I used to say "if you're gonna remake a movie, you should remake a bad movie but do it better."
Then they remade The Crow. "Dude I said do it better. 🤦♂️"
You said "remake a bad movie."
Every iteration of me from 1994 to now is coming to your home to kick your ass right up and out past your teeth for calling the OG Crow a bad movie.
Yes, most of us will be in face paint. Some of us may have black trench coats on. There may even be some hammer pants, but we won't talk about that.
Remakes that are better than the original:
The Thing
The Fly
The Blob
Invasion of the Body Snatchers
Cat People
Hmm. I'm noticing a trend here.
Seriously, there's nothing inherently wrong with remakes but why do it if you're not trying to make it BETTER? Or at least substantially different? Do a different take on the material, don't just swap the CG animated boy for a real life actor while leaving everything including the CG animated dragon as it was, for fuck's sake.
The Wild Robot in theaters. Not a sequel or a remake. It is based off of a novel though.
2024 was apparently the first year where all the top-10 highest grossing movies were sequels. List doesn't include Moana 2 and Gladiator 2 which are expected to make a lot of money as well.
Wild Robot really surprised me.. Score was fantastic and some scenes had me bawling
We took our toddler to see it and both my partner and I had multiple episodes of weeping. Lovely film.
Also, for those interested in more mature movies: Juror #2. I had good expectations and was not disappointed. At least, not by the movie. There were only a handful of people in an already small cinema room, only a week after release. Meanwhile, Gladiator II is drawing a lot of public.
While I love shitting on CEOs and business people as much as the next left-oriented person, this trend in the movie industry is very much, at least partially, at fault due to many of the consumers.
Juror #2
Thought provoking in that everyone who wants to convict is "because he's a piece of shit, whether or not it is unlikely he did it". How do you tell people they are pieces of shit themselves, without them reactively thinking you are? Is the big thought experiment this film provokes.
Y2K. It was better than I expected!
Also, I remember walking out of Everything Everywhere All At Once and being angry because it probably wouldn’t do well in theaters or win any awards, despite being one of the best original movies I had ever seen.
I was happy to be wrong on that one.
Another also, I absolute hate that the video game industry is jumping on this trend. Sometimes it’s nice to play games I missed out on as a kid but it’s getting so bad now, they remaster games from a couple years ago. Enough is enough.
Last solid remaster is probably Age of Mythologies Retold.
Most remasters by now are just junkware though.
I'm not against sequels/prequels, just need some more than "it's the sequel to that one you liked".
OK, but why does it need a sequel? Can you make me interested in it aside from the fact it's a sequel? Is it any good....?
Not a movie or fully original, but I watched Arcane and I loved it. It was good without knowing about the game, and those who know the game say it's better if you do. That's what a sequel/remake/adaptation should strive for.
It's to the point right now that a young person 20 years of age could spend a decade just watching all the old classics from the past 80 years to enjoy great films. If they stopped making movies tomorrow, there's more than enough content now for people to watch.
My wife wants to keep watching the latest stuff but if it were up to me, I'd just take the time to watch at least all of the AFI top 100 films.... last I checked I think I've only seen about 30 of them and I thought I watched a lot of films. My last rough count of watched films that I could list was over 1,500 films. And I still have a waiting list of hundreds more I want to see.
I'm a Trek fan and I thought I watched lots but I've only seen about half of all the TV series and most of the films.
That's also not counting all the other TV series I'd like to see from the past ... MASH, All In The Family, Adam's Family, The original Batman series, The Munsters, X Files, Walking Dead, Arrested Development, Battlestar Galactica, Twilight Zone, The Office ...... and on and on
If my spouse wasn't so stuck in watching the latest stuff I'd probably be happy just spending my time catching up on everything I wasn't able to see for the past 30-40 years.
I agree. Its the same with literature as well. One thing I enjoy about older media is not feeling so drawn to reflect on any social commentary of my own time. To me it makes it more immersive and more about the timeless aspects of the story.
I'm exactly that young person. I won't be even able to consume every work of art I'm interested in. That's both sad and amazing.
