picture 2: not real and technically imposible to do that cause we have 1.4 billion people
This makes me imagine how social credit department people hands look like if it is real
People are people no matter where they live, which also means you can't trust any government anywhere. Propaganda is powerful.
The idea of a social credit score has always been hilarious to me, like yo bros we have credit scores over here and they legitimately fuck us over since you need good credit to do alot of things like renting a place to live.
Wow, the content on the Chinese-controlled social media platform aligns with the Chinese narrative? Shocking.
"The jews are secretly controlling the world. Don't look at the chemtrails, they inseminate you with 5G!!"
wow the level of cope in this thread (thankfully not that many tho) arguing over stats - which are probably made up anyway.
some people can't handle that most humans just wanna be friends regardless of gov politics bs
yep most genuinely don't care, people just hate to be a part of something lol
我爱小红书！I love rednote! So many cool people and I'm brushing up on my mandarin 😎
I still don't believe the TEMU bit though
I like how one person said they don't use child labour because they are inefficient. If they were efficient though ...
Child labour IS inefficient that's why they didn't mention the uighur slaves
Few things blew my mind even though I've been a big fan of Chinese economic and political policy for a while
They actually really like Soviet Culture, the marching soldiers and flags etc. Soviet rock like Kino and the like is very popular!
They're casually Marxist, its not something they have to fight to learn about so socialism is a casual existence for them. I figured the youth would be "too cool or hip" but doesn't seem to be the case
They're very similar as gamers, they really like shooters like battlefield and cs go. I assume their MMOs are different but I'm asking about that
It truly is a massive cultural exchange the likes of which have never been seen before. I'm trying to find out if they grew up on the same games, Morrowind Deus Ex Thief Ultima Online D&D etc
Trying to talk about the conversations on Rednote while on .ml is kind of hilarious.
Quick! Somebody link to one thing the US government has said about China.
You lose points by googling, because everyone upvoting surely has seen the US government say something about China and knows where to find that document.
The fuck are you even on about? Please broadcast your mental inferiority somewhere else.
Eh, there's truth and lies on both sides. Coming from someone that lived in china for 4 years and was able to engage with Chinese primary news sources. But basic healthcare in china is faster and cheaper, but then again I went to get a wart removed and they prescribed me acorn paste that accelerated the growth of the wart. So win some lose some.
Everyone pretending Europe doesn't exist? Most countries have most healthcare for "free" (mandatory healthcare taxes).
Eh... as someone living in western Europe, I can't say it's free. I would say that it's subsidized at most. We still have to pay a part of our healthcare, we can get a private health insurance to complete the government coverage, but it's still not enough to cover all of it.
Mental health isn't covered at all, ophtalmology barely (still gotta pay 200€ for a pair of glasses, after public + private coverage), dental only the very basic is covered...
Not a single hospital I went to in that country had hand soap in the bathrooms, to give you an idea about the level of hygiene. But going for my yearly sinus infection was a breeze and I got antibiotics. Not a zpack but it cleared up the infection. And no appointments necessary. Breeze in and breeze out an hour later with what you need. And dirt dirt cheap, and on my visa I didn't pay into the national health care system, so my cost was 100% out of pocket.
We are just enjoying the show and eating popcorn, don't give them ideas!
The wart had to grow so it could be killed
If you'd have left it @[email protected], it would've become a mighty oak. You Westerners are weak. Who wouldn't want a mighty oak growing out their dick?
Wart fertilizer perhaps
Everyone's pals until you mention Pooh Bear...
TOPXI
It's uncomfortable seeing Xi with an actual jawline..
There's a bunch of Chinese posts asking if the stuff about school shootings, fires, homelessness are exaggerated propaganda only to be told otherwise. It's both hilarious and sad.
People of the US and China are both unsure of what to believe about the other, because both are so propagandized lol
There is definitely more direct censorship of domestic events in China than in the US. For instance, in the US it is widely publicised that the government separates children from adults at the border. Ask Chinese about the Uyghur work camps and they won’t know.
Circle jerking about China is as ridiculous as circle jerking about the US. We've been here before with US vs USSR, but this time everyone has a megaphone and an IQ that can be measured with a ruler.
Reporter: [REDACTED]
Reason: MisinformationTruths you find inconvenient are not misinformation, reporter.
If banning tik tok ends up galvanizing demand for healthcare reform I'm going to laugh my ass off
imagine making social media so bad your own citizens actively procure your biggest rival's networks.
