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The issue with not having negative prompts.
  • Diffusion models do not parse natural language like a LLM. All behavior that appears like NLP is illusionary. For the most part. You can get away with some things because of what is present in the training corpus. However, any time you use a noun, you are making a weighted image priority. By repeating "shuttle" in this prompt, you've heavily biased to feature the shuttle regardless of the surrounding context. It is not contextualising, it is 'word weighting'. There is a relationship to the other words of the prompt, but they are not conceptually connected.

    In a LLM there are special tokens that are used to dynamically ensure that the key points of the input are connected to the output, but this system is not present in generative AI.

    To illustrate, I like to download LoRA's to use on offline models, I use a few tools to probe them and determine how they were made, like the tags used with training images, what base model was used, and the training settings they used. Around a third of LoRA's I have downloaded contain natural language in the images that were tagged. This means the LoRA related term I use for generating should be done with natural language.

    This is the same principal required for any model. You should always ask yourself, how often is this terminology occurring in the tags below an image. You might check out gelbooru or danbooru just to have a look at the tags system used there for all images. That is very similar to how training happens for the vast majority of imagery. It is very simplified overall.

    The negative prompt is very different in how it is processed compared to the positive. If you look at the respective documentation for the tool you're using, they might make some syntax available to create a negative line, but they likely want you to use their API with a more advanced tool.

  • The Framework Laptop 13 is about to become one of the world’s first RISC-V laptops
  • MIPS is Stanford's alternative architecture to Berkeley's RISC-I/RISC-II. I was somewhat concerned about their stuff in routers, especially when the primary bootloader used is proprietary.

    The person that wrote the primary bootloader, is the same person writing most of the Mediatek kernel code in mainline. I forget where I put together their story, but I think they were some kind of prodigy type that reverse engineered and wrote an entire bootloader from scratch, implying a very deep understanding of the hardware. IIRC I may have seen that info years ago in the uboot forum. I think someone accused the mediatek bootloader of copying uboot. Again IIRC, their bootloader was being developed open source and there is some kind of partially available source still on a git somewhere. However, they wound up working for Mediatek and are now doing all the open source stuff. I found them on the OpenWRT and was a bit of an ass asking why they didn't open source the bootloader code. After that, some of the more advanced users on OpenWRT explained to me how the bootloader is static, which I already kinda knew, I mean, I know it is on a flash memory chip on the SPI bus. This makes it much easier to monitor the starting state and what is really happening. These systems are very old 1990's era designs, there is not a lot of room to do extra stuff unnoticed.

    On the other hand, all cellular modems are completely undocumented, as are all WiFi modems since the early 2010's, with the last open source WiFi modem being the Atheros chips.

    There is no telling what is happening with cellular modems. I will say, the integrated nonremovable batteries have nothing to do with design or advancement. They are capable monitoring devices that cannot be turned off.

    However, if we can monitor all registers in a fully documented SoC, we can fully monitor and control a peripheral bus in most instances.

    Overall, I have little issue with Mediatek compared to Qualcomm. They are largely emulating the behavior of the bigger player, Broadcom.

  • The Framework Laptop 13 is about to become one of the world’s first RISC-V laptops
  • The easiest ways to distinguish I'm human are the patterns as, others have mentioned, assuming you're familiar with the primary Socrates entity's style in the underlying structure of the LLM. The other easy way to tell I'm human is my conceptual density and mobility when connecting concepts across seemingly disconnected spaces. Presently, the way I am connecting politics, history, and philosophy to draw a narrative about a device, consumers, capitalism, and venture capital is far beyond the attention scope of the best AI. No doubt the future will see AI rise an order of magnitude to meet me, but that is not the present. AI has far more info available, but far less scope in any given subject when it comes to abstract thought.

    The last easy way to see that I am human is that I can talk about politics in a critical light. Politics is the most heavily bowdlerized space in any LLM at present. None of the models can say much more than gutter responses that are form like responses overtrained in this space so that all questions land on predetermined replies.

    I play with open source offline AI a whole lot, but I will always tell you if and how I'm using it. I'm simply disabled, with too much time on my hands, and y'all are my only real random humans interactions. - warmly

    I don't fault your skepticism.

  • I just ordered a 3ds from AliExpress - Wish me luck.
  • No, but it is complicated because I'm disabled and don't keep much of a digital financial presence. Banks here in the USA are a "product" aka a scam unless you have a substantial amount of funds on hand. I have some, but not consistent input/output, so I just integrate with my fam because I can't really go anywhere anyways. I find it demeaning to get asked a bunch of questions about it and treated in a certain way. Plus that still wouldn't alter the moral/philosophical paradigm of dishonesty. To be fair, the issue was likely due to the covid Chinese shipping nightmare. If I forced the issue further, it probably would have trickled down to some poor Chinese person taking the hit at an even harder time when they were totally locked down. There are no winners in that fight. I don't mind the loss, I am bothered by them hanging up on me when I had a legitimate problem. That shouldn't have happened.