I'm not a young person and I'm in the same boat
People want original without taking the risk of watching an unknown movie that might be bad
I just can’t afford $30 for a ticket
Good thing the critic was invented, my tip is to follow one and getting familiar with them, not looking at aggregate scores, because even if they dislike a movie, you'll know if you would like it since you are familiar with their tastes.
So they take the risk of watching a movie that is somehow familiar to them ahead of watching it, and that might also be bad.
The Banshees of Inisherin
i watched it in a theater, because i've heard the movie was good. Didn't read up much on it beforehand and enjoyed watching it, albeit not fully getting it i guess.
It felt worth going to a theater for. Contrary to the last 3 or so Marvel movies i've seen in theater because friends dragged me and i ended up falling asleep every time.
Movies and shows that I have watched this year in no particular order and not all released this year:
The Beekeeper
Iron Claw
Say Nothing
Altered States
The Substance
Oppenheimer
Peaky Blinders (rewatch)
Kneecap
In The Name of the Father
The Batman
Lord of the Rings (rewatch)
The Departed (rewatch)
Deep Space Nine (haven't finished)
The Devil's Own
Sicario
Additionally, my wife has recently started watching Gossip Girl but I only catch glimpses of that show. Did anybody actually like that show when it came out?
You should check "The Penguin". Somehow better than The Batman.
Additionally, my wife has recently started watching Gossip Girl but I only catch glimpses of that show. Did anybody actually like that show when it came out?
If you think of teenage girls as people, tons of people liked it when it came out. They also liked the books.
MillionsHundreds of beavers.On a projector at home.
A silent film. From 2022.
Bizarre. Stupid. Funny. Silly. Stupid. Cute. Bizarre. And stupid.
★★★★
Hundreds of Beavers? Can confirm. It's a masterpiece.
That's the one.
The reason I believe sequels are doing good is:
- movie theaters have been perverted into massive and expensive hype fests
- in strong opposition, past movie theaters were not expensive to go to and got you entertained in a social setting
- due to the rise of large chains, small and cheaper theaters have died out.
- assumption: the price to rent a movie for your theater will probably be horrendous by now
- sequels have kind of a known quality which lowers the hurdle
- that means new movies could be watched in smaller theaters and would have to be sustainable for those
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There used to be dozens of theaters in a city, each one with a different set of contracts playing a different set of movies. Nowadays there are hundreds of movies in a city, all of them with the same set of contracts playing the same 5 movies.
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Yes, everything is too expensive, what means nobody can afford to take a risk. Not the public, not the theaters, not the studios. (You can see people on this thread commenting that they won't.)
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There are what? 3 movie studios nowadays? Or are those 2? Either way, you can't expect diversity from that.
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I stopped watching almost all franchise and remakes. Horror seems be the only genre worth watching. I had the highest hopes for the creator so much wasted potential.
Horror has been exceedingly formulaic for long while, which cabin in the woods masterfully satirized by flopping, but there have been many innovations recently. Love that practical effects have made a comeback.
Poor marketing and limited theater releases is why and studios can blame themselves.
The huge improvements in TV screens have a lot to do with it too, I think.
When we only had CRT screens at home it was a big jump in quality to go to the theater. But when you have a 4K screen in your living room, there's less reason to go to the theater.
It's not just that they were CRTs.
You can get an excellent picture from the CRT computer monitors of the '90s and '00s, with high resolution (up to 2048×1536—better than 1080p!) and color rendering that's arguably better than modern LCDs.
CRT TVs had low resolution, and NTSC/PAL has pretty bad color fidelity as well, but one of those high-definition CRTs connected to an RGB component video input (VGA or SCART) carrying high-definition content (DVD or Blu-Ray) is another story entirely.
Bullshit. The box office speaks for itself. Maybe YOU want to see new movies. Regular people want the newest superhero shit movie and remakes
Check the meme again
Just get Nick Cage to be in your movie, that seems to be the secret ingredient
This checks out. I think the most recent "original" movie I watched was The Color Out of Space. Not in theater though.
The price of movies is too damn high to go out and watch them. My system at home is far more comfortable and costs barely anything.
How original we talking?
