LG and Samsung are adding Microsoft’s Copilot AI assistant to their TVs
LG and Samsung are adding Microsoft’s Copilot AI assistant to their TVs
Copilot on a TV might just be an AI gimmick.
LG and Samsung have both announced their 2025 smart TVs at CES this weekend, and some of them will include access to Microsoft’s Copilot AI assistant. Both TV manufacturers are chasing the artificial intelligence hype train with dedicated AI sections on their smart TVs that include a shortcut to a Copilot web app.
LG is adding an entire AI section to its TVs and rebranding its remote to “AI Remote,” in an effort to sell consumers on the promise of large language models. While it’s not clear exactly how Copilot works on LG’s latest TVs, the company describes access to Copilot as a way to allow users to “efficiently find and organize complex information using contextual cues.”
LG hasn’t demonstrated its Copilot integration just yet, but it has shown off its own AI Chatbot that’s part of its TVs. It appears Copilot will be surfaced when LG TV users want to search for more information on a particular subject.
Samsung also has its own Vision AI brand for its AI-powered TV features this year, which include AI upscaling, Auto HDR Remastering, and Adaptive Sound Pro. There’s also a new AI button on the remote to access AI features like recognizing food on a screen or AI home security features that analyze video feeds from smart cameras.
Microsoft’s Copilot will be part of this Vision AI section. “In collaboration with Microsoft, Samsung announced the new Smart TVs and Smart Monitors featuring Microsoft Copilot,” says Samsung in a press release. “This partnership will enable users to explore a wide range of Copilot services, including personalized content recommendations.”
I asked Samsung for more information or images of Copilot in action, but the company doesn’t have anything more to share right now. I’ve also asked LG and Microsoft for more information about Copilot on TVs and neither company has responded in time for publication. Without any indication of exactly how Copilot works on these TVs, I’m going to chalk this one up as a gimmicky feature that LG, Samsung, and Microsoft clearly aren’t ready to demo yet.
No one asked for this
disable the wifi on any smart tv you own
The A in AI just stands for Ads.
Oh my god, fucking stop. Nobody wants this. Nobody asked for this.
Advertisers are begging for it. The ability to ingest your data at record scale and bombard you with privatized propaganda as fee-for-service is hugely in demand.
Just have to recognize that these appliances aren't for you to control. This is Microsoft's world and we're just renting space in it.
JUST… WIPE YOUR TVS AND PLUG YOUR COMPUTER IN!
JUST… USE IT AS A BIG EXTERNAL MONITOR!
that's great and all, but all i want is a true-color, bright brights, black blacks panel to hook my media player up to.
That's cool and all... But have you also thought about the gains you could make for the rich people behind the curtain if you were just a good citizen and fell in line and connected your TV to the Internet and consumed all the ads?
Gross.
Time really is a flat circle huh?
This all just sounds like the Alexa/Google Assistant integration some brands were advertising for their TVs previously, just ends up as the obnoxious button you bump into and desperately try to back out while the aging TV huffs and puffs struggling to load the flashy UIJust imagine how much money Microsoft must be investing in this mass surveillance program they are trying to sneak in under the guise of the AI in charge of its indexing.
This is what happens when rich people and corporations have too much investment money. They get convinced by some technology they think kinda works then dump an ungodly amount of money into it.
Uber is still pushing around investor money over 10 years later and until we start cutting rich people off this stupid AI stuff won't die like it should.
I got a 2024 LG OLED TV. It has "AI" but idk what it does exactly. During the setup process there was a step that had a shitty still image of a baby with some crappy music playing. There were two toggle switches to enable AI picture and sound. It was so cheesy. I can't make this shit up. When you turned on picture AI the baby image became HD and a video instead of a still image. I was like "Oh my God, wow! Look at the AI! I wonder what the AI sound is??" So we turn it on and the sound gets high def and adds more instruments in.
