How do you guys cope with the fact that the world isn't getting any better?
I'm really worried about the state of the US despite being a white male who was I'll coast right through it. I'll also accept "I don't" and "very poorly" as answers
It does, but it's accomplished that over the past century by prioritizing short term growth, long term consequences be damned.
As those debts are starting to come due to collect, while it is still accurate to say that there's been an unprecedented good run, that doesn't mean the fast approaching wall ahead that has everyone else worried is a mirage either.
In the past we could say that humanity is still doing terrible things but becoming better in the larger picture.
Back then it was hopeful to think like this because the things we did were terrible but not long lasting.
The problem now is that the terrible things we are capable of are now world changing and can affect us globally .... climate change, nuclear war, AI technology, biological experimention (or even biological warfare)
50 years ago we had the capability of making decisions or choices that could cost the lives of millions ..... now our decisions and choices are capable of affecting the survival of our species on this planet.
I also rejoice that the largest generation of terrible people will all be dying off in the next 20 years, and the millennials will be taking over control.
Every generation has its psychopaths and psychopaths tend to pursue power. I wouldn't put my hopes in millennials any more than in boomers. I'm happy to be wrong on this though.
I just don't expose myself to the 24h news cycle very much. My life is good, the life of the people around me is good, and nobody is helped by worrying about things I can't change.
Absolutely the way to go. Everyone in my circle is doing better than they were 5-10 years ago. My outlook could be better if my country decided to nope out, uproot itself and settle somewhere sub-tropical, far away from the Russian border we now share, but since I am considering emigrating after finishing training anyway, I don’t worry about that too much.
I remember well the constant fear of nuclear war in the 1980's.
I remember the wonder we felt when the Berlin Wall fell and Soviet Union collapsed. A hope of a tomorrow free of fear.
I remember the dreadful recession of the early 1990's and the steep economical rise that followed it.
I remember the amazing advancements in technology and the standard of living in the late 1990's. And at the same time, it felt like the world was coming to it's senses.
I was 21 in the year 2000. The world was full of promise, technological advancements were just pouring in, old mortal enemies were finding common ground and it seemed that we were slowly heading towards a Star Trek - like post scarcity utopia.
This age of hope eneded by the finance crisis of 2007-2008. Russia tried the waters with the war in Georgia. The general atmosphere of the world turned towards gloom again. And the downward spiral just seems to keeps going and going....
Yet I continue the work I started when I chose teaching as my profession in those golden years of hope. The kids are very different today, any class from 20 years ago would be a piece of cake compared with the problems they have now. But if a change for the better is to come, it will come from the kids. My generation is hopelessly lost in consumer greed and watching mindless "reality" shows that they somehow feel more important than real life.
I alone cannot be the change we need, but I CAN educate a few hundred kids and with good luck, maybe a dozen or few of them will have a some effect for a better future.
Idk sounds to me like you are the change we need. You're investing your energy into the future without asking for selfish repayment.
You're good people.
From my perspective you are still keeping that hope of a better future alive and burning, nurturing it in the hearts and minds of the young, allowing it to grow strong in a protected environment.
You are EXACTLY what the world needs right now.
So thank you Internet friend.
By realizing that it IS getting better. We live in a world now where information has exploded out of control. What this means is that we now know exactly what's going on everywhere, and it turns out that's a lot of shit.
That shit was still happening, but until fairly recently it was just out of the picture. The average person didn't know about any of it , couldn't do anything about it anyway, and thus it didn't really impact them.
Fast forward to today you hear of tragedies ALL THE TIME. Bad shit happening to good people for seemingly no reason. The difference here is that you just happen to know about it. The objective truth is that bad shit happens less today than it did at any other time in history. We just see every instance of it, not just our local community instances.
When all the bad information from the news begins to bombard me, I think back to March 2020, when the pandemic hit full swing. That might seem odd to some because many would argue that was the spark that set of the series of events that got us here. However what I see now, years later, with a bit of perspective, it was an amazing time. For the first time in human civilization almost our entire species focused in on one task and overall succeed. An existential threat to our entire way of life emerged, most people got on board and we avoided the absolute worst.
We're not meant to process all the bad things that happen in the world every day. Our primate brains are meant for small communities, not international events. Perhaps the pandemic isn't OPs thing or yours to think about, but I'll bet that almost everyone has some memory that gives them hope. Think about it, hold into it. A hopeful thing happened once, it'll happen again.
This is definitely true. A lot of people fucked around during COVID and made aspects of it worse, but they would have probably done that anyway. Overall, we did a very impressive job worldwide in managing the crisis.
If you ever think the world is shit, disconnect. Turn off the news, get off social media, spend a week interacting with your local community only. You'll see people can be pretty awesome, and you can make a very real impact in the world by helping your local community.
Well as the saying goes, ignorance is bliss. Honestly, I think its healthy to takes breaks from the news and social media if world news is getting you down, just focus on the things that you can control in your life.
I use to think like that in my 20s. But the truth is right now, it's definitely not getting better. I teach in college/univ and the amount of ignorance and entitlement I've seen in the past couple of years is alarming. Elon Musk and Andrew Tates are the role models for many young men now, there is a masculinity crisis and it's affecting everyone.
Maybe it's just because of the people I'm around, but it feels like society's concepts of both masculinity and femininity have continued improving. There are of course the Tate acolytes, but they seem as much like the gasp of a dying ideology as anything. Not sure about Musk, that particular brand of personality cult prosperity gospel never seems to really go out of style.
That was already around. You had the toxic masculine movie stars of the 70s-2000s. Soldiers and fighters have been glorified since the times we've had soldiers and fighters. The only difference there is a wider audience. You also have an increasing number of reasonable voices out there reaching a broader and broader audience too. Violent crimes are consistently down, we just see all that there is.
I don't want to be rude but you really should not continue teaching (at least in the same way) if you are that repulsed or disconnected from your students.
Students will always have different priorities and mindsets than their teacher would like them to have, and most times they'll be wrong; it's a part of life in acads. Most of these youngsters have had very little exposure to the world and it is bound they'll make mistakes. That's what school is for. And they will certainly not remain the same, just like anyone from your generation as well, when they get older.
You cannot just get into teaching and not expect delinquency, that's not how it works. Just focus on getting the subject matter of whatever you're teaching through their heads and ensure everyone understands the concepts, the "bad" idealogues will eventually get sorted out themselves.
Many people in here arguing things "have never been better". It's true to an extent; things are pretty good in terms of poverty, liberties or world peace (for now). It's not great, it's never been great, but it's a decent bit better than it's been in the past. Overall.
We are, however, in an era of unstability and unrest, where it feels like things are constantly on the cusp of changing for the worse (and in some cases, are indeed already changing for the worse, like abortion or LGBT rights in the US, for example). Violence and discrimination are on the rise, global peace is being threatened, democracy is in jeopardy (not just in the US mind you), the 1% are getting WAY richer way faster than ever... To top it all off, climate change is objectively, unarguably as bad as it's ever been, and it's getting much much worse, much faster than even experts can keep up with. Like, we're headed straight for extinction and we keep accelerating toward it.
You have every right to be worried. Yes, it's easy to forget and take for granted the things we have now that we didn't even a mere 60 years ago, but many of them are very much under attack at the moment. Just because shit maybe hasn't quite yet hit the fan doesn't mean everything is fine.
And to answer your question, I've found some refuge in art, both experiencing and creating it. Reading books, watching movies, playing games, etc, especially those that echo that sentiment of fear and uncertainty for the future (or present). Trying to use all that as inspiration for my own work, I think it'd help to express my feelings this way. I am indeed doing very poorly still though, it's a lot to deal with, on top of my own personal problems.
LGBTQ rights in the US are, generally speaking, progressing.
climate change
I don't think doom and gloom is warranted with climate change. Many countries have long reached peak CO2. The goal now is net zero. Rich nations also need to pony up to help developing nations that haven't already spewed a ton of CO2 into the air as part of development. Unfortunately, that's looking to be difficult with internal politics in the rich countries.
Some of the progress at the recent COP18 looks to be possible ground breaking. The methane related agreements in particular could be enormously beneficial. They could decrease the amount of methane released or burned off as part of fossil fuel extraction significantly. Methane has a relatively low half life, so it will cycle out of the atmosphere faster than CO2.
