So what they said way the contract won't let them sell within a year. So they got this recently. There's no way you couldn't know about Musk being a shit this recently, so fuckem, you gave the Nazi money.
A little bit... there's definitely a few people that bought a Swastikar that didn't know it was a nazi car. Generally speaking, those people need to pull their heads out of their asses, and perhaps this will serve as a catalyst.
On one hand cybertruck is a completely unique design and is a delorean of its day - a trash car with unmistakable, unique appearance you buy as an investment. You don't need to be homo for musk to see that this car will jump up in value in 20 years. And people who bought it as an investment are super happy, propably even behind the " vandalize ct movement" while theirs sits in a garage.
On the other hand even without musk being nazi you are incredebly fucking stupid to buy this terrible car from a terrible company who to this day has not made a single good quality vehicle that is reliable or is built to a standard of the avarage cheap toyota. Or hell, even volkswagen. There were multible chances to cancel your preorder and they still bought it. Even after it was revealed you can't sell it.
This is the chickens coming home to roost and teach you about how to spend your money.
I think another thing to mention is we live in an age of information overload and it seems everyone has or is doing some morally disgusting so the average person can't really keep up with who's done what. I know Elon is pretty much in the headlines nonstop but it's easy to become numb to such things. Like you said the car is unique and people were excited for it. Lots of them now aren't from pre-orders but coming across mildly discounted second hand can be enticing to those who otherwise wouldn't have the opportunity.
Fuck Elon, he can rot in the emerald mine he came from
If you can slap ev conversion into an od jag, you can slap some new batteries into an old ev, especially since enthusiasts will make the conversion kits available
Glad I’m the the only one who remembers the pedo accusations. All because he couldn’t use his sub in that cave 🤣 that was my indicator not trust him. Back then I was genuinely hopeful that Musk would do good. But here we are.
If the plan is valid and covers fire damage, yup. You'd still have to argue with them like any other time you make an insurance claim. Now will insurance companies write or renew Cyber Trucks, I'll assume yes but at higher rates.
Never heard of having to sign a contract like that for a simple vehicle purchase, that is insane. Wonder if they implemented that after the string of "obvious lack of quality assurance testing" type failures popping up on social media
I do feel sorry for Tesla owners - pre 2025. People bought Teslas in good faith believing this company was heralding green, emissions free vehicles. Which it more or less did. They weren't expecting the CEO would out himself as a Nazi even if there were clues he was a terrible piece of shit. Being an asshole is one thing but Musk out-Henry Ford'ed Henry Ford.
So if you're going to discriminate, target >= 2025 owners where this is common knowledge, not those before. That said, the Cybertruck is and was a fucking terrible vehicle and deserves criticism on its own awfulness outside of any political dimension.
I mostly agree, but I'd set the cutoff date sometime around 2023, maybe up until 2024 for someone completely checked out of the Internet and/or Elon's bullshit. It's part of why the CT is targeted so much in this way, but not the model 3 or S. There are a lot of people who just wanted an electric vehicle when Tesla looked like one of the more compelling options (mostly due to marketing than actual features/reliability but what can you do about that in hindsight).
Well more like pre-2022, back when it was still somewhat hopeful that the cars weren't badly made and the rest of the car market is not rapidly pulling away from Tesla since they have actual QA and actual R&D and stuff. Which was expected to happen anyways, Tesla was struggling to actually build actual cars in any year after all.
But ignoring the technical side for a moment, past ~early 2024 any newly bought Tesla just loudly heralds that you like supporting Nazi Boi.
Bought the car just to get attention and you're getting the attention. I don't see the problem. You got exactly what you wanted. It's a fuck ugly car that's shit quality. You bought it just because you wanted to be noticed. Well, play dumb games, win dumb prizes.
I have sympathy for those with older Tesla's, they were the most popular EV on the market, and Musk was mask on back then. Not cyber truck owners, though, he'd long since shown his true colors by the time it released.
If I was buying something, literally anything, and the people I am buying from make me sign a thing that said I couldn't sell the thing I am buying for X period of time after buying it, that would be a major red flag to me that perhaps this product is actually a huge piece of shit because they're already worried I will try to get rid of it within X amount of time.
Yeah honestly I wish more products had laws like this. Or, actually, the rule should be you can't sell it at a higher price within a certain time frame, because that's a better indicator of scalping.