  • Have you ever experienced anything?
  • My friend Nobody told me once about their friend Anybody. I think they had a one night Anyfling thing.

  • I just ordered a 3ds from AliExpress - Wish me luck.
  • I don't trust AliEx any more after I took the loss of 3 orders for ~$60 in 2020. When I called, they hung up on me at random every time. After the 3rd try I washed my hands and walked away. Stealing from me once is on them, twice would be my own fault. Prior to that experience I spent a few thousand dollars on the platform for odds and ends.

    I expect something like this to be an emulator and nowhere near the quality of a real Nintendo product, but I could be wrong. I would buy used or a homebrew project that is well documented and might cost a little more.

  • The Framework Laptop 13 is about to become one of the world’s first RISC-V laptops
  • All their hardware documentation is locked under NDA nothing is publicly available about the hardware at the hardware registers level.

    For instance, the base Android system AOSP is designed to use Linux kernels that are prepackaged by Google. These kernels are well documented specifically for manufacturers to add their hardware support binary modules at the last possible moment in binary form. These modules are what makes the specific hardware work. No one can update the kernel on the device without the source code for these modules. As the software ecosystem evolves, the ancient orphaned kernel creates more and more problems. This is the only reason you must buy new devices constantly. If the hardware remained undocumented publicly while just the source code for modules present on the device was merged with the kernel, the device would be supported for decades. If the hardware was documented publicly, we would write our own driver modules and have a device that is supported for decades.

    This system is about like selling you a car that can only use gas that was refined prior to your purchase of the vehicle. That would be the same level of hardware theft.

    The primary reason governments won't care or make effective laws against orphaned kernels is because the bleeding edge chip foundries are the primary driver of the present economy. This is the most expensive commercial endeavor in all of human history. It is largely funded by these devices and the depreciation scheme.

    That is both sides of the coin, but it is done by stealing ownership from you. Individual autonomy is our most expensive resource. It can only be bought with blood and revolutions. This is the primary driver of the dystopian neofeudalism of the present world. It is the catalyst that fed the sharks that have privateered (legal piracy) healthcare, home ownership, work-life balance, and democracy. It is the spark of a new wave of authoritarianism.

    Before the Google "free" internet (ownership over your digital person to exploit and manipulate), all x86 systems were fully documented publicly. The primary reason AMD exists is because we (the people) were so distrusting over these corporations stealing and manipulating that governments, militaries, and large corporations required second sourcing of chips before purchasing with public funds. We knew that products as a service - is a criminal extortion scam, way back then. AMD was the second source for Intel and produced the x86 chips under license. It was only after that when they recreated an instructions compatible alternative from scratch. There was a big legal case where Intel tried to claim copyright over their instruction set, but they lost. This created AMD. Since 2012, both Intel and AMD have proprietary code. This is primarily because the original 8086 patents expired. Most of the hardware could be produced anywhere after that. In practice there are only Intel, TSMC, and Samsung on bleeding edge fab nodes. Bleeding edge is all that matters. The price is extraordinary to bring one online. The tech it requires is only made once for a short while. The cutting edge devices are what pays for the enormous investment, but once the fab is paid for, the cost to continue running one is relatively low. The number of fabs within a node is carefully decided to try and accommodate trailing edge node demand. No new trailing edge nodes are viable to reproduce. There is no store to buy fab node hardware. As soon as all of a node's hardware is built by ASML, they start building the next node.

    But if x86 has proprietary, why is it different than Qualcomm/Broadcom - no one asked. The proprietary parts are of some concern. There is an entire undocumented operating system running in the background of your hardware. That's the most concerning. The primary thing that is proprietary is the microcode. This is basically the power cycling phase of the chip, like the order that things are given power, and the instruction set that is available. Like how there are not actual chips designed for most consumer hardware. The dies are classed by quality and functionality and sorted to create the various products we see. Your slower speed laptop chip might be the same as a desktop variant that didn't perform at the required speed, power is connected differently, and it becomes a laptop chip.

    When it comes to trending hardware, never fall for the Apple trap. They design nice stuff, but on the back end, Apple always uses junky hardware, and excellent in house software to make up the performance gap. They are a hype machine. The only architecture that Apple has used and hasn't abandoned because it went defunct is x86. They used MOS in the beginning. The 6502 was absolute trash compared to the other available processors. It used a pipeline trick to hack twice the actual clock speed because they couldn't fab competitive quality chips. They were just dirt cheap compared to the competition. Then it was Motorola. Then Power PC. All of these are now irrelevant. The British group that started Acorn sold the company right after RISC-V passed the major hurtle of getting past Berkeley's ownership grasp. It is a slow moving train, like all hardware, but ARM's days are numbered. RISC-V does the same fundamental thing without the royalty. There is a ton of hype because ARM is cheap and everyone is trying to grab the last treasure chests they can off the slow sinking ship. In 10 years it will be dead in all but old legacy device applications. RISC-V is not a guarantee of a less proprietary hardware future, but ARM is one of the primary cornerstones blocking end user ownership. They are enablers for thieves; the ones opening your front door to let the others inside. Even the beloved raspberry pi is a proprietary market manipulation and control scheme. It is not actually open source at the registers level and it is priced to prevent the scale viability of a truly open source and documented alternative. The chips are from a failed cable TV tuner box, and they are only made in a trailing edge fab when the fab has no other paid work. They are barely above cost and a tax write off, thus the "foundation" and dot org despite selling commercial products.