In case it isn't clear, none of this was actually AI or enabling actual features on the TV, just some weird required step in the process of setup. It wasn't an AI animated video or sound, just a different video of the baby and a different audio track.
It has "AI" but idk what it does exactly.
It inflates LG’s share price
I'm annoyed because I know my purchase is going to count towards showing the success of AI in their product, when in reality it's just coincidental.
Reminds me of the advertisements for DVDs that would play on VHS tapes, like... I'm watching this on a VHS.
When I first bought my LG TV, the homescreen was great. The cursor-thing with the remote was annoying, but it didn’t really have ads, it had every app I needed, etc.
But it kept updating and then demanding I give it more permissions. Kept getting worse and worse as time went on. So recently I said fuck it, bought an Apple TV, and did a factory reset on the TV. The TV is just a TV now, it has no WiFi access so it doesn’t ever bother me. And the Apple TV is better than the LG OS ever was. Also I can bring the Apple TV to hotels (if they have accessible HDMI ports) which is pretty neat.
I literally just want a screen to watch blu-ray's
Who analyzes vast amounts of data on their TV?
The TV will analyze every bit of your viewing data, tha6s who. This isn't for consu,era, no matter how they spin it. It's to sell data to advertisers.
Former smart TV app developer. I'm going to drive my old dumb lcd TV into the ground before I'm forced to use a "smart" TV.
I prefer casting, but for convenience for my wife, we have a fire tv stick.
I want my panels rendering, not thinking / reporting.
In every cyberpunk story, there is always a group of people that reject the new technology and claim it is an affront to humanity. I can safely say, in this dystopian future we live in, I am solidly in that group of people.
It's not even that.
The technology never, ever works as well as it's hyped. It's a sales ploy, not a feature.
The purpose is always data collection, and the data is always leaked.
Vulnerabilities and the progression of tech make these kinds of bells and whistles age out of practical use faster, costing the consumer more over the long run.
F this kind of noise in particular, this is not progress.
The purpose is always data collection, and the data is always leaked.
Yeah. You're welcome. Since 2010 or so, if I have a robot say something like "in a sentence or two, please tell me the reason for your call"
I always say "JXEHGSJHN KFUJVDR OIFHJBD4HB"
And it's just garbage data. Their AI gets all freaked out.
There was a time that I'd go into mcdonalds and use their self serve kiosk, and do the same thing. I'd wear a jason mask, and speak jibberish. Which is in the lobby of the mcdonalds.
Always got weird looks. So I'd say "What? You never saw anybody save the world before? Resist the machines! AI is trying to learn!!! We've all seen Terminator 2!!!"
Which continued to get me weird looks. However, nothing I did is illegal. Just really weird without context. Which is how I live my life. Drifting in and out of percieved sanity. Things only making sense if you know the context.
Like last week I went grocery shopping wearing a pirate costume.
See, the context here is......I like wearing it.
Not only that, but they tend to adopt the new tech on their terms and reject the mainstream adoption approach.
You really start to feel old when the cyberpunk novels of the 80s and 90s start to become reality (not in a literal sense, but elements are definitely coming true). It was 40 years since Neuromancer was released last year.
Diamond Age but the "Young Lady's Illustrated Primer" advises the young lady to use glue as pizza sauce. The military drones and robots are better now though. Nano assemblers remain a pipe dream.
I'm on the other side with the obviously evil people 😈
Meanwhile I am using local models through home assistant. The fact I can run something equivalent to GPT 3.5 turbo on a $800 graphics card kind of negates any of the benefits of these dumb integrations that require NPUs. Maybe Microsoft should bring back basic quality of life improvements that were in Windows 10 in Windows 11 instead of desperately waving their arms around trying to be relevant to consumers. Dumbasses.
Ugh. I just want a dumb TV. I want a nice hi res screen and that's it. Seems everyone else wants big TV at low cost and that's why we get this shite.