I've been wanting to buy one of the B580 GPU's intel released, but as soon as there's stock it immediately gets bought out and resold on amazon at a 150$ markup. I can't think of any other rule that would effectively stop this behavior.
It would have been nice if they had done that with PS5s or concert tickets. It's less about being forced to keep a crappy item and more about not artificially inflating prices on it (by buying out the stock and reselling).
That argument would make sense if anybody was actually scalping swasticars, but they’re currently piling up and rusting away unsold. They really put the cart before the horse.
Yeah but consistently sabotaging Cybertrucks is a start. It happens fairly steadily, you can't leave Cybertrucks out in most areas for long.
To be fair, the CT deserves to be written on, tires slashed, sprayed and whatever anyways, but being a more hummery Hummer already, nevermind what a terrible car it is in general. Anyone who bought one basically accepts they'll be the target of shit like this constantly, and they explicitly bought into it.
Given how many issues it has had so far, doesn't that place it on the opposite side of the spectrum from the Hilux? Isn't this akin to submitting a tiny, rotten tomato into a worlds biggest vegetable competition?
Sorry, no sympathy. I have some sympathy for the Tesla owners who bought theirs years ago before Musk went completely mask off. But Musk has been an overt Nazi since the first cybertruck was released. Do you know what you call an Apartheid baby that platforms and massively promotes Nazis in the name of "free speech" while censoring other voices (see 'cis' as a slur). You call them a Nazi. Musk has been dealing in overt racism, malignant transphobia, and eugenics for years now. If you simply didn't care about this, and still gave that many $100k of your money? I'm sorry, but you just gave $100k to a man you knew was a Nazi. You're a literal Nazi sympathizer. Or, at best, you're a person who cares so little about fighting Nazis that you will willingly give the nation's most prominent Nazi a hundred grand.
So yes, it is absolutely is fair to judge people who bought a cybertruck. They're Nazi sympathizers. I don't know if I would personally engage in such vandalism. But if I was on a jury with such a case before me, I would certainly be practicing jury nullification. Some paint or flat tires is a fraction of what a car like that deserves. That thing should be burned to ashes. That is what should really be done to Nazi symbols like the cybertruck. Here in 2025, if you are driving a cybertruck. There is no way for you to have that vehicle without having every chance in the world to see buying it directly supports Nazis. Every cybertruck is already a rolling swastika.
99% of these bozos bought the thing based on identity. Statistically the CT is proving to be one of the worst put together EV's in automotive history.
Silicon Valley and the techbros have been playing supremacy games for 25 years. So what if just now the hammer drops.
They played sycophant, and didn't want to hear the left's warnings.
That last part is so dumb. How on earth do you not realize you are buying into a scam pyramid scheme type thing with something like that in the contract.
Having bad taste in vehicles and too much money to spend on stupid things doesn't really warrant destruction of property. Being mostly unaware of the political statements of a CEO (which, at the time of the Cybertruck's release or when people were ordering it he wasn't nearly as deep into this crap as he is now) isn't really a crime either...
From a purely legal perspective, I'm curious if the contract would hold up in court, considering there is a concerted campaign of vandalism against the cars.
I'm doing research on stainless steel art - what would you say is the most effective house appliance for staining it? Particularly the same stainless steel the swasticar is using.
Even forgetting the Nazism and Musk, those things should be vandalized for being offensive to my fucking eyes. For being a bad product. For being a dangerous product.
Vandalism is not assault, and while buying a swasticar isn't a crime per se I certainly wouldn't call the people who bought them innocent. It was never even a good truck. There's literally no reason to buy one of these things other than to force other people to witness how much of a chode you are.
I feel sorry for the people who bought a cybertruck ignorantly without knowing anything about Elon Musk. However, how would that be possible in this day and age?
I do, if the guy bought his shitup truck before it was widely known that Musk was a nazi ballroot. If they bought it in the last year or two, then I don't really mind that much. I wouldn't vandalise someone's property myself, but I won't be losing much sleep over it.
The Cybertruck in particular is very much a Musk Mobile, it's linked quite closely to his public persona and buying one is you telling the world that you admire and want to emulate Musk in some way, or at least be a part of the Musk Fan Club. It would be like if Hitler signed off on a fancy Führer Ford Focus, then cunts started buying it and showing it off. No shits to give for vandalisation in that case.