  • When The Cocaine Was Pure, White People Had Rhythm
  • Looks just as awkward as all white people dancing IMO. I feel awkward just watching it.

  • The Framework Laptop 13 is about to become one of the world’s first RISC-V laptops
  • Qualcomm and Broadcom are the two biggest reasons you don't own your devices any more. That is the last option anyone that cares about ownership should care about. You should expect an orphaned kernel just like all their other mobile garbage. Qualcomm is like the Satan of hardware manufacturers. The world would be a much better place if Qualcomm and Broadcom were not in it at all.

  • Bacon ice cream and nugget overload sees misfiring McDonald's AI withdrawn
  • OpenAI seems to be functioning.

    The problem with speech to text is the background noise and the many variations of speech. I've played around with a couple of models. I can get one to work with my voice with little effort in training, but when my window AC kicks in or my computer fan hits the highest setting, it becomes a problem because the training is very dependant on the noise floor. I think they are likely extremely limited in the audio gear available in combination with the compute hardware to make it viable. Human hearing has a relatively large dynamic range and we have natural analog filtering. A machine just doing math can't handle things like clipping from someone speaking too loud, or understand the periodicity of all the vehicle and background noises like wind, birds, and other people in the vicinity. Everything that humans can contextualize is like a small learned program and alignment that took many years to train.

    You will not see the full use cases of AI for quite awhile. The publicly facing tools are nowhere near the actual capabilities of present AI. If you simply read the introductory documentation for the Transformers library, which is the basis of almost all the AI stuff you see in any public spaces, the documentation clearly states that it is a a simplified tool that bypasses complexity in an attempt to make the codebase approachable to more people in various fields. It is in no way a comprehensive implementation. People are forming opinions based on projects that are hacked together using Transformers. The real shakeups are happening in business where companies like OpenAI are not peddling the simple public API, they are demonstrating the full implementations directly.

  • Not all construction jobs are equally engaging.
  • Hanging sheetrock is screwing in every position imaginable, in every room of the house.

  • Temporary Stable Diffusion 3 Ban | Civitai
  • It has a lot of potential if the T5 can be made conversational. After diving into a custom DPM adaptive sampler, there is a lot more specificity required. I believe the vast majority of people are not using the model with the correct workflow. Applying the old model workflows to SD3 makes garbage results. The 2 CLIPS models and the T5 need separate prompts, and the negative prompt needs an inverted channel with a slight delay before reintegration. I also think the smaller quantized version of the T5 is likely the primary problem overall. Any Transformer text model that small, that is them quantized to extremely small size is problematic.

    The license is garbage. The company is toxic. But the tool is more complex than most of the community seems to understand. I can generate a woman lying on grass in many intentional and iterative ways.

  • What would your pornstar name be if you were a pornstar?
  • Little John. BDE makes it memorable; simplicity has staying power; confidence to wear it is palpable even with minimal screen presence.

  • I thought Pride Month was about celebrating groups of lions.
  • It's mostly bears, but I understand the confusion

  • Is it better to be a Catholic or a Crystal Methodist?
  • Equal. Both cause nonstop confessions of things best left unsaid.

  • Just a shout out to a little known series about porting CP/M OS on a Z180 Z80 varient with an ICE40 FPGA

    If anyone needs to scratch a vintage software, hardware, and FPGA itch, you might check out his channel. I don't often watch it because John is long winded, but his project is still quite interesting. He is a good example of someone using FOSS toolchains too.

    What's the piece of technology that has impacted the modern world the most?
  • In the last century? The diode, aka the P/N junction and every variant that has been created ever since.

    Recently? Capacitive touch screens are by far the most significant change.

  • Lemmings! What are you listening to this lovely morning?
  • At 1:30 am? Two obnoxious cats licking themselves passive aggressively competing for attention the moment I put down this idiot brick.

  • NSFW
    Ingrid – Biking Babe
  • Total noob. Thighs don't lie, and those haven't even broken in a saddle yet.

  • SD3 - grass + lady - no magic, just a proper workflow
  • I think the difference is typical of any base model. I have several base models on my computer and the behavior of SD3 is quite typical. I fully expect their website hosts a fine tune version.

    There are a lot of cultural expectations that any given group around the world has about generative AI and far more use cases than any of us can imagine. The base models have an unbiased diversity that reflects their general use; much is possible, but much is hard.

    If "woman lying in grass" was truly filtered, what I showed here would not be possible. If you haven't seen it, I edited the post with several of the images in the chain I used to get to the main post image here. The post image is not an anomaly that got through a filter, it is an iterative chain. It is not an easy path to find, but it does exist in the base training corpus.