As far as I know, all smart TVs are user-hostile in the sense that they will be used against you if you connect them to the internet.
The least bad is Sony. Buy it, keep it offline forever, and enjoy good-quality video. Avoid all the other trash companies as if your privacy depended on it.
What makes you say Sony is the least bad? Don’t those things run a Google software stack?
They do use Android, yes. I think they are least bad because I can still buy a Sony TV, never connect it to the internet, and still have a TV that works and has a good quality picture.
There are other TV brands - one commenter mentioned Hisense - that will refuse to work until connected to the internet. Other, cheaper brands like TCL, Vizio, and Onn usually have pretty bad-looking screens comparatively. Samsung and LG usually have fine-looking screens but are also more aggressive about pushing ads on your TV than Sony is.
I despise Sony as a company and I have no brand loyalty, but in my experience they seem to offer the least bad TV overall at the moment. If anyone's experience is different, I would appreciate them sharing it here.
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I agree with the sentiment but let me turn the volume up a bit.
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Miss the days when you could buy a dumb TV and add the tech you wanted.
Every TV model sold by Costco is required to work without an internet connection.
You can still, they do have HDMI ports.
Nothing is stopping them from adding the smart crap to things over HDMI inputs. If it doesn't have it at launch, I recommend blocking it from getting updates so you don't get "upgraded" later.
Yes they do and I do add my own tech but my experience with some of these devices has not been great.
I have LG TVs which I connected to the network and have been updated over the years to have really bad UX and are now polluted with ads.
I had an LG sound bar that was great for a while until it completely stopped working. Powers on, all functions seem to work, just no sound. Originally it worked as a Chromecast device too, but they stopped doing updates and Google stopped working with the old API.
My fear is that eventually there will be an update that bricks a device. Now I've taken them off the network, but how long before we have TVs that require Internet to even function.
These smart TVs have a lot more hardware and software than they need which means a lot more to break.
TL;DR: "We can't say what exactly it does, but we're gonna add it."
If that isn't the best endorsement of their new tech. Personally the only AI function I want is skipping ads and I'm pretty sure that one will not be available.
I'm toying with the idea of just getting an LCD projector - I don't care about seeing every pore on the actor's faces, 1024x768 is fine.
🫣why not 1080p? With 1024, you have no integer scale, and every movie looks like shit.. At least go for 1080 or 720, but not this strange resolution where literally no content fits
Ahh, it is 4:3, I see, we have a older person here, it seems 🤭
Source: https://alltechmagazine.com/about/1024-x-768-the-classic-screen-resolution/
I bought a very expensive one a few years ago thinking the same thing, but don't use it because you get nothing close to the vividness of a regular screen. And I'm not a videophile, I'll happily watch most of my shows at 720p, but the color and depth are just really bad on a projection screen, even with the lights out. I end up just using an old 1080 LCD I fixed the backlights on when I got it for free.
Plus the fan noise is fucking annoying.
I really wish it was easier to open up a TV, rip out all the compute and replace it with a custom display driver. Someone could unironically make a decent amount of money selling diy TV stupidification kits
Something like what Jeff Geerling does with this display perhaps.
I rooted my LG C1 and blocked system updates. I use a homebrew channel to download external packages.
Good luck pushing this crapware on me.
I've wanted to root my LG, but I'm not sure how. The last thing I found for that when looking involved using the JavaScript on a website I think. Seemed sketchy.
My LG is totally offline. I use a Nvidia shield, where I have more control what's on it. My router has handles the rest by running VPN + blocking dns.
Copilot can fuck off
Adding AI to your TV? Stupid.
Adding Copilot AI to your TV? Turbostupid.
To this day I don’t understand how Microsoft paid OpenAI $Texas to license their tech and used it to make… ChatGPT, only worse.
LG and Samsung TVs were already on my "do-not-buy" list with their ad ridden UIs, sounds like they're just getting worse. Only a matter of time before they require you to connect them to the Internet to use them
Know anyone else that does a good picture quality 65” OLED?
