Disclaimer: I've never sat down to watch either, but if the choices are "turn left" or "winding, twisting course" I think I'm going with the one that has more variety.
It's more of an engineering sport than a driving sport. Don't get me wrong– the drivers are absolutely top notch and do an incredible job and it's entertaining to watch. But since it's sooooo engineering and development based, you cars that perform different on different tracks (cuz of elevation, temperature, track design, surface).
It's the difference between a marathon and an obstacle course.
Nascar has some really crazy shit, like building a twisted car to turn left, canting the engines to perform better in turns, making the car as flat as possible on the right to get better aero when up against the wall. They do some wild stuff with the cars, and stretching the rules or "cheating" was, and probably is, a huge part of the sport.
When it comes to the racing itself, the track layout is usually designed with top sustained speed in mind, which means that a lot of the driver's finishing position is determined by their ability to battle it out with the other drivers, instead of their ability to optimize the course. Not to mention, that simple "left turn" is deceptively complex. Drivers account for track conditions, like foreign debris, rubber "marbles", bank angle, and temperature, atmospheric conditions like air density, car conditions like damage, fuel, tire wear and tire temp, and race conditions like remaining laps, position and proximity to other drivers, when they make that "simple left". Throw in make-or-break pitstops, where the car gets fuel, tires and repairs in less than 10 seconds, and the fact that almost all of this is happening at 170+ MPH, and you realize that oval racing isn't just a bunch of hilljacks turning left, but a modern gladiator-style chariot race.
If I had to choose a race to be eliminated to get the alien tech, I'd go with potato sack. Some people might miss it, but I feel like it's time to let that one go.
I agree. The three legged race is too much of a classic. The feeling of flow state when you and your partner get moving quick is too good. Sack races never feel fun. Just painful.
Well it might make perfect sense from their perspective, there might be a million alien species on the galactic council who all agree they don't want to deal with a species that won't purge at least one race.
It's unlikely but possible, we have literally no way of knowing or really guessing anything about how an alien race or empire might think. They might be shocked and confused we don't kill our enemies children, bemused that we ended slavery, disgusted that we don't torture criminals for sport...
An even scarier thought is that we might agree with them in a hundred or thousand years, it seems impossible to imagine but to me it seems impossible to imagine slavery was ever a thing or that they put criminals heads on pikes for everyone to see.
how about the Abu Dhabi Tour? A week-long stage race on the least interesting terrain on the planet. The first stage frequently has a finishing straight that's 60k long.
They will release one episode a month to milk your $99 per month introductory rate. The runtime will be 21 minutes with 39 minutes of ads interspersed.
Reminds me of that Black Mirror episode when people could post names of people they wanted to be killed and every day the most posted person were killed. After some time, the man behind that killed all of the people who voted for anybody.
So in that killer's mind, wanting someone killed was the morally indefensible crime but actually killing ludicrous numbers of people is not? And he nor anyone else questioned that? 🤔
Bit of context and spoilers -
He was making a statement about social media threats/harassment
The first part - using social media - whoever people vote to be killed, gets killed. Trying to show these actions have consequences. The people voting feel immune to these consequences. They just voted, they didn't kill anybody.
He goes through 5 rounds of voting, with more votes every time. After each round, the most voted for is killed.
Up to this point he's exposing people trying to use social media to try and harm people
Eventually he turns it around, and kills everyone who voted
The whole thing kicked off because his friend/romantic interest tried to commit suicide from cyber bullying. He's pushing that these actions have consequences, even if you hide behind a screen.
The killer himself is a psycho, so the morals aren't exactly impactful to him. As for anyone else questioning, the definitely do.
Disclaimer - been a while since I watched the episode. It's pretty good, definitely need some suspension of disbelief (but that's most episodes)
I'm concerned about the amount of people in this post that aren't just saying that None is the correct answer, but are instead trying to come up with a race to pick.
I was once among a group of (fellow) university-educated expats, during a stint living abroad in the 2000s. While we were socializing, somebody asked everyone to say what group of people they would make disappear. (I can't remember if it was kill/erase/nuke/remove from a map that was said, but a couple of variations along those lines.) People's answers that day (and their insistence that I, too, should "jokingly" hate some group of people and want them to die) taught me a lot. On top of that, I also am part of one of the groups that was named (no, I am not mixed race-- it was just ignorance on the guy's part that he not only thought I wasn't part of the group but also that when I made a "joke" of what he said, he thought telling me that I didn't seem like part of that group was supposed to make it better somehow).
It's an option, but if "none" wins then there's no shared knowledge of anything. The question really is, do you prefer to cause genocide but have new tech, or keep old tech with no genocide.
the british and french need to be in equilibrium. if the british are suddenly removed, the french will have no natural predators, and begin to breed uncontrollably
Picking the British or French would probably be ok. We should be able to get a decent breeding program set up in zoos and start releasing them back into the wild within a couple of decades.
