Someone who does not appreciate those who steal from exploitative global corporations, is not someone worth knowing.
The entire reason the McDonald's app exists is so McDonald's can have variable prices to rip you off based on what they learn about your habits.
I hardly classify using their services in unintended ways as "stealing".
If tech went down for six months, they'd offer you a discount for hopping on one leg while rubbing your stomach and patting your head.
Besides data collection, the main purpose is to get more money out of people willing to pay more without missing out on people who won't pay that much.
It's tiered pricing where they're fine with you selecting a tier, as long as they steer enough to the higher one l.
This is what you text to win her back.
Maybe not something you show off on the first date. Got to lay down the Marxist theory first.
Let your che Guevara date night t shirt do the taking
I can appreciate those who steal from corporations but I sure as hell don't want to implicate myself by being with them when they do it lol
A guy I hung out with in college told me about all the ATMs he stole and asked if I wanted to go with him next time.. I said maybe another time and then never spoke to him again. I didn't want to be associated with him when he eventually got busted...which he did...
If he cheats with you he'll cheat on you. Even if it's cheating on food.
What a wild take
He'll use his laptop running multiple girlfriend emulators to gamify the relationship!
Nobody got anything to say about her reply?! She could have just ghosted him but instead gave an honest reply.
Many people who get mad at getting ghosted also often get mad at the "bullshit" reasons they get, so you're not going to hear a lot of praise.
Its also perfectly fine to just say "Hey, sorry, I don't think we're compatible" and not even give reasons why
We normalize normality.
i can't help but think that if your first date with someone is drive thru mcdonalds, maybe that should have been the first clue
My first date with my girlfriend was at a Wendy's and we took the bus to get there. That was 2005. We got married in 2009 and just celebrated our 15th wedding anniversary. It doesn’t matter where you go or how much you spend, it just matters who you’re there with.
How many times did they say, "Sir, this is a Wendy's" before they just gave up and let you stay all the way until you got married there?
They said “drive through” explicitly. I think there’s a difference between going somewhere because you’re poor and going somewhere because you’re lazy.
If your first date is a glorious scam heist, the future looks promising
Maybe don't order carnist options though
I dunno. McDs was mine and my spouse's first date, after church.
We are married 27 years now....
I'm barely older than you're marriage but McDonald's was a very different vibe when I was a kid. I still wouldn't say anything to shame people going to McDonald's for a first date today.
Some people are poorer than you
A while back Taco Bell and T-Mobile was doing some promo where you could get a free taco each week (or something like that, it's been years) for "T-Mobile Tuesday". The code wasn't unique, but it's use was tracked on the TB account. TB at this time also didn't have a captcha for new accounts.
I also had a Google Workspace domain that had its email rigged to accept and deliver any email sent to its domain regardless of what was before the @.
A bit of C# later and I had a Taco Generator going, on command it would generate however many orders at whatever TB I choose. I'd just roll up and say I had 12 orders for cm0002 LMAO
No one ever said anything until the one time i pushed my luck and had it generate 24 tacos, then the manager was like "Better not be this high again, I'm cool with the 12"
That's a cool manager.
I’m cool with the 12”
hehe. That's what he said.
Honestly, fuck you.
I managed a pizza place for six years and I cut the scam orders down to 10% of what they were when I took over. We were insanely busy in the fattest city in the USA.
Aside- I don't mind giving food away, I always made sure there was food for the staff, even made my own recipes for everyone that's so much better than what you can order at [corpo store]. During the busy season we had 40 employees and I made sure they were all fed and made sure they had food to take home to their families if they were in a bad spot. I was actually making less than minimum wage because I was exempt salary at the federal minimum and I worked 50-70 hours a week. We also fed homeless people as long as they took what we had and didn't demand we cook something for them.
Back on topic- Scammers are not starving people, they're just assholes. We had one guy who was getting one free pizza each week delivered to his fucking boat. I mean this guy was getting a free pizza with no tip delivered during the busiest part of the busiest day of the week for years! When I told him to never call again he called me every name he could, and threatened to call the police. I had so many people threaten to come over and fight me when I refused their scams. I would drop everything even in the middle of the shittiest rush to shut down a scam. Scams hurt everyone and especially hurt the drivers who got $2.15 an hour. Scammers never tip.