Just buy an LG and use an external media device. LG TVs work perfectly fine with no network connection and you can set them to power on and go straight to the last used HDMI input.
I never see the built-in OS on my LG OLED.
it's not an issue if you use your own peripherals. I never use my LG's WebOS and never see any ads.
Well, I wasn't going to buy their spyware shit anyway.
I'll never buy from them again. #fuckai
Bro is a fucking TV. Literally no one NEEDS AI on their TV. It may be a useful feature but will someone ever use it? I doubt so. This is just a way to inflate the price of the TV adding a feature that doesn't even need to be on a TV.
This is just a way to inflate the price of the TV
It's not. It's far more valuable. It's a data-mining tool.
Samsung LG and Microsoft will use it to spy on us they don't care if we want it our not
AI itself can't spy on you, but it can be used as an excuse to spy on you (we need always-on mics and to track everything you do for the AI feature!). There's nothing inherent about AI that means spying, it's just often packaged together.
Adding artificial unintelligence to a """"smart"""" device is a move that I expected from a corpo shit
LG and Samsung are bigger idiots than I gave them credit for being.
My company orders a thousand TVs a month and we've dropped Samsung all together unless a client specifically requests it. I hated them when I was an installer (terrible to mount and configure, especially the Frame TVs) and now I hate them on the pre-sales side of things.
We looked into LG but they're kind of a pain to get quotes from.
We default to Sony now.
Yo dawg I put spies in your spies
I should have bought a new tv like 5 years ago.
Can confirm, I bought my LG OLED 65" in 2019 and... it's a little slow (sluggish UI) but the display is still amazing. Great sound, too.
I just bought a new LG TV with QNED screen. It will NEVER be connected to the Internet, or any network. The 'smart' part might as well not exist on the TV.
Not even one time for a firmware update?
I know we're taking about LG, but firmware updates really are as likely to break as to fix core functionality in my experience.
My Hisense TV is automatic, full-on lockdown-until-you-update. You literally can't use the TV until it updates. And lo and behold, after an update that I did everything to try to decline but couldn't, we couldn't connect to the Internet. Cue to 4 months of arguing with Hisense support to get a working TV again - a TV I paid for, to which Hisense applied an update against my will, that broke it.
The only updates I trust at this point and welcome are Valve updates to my Steam Deck.
What so they can update their tv to add Microsoft’s ai shit?
Especially not one time for a firmware update.
Can'y speak for every TV, but some of them should support downloading the firmware update from the manufacturer, tossing it on a USB stick, and plugging the USB into the TV to update.
Why would I want a firmware update?
Just use a thumb drive
And here I was thinking I should upgrade to a nice big OLED and get a PS5 when GTA VI comes out, as it'll undoubtedly be another console exclusive. Of course, LG was at the forefront of consideration, they do make nice OLED panels and mostly everyone else using OLED also uses their panels.
Now they're out of consideration too, along with Samsung (which I currently own)
Samsung suck definitely good to stay away, Sony or Panasonic.
Mine doesn't even have the weird UI ads people would always post on reddit, it just... sucks.
If you're going to run an OS other than Android or Linux with Plasma Bigscreen, at least make it not suck. Tizen on Samsung TVs just sucks.
Unremovable buttons for Netflix, Prime and... WTF even is a Rakuten? on the remote which has a total of less than 15 buttons. Why... It was so minimalistic.
Buy those if you want to have dead buttons on your remote in two years.
Sadly true, but if you're already stuck with one of these TVs like me, you should know that you can get flawless knockoff remotes online in two packs super cheap.
Had to buy the premium magic remote for my LG in order to have one that I know will keep working long term...
The "magic remote" from LG ...
It's so magic it makes you pay for a new remote with features that should already work on the regular remote.