I don’t think doom and gloom is warranted with climate change. Many countries have long reached peak CO2. The goal now is net zero. Rich nations also need to pony up to help developing nations that haven’t already spewed a ton of CO2 into the air as part of development. Unfortunately, that’s looking to be difficult with internal politics in the rich countries.
This is like standing on the deck of the titanic and being like “meh, we have already scraped by most of the iceberg, so we are fine”.
The damage is done, look at global sea surface temperatures they are off the charts. We could stop everything now and things would still be spiraling out of control climate wise and I am sorry but that is just the reality of it :(
Humanity will probably realize we seriously fucked up around 2050 and near the end of the century mass migration will lead to a death count much bigger than WW2 or the chinese civil wars.
The only grace is that most of us reading this thread will die from various reason before the second stage.
I will still do my part by reducing my CO2 footprint but unless we find some miracle technology producing nuclear power plant levels of energy for the cost of a charcoal power plant, shitty world leaders and corporations will ruin everything for fake wealth.
The technology already exists mate. Solar and wind are waaaay quicker to spin up than nuclear.
It's a lack of political will due to entrenched industry buying out the political parties.
Solar on itself works between a few less than 8 hours and 16 hours depending on the solstice you are the nearest of.
And that's the theorical best.
Reality is efficiency will drop during summer because of the record temperatures each year and in winter we are seeing more sun (Haven't seen snow in 7-8 years btw) but the production is still relatively low.
If you want it to run 24h/24, you need to build batteries which adds more carbon and cost. And that's on top of the maintenance cost for the panels themselves.
Wind can work 24h/24 but you cannot predict it long term.
Wind too strong? We stop the plant. Wind too weak? Subpar production. And with climate change, your expectations on a few years basis can change very rapidly.
So how do you make sure we produce the same amount of energy with certainty? You build oversized farms more expensive than what you theorically predicted.
There is also the problem of land.
A wind or solar power farm requires a lot of land comparatively to nuclear if you want to approach the same power production.
That land can be occupied instead for housing, farming or anything else.
Comparatively, a nuclear plant can easily be circled in a few minutes by foot and produce over 1 Tera Watt of energy.
Once you compound everything, nuclear is the best solution we have at our current technology level but ridiculous anti-nuclear propaganda acts like it is a thing from the demon.(My green party almost closed several nuclear power plants. During the start of the russian war. To open gas power plant instead. Like WTF?).
So what will the rich people do?
Refuse to build nuclear because their fearmongering to push gas/oil backfired on humanity and refuse to build solar/wind because we could build 50 Disneylands in the same area.
I would love them to eat their shit and choose either solution still. But it's only a dream.
I'm going to address your question in two ways it may be read.
The world is worse than it was
I completely disagree, I think the world has never been better. Look back even 70 years and you have the threat of cold war, other wars (Korean War, conflicts in Vietnam, Cambodia, Middle East, ...), much more poverty, starvation (China's Great Famine), illiteracy, a lot more nasty pollutants that we've since moved away from.
To go a bit more US-centric, although much of this is mirrored elsewhere to varying degrees, you had much, much higher crime rates (possibly due to lead in gasoline), women could be raped by their husbands and had minimal rights, gay people were persecuted, black people were killed for fun (lynchings) along with other deplorable treatment, etc.
Right now you live in a world where practically all information is available at your fingertips at minimal cost, where most people will at least tolerate your presence even if you don't fit neatly into their ideal world, where we've made a lot of progress on limiting and reversing environmental damage (ozone layer). We have more medical cures & treatments, longer lifespans, greater nutrition, more education, incredible entertainment options (Netflix, Steam, YouTube, etc.).
The world is better than it ever was, but the pace of improvement has slowed / gone stagnant
Yeah I get the anxiety, things do seem more unstable than they were 10 years ago. I'm super thankful to be living in our so-far-the-best age but I don't take for granted that it can stay wonderful. Much of the benefits we now enjoy were hard-won victories that required hard work, and I suspect that to keep making the world a better place it'll require us to pay it forward by also working hard. But don't take it for a given that we're due for pain and conflict; human events are too complex to follow simple narratives and it's possible in 5 years we'll all be relaxed and thankful that these current problems fizzled out.
TLDW: No, things are getting better, some things aren't, but it's not an easy answer because there are 8 billion perspectives to consider. We are living longer and enjoy more technology, so there's that.
I'll watch later. I hope it isn't the same thing as Steven Pinker's "things are better than ever".
I'm also going to disagree on the "things make us happier" argument as well. Because if you're only getting things because they flaunt your wealth, it isn't making you happier.
I recommended it because .. I had just began listening to it then scrolled and saw this post, but also because I admire his critical thinking skills; he could have put out an hour long video of himself running around and screaming over clips of looting and earthquakes while warning us about the apocalypse and which loadout to run...
But he didn't. He created a criteria to answer the question then looked at available data. He could have gotten 2x more views, too..
I'm also going to disagree on the "things make us happier" argument as well. Because if you're only getting things because they flaunt your wealth, it isn't making you happier
Where did they say that?
They said we can enjoy more technology than ever before. That is 100% true.
Do you know how much joy I feel when I watch my little vacuum robot zoom around my house keeping it clean for me? It is so cool and makes me happier living in a cleaner environment.
The pandemic is an interesting case because the world stopped because millions of people died. In the past that was normal. Spanish Flu sucked just as hard but people were like "oh well, try not to die".
Every family literally lost one or two children each in normal times. Look at any history of your family and 100 years ago you will see lots of relatives that died at young ages of diseases that are preventable now.
We live in an age of unprecedented health and death is an outlier. It used to be a part of everyday life.
Be the change you want to see. I switched things up and took a job where I work to feed hungry people. It's pretty great and I feel good about myself and what I do. I'm not gonna fix the whole world, but I am making a difference for those who I reach.
Fascists took over my country, and now they use a devestating attack as an excuse to start a total war that might evolve to world war, while the rest of the world sees our country as a "faschist genocide machine" our own citizens oppose it, and suffer from it, but still being fooled by propaganda.
I avoid the news, if it's important one of my friends or family will tell me. Also, if something is going on but isn't actionable (I can't do anything about it) I try not to let it occupy much of my headspace.
I would argue that most measures are generally trending upward, and have been for a long while. The big difference is that now people spend their lives looking at negative ragebait articles.
This is my approach as well. If I can't change it I don't let it occupy my mind. I focus on actions I can take to make things better/mitigate problems for myself and the people I care about and that's it.
I too think that this is the correct approach. I mean if you can't change something, you can make a decision to either let it drag you down, or avoid it. I always try not to focus on negativity and I don't like drama.
Granted, this isn't always easy. And I don't know if this applies to (for example) the political situation and society in the US. I can't relate to that too much. I mean there is so much populism and I don't know what I'd do if half of my neighbors were in the mindset to vote for right-wing a-holes, there were hundreds of school shootings each year, my medication was unaffordable to me and women's reproductive rights were cancelled. I mean you can't really 'avoid' that. I don't want to bash the USA but it's somewhat beyond my own reality. I struggle with other things in my life. But all of that isn't my achievement. I was simply born someplace else.
I don't cope, I go out of my way to *make it better: I volunteer my free time to hand out food at any of those food shelter events locally, I walk trails with a trash bag and collect trash, I care for my elderly neighbors by visiting them a few times a month without warning and insist they find me a job to help them around their house and refuse payments (but suggest I accept a piece of candy as compensation), I use my turn signals 100 meters before I make my turns when driving, I call my old friends who live abroad just to remind them I care about them if they aren't feeling good and they can always talk to me. Etc, etc.
Everyone should just ignore the eternal dumpster fires around them and try to make better as much as they can within their local vicinity.
I'm pretty sure long covid and climate chaos will put a stop to that soon enough but we'll see. For now, some stuff is getting worse and some stuff is getting better.
Depends on perspective. Ask my grandma who lives through the second world war whether it is better or worse. Our modern problem seem trivial to her comparing having no non-bombed house, very little food and very little way of taking care of her family.
Yeah take the long view and realize 100 years ago TB would be a major cause of death, prohibition would be in full force and the Mob would be powerful, we'd be 5 years post-WWI, 6 years from the Great Depression, and 16 years from WWII.
Reminds me of that Doctor Who christmas special with the soldier. "Now let's get you back to your first World War" - "What do you mean, FIRST World War?!?!!" - "Oh. Sorry. Spoilers."