But this is specifically about flaming it as a Nazi vehicle. Cybertrucks were on the street before he started interfering with elections and heil'ing in conferences. Unless I missed the part where the post said they got they Swastikar in the last 3 months, this is attacking someone with too much money who may or may not have spent it on a joke they could drive.
I think the moment CT became available it was very clear who Phony Stark is. Maybe he didn't do the Nazi salute at the time, but everything else was still valid.
Do I feel bad they bought a shit car with shit terms? No. He should have been smarter.
Do I feel bad people are targeting his car because of something someone else did? Yes.
It's not like he wrapped the car with a bunch of inflammatory imagery like I've seen some have. He's just got his stupid car and people are fucking with it. This doesn't help crash Tesla. It doesn't hurt Tesla at all. It's misdirected.
Got after Tesla charge stations instead. Go after the dealerships. Go after Elon.
It's not like he wrapped the car with a bunch of inflammatory imagery like I've seen some have.
I would argue that the car itself is inflammatory to anyone who believes he's a fascist.
He's just got his stupid car and people are fucking with it.
If goebbels had a car company and you bought a car from him, fully knowing he was a Nazi...... I would probably say there's a pretty high chance you are also a Nazi.
This doesn't help crash Tesla. It doesn't hurt Tesla at all. It's misdirected.
If your car gets trashed every time you take it out because of the public's disdain for its CEO, are you going to buy another?
If goebbels had a car company and you bought a car from him, fully knowing he was a Nazi… I would probably say there’s a pretty high chance you are also a Nazi.
I agree. But many of these CTs were sold well before Musk went all Nazi.
He's been a weirdo for years, but that's somewhat understandable when people get a fuck ton of money. Look at John McAfee.
Yes, trashing Tesla's makes people not want to buy them. I just think trashing the Tesla infrastructure is better.
Please don't go after the charge stations. Other car brands use them, and Teslas use non-Tesla charging stations as well. It's kind of a free for all with chargers.
The other Tesla models, I get many people bought it for its EV properties, like people don't wonder about the views of the CEO of general motors, Toyota etc. in their car purchases. The cybertruck it is very clear that one bought in Musk's specific visions, so it's fairer game.
This is actually a friend's car. I haven't commented on her post because it would be something like "I'm surprised my (model 3) hasn't been vandalized but I wouldn't blame the person who did it".
I wonder how many people actually mean that, and how many people use it to protect their nazimobile from damage. Because he went openly crazy 7 years ago this year as far as I'm concerned. This isn't just a "since he owned Twitter" thing.
Yes, because I don't know anything about them other than they made the mistake of buying a cybertruck. Washable vandalism is fine, but don't do stuff that requires repairs unless you know the person deserves it.
sad ? NOPE! Look at the car to start with, its so ugly and pyramid! Why buy a car with a contract that does not allow you to sell it within a year? He/She knew it, yet he/she bought.
Apparently, it was for the cybertruck to prevent scalping.
I have read somewhere that the contract would require you to first offer your cybertruck back to Tesla for retail price minus a set fee per mile if you sold it within a year.
Tesla could refuse taking it back, at which point you're allowed to sell it on the free market.
this clause has recently been dropped from new contracts.
Tesla has refused to take back Cybertrucks offered to them, because they can't sell their actual production cars.
I don't encourage it, but having some familiarity with what it's like to be minding my own business at a good job only to have Elon swoop in and fuck everything up, I understand.
This is the product of powerlessness. Rich people can come in and fuck up your life at any time. And seeking revenge would be futile. But people still want to do it, so they do the next closest thing.
Let me clear this up for you if it helps. I fully support any and all efforts people took to sabotage anyone related to NSDAP during the 30s and 40s. Both property damage and assassinations.
Powerful rich people kill 1000's of people a day via their direct actions and decisions, this is not promoting murder, it's promoting self defense....and it's about fucking time.
By and large the market for the Tesla cybertruck is going to be people with more money than sense.
Those people I can't really have any sympathy for. My advice to them is to park the truck in your garage and drive literally anything else that you own from what is sure to be a selection of different cars.
For those that purchased a CT at the end of their finances, and could only barely afford to justify it, I feel for them. They can't easily buy something else to drive, and the contract forbids them from selling anytime soon. They put in their orders long before Musk was actively demonstrating how much of a shit head he really is.