For any food managers who read this, I developed a technique I call the broken record. In a cheery voice, I would say "I'm sorry sir/ma'am but without a verified order I'm unable to issue a replacement." They would but but but but and I would say "I'm sorry sir/ma'am but without a verified order I'm unable to issue a replacement."
Sometimes they would hang up after two. Sometimes I would say it eight times in a row. But that's all I would say once I was sure they were lying. It worked fucking fantastic and the more they cussed me out the better my day would get. They would say the most ridiculous shit like the pizza put my daughter in the hospital. And you want another?
Years of this combined with knowing pathological liars since I was a child means I can spot a liar right away. I am very fucking good at knowing when someone is lying. I don't mind when people exaggerate a story a bit for fun, I do it myself, but liars can go fuck off all the way. They do not care about you, only what they can get from you.
Thanks for coming to my Fred talk.
Man this is such a sad comment. Imagine people gaming the system are the problem and not the company you work for that is paying a driver 2.15 an hour.
a) This was TB a giant multi-billion dollar conglomerate, not the local pizza joint nor did I ever place it for delivery, no tip was expected.
b) The manager knew what I was doing and was mad about the quantity rather than what I was doing and gave me a stern "Just keep it reasonable" warning. Which I adhered to, had he told me to stop entirely I would have.
Unfathomably based. You're a good person.
That's kind of like going up to a display that says "free sample - one per customer" and taking several samples. And doing so on a first date, like: this is who I am. It's not really bad or anything, it's just... kind of weird and embarassing.
It is overtly bad. It's making someone's shitty job worse because you think you're better and so smart for beating the system. Garbage people.
Is there anything that really makes their job shittier about this though? Than than dealing with three orders instead of one?
If anything with the focus these days on metrics around how fast they can serve customers these three simple orders probably made their metrics look better so they could slack off on the next few orders.
But yeah just says "I'm a cheapskate."
Oh poor McDonald's will never recover from this. Now they'll have to treat staff a bit worse to clutch back part of the losses.
I'm a tech guy. I dont mind the occasional redistribution of wealth from corporations. I can even appreciate exploits found in the wild like this or doing hacking when it doesn't hurt people.
What this signals, though, is that you are cheap. I side with the girl on this. It's a date. Pay for the meal and show her you can be normal first.
Yes, he was trying to come off as a cool hacker, but that's not why she's brushing him off.
It's because he said "I'm in."
Eh, I dunno why everyone is so negative about this. A knowledgeable person, free food, and (I suppose the critical point) I'm into this stuff too, so fuck yeah let's go. And whipping out that knowledge boner on the first go? Shit, setting the bar kinda high. What's in store for next time, gonna joyride in a new car after you take control of it remotely? Oh just take me now, I'm ready~.
Just gotta remember to torch it after, evidence is a bitch. Or so I've heard. Ehem. Anyway... nuggets, not a big deal, but knowledge is sexy af.
Besides. Fucking mcnuggets?
Questionable date food, but otherwise they're fine.
No, they're for eating.
Ok McDonald's
Gonna need a normal emulator…
Or maybe, just maybe, we should love people as they are and not make up stupid societal bullshit to follow for an indeterminate amount of time. I get you don't want to let out all the crazy before you know someone, and maybe this really is too much up front and your point stands. But I don't think it's that grevious. Maybe they are cheap, or maybe they wanted to show how skilled they are, or maybe they thought "this is really cool to me, I hope she finds it cool too".
Either way it's clear she's not a fit for him. But that's kind of a stupid note to end things on. I hope he finds someone more tolerant and understanding that takes an interest instead of being judgy and "weirded out" by essentially a hobby.
Yah this isn't something you break out on the first date, you really have to get to know the person and learn what their social views and politics are before you try to "subvert capitalism at the nearest mcdonalds."
I mean, good tho that he learned early. It's just too bad he's going to get a billion messages asking how to do this trick exactly and McDonalds Corporation will have to patch their kiosks.
We can't have nice things.
Or donate the value of the meal to her favorite charity
What am I missing? Is there a “free 10 nuggets, 1x per customer” kind of thing going on?