Majority white and black would vote for each other
And nothing we didn’t already know would be revealed
Also when an advanced race capable of killing the entire species says “you must” do something then I don’t think it’s racist to vote and I don’t think saying “none” is allowed because it defeats the purpose of the experiment
You really think the majority wouldn't vote for "none", given it's an option?
Even if one were to think practically about it (if we all vote none, they won't share the tech or whatever, for the sake of they hypothetical), wouldn't most people just choose a super small ethnic group?
Like sorry Inuits, hate to say it but y'all shoulda tried imperialism lmao
Based on the way the meme plays off, the only practical way to get the tech would show you value life over technology, hence the option for none, if it's not a consensus for none how could you expect that species to act responsible with the tech and hence the tattooing and leaving.
Right, that's what I was thinking : just try to pick the smallest race. I'm guessing the majority would try to do the same thing. Obviously you have people who hate other races, but I'm hoping that even if 30% have the same idea, maybe it limits casualties.. unless we're all allowed to Google though, I'm guessing most of us have different guesses as to what the smallest race is
Based on the fact they tattoo your answer afterwards, the only way you would have gotten technology is by voting none in a consensus showing you value life over technology, therefore your more likely to be responsible with it, vote on anything other than none and you have voided your ability to be responsible hence no technology. The fact this is not a more common interpretation is honestly disheartening.
Honestly I'm surprised that studios have never bothered filming multiple endings and releasing them all into the theater chain so people would basically go see the same movie multiple times just to catch the different endings, and the studio getting more profits.
I did like that movie. I saw it years ago, but every time I tried to describe it to someone I couldn't think of the name. I can't remember how it ended exactly, but I'll probably throw it on when I go to my brother's place.
We've been catching up with a lot of culture we missed out on due to being stuck in an overly religious household growing up. So we take time each (well most) Sundays to watch something we know Mom would hate. It's therapeutic in a word kind of way.
As there's only one race, I guess everyone who chose anything but none gets the human race symbol (???) tattoed on their face. Still would be fun to see who chose to have other humans killed.
Now, if the OP in 4chan meant ethnicity, that's a different story.
The definition of “race” varies widely between different demographics and contexts. In a biological context which you seem to be insinuating, “race” is either nonsensical or an ancient synonym for species.
I legit question why people should be morally condemned for choosing to have others killed. It's too important a survival mechanism to just dismiss with morality like that, and claiming it's wrong violates the human right to freedom of thought. Humans are allowed to hate each other. They're allowed to want negative things, even to have others killed.
The premise itself is self-defeating because it uses the act of labeling people who make a choice to be targeted for violence and death to defeat the concept of doing so. Its use legitimizes the practice even to criticize it. Humans have to select other people to be targeted for violence because it's ultimately the only effective way to regulate behavior and enforce social norms, and refusing to do so destroys societies.
People need to stop judging others on their thoughts and feelings and start focusing on their actions.
What if, instead of a tattoo, everyone who voted just becomes that race?
The logistics would be tricky. Aside from the fact that race doesn't exist, people within an ethnicity don't all look the same. And would they still have the background of however they were originally born?
I'm willing to bet that the ayylmaos would be smart enough to think of that and make it somehow permanent like nanomachine pigments imbedded in your brain that re-emerges on the skin eventually or smthn
That might be kind of convenient actually - racist assholes of all colours will label themselves and probably kill eachother while (hopefully) most of the population's foreheads will read "None".
I don't think this is likely unless if none is the most voted option none gets killed. But if one always gets killed then there will be lots of campaigning and manipulating for certain votes. And the past years have shown people will fall for it.
Immediately though of one of those races of dog or cow that's been inbred to the point that their existence is torture already. I didn't think of humans.
I guess you don't get any symbol and are now considered as the morally superior group, which will then use it to gain power and proceed to oppress the others.
I guess you don’t get any symbol and are now considered as the morally superior group, which will then use it to gain power and proceed to oppress the others.
Either that, or everyone with symbols would work together and gang up on you for not having a symbol.
First of all, not helpful to any conversation. You just want to announce to everyone your personal issues. Cool. No one cared. Downvotes.
Secondly. There is plenty to hate about 4chan but why curated snippets? It's an old school anonymous forum that is chaos trapped in a site. In all of that is occasionally interesting discussions, art, and insightful looks at the human condition. And racism and horribleness.
It's Like saying you hate corn so you don't drink any juice, don't use gasoline, don't drink vodka or whiskey. It's a lot of things, but here someone has curated a snippet of the chaos they found interesting. It no longer is 4chan but just a piece of something.
If you don't like this idea then sure whatever but it's no more 4chan than this is a text to you.