I think there's a simple desire to move to pastures new. "Use Instagrmam or Youtube Shorts or Snapchat" No, we've been there and done that.
It's honestly very wholesome to see this kind of interaction. On top of cute moments like Chinese users telling the new US users that they are their "spies," seeing a lot of blatant myth dispelling surrounding the PRC is great to help tear down the Red Scare.
tbf the people who will download this app are not scared by China in the first place
This is breaking my brain... world news told me it was bad and told me what "experts" say about privacy.
OPSEC-wise you should avoid most mainstream social media anyway unless you're using Tor or a VPN, whether it's Xitter, Insta, or Rednote
Said social media blocks you from using tor. Reddit back in the day freaked out when the apparent ip keeps switching and forces you to login again and again.
Which world news? Makes a big difference.
Earth world duh
Norway actually does.
Source: Am norwegiam. Am parent.In the US? Lol, no.
Source: I work with a bunch of Texans.Belgium: 4 months, better than nothing I guess
"And our tests have concluded, that this is, in fact, a lie."
If only...
Now ask about Tiananmen Square.
You mean 1989 (Taylor’s Version)
I didn't think child labor still existed in China, just harsh labor conditions and low pay.
China's government's strict control of the media did, however, lead to me not questioning the social credit score thing.
Pretty naive to think that child labor dosen't exists in China tbh. Maybe not at the scale of child factory workers that some western media like to depict, but at a smaller scale, in farming, family owned business and small isolated factories.
As a parent, I would prefer this to modern western environments for children that include TVs, video games, phones and no idea what I do for a profession.
In farming and small business’s it’s very common to see kids working in the us
harsh labor conditions and low pay
As opposed to how it is in the US...?
US media loves to go on about the horrible working conditions in China, claiming 11-hour days and all kinds of other sweatshop working conditions because nothing sells like a good tragedy, but nobody talks about the working conditions at home and talking amongst ourselves is often made difficult, either by cultural or business practices. It's illegal to punish employees for talking about how much they make with each other, but that doesn't stop businesses from doing it anyway, because people here simply don't know their rights as a worker and companies love to take advantage of it. So we think we have a clear grasp of how the Chinese live while still believing that people here work 40-hour weeks and somewhere in the cultural zeitgeist is still the belief that people can afford a house with a white picket fence, a dog/cat, and 2.5 kids on one person's salary.
Same.
Not hard to believe when there's camps for uyghurs.
Happy to be wrong.
I maintain this, but other comrades like @davel and @yogthos keep better megathreads about this topic.
https://dessalines.github.io/essays/socialism_faq.html#whats-going-on-with-the-uyghurs
labor conditions actually aren't very bad at all. equivalent to first world countries. pay is relative
I mean america has wage slavery. I just think the detail are just different
USA have literal slavery, and it's even straight up called slavery in 13 amendment to constitution. Which also makes US afaik the only country that did enshrined slavery in constitution. Land of the free my ass.
Truth: the strongest propaganda.
Lol people actually believed that social credit score bullshit?
Social credit scores were a thing. People were punished for low scores. It only happened in a few cities and it was described as a pilot.
Obviously the pilot got a lot of bad press in and outside China and it is no longer happening
I mean I feel real stupid reading into it, but up until now, yes
But... social credit literally is real... There are government legislations on this. It is not a conspiracy theory.
On the other hand Western media definitely has exaggerated and demonized it a lot. The social credit is basically your credit score, but it is more expansive and uses information some might see as encroaching on their personal privacy and freedoms.
wdym by "basically your credit score"?
The credit score in China is to keep tabs on businesses to prevent corruption and excesses, just basic things the US used to do back in the 1950s, but would now be considered "authoritarian".
The credit scores in the US are used to prevent regular people from getting housing.
Plenty of people also still believe the secret Chinese police stations bullshit.
And they believe Uyghur genocide too. They're fucking brainwashed. They completely lack critical thinking capabilities.
A great way to get people to understand is to insult them. That always works well
Indeed.
They really need to add a translation feature though. It's getting a bit annoying running everything through a translate app, for both english and chinese speakers I imagine.
Perhaps it will get added, but it's important to note that this is a Chinese app for Chinese users, the English influx was an accident.
Still, China's overall geopolitical strategy is to trade and be friendly with literally anyone who will do the same, so I imagine a translation feature may come.
There are a heck of a lot more Chinese people that speak English than there are English speakers that can speak Chinese
China is a big place stuffed with folks.there are a lot more Chinese people doing whatever than most lol
Cringe
