan, I think there are just not enough good Magic-related Shows.
Tales of the Otori: A 5-Book Series by Lian Hearn is set in a fictional feudal Japan. The Main story follows a Boy, Takeo, through his life to avenge his adoptive father and escape the legacy of his biological father. Probably the only series in which I had to put down the book at one point and just had to process what was happening.
I have a vision that I think would be really cool for this type of adaptation but the only one I really care about is way too good to just put it up on the internet so that my idea can get stolen without credit.
I don't think this is impossible to adapt. I don't even think it needs a huge budget. If you could nail the cinematography; be comfortable with long sections w/o dialogue; and resist the urge to re-work the pacing you could have something. Think Barry Lindon(1975) but as an ultra-violent Western.
The Cohen bros. proved that McCarthy can be adapted in this way. Think of the opening scene of "No Country For Old Men"(2007).