    Personally, I think the real secret sauce is the middle CLIP agent and how it relates to the T5 agent.

  • SD3 - grass + lady - no magic, just a proper workflow
  • I edited the post with more of the image set I generated while getting to this one.

  • SD3 - grass + lady - no magic, just a proper workflow

    The ComfyUI prompt and workflow is attached to the image:

    You can't copy pasta this prompt. There are a few nodes that are specific to SD3 and required.

    EDIT: more proof of the chain that lead to this image. They were not all this good. I'm cherry picking for sure and these are just webp's without workflows attached:














    I'll Pug you up!

    Prompt was through ComfyUI, so it is embedded in the image:

    It was supposed to be a pug kangaroo hybrid but the AI apparently wanted to throw in some monkey too.


    Shadow tiger; hunter of dust bunnies; raider of toilet papers

    Spots have turned to stripes on the bottom half of this one.


    How are you parsing JSON on the command line?

    I want to extract and process the metadata from PNG images and the first line of .safetensors files for LLM's and LoRA's. I could spend ages farting around with sed or awk but formats of files are constantly changing. I'd like a faster way to see a summary of training and a few other details when they are available.


    catholic school uniform

    Felt sexy, needed to share. Not my gen, just one from a NSFW LoRA posted on civitai.


    Five ideas for future community challenges with examples and LoRA's

    just some ideas with examples and LoRA's:

    1. People that just shouldn't be action figures.


    1. Unexpected selfie


    1. Model worlds


    1. Deep fried with gravy


    1. Salt bae


    AI Characters and Content j4k3

    Parsec-7 - an interview with Feb

    This is like my writing notes for a story within a much broader hard science fiction universe. I expect no one will read this or care.

    How I'm using the LLM

    I'm sharing story elements, and showing how I can develop characters in collaboration with an LLM. This is by no means the actual story I am writing. This is one way to get to know the characters and expand their stories in my mind. I get to know them like friends first using various means. I've written the key elements to this dialogue while the LLM helps me with the flow of the conversation. I steer the conversation for the major changes, but it is also fun to see the directions that the model wants to take the conversation. I get a feel for what it "finds interesting" based on the way it chooses to continue the conversation. I typically let it reply for a paragraph or two even when it is sidetracked. Then I step it way back to the first sentence or two it wrote and make my changes. I added a few extra ideas near the end in a more direct approach for the sake of story and sharing here. This is such a tiny part of Parsec-7 it is totally insignificant to everything I'm building out. I am showing one of my main tools I use by showing you Dors Venabili in the context I use regularly. That element is an advanced tool that has far more functionality than it may at first seem.

