Elon Musk’s popularity plummets to 6% among Democrats, poll finds
Elon Musk’s popularity plummets to 6% among Democrats, poll finds
The poll shows that public views of Musk are increasingly polarized, with Republican support of the billionaire rising while Democratic support falls.
The poll shows that public views of Musk are increasingly polarized, with Republican support of the billionaire rising while Democratic support falls.
Elon Musk’s support among Democrats has withered to a new low as he has embraced Republican politics, according to a national NBC News poll.
Only 6% of Democrats in the poll, which was conducted Sept. 13-17, said they had positive feelings about Musk, while 79% said they had negative feelings. The numbers were flipped for Republicans, with 62% having positive feelings toward him and 14% negative feelings. Independents were split, 31% to 36%.
The poll shows that views of Musk are increasingly polarized, reflecting the transformation of his public image in recent years from that of an environmentally aware automaker crusading against fossil fuels to that of a conservative activist aligned with former President Donald Trump.
The fuck is wrong with that 6%?
They are stock holders, left holding the bag.
They bought a Tesla and now feel like they have to defend their decision
Why was there even a poll for this?
The poll is 26 pages long
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25171447-240405-nbc-september-2024-poll_922-release
It's just a few triangulated facts derived from the overall results. This is how almost all polling works.
Lizardman constant strikes again.
You almost always have a few percent of nonsensical responses in a poll. People who hate sandwiches but love peanut butter and jelly stuck between two pieces of bread. It's so consistent that the lack of it is an indication the poll was rigged or badly done.
They're probably mostly part of the ~8% of Democrats who lean conservative according to Pew's political typology.
“I, a genius, will alienate the group who want EVs to curry favor with the group who will never buy EVs. Genius, I say.”
Thats fine, I'm sure Republicans will start buying EVs any day now
The next tesla model will have a coal oven inside it. Will still run on electricity, the oven is just in there so you can do some pollution too. The main factor in making the electric part palpable to republicans will be telling them how brown people are being exploited to get the materials for the batteries out of the ground.
Nah, it will be worse. Tesla will start selling a hybrid model with a generator onboard that can charge the battery as you go. That generator will be designed to be fueled by ground-up burning tires, unrecycleable plastic, and human hair. .
Gotta be able to compete in the rolling coal market
Still too high.
6% is waaay too high
Who. Fucking. Cares.
(Not directed at OP, just the idea of the survey in general. Who needed to know this information? Why do they think the public needs to know how popular a random rich guy it's.)
he's not a random rich guy and claiming that is either disingenuous or irresponsible. though i get the frustration, just because he's a demonic troglodyte you wish you never heard about anymore doesn't mean you get to ignore his existence. then they get to do whatever they want.
pushback, scrutiny and ridicule are the only tools we have against massively influential cunts. and because they're massively influential, their popularity matters.
Someone may want to know if you are a Democrat or Republican (for advertising, for gerrymandering, whatever). That person may not be able to ask you a direct question like that though (or may feel that you may lie about the answer to such a question anyway).
As such, they likely carry out occasional surveys asking people who are Democrat or Republicans for their opinions on something else. Once they find something else that can strongly correlate your political affiliation with a specific opinion, they know of a new question they can ask someone. That new question should generally reveal what your political party is most likely and they can then proceed with that "most likely" answer.
So "who cares" is those who cannot directly ask you something. They will ask you something else and use that answer to deduce the information they cannot obtain directly.
As I understand this "question by proxy" can be even more effective because people are less likely to lie about Musk than about their political views
Makes much more sense. Thank you.
Considering how politically active he is, he might become a politician (even running for president?). A lot of people will care about this if suddenly Elon musk appears in American ballots.
EDIT: I just remembered that Elon cannot run for USA president. But idk if other political positions are open.
And seeing how trump can break every law, I don't see what would prevent Elon from running for president.
Become president/buy a president. Same diff.
With our current SCOTUS all he has to do is sue then ride it up to SCOTUS and have em declare it unconstitutional to have requirements for office.
would prevent Elon from running for president.
Not native-born though
That's kind of a paradox - we can't stop reporting actions of assholes like him because they do things borderline dangerous to society, but that exact reporting gives them the popularity to do all that
Money is power. Rich people are more powerful than politics. We should care much more about them than we do now. Musk is dangerous. He's also visible and that's a good thing. The quiet invisible ones are even more dangerous.
I care, math is neat.
Neeeeerd
A survey conducted means someone paid for it. I'm having a hard time believing anyone but Elon himself being willing to pay for this survey.
Maybe someone on the board at Tesla demanded it when they gave him the money to prove he wasn't worth investing in. 🤷
Pretty much every media outlet across the world.