Read the last paragraph on page 3. Things are not getting worse. Your perception of the world around you is cynical as a by product of our evolution and saturation of news/media.
This is 11 years old. There has been an objective uptick in white nationalism, going beyond trajectory to repair climate, consolidation of wealth, "inflation" inflated prices for less goods through record profits, irrelevant and biased unemployment data from gig economy and partial employment without healthcare, debt, renters, etc
There's data on every one of those. Don't gaslight people, these aren't feelings or biased perceptions.
The industrialized West has the (massively significant and impactful) benefits of creature comforts from bread and circuses. But as those dwindle, a population losing their mind from the current level of discomfort (and snowflakedom) is going to full on implode.
They're electing autocrats around the globe bc they're scared of getting injections, wearing masks, and the feelings in their pants when they look at sexy members of their own gender.
Exactly. Look at any graph from the last 50-100 years from live births to life expectancy, from crime rates to living standards: life is objectively better and better, at least in the Western world.
Stop feeding yourself with negativity all day long. Grab a beer, watch a movie, go hiking with your friends etc. Do this regularly without reading too much "news" and you'll feel it soon enough.
It very much varies depending on where you look, but your timescale is skewing your comparison. If you were to look at the Japanese economy today compared to the past 50-100 years, it would look like everything is amazing because of the massive economic boom in the 80s. But that only lasted about a decade before stagnating for the past 30-40 years, and that stagnation has become so bad that Japan is very much at risk of deflation destroying their economy. The life expectancy in the US has fallen several years in a row since COVID.
There have been major improvements in society in the past century, but that means little to the man who can't afford insulin anymore because the pharmaceutical company decided to increase the price by 1,000% because the US government won't do anything to stop them, or the millions of Americans saddled with absurd amounts of college debt that will even follow them through bankruptcy - the only form of debt that does - because they changed the laws in the past 15 years to ensure that it does. In the US, generations post Baby Boomers are objectively doing worse than their predecessors across many aspects used to measure quality of life - largely those related to finances in any way, shape, or form. I just watched a video about the infantilisation of Millennial women that spent a long time talking about how the entire generation's inability to hit the same metrics considered for "success/adulthood" in life compared to their parents has given rise to stuff like the use of "adult" as a verb instead of a noun (adulting - a thing you do on occasion instead of a thing you are).
Noteworthy quotes from the video relevant to this discussion:
There are arguably four main markers that constitute traditional adulthood: housing, finances, marriage and parenthood, and agency.
According to a 2021 study in the US, Millennials had the lowest home ownership rate of any adult generation. Only 43% of Millennials were homeowners, well below the average of 65%.
There's been an almost 15% rise in the number of non-dependent adult children living at home in the past decade. About 30% of 25 to 29 year olds now live with their parents and more than one in ten adult children age 30 to 34 do.
According to Forbes, 52% of non home-owning Millennials aren't saving for a down payment. And of these, many cite underpaying jobs or joblessness as the reason. So it isn't just that homeownership is becoming a reality for Millennials later in their life than the previous generations, because for many it isn't considered a reality at all.
It's not exactly news, but it is worth including that wage stagnation and rising house prices mean the income levels and therefore purchasing power of the average Millennial is much less than it was even a couple of decades ago. According to reporting from the Urban Institute, those earning the median income in the US or below can only afford 20% of the properties on sale in the US. Compare that to the roughly 50% of homes that they would be able to afford in 2016, and you can see the pattern here. And this is especially impactful to those on minimum wage.
According to 2019 research by the Economic Policy Institute, the federal minimum wage was worth 17% less than in 2009 and 31% less than in 1968. If minimum wage had kept pace with productivity since 1968, it would now be $24 an hour instead of $7.25. And we see this across the Millennial experience. Hobbies become side hustles as the need to monetize spare time to keep up with the rising costs of living means salaries aren't enough anymore.
Journalist Sarah Hayford investigated the birth rate in the US across the decades and found "After the highs of the baby boom in the mid-20th century and the lows of the baby bust in the 1970s, birth rates were relatively stable for nearly 50 years. But during the Great Recession, from 2007-2009, birth rates declined sharply - and they've kept falling. In 2007, average birth rates were right around 2 children per woman. By 2021, levels had dropped more than 20%, close to the lowest level in a century."
Finances of course play into this. Weddings are expensive and children even more so. In America, without access to a nationalized health service, even birth itself can be unaffordable. According to the Kaiser Family Foundation, labour costs on average are more than $4,500 per childbirth even if you're insured and the price of maternity and newborn surgeries has risen by 60% over the past decade. That's not to mention childcare costs.[...]One survey of almost 600 millennials found that nearly three in five of those without children said they didn't have any because of their financial situation.
Figures from the Office of National Statistics in England and Wales showed that only 213,000 heterosexual couples had married that year, down more than 50% since the peak in 1972. The number of 25 to 35 year olds who are unmarried had more than doubled since 1991.
Adulthood is often perceived through the lens of you "leaving the nest" - when someone goes out into the world and makes a life independent of their parents; no longer living at home, depending on family income, or being under their parents' control. Adulthood in this way is marked by a kind of agency and competence that you don't have as a child or teen. You can make your own decisions, create a life for yourself that's built around your own sense of self and your own values. The three previous markers of adulthood I talked about - stable housing outside your family home, healthy finances, marriage and parenthood - they're all linked. They interweave and compound each other. They allow a sense of this adult independence and agency; but once one drops off, the others come tumbling down as well. If you have no stable place to live, no stable income, no stable sense of family, what does a stable sense of adult self look like?
The rest of the video isn't really relevant to this topic, but it's an interesting watch with a good perspective on the experience of Millennial women so I'll link it here. It even has stuff like a section about how all this affects queer women specifically and how the LGBTQ+ community has a different sense of time compared to cis/hetero people due to the environment they grow up in.
Burying one's head in the ground is a terrible response. If everyone were to do that, nothing will ever get better. We need to be aware of the things we can change and work towards that goal.
Also, living longer is not always better. Go visit a memory care facility or a person who has been brought back from the brink of death only to prolong his suffering.
The snark it is strong, I can't hold it in today. I have to say, yeah, and the world economy, particularly the U.S. housing market, was incredible in 2006. Okay, that out of the way, for perspective:
The standard of living for most of the world has declined in the past couple of years, and the trend seems likely to continue.
We don't have enough water in the U.S. Some of that subsidy that makes food artificially cheap is in the form of fossil water from rapidly-depleting aquifers, or surface waters that are facing long-term decline, like the Colorado River. The populous western United States was settled during a relative wet period, which is drying out. It only seems abundant now because we're not conserving it for the future.
The odds of dying to violence seem poised to increase dramatically in the very near future, what with conflicts emerging around the world threatening to turn into regional wars, the prospect of climate migration and contention over resources (especially water) increasing conflicts, and the real prospect of the collapse of democratic government in the U.S. As for disease, the infectious disease experts tell us that the prospects for another global pandemic in the coming years are good.
The means exist to visit any place on Earth in a matter of hours, true, but they are not equally available to all people.
Civil rights are under active attack and in steep decline.
The year in which the number of books published exceeded the number than a human could possibly read occurred centuries ago. The abundance of entertainment options is really a non-sequitur to quality of life.
All in all, I agree that we have had it pretty good for the past 70 years, and we should not forget that. But let's also not breezily dismiss the looming disasters we face, because if the world were a Titanic metaphor, we've just hit the iceberg. The buffet is still laid out, the band is still playing, the lights are on, and the champagne is still bubbling, but it'd be ridiculous to dismiss fellow passengers' anxiety.
I agree with all of this whole heartedly. I particularly like the titanic metaphor.
It seems absurd to me to say that "things are going great! we have abundant food & water!". Science is telling us very clearly that water scarcity is going to be a huge problem in the near future.
We're presently living through a mass extinction event also - very concerning as regards food stocks.
Some might say that "your perspective is distorted." things are incredible for the top 10% of the socio-economic scale and getting better by most metrics (do not look at the numbers for maternal and infant mortality).
The average person in a G7 state today lives better than kings of old.
We in G7 countries have abundant water, food, and sanitation. In America, food is so subsidized that it is ridiculously cheap by historical standards.