When you sign up on the app as a new user that's exactly it.
Someone else posted something about the price being different based on your user profile/purchase history, so maybe having three logins, they can't build up a proper profile.Or they have a "limit 10 per customer" thing?Edit: Guy above me posted that it was a sign-up-and-get-free-nuggets kinda thing...
As a straight dude, I'll date ya Eli. Absolute legend, showing character and something different.
Yeah, I woulda thought this guy is a scammer and too would have moved on
Great first date if you meet on one of the infosec mastodon instances, but otherwise you just look like a dirtbag, yup.
She's prob thinking like "oh God this guy can hack my phone"
There's a bunch of context missing from this. Did he tell her hey, I know a cool way we can get free McNuggets? Or did he just ask her out, took her to McDonald's and randomly pulled out a laptop with android emulators to get free McNuggets? Context matters a lot.
If it's the second one, it's giving me these vibes: :
stuffs deep fried chicken paste in mouth
your loss !
Showing off tech skills, sticking it to the man, and getting chicken nuggets? You're great and dodged a bullet with that girl. Find someone who appreciates you!
I hope a shit ton of folks do this and they only lose money with the apps. they are bullshit.
Back in my day, we'd hack the local convenience store without computers. Walk in, stroll to the fridge, put cold beers in the inner pockets of the jacket and then walk out.
For some weird reason this also didn't impress the girls. They'd rather hang with the affluent fuck boi who paid for stuff with his parents money.
The only downside I'm seeing is that now you have 30 nuggets.
Anyone here who wants pro dating moves for 2024:
Have the ability to change your sheets right in front of your date, at least twice.
Own towels, not just one towel but sets of towels. Like an adult.
Have soap & toilet paper & hand towels in your bathroom(s)
Basically having a stocked linen closet will go a long way.
Also try being rich and fucking hot.
A well stocked fridge will get you women, this is understood.
I've been married for years now, have multiple kids, my wife still makes fun of the fact that when she moved in with me, I had a pack of sausages, and a 6 pack of beer in the fridge....
My issue with buying food, is that when I go to the store my ADHD kicks me in the face, and I don't know what I need. I'd make a shopping list, but my ADHD don't allow me to do that. I have to submit papers for the chance to get evaluated if I need adhd medication, but my ADHD stops me from doing that today, because the deadline doesn't exist
I just need to share that this series of images caused a wild multiple-hour-long argument between two autistic people in a group chat I'm in, one complaining about the undue work caused by the 3x10 McNugget orders, and the other saying "nah man its fine plus this is awesome it means the guy is trying to be frugal!"
I'm talking thousands of written words poured into argument for or against this individual's actions, sourcing expert testimony from friends and relatives that work in fast food, and even harsh words questioning individuals' respect for fast food workers. I'm honestly surprised nobody left the group chat because of this late night battle of wits
This is the kind of nerd sniping I'm here for. Invite them to Lemmy. 🍿
I think it's worth noting that my local McDonalds only serves Mcnuggets in packages of 10. If I order 40 Mcnuggets, they always give me four bags of 10.
Not to mention that the "date" was to McDonalds.
Explain how this works. I would like some nuggies.
I'm assuming they are just spinning up new Android VMs to install the app on so it looks like a first time install and eligible for some free nuggets promotional.
This is exactly how it works, although they've started trying to give you different deals ($1 instead of free, only works on second purchase, fries instead of nuggets, etc)
The app will ban both your IP and MAC address if you use it too many times, so make sure you can either create a new one (via a VM) or randomize it. (Via a custom ROM with MAC randomization enabled)
Don't ask me how I know.
You don't actually need VMs, you just need alternate accounts on the app. The McDs app is stupid in the way all apps used to be and it doesn't check for unique device IDs or anything before letting you redeem the same offer on a different account w/ same device.
Can't show your best moves on the first date
Here's the link if anybody was looking for it: https://xcancel.com/rats7/status/1860039193201881356
ofc people are saying OOP is in the wrong 🙃
NOOO THIS WILL SURELY HARM THE WORKERS IN SOME WAY!!
The store literally loses nothing for this. It's just head office.
That just shows you're a good provider.
Knickers dropping.