These people are just regular folks who wanted a truck, bought the Tesla branded sales pitch, and thought it was a good investment over alternatives like rivian. IMO, they're victims just as much as the government employees that used to work in DEIA departments, and USAID.
Then people are taking out their frustration and causing material harm to those duped by the world's richest man.... Double jeopardy.
None of what Elon did is their fault. People are causing them material harm. You're not hurting Elon with these shenanigans, and you don't know that the person who is suffering is a part of the same club that Elon is. Err on the safe side and leave people's property alone, please.
I don't like Elon, and I don't like Tesla. I have no sympathy for either if they go down in flames. I do, however, feel bad for all those who are being materially harmed by all this horse shit. They didn't ask for this, they just wanted an electric car that goes vroom on batteries.
Edit: seems like a lot of people disagree, that's fair. I want to clarify that the subset of people who own a cybertruck that I have any sympathy for, is a pretty small group.
The fact that some of them have my sympathy, does not, and should not imply that I agree with Elon, support his supporters, or think every person who owns a cybertruck is "good underneath it all". Absolutely not. The vast majority of them are either rich assholes that deserve what they get (eat the rich!) or those that have thoroughly invested into whatever Elon says being the way things should be. In both cases, these are people with no socially redeeming qualities, and 100% deserve what they get. This easily covers 90%+ of owners. The small percentile that went through with their purchase, who are just average Joe's trying to make their way in the world, who thought a battery electric truck is a good idea; those who just happened to land on cybertruck as the result of their decision, and have no horse in this race otherwise... Which again, is a very small number of purchasers, those people I have some sympathy for.
If you disagree with that, then I'll happily hear your opinions on the matter. Please feel free to comment. You're entitled to have an opinion as a free person, and you can express that in whatever way you feel is appropriate.
Leon prominently threw in with the nazis a couple months before the CT started shipping. People so thoroughly ignoring politics and red flags until they themselves are hurt is precisely why we're in this whole mess. Why are you carrying water for them, when of all the people that have been hurt by all this they are among the people who had it best until now and had the clearest warning signs to date?
Not trying to carry water for anyone. I'm just not sure supporting destruction of someone else's property is the move here.
This is just a discussion, and nobody needs to agree with me. Clearly there's plenty of opinions here and mine is one of them. I'm not going to say anyone should agree with me.
For clarity, the subset of cybertruck owners I have any sympathy for is a small group. The most significant argument I have, mostly to myself, is that I don't know who owns what vehicle, so personally, I would not partake in any vandalism because though it's likely that the person who owns the vehicle is by all definitions a shit head, the possibility that they're not is enough for me to refrain for getting involved.
But make no mistake, if I was proof positive that some Elon loving nazibro was the owner of the vehicle, no holds barred. Fuck that guy and the cybertruck he rode in on.
Clearly, many people are convinced that anyone who owns a cybertruck is a nazibro, shithead, who agrees with Elon and his fuckary.
Believe what you want. I believe in realistic freedom, not the "freedom" that's being pedaled by the chronies doing damage in Washington, where their version of freedom strips reproductive Rights away from women. As such, you are and should be free to express your opinion in whatever way you feel. I'll fight anyone who tries to say otherwise.
These aren't commuter cars, or work vehicles, there is no practical reason to own one. They are a status symbol of musks politics. The venn diagram of people who own these and wear maga hats is essentially a single circle. There is a daily growing number of struggling american families who deserve sympathy and almost every one of the folks who paid six figures of disposable income for the opportunity to support musks politics are not victims.
I look at it this way. There are a lot of people being harmed by Musk's actions that didn't choose to put themselves in harm's way. That is not these people. I reserve my sympathy for those that had no hand in getting fucked over by a billionaire. People who either chose to put themselves in harm's way and those that chose to ignore all of the signs that they were putting themselves in harm's way can get in fucking line.
People are so stupid.
I hate musk > I destroy teslas > damaged car leaves in a contract workshop > income for Tesla ergo for musk > costs paid by the insurance company are passed on to all insured persons.
The people selling, manufacturing, and designing these vehicles will take their skills and labor elsewhere. The owners, who have no transferable skills, are stuck holding the empty bag.
I really really really don’t think the intentions of the vandalizers were to personally buttfuck Muskie, they wanted to fuck that the owner! Which they did!