Your odds of dying to violence or disease have never been lower in all of human history unless you are one of the world's 100 million refugees, live in Africa (pop. 1400 m) or Central America (pop. 52.7 m), or in one of the world's 27 [1] current conflict zones (approx pop. 2800 m)... that's over 4 billion people or half of humanity
You have all human knowledge at your fingertips, and technology is expected to keep improving our lives in novel ways as long as you can afford it.
You can visit any place on Earth in a matter of hours if your passport permits you to do so and as long as there is jet fuel and have access to cheap exotic foreign goods which are unreliable, break easily, produce garbage, and are slowly killing the planet and its peoplr.
Civil rights are protected a lot more today than they were in many/most civilizations of the past unless you're trans-, or black, or a woman, or a black trans-woman.
Entertainment is abundant and cheap, and takes forms that people of the past could only dream about.
While we certainly have our incredibly massive, systemic challenges to overcome, like climate change (ha!), wealth inequality (ha ha!), and social problems (hahaha!), let's not forget how good we (when you say we, you certainly mean your ingroup) could have it if we tore down this corrupt edifice and built an efficient, sustainable, just world.
I'm doing good. I'm doing things that I enjoy, and I strive to improve. I believe we'll sort most of our shit out, it will never be even close to perfect, because we're dumb, materialistic, belligerent apes by nature, but it will be enough.
I look at the long arc of history and see that progress is not monotonic (always increasing or decreasing). We are experiencing setbacks to overcoming our challenges, as have those who came before us. But while we can read about years passing in a paragraph in a history book, we have to live and experience those years. And with all the challenges comes new technology and drive and awareness to solve problems. As unfortunate as it is trouble breeds innovation and commitment to change far better than comfort and easy times.
I deliberately avoided having kids and I don't have any particular existential dread, so I'm just sort of sitting back and bemusedly watching it all play out. I just read the latest bit about one or another obscenely wealthy and/or powerful blatant psychopath doing or saying something gibberingly insane and I marvel yet again at the fact that the world is run by literal lunatics and nobody seems to even notice.
And when it stops being cynically amusing, I shut it off and go do something else.
I find great comfort in history personally. Dan Carlin (a favorite podcaster of mine) always says we must grade history on a curve. Sure, to us it looks like everything is falling apart and existence is pointless. But by very real measures things are better than they have ever been. My favorite is violence against children has been normalized as being bad.
Within living memory it has gone from being completely socially acceptable to beat children as being the preferred method of parenting to people getting thrown in jail for that behavior. What does it mean that previous to 100 years ago all of society could have been considered battered children? We are extremely aware of the negative effects of violence against children and for the very first time we are seeing a generation raised in an environment that kind of behavior has carrots and sticks motivating parents to behave properly. Of course all manner of horrid things still happen, but I call it progress that it have become widely condemnable to beat a child with a stick or take them to public hangings. It's a small victory, but it gives me hope for the future. That we may yet still build a better human being capable of taking on the heroic task of fixing this world.
Further, history has shown to me low points that I am glad to have missed. I never knew how ghastly WWI was. I am currently in a warm bed and not in a trench filled with mud, flys, dead body parts, with shells exploding constantly, seconds away from needing to charge out into near certain death. But my great grandfather knew that feeling. He watched as whole generations of young men were gassed to death and blown up uselessly. The numbers who die in war are less now. Still tragic, but less. Again, we must grade on a curve.
Death, despair, and hopelessness may be in 8K live streamed constantly now, but I assure you the analog version was something to behold. Not saying the horror of the past makes living any easier now. It is not to minimize your own pain. I just find hope that others managed to break the back of an unshakable world and hope for a better one while surviving a suffering I have not yet known. I am made of the same stuff. That gives me strength.
Being the history nerd I am, I tell myself that this has happened before. Think of the Bronze Age Collapse or the Fall of Rome. For people who lived back then, it probably felt like the end of the world. But after many generations, they still managed to rebuild. I must keep going in order to document as much history as possible for future generations in the case that humanity survives all this crazy shit that is going on.
We still don't really know what caused the Bronze Age Collapse, just that it happened and that we survived it, though it took several centuries to rebuild. The Fall of Rome happened so slowly that it was nearly invisible. Hell, there are still a few countries out there claiming the "Emporer" title and all are valid successors of the title.
This thing that is happening now is different. We know what's causing it. We know how to stop it, we're just not. And it's coming at us. Super fast. Who knows if we will survive this?
Friend, we are nowhere near the Bronze Age Collapse or the Fall of Rome. Continue to document away, as that is a noble pursuit, but we are far closer to a Great Depression or Great War than total societal collapse. Yay!
It is getting better though. We are all just facing the issues of our era's.
Tech keeps going up, we are slowly making progress on climate change, the space race is back on, and superpowers don't directly fight eachother anymore. Hell, we've proven to beat once in a century pandemics in a few years with relatively speaking barely any deaths. Life's good
Yes, we have squabbles in the middle east and Africa, but that's par for the course and not an indicator for human development. The only thing that has really gone backwards is that war has been brought back to europe
The world is getting better. There are some setbacks, yes. But there are lots of normal people making the world a better place, like the guy who figured out how to make artificial glaciers with river water in India, or the guy who recently built a forest on arid land by refining local techniques in Burkina Faso. Things will be okay!
Some very good replies here. I share some of your worries, but with some recent issues I have also gotten a lot of practice seeing the good in things. Consider these 2 angles:
First is the Louis CK routine that includes “Everything is amazing and nobody is happy.” I think it comes down to humans getting used to things that work well and taking them for granted. Compared against most people who have ever lived, we are genius magical wizards who live in luxury. Unfortunately some of our magical technologies let us see the bad shit all around the world (and close to us) that our brains haven’t evolved to deal with.
Second is how absurdly unlikely and unique the existence of our consciousness seems. We are a collection of atoms forged in inconceivably massive exploding stars billions of years ago, aware of its own existence. We are literally the universe experiencing itself.
There are a lot of good news all the time.
For example: I'm pro veganism and always heard that vegans make up about 2% of the population. Recently I heard that specifically in my city about 8% are vegans. That's amazing!
I really hope veganism becomes more widely adopted, or at the very least less derided than it is today. Animal agriculture is one of if not the biggest contributor to so many global issues.
I chose to leave after Trump got in office—& it took like two years of planning/saving. It’s had real ups & downs but overall the best major life decision I’ve made.
Sadly, I have taken moves to grow as much as I can, tend to chickens for eggs, and start just pulling back from my community because they are really terrible. Really, I should be building the community and mutual aid but the amount of people that care about nobody but themselves around here is just too high.
Much the same for us. The toxic attitudes here in Appalachia are shocking. We've sure tried to give back and make ties, but authentic ones have been exceedingly rare. Something awful in the zeitgeist here now that makes it nigh impossible for folks to get along for the simplest tasks/clubs/gatherings.
Life's pretty good here in Australia. No neighbours on the border causing problems, weather is generally good, lots of wide open empty nature to get out of the city, average salary is $93k and unemployment is low, crime is low. Inequality is a problem although our Gini coefficient has actually lowered recently. There's a lot of life to enjoy, and really the endless stream of negativity is only experienced through the media, not in real life, so I switched off the TV and just focus on what's going on around me, enjoying the people, places and activities that I like, and things feel quite positive.
Personally I am not really worried. Maybe I am in denial but I think a lot of the negative stuff is way over exposed with 24/7 news cycle and crazy social media.
Bad news and anger drive engagement metrics the best so that is all you will hear about.
So everything I hear I just automatically assume it is way over blown and I should lower the worry factor.
If it is getting overwhelming I would recommend you unplug yourself for a little while and do something you enjoy.
2023 has some amazing games come out maybe pick on of those up and give it a try?
Using an analogy, somewhere along the road we came from "your lips will look nice with this lipstick" to "I can't leave a house without a lipstick on". And raising awareness about issues is basically a marketing too. It has to be in order to make it through to you among all the other noise. It's just that this time it's not you who are not thin/tall/curvy/vibrant/... enough, it's the world that is not safe/happy/wealthy/just enough. I'm not saying that it's not true but this has a side effect that when you are overstimulated with the ads and news, it does feel like the world is going to end.