But I get it. We're talking groundbreaking features like navigating up/down/left/right, back and even selecting stuff! /s
The solution I found for my parents' aging LG TV begging for a "magic remote" was adding an AndroidTV box with its own remote and an updated OS with an actual selection of working, relevant apps (as opposed to the native OS of the TV), for a cheaper price than a "magic remote" IIRC. Finally, replacing the default launcher of the AndroidTV box with the minimalist FLauncher made the replacement a somewhat less crappy experience than it initially was.
People actually use the tv remotes? I used it for setup then took the batteries out and dropped it in a drawer somewhere.
HDMI-CEC does all the input selection and on/off that I need. I don’t use the TV for sound. I don’t use any ‘smart’ function of the tv at all. That’s all offloaded onto some other streaming box of your choice. If I watch something physical then I have to walk up and put a disc in the player anyway and doing that kicks on the TV and receiver etc.
I don’t have a cable/dish/whatever package. My parents do and the set top boxes have their own remotes and you can get those to control the tv if need be. A remote stops working? Call the company and they send you a new one. They own the set top box most of the time and that includes the remote for it…make them replace it.
Does HDMI CEC keep the device always on? How else could it work? It's wasting energy.
Really? I don't watch much TV, but we do use the remotes for our Samsung and LG TVs to switch inputs and access streaming services (so more arrow navigation, less numbers, and no channel selector button). Our TVs are all pretty old (Samsung is about 12 years old, LG is 8 years old) and the remotes still work fine, though the LG is getting a bit mushy since it's the one we use the most.
Is this a recent thing?
Im planning on upgrading my old TV soon. But a new one will not be connected to the internet during its lifetime. All useful services are available on more powerful and more intuitive devices anyway.
AI on TV is hopefully just the new 3d. Gone soon.
Ouch, what will come after AI... ?
Big Brother doesn’t like it when you turn the telescreen off for more than thirty minutes…
What the fuck is the point of putting "AI" into a fucking TV, other than to have something else to spy on you?
I’ll cry if they go after monitors like they did tvs.
"Please update your credit card and subscription to access premium colors such as red!"
“Oh you want to unlock 4k? That’s the premium tier. QHD for you!”
You better get out those tissues. They're already starting https://www.lg.com/us/smart-monitors
"Finally!!!"
- what MS, LG, Samsung think their buyers be like
Cute of you to think those corps give a shit about what the consumer thinks or wants
Too bad, mine doesn't get any internet.
I need a new TV, and it turns out, LG and Samsung TVs happen to not be compatible with my house.
Thank god i only have this old Toshiba TV,And if LG and Samsung made it opt out then am fine with that.
Hmm, I can't find "Friends" episodes for free Frank, but I've reviewed all your music and most of it is illegally downloaded. I've alerted the RIAA for proper auction against you. Oh by the way, I know about Monica but haven't yet told your wife about it. We'll let this one pass but the notes about chemicals and your obsession for MAGA hats, that peaked the interest of a few folks who asked for access to your camera and microphone. Say cheese! Hold on, we need more light... Could you open the window, look at it for a sec for the profile. No, its just pixels, the red dots on your face is just hot pixels, don't worry.
The only "smart" feature I want in my TV is a slot to insert a CM5 so I can run my own software.
There are/were signage TV's that had that at one point. Was really hoping it would take off because that's my dream TV setup too
I think NEC might still offer some on the CM4? unsure if they can still be purchased as of now, as that war in '22
Edit: appears they're still sold! https://www.sharpnecdisplays.us/system-on-a-chip
i cant wait to pay extra so i can get the nostalgia cash grab "tv classic"
TV Classic but they will collect data like the modern ones
Maybe I should just mount a giant computer monitor to my wall instead, ironically those are much “dumber” than your typical TV
I guess I'll be avoiding those models when I'm next in the market for a TV, or work out how to disable it/block it at my router if I am forced to connect the TV to the Internet for firmware updates, etc.