Maybe she's not that into nuggets.
I'm into nuggets.
... y'all.
Women these days... even a date to McDonalds doesn't impress 'em.
ba da ba ba ba, she ain't loving it
no wait please come back teach me your ways
Idk what s going through the girls head, or Wlis for that matter, but this would be a win for me
She'll be thinking about you in ten years when she's got three kids and both parents are working two jobs each to pay their rent.
It's an incredibly cringey thing to do on a first date. Like he's a Tim Robinson character.
I'd be more upset about the date being at McDonald's than him getting free food from an evil corporation
Nah this is crazy lmfao
wow i used to know this guy
Everyone boo this woman.
Meh.
Sounds like this is more of a convenient excuse rather than an actual deal breaker.
Like there was likely something else going on and The vibes weren't there and this is a quick and easy way to get out of the relationship when you know it's not going anywhere.
And I feel relatively confident in this assumption because everyone knows that if a girl is really into you she'll put up with some really fucking weird shit to keep the relationship alive.
Free nugs is not a deal breaker.
I agree with the girl. If you're willing to steal from a McDonalds, what else are you scheming and how long until those scheme involve me? Theft is theft and I'd want nothing to do with it.
Edit. I don't care about McDonalds, I care about the lads moral compass and how he is willing to show off his "trick" to a first date and just drag her into a scheme. At least wait a while to say "what if we made 3 accounts and just got 3 orders of the $1 nugget deal?"
If the date is cool with it, great f* big corp. If not, you know she's got morals that don't perfectly align with yours - which is okay, as long you respect that and figure it out.
I'll stand by my statement "theft is theft", but I myself also won't deny having some morally gray online activities. However, I wouldn't want to have a first movie date through a movies123 clone. First impressions are key.
If you think that someone "stealing" 30 chicken nuggets from a company worth over 200 billion dollars is somehow an indication that they must also treat their loved ones poorly, you're thinking far too simply about the complexity of human motivation. Amazingly, exploiting soulless corporations and hurting people are completely unrelated behaviors.
Definitely not theft by any meaningful definition
Agree. An offer was made by McDonald's (free 10 nuggets for signup on app). This was accepted and done three times. It is McDonald's fault for not securing their offer to prevent what happened. They need clearly display and enforce the limits of the offer. If you're able to meet the requirements of the offer 3 times and they don't stop you then that's on them.
Also yeah, fuck billion dollar corporations. Even if it was theft, they have a budget for this kind of crap.
Do you think if I googled "McDonald's wage theft" it would come up with some stories?
...now you might say "two wrongs don't make a right to thins".... But what if I could then find similar scams and problems centered around exploitation in all billion dollar companies or billionaire rises to power.
Now what if I could then trace these stories back through time and find many billionaires come from wealthy families, and many wealthy families have ties to even more dubious and exploitative practices throughout history.
...from things like America's wars for banana republics or fascists in Latin America, to things like The Triangle Shirtwaist fire maybe even some going back through WW1 & 2, or slavery and colonization.
So it's also a question of what is wrong in the world at large and how to resolve or replace it.
P.S Obviously this assumes those chickens wanted to be nuggets. Turns out moral philosophy is just more difficult than "what's wrong is wrong".
I think I'd like to go home now.
But who steals from the thieves?
the cops
Oh no! Someone stole from a multi-billion dollar global company! That very same company who wouldn't hesitate a second if it could make money murdering you without consequence! How dare they!
LOL at the downvotes. Like showing your date a scam on a first date is perfectly reasonable behavior. Sometimes lemmy just screams, "I can't get laid to save my life! Why not?!"
My first date with my (now) wife featured us watching a movie after I showed her how to torrent it. It's an easy way to parse through date prospects who are too hung up on corporate-defined ethics. I knew she was a catch when she was interested in the prospect of bypassing overpriced movie fees, rather than worrying about how some billion-dollar company was going to get my $10, like some other dates I'd had.
Agree and disagree. His "schemes" are going to be more like: "drive me around on Halloween while I run up to the storefront and take all the candy left out for kids!"
Damn, free nuggets and candy, this guy is a catch.
Lemmy teenagers coming for you on this one. How about zero exploits on a first date?