Think about what would really have to happen to purge us all, 100%. Even climate change, I don't think could do it. 90% maybe, and sure that would be a change in our world. But still not the end of it. I can't find the paper now, but we only need something like 1000 random people to survive in order to have enough genetic diversity for the species to survive. Something would have to wipe us all at once to really kill us. Otherwise, we'll just adapt and carry on.
And if not. Welp, that's a chance for the UFOs to thrive. It's not like humanity is required for the wheels to keep turning
I try my best to understand it better and change the little things I can. I know that won't change the world much so it isn't very fulfilling. Anyways I often think "at least it wasn't my fault and I tried".
In the same position as you, I'm quite privileged living here in Europe, if it all goes to shit I will be fine. I hope I can make the world more fair for everyone anyways.
Many good things have been said. I would add that what give me comfort is that in the present moment, it is really, really hard to tell signal from noise. You often don't know the impact of people or events until many years out. We often said in grad school that you can't write history until at least 30 years have passed from the event. So, it seems chaotic and confusing because it is hard to for us to understand what it important and what is not.
The other thing is that every generation often sees the sky as falling in. An ancient Greek philosophy lamented about his parents had it all figured out and his children where going to ruin everything. That same sense of doom is pretty pervasive.
That is not to dismiss any of the real terrible things out there. Climate change is the big problem on the horizon. Nuclear waste is another. But I think on the balance, we are going to muddle through fine. The great blessing of humanity is that we are adaptable. The curse of humanity is that we are adaptable.
I agree with you that climate change > nuclear waste. It is the poly-crisis that touches everything. And I agree that nuclear stuff can be overblown. Most of the time it is fine. But when it goes wrong, it REALLY goes wrong with long term consequences that stretch into tens of thousands of years. It will be dangerous longer than we have had writing or civilization. We will need to signal its danger beyond the current confines of human speech. I feel similarly about the idea of some forms of pollution which will affect places for thousands of years. The thing that gets me is the timescale.
I was watching a post-apocalyptic show the other day and started wondering: if society suddenly collapsed, what would happen to the nuclear power plants? I mean, I know that there are procedures to ramp them down but what then? How would you decommission a nuclear power plant without electricity? Without expertise? What would happen to all the nuclear weapons? I have always wondered if there are catastrophic scenario SOPs for these things.
Now, I have thought that if society does collapse, it will happen more gradually than suddenly. But this little thought exercise made me think that nuclear waste / nuclear energy is one thing that necessitates a certain level of knowledge, expertise, and energy to maintain. A certain level of civilization or modernization.
Again, I could be wrong and I'm willing to change my mind, but that is where I stand at the moment.
I'm spending the holidays with close and extended family. Most of them don't give a fuck about the climate crisis or gaza. They're very worried about migrants and wokism though. Feeling pretty alone right now...
That in the grand scheme of things none of this really matters. In 100 or 1000 or 10,000 year’s time there will have been just as much horrible stuff happening in the world whether I fret about it or not. Just as much rape, mutilation, disease, and killing either way. Historically things have been trending towards better, so I have to assume that trend will hold (despite what the news or the internet makes it seem like).
The only thing I can control is what I personally do or don’t do, so I can at least reduce it by that small infinitesimal amount by not doing bad things. I can also try to make the world slightly more bearable by trying to make people laugh, or at least help them enjoy themselves some, that’s a little bit more help. I also have three kids I hope I can raise well enough that they too try to not do bad things and also try to help those around them. Or maybe one of us will stumble upon something that just completely changes everything and all our problems go away, or it wipes out humanity, or we’re just waiting for Godot.
And while in the grand scheme of things nothing matters too much, we can at least make life a bit more bearable to those around us in the here and now. Because for us, the here and now is what matters the most, that’s all we can really know, this eternal moment until we die.
I'm not in a position to affect change in a powerful way. So I try to stay educated and informed, I vote at the ballot box, I vote with my wallet, I donate what I reasonably can to places where I think it will help, and I speak out when it's appropriate to do so.
There's tons of evidence that the world is getting better. Life expectancies are the highest they've ever been, disease is the lowest it's ever been, globalization is distributing opportunities for relative prosperity to previously ignored or neglected regions. The only thing that's not getting better right now is climate change but the youth care about that more than ever so it seems like we'll make headway on that once the old guard ends their watch. The youth are aldo much more progressive so with their ascent to power, I expect more power to return to the people and more scrutiny to befall the rich and powerful as it once was.
What sort of critical life and death issues are getting worse in your perspective?
The world is getting better in a lot of ways but the uplifting headlines don’t garner clicks and views. A lot of people only post the doom-and-gloom headlines.
Lemmy hasn’t been any better than Reddit in this regard.
I don't agree with the premise. The world on average is better than it has ever been and it just keeps getting better every year. It's understandable that heavy consumption of news might make it seem otherwise but virtually every metric you'd use to track this shows that things have been improving and keeps doing so.
As an overall metric, but some things have definitely gotten worse. The planet is on fire for instance. That's getting worse and we haven't even gotten into the really bad part.
As of 2022, more than half of the US' power was renewable. Within the country, Texas was the state with the 2nd highest solar generation and the single highest wind generation. Even if it isn't perfect, we are making a lot of progress on climate despite all of the pushback and anti-science rhetoric.
This year we deployed a CURE for sickle cell! Cured a congenital disease with gene editing. It’s hard to do and crazy expensive, but the end of suffering from this disease is actually in sight.
The mRNA vaccine tech that got a boost from Covid is now being used to cure certain melanoma cancers. This is a potential sea change in the fight against cancer.
More and more of our energy is coming from fully renewable sources. We are behind (way behind tbh) but humanity is actually moving the right direction at this point. We could honestly be seeing peak carbon in the next few years. The climate will change, probably already has, but we might actually survive this.
We’ve got problems, lots of them, and some pretty nasty. But you are almost certainly better off living today than just about any time in human history.
I feel like every time people say "yeah but it's overall getting better" is missing the first for the trees. Because, yeah, what about climate change? Or the general trends in global politics?
Pretty big topic but it's improving in most regards. Things may seem bleaker but that's because oil lobbyists have changed strategies from denying climate change outright to trying to convince people that it's hopeless. This in and of itself is progress.
Here's a smattering of other facts:
global co2 emissions have more or less flattened out over the last decade or so. Co2 emissions per capita peaked in 2012 or so and have been declining. Since most population decline is coming from the rich polluting nations and most population growth from developing nations we can expect this trend to accelerate.
the USA passed one of the biggest climate bills ever in 2020 and it is somewhat hard for it to be reversed. Here's a video that I think summarizes the good and the not so good of this bill.
many countries have realistic goals to ban ice cars, while evs are far from a perfect replacement they are undeniably significantly better for climate change than ices. There are also knock on effects, as car manufacturers phase out ice production emerging markets will have a harder time getting ice cars, and as such will almost certainly develop less car dependent infrastructure. This also applies to essentially all infrastructure projects.
It is not too late, and for the first time, we are actually starting to win.
Got news for you, if you're working class, being white or male will not let you "coast right through" the inevitable boom/bust cycles that will befall the economies. You'll be under the boot like everyone else.
“I wish it need not have happened in my time,” said Frodo. “So do I,” said Gandalf, “and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”
Worry without action is of no tangible use. If you just worry, ACT!
Ah yes, me, the demigod who can act up on all my worries. Tell me again my plan to get trump to fuck off the 2024 election?
Not to be too sarcastic at you, it's a good sentiment that I do sort of agree with, but it places too much "you can do anything" blame on the observer who literally is already worried. Aka, this runs a major risk of demotivating people straight into doomerism when they're faced with worries there's really nothing that they individually can do about.
Unless I'm wrong and there is some legitimate answer to that sarcastic opening question that I, individually, can do about it, in which case, I'm all ears lol
I was sort of in the same boat, although in Canada. We had our own set of different, also serious issues that were not getting any better. I couldn't see any way to do anything about it myself, or even secure myself an OK life in the country.
So, I emigrated. Just like so many generations of my family before me, from their various home countries. I'm not sure if I'm up to the task of making the whole world better, but at least I can move somewhere where I can be productive enough to make things locally better (for myself and perhaps even a few others).
As a Canadian, I'm curious to know which issues burdened you so heavily that you felt leaving Canada was the only option? It is a vast country with plenty of differences regionally, so the option to internally migrate was always there.
What area of the world did you move to that you seem to have found what you were looking for?