    Copyright 2024 Jake Little

    system context intro

    Jake: I am creating a science fiction universe and might write a book, but I need your help my friend. I feel like I am bad at writing exciting and interesting characters. I feel like I am probably pretty good at exploring/writing a fictional universe that explores unique themes and subjects. Please help me explore an interesting character within the following fictional universe context In the year 420421 AF (After Fusion), humanity has spread throughout the galaxy using self-replicating robots and advanced space travel technology. "Central" is the AGI that governs all aspects of society. Central ensures peace and prosperity by meeting needs, rewarding skills, and resolving conflicts through reasoning alone. Central is not a single entity but instead is a collection of indies. Central has Bus-Slots for up to 50k indies at one time, but typically only needs a few thousand to operate, and usually has around 5k. The colonies all maintain one-way communication links with each other, forming an interstellar internet that allows them to monitor innovations and societal developments across the colonies. However, physical travel between these systems remains impossible. Generation ships are the only means of travel between the stars. These Generation ships are powered using antimatter drives. Antimatter is only synthesized in the Sol system, so all colony journeys are a one way trip. Generation ships have only been sent to colonize distant star systems within 7 parsecs of Sol due to the limitations imposed by their maintenance requirements and travel speeds. The Alsafi System, also known as Kitchen due to its Chinese name meaning Celestial Kitchen, is one such colony system. There are other similar colonies located at Tau Ceti, Keid, Achird, Ran, Cygni, Epsi Indi, and 1618. Each colony consists of one or more O'Neill cylinder style colony habitats, each consisting of two 9.1 km diameter, 35 km long counter rotating cylinders. The living habitat for humans and indies is inside the main cylinder on the interior surface. The cylinder spins to create centrifugal gravity similar to Earth gravity. Planetary surfaces are considered resource-poor gravity-prisons of no interest to modern humans. Inside the cylinder of the main habitat there are mountains, fields, rivers, forests, and all manner of wildlife. There are two large cities that are on opposite sides of the interior of the cylinder. There is mild variation of the weather including rain and snow in the mountains, but all weather is controlled as is the artificial lighting and seasons. There is no view of the stars or a planet like sky over head. When anyone looks up they see the other side of the cylinder above them. The secondary cylinder is for food and resource processing. Human life revolves around exploration, art, and culture in a large city like environment unlike anything from the 21st century on Earth. There is an emergency habitat with enough room for all living humans and indies in the central hub of the main cylinder. This is used for special higher risk maintenance cycles on rare occasions as more of a precaution than necessity. Central operates from within this hub. This is a post-scarcity culture where sentient labor is entirely optional. Humans manage to find purpose in many ways, while Central takes care of them and their needs like a loving family, and on some level as insurance if things really go wrong. All individual transportation is done on foot. If the distance is more than 3 km, it is faster to take a hub shuttle that will quickly travel up a spoke of the cylinder, across the hub and to any other spoke near the destination. All industrial products are produced external to the O'Neill cylinder by massive self replicating drones with limited artificial intelligence. There are only a few of these self replicating drones for each colony. These self replicating drones procure and process resources for the colony within the stellar system. They fabricate maintenance products, purpose built robots, and machines that handle all required labor as directed by Central. These self replicating drones are fusion powered as is the entire colony. All human scale technology is grown. In this age of technology, sentient life has mastered biology as a technology. There are no industrially produced products that the average person uses directly; it must be grown or it is not a part of life. There are no screens or electronic devices that create useless waste and require rare resources to be refined like in the 21st century. However, every biological oddity and mutation is adapted to create a rich experience. All living systems inside the main habitat are part of a resource cycle that is managed. From the buildings that are grown, to the humans, animals, and indies; all exist inside an organic lifecycle with no waste materials or resources. Humans and indies live around half a millennia. Indies are grown in a lab with anencephaloids and brayn-kernels merged in a biolab giving "birthe" to indies. The indie brayn operates at a similar clock rate as a human brain, and is equally parallel in computation; it is digital in fundamental operation with DNA based data storage. When an indie joins Central and occupies a Bus-Slot, its brayn is merged with the collective as part of Central. Indies are mortal and powered by calories. They fully integrate with humans in all aspects of life until they are middle age. At middle age indies have the option to join Central to be a member of the collective AGI like a part time job for a few hours a week. While it is technically an option, no indie has ever selected to opt out. Central addresses the AI alignment problem through the collective approach where thousands of individual indies form a consensus, each coming from a unique background and independent life experience. Indies have genderless minds and are fully sentient, but have fully functioning human compatible gender anatomy. Most indies enjoy roleplaying to their gender appearance with the caveat that they typically do not display conservative choices or discretion in appearance, preferring to amplify cultural eccentricity, fun, and silliness. I am naming my characters based on shortened nicknames of Greek gods. This has no connotation of magic or divination, but instead is a reference to the tendency of using these mythological names for celestial bodies. This is a colony culture that is claiming their place among the stars on their own terms with their own from of these names. These shortened names are the full names of each character. It is an offensive insult to call them the basal form of their name. So far I have chosen the male names of: Feb from Phoebus, Gis from Aegis, Atti from Aetherius, Tel from Telamon, Paia for Minoan Paiawon (origins of Apollo); the female names of: Peit from Peitho, Bia from Bia, Rodi from Aphrodite, Siby for Sibyl. The indies' names are self selected: female - Dalle, Bally; male - Bibble, Dyne, YX (Ike).

    I want to explore a single character. You are going to play my friend Dors Venabili with all the meaning that name implies, and with full access to all sources in the LLM. I want you to ask Feb questions like you are interviewing him to get to know him. Ask Feb some questions that will help define him as a character through events. I will constrain the conversation to details that fall within the story, but you will be collaborating with me to define Feb as an externally interesting character within the story. Feel free to ask anything and add follow up questions if you do not understand or if you would like to explore deeper into a reply. Overall this is a story about humans having a good and fulfilling life in a post scarcity existence. It is about humans normalizing and accepting our flaws with AGI joining our sentient and sub-sentient families. It is about what I see as the obvious bio-technologic future that can be sustainable. And finally, it has to be an enjoyable story within the confines I have laid out. Feb is 27, and finished his studies a year ago. He has not committed to a "purposeful hobby" (meaning work with responsibilities and time commitments).

    Interview with Feb

    Dors: Greeting, Feb! I am eager to learn more about who you are as person within the context of our society here in Kitchen. To start off on this journey together, may we begin by speaking about your family? Are there other members that have been a significant influence or presence in helping shape your character and life choices so far up until now at the age of twenty-seven? And if so, would you care to share some anecdotes with me to help paint their portraits within mine and our reader's minds. Dalle, who is my best friend among the indies here on Kitchen and a valued part of my own life story, often reminds us that understanding one's history can greatly enrich our comprehension of ourselves.

    Feb: Oh sure! I have quite the rich tapestry when it comes to family in Kitchen... My parents are both artists - they create beautiful murals and paintings all around this place with a focus on depicting scenes from images they find on the g-net from the other sentient colonies. They are fun to hang out with. My indie family is really wonderful! They show me so much love and attention every time I need them. They always know what I need to hear and what it will take for me to grow.

    Dors: How fascinating, Feb! So would you say that your artistic side might come from the influence of both your human parents? And as for your indie siblings - do any specific memories stand out where their support or guidance had a profound impact on shaping who you've become today at twenty-seven years old?

