Kind of.
Harris: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/kamala_harris/412678
Sanders: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/bernard_sanders/400357
There are some who voted ideologically closer. But the fact that she’s somewhere between Sanders and Warren is reassuring.
That's a crazy helpful site. Thanks for sharing.
that website is very sus because it paints democrats who voted against gay marriage; supported anti-gay federal service members; voted for inescapable student loans; supported segregationists; etc. as only slightly more liberal than democrats that never did those things.
i bet they either skewed the x axis or weighted some votes to get the graph to look like a continuum instead of a few distantly separated clouds.
NYEHH!
Jk, yeah, this site is amazing, thanks.
the desperate mud slinging from the GOP is going to be hilarious. i'll never forget when they tried to shit on AOC because she was caught gasp dancing in some student project music video.
and god-fucking-forbid anyone ever tends bar for money
They're just mad that she's an attractive young POC
They’re just mad
that she’s an attractive young person of colourIt’s all manufactured outrage. In reality they don’t give a fuck since they are all dead inside. It’s the tan suit scandal all over again. If they have zero qualms with Melania being a former nude model and Trump’s infidelity then them being mad about someone dancing is all just theatrics. It means they have nothing on her.
Scandalous! clutches pearls
What the fuck, is that a woman having fun? Dems are absolute degenerates, unbelievable. She's smiling. What is wrong with you people?
I'm surprised Project 2025 doesn't call for a ban on dancing.
Maybe there are parts even they don't feel comfortable disclosing yet
What was Boebert doing before she got her GED at like 30?
Doesn't matter, the GOP are hypocrites; Rules for thee but not for me.
Escort work.
Sex work is work 😤
You're totally ignoring that she had her hair done and stuff
Whore!
I already love their crying haha. Its so funny
is this true? I know nothing about US politics, but everything I hear from/about Bernie makes him sound awesome.
As a fan of Bernie this fantastic news, I want to hug the scroll if it can be corroborated.
I would imagine it depends a lot on how you quantify things, there's all sorts of procedural votes and "renaming a post office" bills with no real substance that you could reasonably argue should or shouldn't be included, to say nothing of ranking the partisan quality of different legislation (like, if Sanders and Harris both voted the same way in a routine budget bill that got unanimous support, should that count the same as them voting the same on some legislation he sponsored that failed or something?).
That all said, this CNN article I found from 2020 makes it sound more true than not, but there's some nuance - tl;dr, at the start of her career as a state AG she did some more conservativ-ish things, but she's been consistently more and more progressive since then.
My personal opinion is that she's willing to change her positions a lot if she thinks that's where voters are going, which isn't perfect, but it's a lot better than the last generation of Democratic leaders who are also willing to change their positions a lot but think voters are way more conservative than they actually are (because that generation is still stuck in the 1980s). Kamala didn't start talking about Medicare for All until Bernie made it popular, but when he did she didn't have a problem jumping on board (unlike Biden, who would only ever go as far as public option).
Pretty close to it, yeah.
Sanders is more of a populist and idealist, while Harris is more pragmatic. Sanders has voted against a lot of things that were 95% positive because they had 5% awful shit, while Harris (and Warren, for that matter) would tend to vote for them to get policy points through. That means that while Sanders remains 'pure', Harris (and, again, Warren) end up being more effective.
Bernie is pushing for what is standard governmental procedures in areas of Europe like France, Germany, Sweden, or Norway
Mostly. She didn't quite make that mark but she is between Sanders and Warren ideologically.
Should be noted that these kind of statistics are typically heavily influenced by the sheer number of garbage bills like what to rename a post office. Specific major issues is more the problem actual voters have.
If the stats lean closer to Bernie's record than others (I'd have to do some research to see, but let's assume) then it's still more of an indication she'll be better than the others she's being compared to on major issues. Biden is on record saying he wouldn't sign a bill for universal healthcare, but he's still better than Trump overall.
Biden's quote had a qualifying statement to that iirc. Something about without tax support?
So it was technically saying he wouldn't support paying for universal healthcare on credit.
Buy, hey, he'll pay for the Gaza genocide on credit, so who cares about the details?
It also doesn't count progressive bills that died in committee before getting a real vote.
Oh shit is she a secret progressive???
She's a good person and a political pragmatist, who is willing to concede a point to gain ten. She has, like most intelligent adults, evolved farther and farther left to embrace reality.