I'm asking because I am genuinely curious, as someone who grew up in Canada, lived overseas (in a country on most people's bucket lists, but has its own set of issues) and has returned to Canada. I can personally attest to the fact that the addage "the grass is always greener over the fence" rings true initially, but every place has its similar issues.
Well, there's more than one reason. If we're being honest, they're not all 100% consistent -- so prepare for a somewhat meandering story. At the time I was just facing this cloud of problems, and it looked like I could resolve some of the serious ones by moving to a growth market.
Part of it was just bad luck. My industry vanished in a puff of legislation on graduation (federal legislation, so not much opportunity elsewhere). So I pivoted, did grad school in something a bit different, and then it happened a second time. So by pure chance, my profession was largely oversupplied with experts, which kept salaries very low and opportunities limited.
I pivoted again and taught myself various branches of engineering, which I funded by teaching other people (after I learned something interesting). This was what eventually saved me, but at the time, no one would consider me for a proper job without a specialist degree in engineering.
I think at the peak of things I had 5 or 6 jobs, one full-time, and was making under CAD 28k a year before tax. I kept at it for 2 years like this, but couldn't even land an interview for a decent job, and no real prospects for advancement in my main job. So I was really frustrated that I was working and studying so hard, but no opportunities opened up. Starting a company was also just too big of a financial risk. Meanwhile, I saw the medical system starting to fall apart, and rent creeping upward relative to salaries. At that time (~10 years ago) I rented a 4.5 across the street from a metro station for 625 CAD a month. Now it would be over 3 times that.
I guess it was a very boring problem in the end: I just saw no realistic path to increasing my income, and a whole bunch of factors coming that would increase my costs. I had aggressively saved/invested so I had enough money to move somewhere new, if I did it right away without letting attrition wear away at my savings. I was honestly sort of terrified of leading a mediocre life, and it felt like the time to act.
So I started looking for a growth market that everyone moved away from and so had a shortage of engineering talent. Some of my colleagues had returned to China and were doing OK, so I looked into that. However, the immigration process was a bit unclear, I would become functionally illiterate, and it looked like the glory days of growth were nearly over. Vietnam proved a better choice on these points. At the time, there were very few foreigners here, and anyone talented would look to leave (no longer the case) -- this felt like a place I could work hard, and make a name for myself.
A lot of my friends were in a similar situation, and many moved to the USA. However, I don't find the USA a good cultural fit for me. Cultural integration was easier for me in Asia, it was a place where I could build things and have a company, and my savings would last long enough for me to get that off the ground. This proved much more difficult than expected, many terrible things happened, but maybe 18 months ago I pulled ahead of where I would have been if I stayed in Canada, and am now comfortably ahead.
I focus on the areas I can impact. So far that's going OK. As for the state of the world I tell myself that it's probably not as crazy as the media makes it out to be and most of the time that's true. I'm not American so it makes it easier to dismiss American issues.
I do what I can to just ignore it. Sure, I don't have a lot and my life is pretty shitty but I always remember that someone somewhere else probably has it significantly worse. Also, while I know it's morbid to think like this, I know that if things get really bad, there will always be a way out.
I try to remind myself that, in the great scheme of things (i.e, evolution) a "step forward, two steps back" is a common thing in this chaotic universe of ours.
Of course, the answer is different if you are suffering directly from these things (apart from the meteors and dinosaurs) I mentioned above, then things suddenly get VERY personal and provoke impulsive reactions from our end.
By taking what limited steps I can, and by not criticizing others if I don’t think their efforts are thorough, effective, or sincere enough (nobody likes a smug, judgmental, pedantic asshole). By recognizing that people cope in their own ways, and keeping an open mind. By generally trying to be considerate of others.
The only things worth worrying about are the things that you can control. Don’t worry about who wins the election, just worry about your vote. Don’t worry about what you don’t have, take joy in the things you do have.
Find your village, whether that’s the community of your favorite hobby, a group of local friends, or your family and invest in them and not a politician, celebrity, or athlete.
There is a fallacy named after this I'm pretty sure too! The bottom of page 3 of this paper gives a brief explanation as to why humans believe things are getting worse when they aren't.
Anger, I simply want to out live my enemies and shit talk them when they die. I'm waiting on Bill oriley, Glen beck, bezos, Bill gates, Rupert murdoch and the other koch brother to croak simply to shit talk them to oblivion and pass this information too my children.
I think about how things actually were 50 years ago, and how every generation since the dawn of written history has the same exact end times mythology and then correctly conclude that I am merely suffering from the same delusion as nearly every human prior to me.
By reminding myself that unless some space rock suddenly hits us or the sun decides to explode super early, we're fine. And if you look at our history as a species, we'll continue to be fine. We've endured far worse things than this before and we'll do it again and again. We're good at that. Stupidly good. Whatever rough spots we're facing now is going to pass. It's always passed. Can't be bad all the time, after all. As for global warming causing a potential extinction event? It...more than likely won't happen in our life time, so, worry, but don't, like, believe it'll happen tomorrow or that we're already actually facing The Great Dying 2.0. We're maybe at the crossroads, but not there yet.
Other than that? I do as a few have already mentioned here and try and make the world just a slightly better place. Helping others in my community out, being kind and considerate to the people around me, trying to not get frustrated at drivers out on the road (this is tough NGL), that kinda thing.
We’ve endured far worse things than this before and we’ll do it again and again. We’re good at that.
Let me be clear, we as the species Homo Sapiens, have not experienced catastrophic climate change on the level and speed we are now. We have also not lived through a mass extinction on the level we are now. Though we did live through an extinction of megafauna at the end of the last ice age, that is far different than a full scale mass extinction that is also decimating tiny animals like insect populations and the like, which is far more disturbing.
We really can’t say for sure how bad things are going to get before we (hopefully) get old and die but it is likely going to be very bad.
Oh yeah, on the level of Extinction Events, we haven't survived one yet. Hopefully we will in some way, shape or form (hopefully as ourselves), but you never know. That's why i said, or tried to say, "worry, but don't claw your hair off because of it just yet". Because if that punch is coming, there's no sense in worrying about it--better to brace for it as best we can, you know?
When i said "we've survived worse before" tho, it was in response to the OP's worries of the state of the United States. The question itself was kinda broad and they didn't really get specific, but at the same time...i highly doubt this is the worst it's gotten for the States (or any country, really) besides in the area of climate change, but that's not exclusive to the US, that's everwhere.
Lot of good things in here. A couple thoughts. One: Because Lemmy is nice to be on/use. The community generally 'slaps' as the generations below me call it. Two: Also white male USA and have also been deeply concerned for the past several years. I chose to focus on community directly around me while acknowledging the crappy situation everywhere due to asshats abusing power/status/wealth. I take solace that the people I choose to spend time around are generally reasonable people and try to help eachother out when we can and always when needed.
We are now in the "rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic" stage of humanity. So, roughly around step 5 to 6.
But to answer your question at the moment, nihilism. The sad reality is we’re an animal that thinks itself as the divinely chosen species on the planet, thus absolving us from any sense of responsibility for destroying others and setting it on fire.
Stoicism. Is there something that I can do about it?No. Is it under my control to change this? No. Then I move on and do the best I can be a better person and be more empathetic.
I focus on trying to improve my own little corner of the world, realizing that it may not make much of a difference in the grand scheme. But taking some small actions to help others, reduce my footprint, etc. does help allay some of the despair and dread. I know it's not much, but that's all I've got for you.
I'm an unremitting optimist who was born in the abyss, and climbed out of it.
Will I one day go back there? Yes.
Will you? Also yes.
However, you'll go there depressed, screaming, full of sorrows, regrets, doubts, and pain, wishing you had just a little more time.
I go there, with a smile on my face, because I'll be going home. I've already lived that, I've had that experience. It doesn't get any worse than the rock bottom, of death's door itself - the murky black sea from which none emerge, king nor beggar.
Absolutely everything between now and then is just extra gravy. Being alive is a miracle.
While it might seem that the world is getting worse and worse, it’s actually quite the opposite. We have less war deaths than any centuries before, social justice is on the rise almost everywhere, poverty is at an all time low. For the last 50 or so years, almost every metric of human wellbeing increased, some significantly.
Doesn’t mean there aren’t any problems and we still have a lot of work to layed out for us. But to say that the world is getting worse and worse is just factually incorrect.