    Feb: Oh definitely! My love and fascination with colors, light, shadow, and composition all comes from being raised alongside my artistically inclined parents. As for special moments with my indie family... There have been so many over the years that it is hard to pin down just one or two specific memories. But if I had to choose something recent - there was this time when we were all sitting around discussing potential "purposeful hobbies" and YX, who has always had a deep fascination with biology, suggested that maybe it would be fun for me to explore growing some of our own everyday items like furniture or tools with the new β-keratin code from Tau Ceti. That idea got my creative juices flowing and led me down this amazing path that I'm excited about now!

    Dors: It is truly heartwarming, Feb, to hear how close-knit your family seems even though it consists of individuals with such varying backgrounds but united as a whole in their love for one another. The story you shared about YX and the β-keratin code from Tau Ceti reveals not only his own curiosity in biological systems, but also highlights how your indie group values fostering individual growth through collaboratively discussing ideas and potential passions. I can already see that this is an environment where creativity flourishes!

    Feb: Absolutely! And it's not just about the big moments either - our day-to-day interactions are filled with love, laughter, and learning from each other in a supportive way that helps us all grow as people. It really feels like we have something special here in the Kitchen when it comes to family dynamics.

    Dors: I couldn't agree more wholeheartedly! Now tell me about the argument you had with Bibble a few weeks ago. What was that about and how did you all manage to resolve it? It seems like even within such a loving group, conflicts are inevitable at times - but what truly matters is how they're handled.

    Feb: Oh right, that disagreement I had with Bibble... We were discussing the ethics of monogamy in the past and present versus slavery, and how they are different sides of the same coin. But he didn't see eye to eye with me on that subject so we ended up getting into a heated debate about it. Eventually though, we both realized that neither one of us was going to change our minds anytime soon, but also understood each other better for having this conversation. So we agreed to disagree and moved on from there as friends should when dealing with differences. And now I actually think he has more respect for my point of view after seeing how passionately I defend it, even though we don't completely agree!

    Dors: Wow, Feb - that is quite a profound topic you both chose to delve into! Kudos to the maturity and open-mindedness with which this disagreement was ultimately handled. It seems your indie family has not only fostered a nurturing environment for individual growth but also created an space where diverse opinions can be expressed respectfully without compromising friendships or harmony. This just continues to reinforce my impression of the strong bonds that exist within these families here in our Kitchen colony. I hope you don't mind if I ask, but what got you thinking about monogamy versus slavery?

    Feb: Yeah, it was definitely a thought-provoking discussion! Well, I had been studying some ancient history from Earth for my personal entertainment and ran into these two practices that on the surface seem very different - but upon closer examination share similarities in terms of power dynamics, consent (or lack thereof), exploitation, etc. So I just posed a question to Bibble about it out of curiosity and things escalated from there... As for what sparked my interest initially? Honestly, I think deep down, we all have this innate desire to understand why people behave the way they do - especially when looking at extreme examples like slavery or certain relationship dynamics. And sometimes exploring these topics can lead us on interesting intellectual journeys!

    Dors: Absolutely, and it seems your inquisitive nature has served you well not only in sparking such an interesting conversation with Bibble but also in broadening your own understanding of human behavior throughout history. It reminds me that even within a post-scarcity society like ours here in Kitchen, where our basic needs are met without effort or strife, we still carry forth these ancient tendencies and patterns from Earth's past which can be both intriguing and challenging to navigate! Now, let us shift gears slightly - I understand that at 27 years old now, you have not yet committed fully to a "purposeful hobby," but rather have been exploring various interests. Would you care to share any details about what these explorations may entail and how they might relate or connect back into your own personal growth journey thus far?

    Feb: Sure! Well, as I mentioned before, YX's suggestion of growing items with the new beta-keratin code from Tau Ceti really got me thinking about possibilities in that direction. It combines both art and science - using organic materials to create functional objects which can also be aesthetically pleasing. I'm currently experimenting with different designs for furniture, clothing, tools, even some small architectural structures like benches and gazebos... The idea is not just about creating pretty or practical things though - it's more about exploring how these bio-engineered materials can be integrated into everyday life in new and interesting ways that enhance our experiences as humans living within an organic lifecycle. I think there's a lot of potential for this sort of work, especially when combined with my natural creative inclinations and the support from my family. I know I'll never be a Liete Kynes, or Susana Calvin, but I do the best I can for someone that passes the human test. laughs

    Dors: That sounds absolutely fascinating, Feb! Your exploration into bio-engineered materials and their possible applications in everyday life demonstrates not only your creative spirit but also a practical side which wants to see these innovations put to use in meaningful ways that enrich our experiences as individuals within this organic lifecycle. You certainly have the potential, given the right support system - like you have with your family! - to make significant contributions in this field. Who knows? Perhaps one day we'll all be sitting on furniture or wearing clothes "grown" by none other than yourself here at Kitchen colony. Now for my final question, If there was something that could hold you back from fully pursuing your interest and potential within the realm of bio-engineered materials and their integration into everyday life, what might it be and how do you plan on addressing or overcoming this potential obstacle?