(While those in the the Wrong Wing cling to their assorted bigotries and boogiemen, as they lose all grip on sanity and embrace a venal madman as their Savior.)
For what it's worth, I've helped her in a retail context and she was the good kind of customer.
Damn. A good customer in a retail setting. Now that's how I know someone's an actual good person. Having worked like 10 years of retail front line, that alone make me want to vote for her more. Lol.
For what it's worth, I've helped her in a retail context and she was the good kind of customer.
Not that I needed more reason than "let's not have fascism", but that's a big endorsement to me.
She was never secret about it. She just got painted as a hard conservative in the 2020 primaries.
Not exactly secret, most of the stuff progressives find objectionable are basically just she had a job that progressives attach to systemic problems and didn't throw her career away by not doing it to be a better progressive.
This has to be verified. Like if this is true, then this can be one of the main messages. No?
I'm all for Kamala. What the coconut refers to.
Source?
Am I crazy to think he'd be a great VP pick?
Crazy? No. The timing and optics would be wrong since Sanders wouldn't help Harris' campaign play to its advantages. Finding younger candidates with consistent and (hopefully) progressive records, who aren't currently targets for the Right, and who hold little political baggage, is a better play.
By the same reasoning I think Newsom and Buttigieg aren't good picks even though they'd do well in the role. The new Dem Pres campaign should make sure the Right's propagandists have to work hard at effective attack ads. Running any Left-Wing Face misses this initiative.
For context: I'm still bitter about Bernie being pushed out of previous Presidential campaign runs, still think he was the best choice both times, and know he'd make a great VP.
The age is still an issue. He would be better as an advisor of some kind.
Primary goal for the DNC has to be to distance themselves as much as possible from the age issue. I'm not saying it will be someone young, we're not getting someone like under 45ish, but priority has to be on getting someone who at least comes across as relatively youthful comparatively.
I mean, if people think kamala is very progressive then yes. Age and policy wise. The VP should net you votes you might not otherwise get. A Midwestern pick or similar would probably do well.
She needs to find her Biden just like Obama did
AOC would be a much better pick.
I am a green man standing in shallow water, throwing a scroll.
Closer than Bernie himself?
I don't think that is how statistics work.. but ok.
It's cute that you still think the Sanders trolls care about Bernie Sanders.
Man I was so frustrated being called a "bernie bro" when more Bernie supporters turned out for Hillary Clinton, including me, than did Hillary Clinton supporters turn out for Barack Obama in 2008. I was tired when national head-to-head polling consistently showed Bernie Sanders outperforming Hillary against Donald Trump. Yet was shoved aside by the same sort of folks who insisted without merit that Biden should stay in the race. Quite literally some of the same people, including former Clinton strategists or the former DNC Chair, Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Even feminist leaders like Steinem and Albright claiming young women were just with Bernie because of the boys in a painfully ironic attack... It showed their true colors. The same bullshit patronizing platitudes. Alas, I am quite shocked Democrats actually organically adapted to new data. I'm honestly thrilled.
Don't get me wrong, I know there were trolls; I know there were astroturfers, and it got far worse in 2020. But anyone who actually went to a Bernie rally and conversed with real supporters knew that campaign was the most organic vibrant loving community since Obama's first run, if not more so. Alas, we missed an opportunity.
I would then go on to support Elizabeth Warren in 2020; I would ultimately then go on to vote for Biden.
I am quite happy with her record matching Bernie. Seems like a good sign. I'll be supporting Harris and I'm HOPING Mark Kelly as her running-mate.
HOPING Mark Kelly as her running-mate.
Only foreign skin in the game here but I think he'd be a great choice. If America voted against a Harris / Kelly ticket in favour of the other two gobshites I'd have a total meltdown. I really like America. C'mon guys. Don't let me down.
See also, Jill Stein and Cornel West enthusiasts.
Coconut? Is she from Hawaii?
Her
momdad is CaribbeanHer dad is Carribbean.
Her dad is Jamaican- American, her mom is Indian
She isn't very charismatic though, so it'll be hard to win with her as the DNC primary
"Biden is too old and incoherent. He will lose."
"Harris is not charismatic. She will lose."
Can't wait to hear why whoever it is will lose if for some reason it isn't Harris.