What about our inaction on climate change? We've made very small advances and it threatens the fundamental existence of organized human society within a single human lifespan of right now. Everything else is rather insignificant by comparison. Rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic
I wouldn't really call it inaction. In fact in the last 100 years marketing has made great strides towards accelerating climate change through the promotion of senseless consumption and the active denial and obfuscation of the effects various industries had on climate change for as long as possible.
I don't think this kind of catastrophizing helps. Climate change certainly doesn't "threaten the fundamental existence of organized human society". Sure, we should do more about it and future generations would be better off if we were to lessen the impact, but it is not an existential threat.
We're in one of the best times to be alive in history and the world is still getting better in many ways, I just try to feel grateful for that when I see something that's bad or getting worse.
I have lost all hope and am behaving as though we will all be dead within 25 years, and although that is not LITERALLY true, the actual reality is that billions will die in the coming decades and it won't be peacefully in their sleep. The famines, wars and plain savagery will be awe inspiring to witness. The die offs of all life in the oceans and the insects will doom us to a swift death.
I exist and nothing more. I have no feelings one way or the other at this point. If I get hit by a car on my way home, it would be just as enjoyable as if I watched a good movie, although if I were to die in the crash, it might be a bit better than the movie.
I only hope that I can exact some form of vengeance on those responsible before we all perish.
First, it’s getting better, not worse. We just see and hear about things immediately before any context is added, which makes it seem 10x worse.
Second, I try to make an impact on my local world. I try to be a good leader and impact those lives around me. If everyone made a difference we’d truly be much better off altogether.
How the fuck you lie to yourself like that? Getting better?
The average global temperature this year was highest in last 125,000 years. The US is about to have an election between two pathetic old men that no one likes except mentally deranged or blissfully in denial. In fact, Republicans and SCOTUS might remove Biden from ballots under the CO ruling of 14th Amd. citing "given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof"
China is about to invade Taiwan where 80% of semiconductors in advanced products are made, and US only move is to destroy the billion dollar fabs and pause technology with 4 years of no new things like iPhones.
AI is becoming 80% accurate on predicting deaths and will soon lead to insurance companies dropping people from life and medical right when people need it, and also employers will take advantage.
Antarctica is literally falling into the ocean. Oh and don't forget 1T tons of carbon stored in permafrost.
Satisfaction that the rich are going to get fucked by climate catastrophe and ecosystem collapse just as much as everyone else. The climate change deniers will starve just like the rest of us.
It's been billions of years before I existed, and potentially trillions of years afterwards. I'm incredibly lucky to be aware and thinking, so why should I complain about stuff happening after my spark of awareness has faded?
Earth will continue without humans just fine, eventually getting swallowed by the Sun. Nothing humanity has done will survive.
Satisfaction that the rich are going to get fucked by climate catastrophe and ecosystem collapse just as much as everyone else. The climate change deniers will starve just like the rest of us.
They will eventually... but in the mean time it definitely doesn't affect them the same as the rest of us. When some places start becoming unlivable, they can just move to the ones that will last longer. When food and water becomes scarce they'll hoard what's left. When the air becomes unhealthy to breathe they'll have filters. It's gonna be a long time before they see any actual consequences they can't buy their way out of.
I want to combat all the people saying "um, actually things are getting better"
What they mean to say is "The largely meaningless or deliberately misleading metrics the government uses to make its own report card say things are going great!"
Everybody keeps talking about how the "economy" is so strong. That just means the stock market is doing well and owners of capital are happy.
Meanwhile, the US has the highest rate of homelessness in its recorded history. Worth noting that the way numbers are reported for things like homelessness, unemployment, and the like are very intentionally designed to under-report.
Local, state, and federal government all have a long history of changing the method of reporting/calculating those metrics during a term in office so they can say "unemployment dropped 30% under my watch!" When all they really did was not count 30% of the people previously counted.
Yes, wages are finally rising, and it has nothing to do with the government. It's entirely the work of unions and organization of labor to raise wages, and it's still got a long way to go.
The best thing that anyone can do is vote for better representation at every opportunity.
The best thing that not everyone can do is talk to a doctor if you have signs of depression or other mental illness. Yes, it's possible to have those things brought on by circumstance, and no, that doesn't mean you don't have to do anything about it.
If you can't afford doctor's visits like that, look up non-profit health care organizations. You may be lucky enough to have real, free Healthcare options available through places like Good Samaritan.
And don't forget to let yourself acknowledge the REAL progress of the world. We're seeing rapid development and insight on treatments for cancers, dementia, new vaccines, renewable tech, and computational efficiency.
There are many broken systems to overcome, but even still there are incredible humans building the foundations for an incredible future if we keep working at it. Maybe we can help make sure Gen Alpha gets a fair shot.
Just be depressed and try to distract myself. At one point I thought I could change things by getting involved in politics. I very quickly realized how pointless that was. Of course now even my distractions also keep getting ruined. So... idk.
Philosophy and learning to accept what you cannot control. It's an everyday struggle, but overtime you can form new, more positive, habits. Setting attainable goals for yourself can be one way to help you along this path.
I just keep in mind that the police won't likely get to violate me again before I kill myself. Everyone else can deal with the shit they wouldn't bother saving me from.
Well my small part of it is, which is something. I guess it is because I am a fatalist. One day I will be dead and there is no afterlife. So yeah things as a whole are going to shit but they were always destined to. Our job is palliative. It's going to die, try to make things comfortable before the end.
It is, though. The US isn't the only place, nor is the Middle East. "African farmer can send kids to high school for first time" isn't a splashy headline but it happens a lot.
There's a lot of "statistically, things are better now than they've ever been so don't worry about it" posts in here, but that's cold comfort for the individual person. While accurate, you might as well be making a Tragedy Olympics comment. Things are better than they have ever been, but in the past 10-20 years, things have gotten worse for a lot of people in their daily lives. There are plenty of ways to cope such as alcohol, drugs, video games, and other addictions, but those only push the feeling away temporarily and do nothing to change your situation.
My suggestion is to look at the things that worry you, from least to greatest and from the ones you have the least ability to affect to the ones you can effectively change. And then look at the ones you can personally affect the easiest that would have the largest and most immediate impact on your life, and make a plan on how to work on those. Feeling like you are making some progress towards improving your life makes a huge difference. Maybe it's taking some time one day a week to prep a bunch of meals ahead of time so you don't have to worry about it after work during the week. Maybe it's making sure to walk every day to get some exercise. Maybe it's talking about the issues in your community right now with friends and neighbors, and working together on a way to help solve those. Whatever it is, even a small step is still a step forward towards the life you want.
As a bisexual trans woman who was in middle school when 9/11 happened, I spent my childhood and teenage years watching helplessly as the country around me became more and more openly hostile to anyone who didn't fit the mold of a cis white heterosexual Christian male. And the bigotry has only gotten worse from there. The first 6 months of this year alone, more than 1 anti-trans bill was proposed every single day. 4 out of 10 trans women in the US will be a victim of sexual assault. The average lifespan for a trans person is 30 years due to murder and suicide rates. However, I live in one of the most LGBTQ+ friendly states in the country and have elected officials at practically every level of government who have made it clear that they will fight tooth and nail to keep it that way, so I make sure to support those sorts of politicians at elections and avoid going to states that are currently a threat to my life while I focus on more immediate issues, like the high cost of living and poor wages/job prospects in my town. I spend some time every week just casually looking at jobs in places I would like to live and working on hobbies and skills I enjoy, as I've found that even if it's not related to a field, just showing that you are willing and able to learn a new skill can land you a job. A company will sometimes hire you more on if they like you as a person than on your actual qualifications. Almost landed myself a job on a government contract that way before a medical issue prevented me from working for several years; simply because the boss and others enjoyed talking to me when I would come to pick up their stuff and I did some due diligence to make sure they were taken care of even if the delivery company dropped the ball (and if I picked up extra hours from them? The delivery company got paid and so did I, so it was a win-win).
And when all else fails, there's always spite. Sheer spite has been a great motivator for me in life, because are you really gonna give up before you have a chance to grab that asshole from elementary school who bullied you and rub his nose in the dirt with how great the life you've created for yourself is? Becoming a happy person is the best way to give a giant middle finger to everybody who's ever called you a loser.