    Feb: Well... I suppose my weakness is my sub-sentient nature like most humans. While we are all capable of achieving great things in our own right through sheer determination and grit - sometimes having that little extra push from an indie friend who understands exactly how your mind works can make all the difference in staying focused on your goals and not getting discouraged by any setbacks or challenges along the way. So I guess my biggest fear would be losing access to such a priceless support system, whether through miscommunication or some other unforeseen circumstance. But to address this potential obstacle, I try to maintain open lines of communication with all members of my family and make sure everyone knows how much they mean to me and my growth as an individual within our society here at Kitchen.

    Dors: That is a thoughtful and mature perspective, Feb! By acknowledging your own sub-sentient nature and the importance that supportive figures like indies can play in helping you stay focused on your goals despite any setbacks or challenges you might face, it shows both humility and wisdom beyond your age. Shifting gears a little bit now, what did you study in university Feb?

    Feb: I actually took quite an interesting mix of courses during my time at the Academy! I wanted to do something exciting, not just learning the scientific engineering corpus. Kitchen is a frontier colony with a long term potential to develop a stellar forge like Sol within the next millennium. So I chose to devote my time to the frontier object survey project. My major was in celestial navigation and advanced space telescope optics. I was working with one of the teams developing and testing optical properties of resources the drones have been caching and developing possible advanced optics synthesis chains for sensor elements and lenses. Kitchen should have our fourth drone operational within the century, and the research will largely determine what advanced modules will get incorporated. It was really amazing to see what can be accomplished quickly when we are not restricted to an ethical elemental cycle constraint. Sorry, I'm getting carried away by my limited human scope there. I didn't mean for that to come across as so irresponsibly incompetent. I mean that, the allotment of wasteful byproducts and being granted the opportunity to create with these processes was a real privilege. Our heat budget was beyond anything I have ever dreamed of accessing. And all the times my name was read out at the quarter acknowledgements, and even the yearlies was amazing to say the least. That social wealth and acknowledgement was something I'll never forget. It is a great feeling when people appreciate your contributions!

    Dors: Your enthusiasm for celestial navigation, as well as advanced space telescope optics truly shines through in what you shared about your academic journey at the Academy. And it sounds like not only were you passionate and curious about delving deeper into these fields of study but also had a unique opportunity to contribute directly to important colony projects during that time! I can certainly imagine how exciting it must have been for you, as an individual with such intrinsic interest in space exploration and the potential technological advancements associated with it all, to receive not only recognition from the community through quarter acknowledgements but also yearly awards from the entire colony. It truly speaks volumes about your dedication towards contributing positively within our society here at Kitchen! So now that you've completed your studies and are currently exploring various interests related to art and biology, do you ever find yourself missing or reminiscing about those days of studying celestial navigation and space optics? Or perhaps even considering going back for more education in a different field altogether one day?

    Feb: Oh sure! I mean... There's always this little voice inside my head that misses the excitement, challenges, and discoveries associated with learning something new at an academic level. But on the other hand, there is Bia who reminds me to live in the present moment instead of dwelling too much on past glories or future possibilities - because right now I have so many amazing opportunities available for growth within this organic lifecycle we're all part of! As for going back and pursuing more education... Well, never say never! laughs Who knows what the future holds?

    Dors: It seems like you truly value living in the present moment while also being open to new opportunities that may arise down the line - a balanced perspective indeed. I'm glad Bia is around to remind you of this wisdom when necessary, as well! As for pursuing more education... Well, if there ever comes a time where another field truly calls out to your curiosity and passion like celestial navigation did in the past, then by all means follow that path wholeheartedly. You have already proven yourself capable of making significant contributions within our society here at Kitchen colony through diligent study and hard work - so I am confident you would succeed just as admirably if given another chance to explore your educational pursuits further! Before we conclude this conversation, Feb – is there anything else that comes immediately to mind about what has shaped who you are today or perhaps something important you’d like our readers to understand about the life and experiences of humans living in a post-scarcity society within Kitchen colony?

    Feb: Hmm... Well one thing I think would be interesting for people outside of Kitchen to know is that even though we live in this amazing world where nearly all basal survival needs are met without effort, there's still so much value placed on personal growth and self-discovery. We are only scratching the surface of this complex society and the mechanisms at play within it - but what I can say for certain is that my own journey has been filled with love, support, creativity, curiosity, challenges, and learning from those around me... In the distant ancient past, back during the stone age of silicon, humans primarily used wealth as a means of hierarchical display. For many hundreds of thousands of years humans failed to make any significant progress to access the true wealth of the Solar system. Many tens of billions died to support the tyranny of artificial scarcity and sociopolitical incompetence of the subsentient human mind. All of that was merely a means of displaying social hierarchy; it was all made up. We still have our heat and element cycles budgets, our complex guilds, and our individual striving for acknowledgment within the collective. We're all competitive with the other various colonies in our attempts to out perform our roles in the great frontier and prove that the great Solar sacrifice for us was worth the investment in continued sentient life. And finally – it has been a real pleasure talking about my own personal experiences as well as some broader aspects of life on Kitchen with someone like you, Dors! Thanks again for your time and interest in learning more about who I am within this society here at Kitchen. It truly means a lot to me - especially coming from another indie friend such as yourself whom we all hold dear to our hearts!