The opposing party in the UK is electing leaders, and they've all been asked what they think of him. Like it or not, but in turning one of the biggest multi-billion dollar social media platforms into a small million dollar right-wing platform for crypto bots, he's now got a lot of influence on politics across the world.
What makes it funnier is that he probably doesn't give a fuck about the Tories in the UK, but if Trump loses he'll own a right-wing platform with zero influence on what he cares about.
It's not for us, it is for him.
He really cares how popular he is, that is why he is buying all these popular businesses to pretend he founded them.
Fuck Elon
Fuck Tesla
Fuck Xitter
Fuck Spa Sex
Fuck Starlink
Did I miss anyone? Oh yes, and Fuck Elon.
Neuralink.
Fuck that shit, too.
(Especially when you learn about thiel and the other tech Bros plans to harvest humans for biofuel by keeping them alive and hooked up in a virtual world. As a more "humane alternative to genocide")
https://newrepublic.com/article/183971/jd-vance-weird-terrifying-techno-authoritarian-ideas
Fuck Spa Sex
What did spa sex ever do to you tho?
It ruined Myspacex
Got a UTI ☹️. 🔥🥒
No sex nor spa.
The Boring Company, fuck them, too.
Really good way to sell electric cars. Good job Elon.
Something to avoid- standing near a parked Tesla with sentry mode enabled drains its battery significantly as it tracks you. Locating a camera and displaying a paper sign, one light enough to blow in the wind that reads “musk sucks”, would accomplish the same thing, and should also be avoided.
While funny... I think you underestimate how big the battery in a Tesla is and also how little power the computer would pull.
THAT said... I wonder if there is a drive somewhere that could be filled doing that?
Why in God's good name would I care about Elon Muskrat's popularity among Democrats?
YOU might not. But I'm sure the politicians and bureaucrats who determine whether Musk's businesses continue getting billions in taxpayer funded subsidies would sure like to know if the public is behind continuing to do that. I for one would consider it a bonus if say, the Democrats won control in November, looked at the numbers and decided none of their supporters are behind Musk, determined he's been playing fast and loose using taxpayer dollars to fund pushing his own political agenda, and turned off the free ride.
Right? Just said the same thing. Man. Journalism is getting cringey and embarrassing lately.
Who the hell are those 6%?
Bootlickers, probably.
The people that made money investing in Tesla. I have a friend that made a ton of of Elon. But I'm a good boy, and bite my tongue about it.
62% positive isn't really the flipside of 79% negative.
If you combine the 6 and 62% positive and estimate they are about equal size demographics, it's only about 34% positive combined, with 47% negative.
I bet that when Tesla collapses, the 62% positive republicans will decline too. Republicans are only positive towards him because they think he is some sort of money guru.Tesla is losing marketshare hard in Europe, and probably in China too, if it isn't happening already in USA it is probably imminent, as Tesla developments of new cars can't keep up with the pace of the competition, and Tesla models are looking more and more outdated. Tesla is already looking like a failing company, despite they have by far the biggest marketshare in pure EV.
Tesla also lost a ton of the initial talent that made the model S and X such incredible feats of technology. IMO, if I buy and electric car here in the states it’s a Lucid, and if I get an SUV it’s a Rivian.
That Lucid Air Sapphire looks niiiiice.
The new Lucid air looks awesome, FFS 1234 hp and 1.9 sec 0-60 mph !! The more moderate Touring trim is $85k which comes to almost $110k here with taxes.
That's a bit above my pay grade, but the BMW i4 is very popular here (Denmark) and is almost half that. A way better option than any Tesla IMO.
The only thing keeping Tesla going is the prohibition on Chinese EVs.
This isn't reflected in the stock price. It's one of the stocks I keep an eye on and I constantly see articles about the company in trouble and losing market share and yet the stock continues to keep ticking up. I'll believe it's failing when the market starts to turn on it.
A lot of people believe Tesla isn't a car company anymore, but an AI and energy company. And the stock value seems to be based on that.
But those branches bring in very little revenue, and I doubt Tesla will ever succeed in those branches.
Musk has promised for 8 years that fully autonomous driving would be available next year. But they are not even a leader like they claim.
Musk is either nuts or a con man.
We cannot explain why it's this high
Sure we can. Given the choice, a small percentage of people in a poll will always pick the worst answer. Is Hitler still alive, living in Argentina, and I want to give him a real nice blow job? 5% say yes, yes, and yes.
So you're saying it's in the margin of error? Lol
Seems like that's his goal?
Big if true!
Poll of whom, you ask?
Interviews: 1,000 Registered Voters, including 870 respondents interviewed via cellphone. Date: September 13-17, 2024
They obviously don't poll those of us who don't answer calls from numbers we don't recognize.
And don't return sketchy voicemails. We Olde learned this in the days of "Caller ID" as an extra paid service.
So you're saying those numbers could be lower? Lower indeed. Maybe into the negative.
the numbers are cartoonish.