Doomerism is very in right now, but lots of things are getting better. It's hard to see through all the social media, but if you curate your feeds to things like science and educational information, you can see all the wonderful things people are learning and making.
Sure, there are a lot of selfish, shitty people out there making a lot of noise, but in the background, there's the same great people just chugging along making things better.
Just chug along with them and vote for the people that align with your values, and do the best you can.
Like Mr. Rogers used to say, when you see bad things happen, just look for the helpers. The first thing that always happens after a tragedy, is people line up to help. It's our natural instinct.
There is no guarantee that as a white male you get anything.
That kind of thinking is only present in the racist concept that Europeans have always been at the top.
They haven't. Western Europeans weren't the top of anything until the Renaissance(except maybe at being mostly peaceful, having a measure of women's rights and being outright genocided and colonized by the Romans).
Why care about the world when it doesn't care about me? I'll stick to caring about my small circle that I can actually do something for and rather hands off with the rest.
I think what has helped me is watching John Green/ Hank Green's YouTube channels. The fact is bad news happens fast, but good news happens slow.
A maternity ward was built in Sierra Leone thanks to the coordinated effort of thousands of people across the world. Patents for Tuberculosis tests and treatments have been released in the countries that need it the most. This is a disease that takes millions of lives every year, not because we don't have the technology, but because people don't have access to the treatments. Of course this was something that should have been taken care of decades ago, but the fact we can pressure pharmaceutical companies to release their patents for the good of humanity must mean something.
Despair is seductive, it asks nothing but to feel sad, and you can always find reasons to despair. But the correct answer to consciousness is hope.
I work in Chicago with non profits that are dedicated to building safe communities, to saving local and global ecosystems, to public health access, to helping house the homeless.
I fully believe that there isn't anything wrong with the world that can't be solved with what is right with the world. And when I feel despair, which I am oft to do, I look at my friends, my community, those that roll up their sleeves, shake hands, and do what they can with what they have.
The weather lately has been depressing and angering. I keep trying to get people around angry about it too, but just like everyone else it's hard to feel like it's possible to get anything done. That's why we need to band together
Nihilism. Nothing matters therefore I am free to do anything. If I choose to make a positive impact in my tiny part of the world, no matter how small it is a net positive compared to if I decide to do nothing. I tried apathy for a while and it served no-one, not even me.
If the best you can do is vote against fascism then that is OK. If the best you can do is show up to local town/village meetings and have your voice be heard that is OK. If the best you can do is vague-post online about the state of America, that's OK.
The only bad thing you can do is be silent. As long as you are willing to speak up about the issues that are important to you and the problems you see that need fixing, you are doing more than 90% of this country.
Live your life according to your values, and on those be uncompromising. Vote your conscience, and hold your elected officials to a higher standard. Realize that change comes slowly, and some things are simply out of your control.
You are not responsible for the things outside your power. You are not to blame for the failings of your nation. Have the greatest effect where you can and learn to recognize where you can't.
We're all in this together, and we're all pulling for ya.
From my point of view, the world is neither getting worse nor better, the world has always been the way it is, and it doesn't seem like it's going to change. It's just my opinion.
Edit: In fact, what is getting worse is our economic system, but that is nothing new.
From my point of view this is true. Except for the world slowly becoming physically unlivable to our species this is a phenomenon while not entirely new, true, has ramped up faster than ever before
Learning about the philosophy of the Stoics (which frankly was not enough for me), plus this quote (which also was not, but the two together... that did help!:-D), something to the effect of: "Strong societies beget weak children, who then grow up to create weak societies, which then beget strong children, who then grow up to create strong societies" - and the cycle continues. i.e., Boomers mainly did not fight in the wars, just grew up hearing how Great America was, without having to experience first-hand the blood, sweat, and tears that made it that way (to the extent that it ever was that way ofc). Well, now things are changing in the direction that they were ALWAYS going to have to changed in - b/c evil people gonna evil it up, no doubts about that - and eventually, sheeple will get sick & tired of being sick & tired and rise up, to change things. Until then, we suffer, but not needlessly.
In other words, we've gone through the stages of denial (climate change / economic downturn / wage slavery / cultural insensitivity / whatever is NOT happening), anger (okay so it's happening but what are you going to do about it), bargaining (he tells it like it is and big daddy will fix everything & make it all great again! ironically this holds true for both Obama and Trump, loathe as I am to have ever uttered such a sentence), and now we are into the depression era.
Next comes acceptance, and that's when the healing - and the beginning of lasting change - can truly start.
As always, most of the world is not doing better, but some of it is doing great. I choose to be part of the latter and be an architect of the future regardless of how big or small my contribution will be.
I wonder if you've gone out to look for things that have actually improved. So many quality of life indicators in many countries are far better than they were 50 years ago, and that should give you some measure of encouragement. And we need that encouragement because there's a lot of problems that people are running into, and some of those problems feel insurmountable.
For me its the fact that I know in the end there will be a judgment day and that everyone will be taken to account. No one will get away with the misdeeds they commit "forever". In a similar light, no good action will go not rewarded forever.
I think your premise is flawed or maybe your reference frame is extremely narrow.
As a whole, there's basically never been a better time to be a human. There are fewer conflicts, higher standards of living, amazing medicine, etc. Yes, access to those things and damage to the environment are backsliding, but this is temporary. (Well, everything is temporary to a human if you want to go that route, but that's not what I mean here). The trend line continues to go up, at least for now. The best thing that we can do is try to keep that trendline going up.
Yes, I am angry, I am disappointed, I am heartbroken, I am frustrated, and I am just generally sad at the current wars, erosion of rights, and environmental issues. However, I vote for what I believe in and try to advocate for it where I can. I try to avoid getting trapped in social media bubbles and spend very little time on it (and mostly only here when I do; no facebook or anything here). I try to go outside and raise plants. I am buying a farm where I can grow food, plant more native species, and do a tiny bit to heal at least the land under my feet whilst reducing my carbon footprint. I try to volunteer where I can. I have hobbies that take my mind away from these issues.
I can't control other people. I can fight to convince them of something, but ultimately I cannot control them. Maybe the selfishness and contrarianism of some will destroy us all. If so, then I just know I did what I reasonably could to avoid it.
There is less poverty and less major wars than anytime pretty much in recent history. On a local level, individual crime is generally also at its lowest levels. It varies a bit year to year but we are living in one of the safest and prosperous times ever.
The power that major tech companies weild combined with the addiction the vast majority of the population have to their products is telling me otherwise.
If anything things have gotten worse.
Used to have 6 different supermarket bands in my town, but despite population booming we're now stuck with a duopoly that has 6 shops between them (Coles / Woolworths) and 1 minor left over (Aldi).
That's what I'm seeing as a 40+ Aussie that's lived in the same town all that time.
The world is better than it ever has been since the 1970s. You are too young to know what it was like during the Cold War. We are not even under daily nuclear threats like was used to be. There isn't a wall across Europe with two Superpowers pointing weapons at each other. Life is really good right now compared to the past.
I am also old as fuck. We’re in a proxy war with one nuclear power and a new cold war with another. Just because the government and the media aren’t scaremongering us about these facts doesn’t change them.
I mean, in the ’70s you could pay for your college classes with a summer job, and people with minimum wage jobs could afford housing. Stop. Gaslighting. These. People. With. Toxic. Positivity.
Gen X / Xennial cusp here. I'm as dismal as everyone else. We're fucked. I'm fucked. I've worked my ass off to get nothing. I have no hope and can't figure out why I keep trying.
My future is uncertain, I have no end of life care, no insurance, no retirement, and no prospects.
Gaslighting? No. I do wish someone would leave the gas on in my apartment though.
You’re deluded. Climate change and global fascism on the rise. More slavery than ever. We’re not getting off this rock. Seas will rise, life will collapse and forests will burn. No one is coming to save us. The world is headed for annihilation unless Capitalism is abolished globally.
True, but let’s be honest, a) the rest of the world has their own version of the U.S. problems to deal with and b) if the U.S. goes to shit, a lot of things go to shit globally.
We can’t really lean back and say “man you really screwed shit up, sucks to be you” and get on with our life.
People who doom cry that everything is awful are just as stupid to me as those who think everything is perfect! Both camps are just very ignorant of history, politics and economics. Frequently these groups also contain the both sides type of people. Again, ignorant as shit.