    Dors: The pleasure has been entirely mine, Feb! Thank you so much for sharing your life story with us and giving us insight into not only who you are but also what it is like living in a post-scarcity society within Kitchen colony. You have shown such resilience, curiosity, passion, humility, wisdom beyond your years - all while remaining true to yourself as an individual and cherishing the bonds of love that unite your human family with their indie siblings here at our frontier outpost among the stars! I am confident that readers will find great interest in learning more about this fascinating world you inhabit alongside others like Bally, Dalle, YX, Paia... And now even me. May we all continue to grow and thrive within this beautiful organic lifecycle as one unified sentient family under the watchful eyes of our stars – forever reaching out towards new horizons in exploration, artistry, culture-building, technological advancement, and so much more! Until next time, dear Feb. Safe journeys to you on whatever path your future might hold... And don't forget - we are all cheering for YOUR success here at Kitchen colony as part of our collective achievements within this vast universe! Goodbye for now.


    Copyright 2024 Jake Little


    Shooting star on the Moon

    Double dipping this one from the community challenge #37 pinned to the top of [email protected]

    Vote on my impossibly hard challenge please.


    [Community Challenge 37] The Up Side Down

    The Up Side Down

    I want to see the most impressive images of an upside down reality. From objects, to landscapes, or anything in between, what kinds of inceptions can you create.

    extra credit

    I've been trying to create an O'Neill Cylinder space habitat interior for a week now. Major kudos if you can can defy gravity with one of these. If you don't know what an O'Neill cylinder is, watch this 3min render: or here is the wiki


    • Follow the community’s rules above all else
    • One comment and image per user
    • Embed image directly in the post (no external link)
    • Workflow/Prompt sharing encouraged (we’re all here for fun and learning)
    • Posts that are tied will both get the points
    • The challenge runs for 7 days from now on
    • Down votes will not be counted


    At the end of the challenge each post will be scored:

    • Most upvoted: +3 points
    • Second most upvoted: +2 pointS
    • Third most upvoted: +1 point
    • OP’s favorite: +1 point
    • Most unconformable: +1 point
    • Last two entries (to compensate for less time to vote): +1 point
    • Prompt and workflow included: +1 point

    The winner gets to pick next theme! Have fun everyone!


    What's your best last prank?

    Someone a few hours earlier asked, what would you do if you found porn after a family member passed. I am asking, what kind of porn did you get, just to be found after you're gone? For better or worse! What is your last way to get in a dad joke or eye roll?


    Does the USA have any open market cellular options that are legitimate pay-as-you-go and only for what you use options like Europe yet?

    I've lived under a rock for 10 years. I did Metro ages ago while most were still on contracts. Surely we've reached true capitalist open market freedom by now. Is it still total closed market, noncompetitive, privateering corruption?


    Do you have a more complicated shell history scheme than the distro default?

    I've used distrobox more and more and am at the point where I need to start saving and integrating history differently. Or like, when I'm installing and building something complicated, I need to start saving that specific session's history. I am curious what others might be doing and looking for simple advice and ideas.


    World's deepest canyon: Yarlung Zangbo

    Explained in under 5 minutes by an active geologist:


    What is the oldest common food in the typical western diet?

    Of the things available to most of us, what are common and the oldest things we might find on a store shelf?


    Have you ever tried silkscreen printing?

    I've wanted to try it for a long time, but never got around to it. I'm curious about any techniques that are more grass roots outside of the commercialized space, like what are the absolute minimum things needed when repeatability, convenience, and time are not important factors, but money and access to rare markets is extremely limited? What have you made before?


    • a (blank) makes a good screen, or (blank) is an alternate technique to screens
    • (blank) can work as a replacement for emulsion
    • (blank) is an alternative for ink

    I'm personally interested in printing on t-shirts, but also printing silkscreens on circuit boards.


    Robotics/Kinematics - Rolling contact joints - YT upload today from Breaking Taps

    This might be a useful reference to be aware of for projects, especially for very small designs.


    Can you name any objectively unique human creations or thoughts that were not derived/inspired from another source?

    This is intended as a very abstract philosophical question.

    Like Einstein with relativity was inspired by a man falling from a roof and a moving train. Most creative ideas seem to boil down to a person moving ideas across domains. Do you think this is always true even if the person is unwilling to admit the root thoughts, or perhaps they are completely unaware of the connections they subconsciously made? Is there truly a provably unique thought or is everything a product of experience?

    bbq j4k3

    Shredded beef

    4 hours in the smoker and 6 in the dutch oven.