Christ, he's ACTUALLY managed to hit the Lizardman Constant with the dems.
Now hit it with the Repubs too. Come on Trump. You wanna turn on your ally. You wanna turn on your ally and throw him to your cult soooooo badly. It'll be really funny I promise
Trump is easy to manipulate. Go on Truth Social, astroturf the shit out of the idea that Musk is going to backstab Trump. Sit back and enjoy the show.
Many many people are saying it. Trump would have won if Musky Leon actually was a man of his word and ran those Trump ads on X. He promised $45 million of ads during the RNC, but Leon ended up just charging $45 million for the first ad.
I sure fucking hope it's not 94% for Republicans.
Probably higher.
I can only see 'being a billionaire' as 'stealing from the population at large'. So you're saying the biggest thief of society is still popular among 6% of democrats.
I'm surprised it's not a negative number.
That would require all democrats and at least some republicans to have a negative view
if he starts painting his face and saying 'you're fired'. look out 6%
Seems high.
I mean… yeah.
I do wonder what the reason for those 6% are,
Not surprised there are some, but do they support some of what he is doing or are they tolerant?
I think some people really aren’t aware of his political side and just see him as the green car guy.
You'd have to be living under a rock to not be aware of Musk's political side at this point ... and rocks are too expensive for anybody to afford any more.
Who are the 6% that identify as Democrats?
And yet we are supporting his monopoly on smart electric vehicles with tariffs.
Why are we doing popularity polls on billionares? Unless he’s running for office the default for all normal Americans should just be eat the rich.
Well Taylor Swift is now a billionaire and she popular af.
Emo:
- treats his employees like shit (some are even suing)
- he sends money to the fascist felon
- actively supports the fascist felon on Shitter and IRL
- trying to extort 56 billion from Tesla (to keep him motivated)
its what happens when he sucks a spoiled orange in public
Why are we tracking this assholes popularity like he is someone relevant to anything that requires popularity?
He’s a tech douche. Who fucking cares what percentage of popularity he holds!? He’s not running for office. He’s not even qualified to.
Ugly, gross, cringe, white cucks aren’t my thing either. May be the one thing I share with the libs.
Leftists ≠ Libs. The Libs were split 31% to 36% in this poll.
Admittedly the Democrats aren't leftists.
ONLY?!
he was always a terrible person even when he was "that nerd who goes on big bang theory" but let's face it. his popularity is lower with more people than just democrats.
Why is musk’s(and Swift’s) popularity newsworthy? Unless they are trying to run for office, who cares?
Musk has continued to interfere with politics over and over again. From donations, to censorship, to being a weird fucking creep to female politicians.
Swift was dragged in there because Donald Trump shared fake AI images of her supporting Donald. To fix the blowback, Swift said, "Ew you old filthy pedo, I'm not doing that". (Don't quote me)
Its newsworthy because it's news.
So Musk is a creepy dickhead. That’s not news. It’s been apparent for quite a while now
Musk bought one of the biggest social media platforms expressly to manipulate news, which in turn manipulates politics and markets.
He's basically like a narcissistic Rupert Murdock who wants to make his manipulation all centered around how cool he is.
That's news.
Taylor Swift is just filler content. It's taking the place of worlds largest cookie stories. But the reason it gains traction is that she has taken on a bit of a counter persona to the Right's habitual sexism. She's an influential woman. The Right can't stand that shit.
It was news when he bought the platform. It was news when advertisers boycotted his platform. It was news when it first became a far right cesspool. It’s news when X finally capitulated to the Brazilian government.
His approval rating doesn’t matter and isn’t news. His continual support of far right figures isn’t news unless he is supporting someone new.
Do we report about Steve Ballmer or Tim Cook’s approval ratings? No. Because it doesn’t matter. It’s not news. Stop giving Musk attention he doesn’t deserve. We shouldn’t be talking about him. He craves the spotlight. Don’t give it to hin
Because they have lots of money and influence among the 18-35 demographic. Would I prefer if news corps didn't cover their every move and thought? Yeah I would, but unfortunately news featuring Musk and Swift gets clicks which drives advertising.
Yep, it's not like we can vote him out.
You must be new. This is America we are talking about.
Orrrrr and hear me out. He's just such an amazing genius that he's pissing off democrats as that's the only thing that appeals to republicans. All of this to trick repubs away from their "my truck only does gas you soy boys" minds and into buying evs since the democrats have already been saturated. Wild conspiracy here!
Do you really think all Democrats already have EVs? Because while they're surely the most likely to buy them, they're now also decidedly less likely to buy Tesla. So your "amazing genius" actually just alienated his biggest market demographic.
Elon Musk is a fucking idiot who has done more than anyone else in history to disprove the idea of Billionaire Exceptionalism.