I have seen The Substance (good) in theaters and I saw the TV glow (hated it). I also watched Megalopolis (weird) in theaters and if we want something really original I even last year watched the Onyx the Fortuitous movie in theaters (enjoyed the heck out of it)
I will likely watch Nosferatu in theaters and any smaller movie that puts the effort in and deserves my money.
But I am not paying for the movies that they make just to make money. I don't reward that kind of bad behavior and that afront to art and story telling.
There was a theory somewhere that this is about power play. If you produce Spiderman 245, power shifts away from the director and towards the production company. Less artistic freedom, more money management. If you let the director create their own movie, they are mostly in charge of how things go, movies become more artistic and less focused on money (alone).
I have nothing to confirm this and don't remember the source I have that from except "the internet"
Your comment is compatible with my ideology. It is therefore true.
What makes money is recognition.
Sequels are one way to do that. Another is a big name actor. Another is a big name director. What was the last thing you watched that fulfilled none of those?
Mine is probably Oddity, and I watched it on Jellyfin. It's honestly tricky to find things like that that aren't £2 DVD bargain bin trash from the depths of Netflix.
Hundreds of Beavers.
And I watched it by just sort of holding my eyes open while the video file played on my computer screen.
Does Barbenheimer count?
The Substance was a wild ride
I enjoyed it. Very Cronenberg-esque.
People want to watch good movies. With remakes people want to see the original but with different actors and usually studios fuck them up by trying to fix what wasn’t broke.
Edge of Tomorrow. It was fun. Drag didn't give any money to Tom Cruise, though.
Edge of tomorrow is awesome. When he gets squished rolling under the truck and Bill Paxton asks "What were you thinking numbnuts?"
Yeah, I really enjoyed the central conceit of that movie, which is that it is really fun to watch Tom Cruise die over and over again.
The last one I saw, by release date, was Late Night with the Devil, and I pirated it. I'm glad I pirated it, because I didn't know it had AI slop in it. If I did, I wouldn't have watched it. It's a shame, too, cause otherwise, it wasn't bad.
In theaters: Heretic, and before that The Substance
Recently at home:
Saturday Night
Man on the Moon
I saw the TV Glow
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Wild Robot - Piracy
Hundreds of Beavers - Piracy
Chocolate - Tubi
Don’t remember the last sequel I watched but movies are too long to watch in one sitting
Wild Robot - movie theater
It only cost us about $42 for two tickets, a popcorn, and a soda. The movie was truly wonderful and I don't regret going, but it was our only visit to the theater in 2024 for a reason.
Chocolate, the kung fu movie about the girl with Taskmaster's ability?
That's a fun one, haven't seen it in probably 15 years. I should do a rewatch.
Yes that one
I found the ending disappointing but my Thai friend said that’s what Thai movies do
Beau is afraid. I found a stream of it online (yar matey). It was strange but good.
Real weird film. Wanted to love it more but it's hard to recommend. It's a perfect dream like movie about life but leans a bit hard into the absurdism
The adjective "good" needs to proceed "movies".
Precisely. The problem with some original movies is that they're not great. Of the thousands of movies made every year, probably only a hundred will receive wide recognition and praise, let alone a tidy profit. There is a reason why people are typically skeptical of indie movies.
Wild robot at home, My last theater movie? Spider-Man into the Spider-Verse.
The theaters used to pack everybody in for every show. And they just crank the prices up and up. I'm sure that they think home streaming and piracy is what killed them. But you can buy a TV the price of taking a family afford to the movies.
Sure, it's the customers who decide the market. That's how it works.
I watched A League of Their Own last week. Very watchable, not at all flashy, and refreshingly earnest. I hate that so many modern movies are so wised up and meta, and I find myself watching older movies more and more.
Recently it's been Ghost, Bull Durham, Forrest Gump, and Field of Dreams. (I don't even like baseball, no idea why so many of these are baseball movies!)
The Substance. I streamed it using the free trial to MUBI.
I used to go to the movies weekly as a matter of course and never missed opening weekends. I only saw Dune 2 in the theater this year, and between the IMAX ticket for just myself, a popcorn and a coke it was $60. Plus, I don’t like being in public anymore.
I saw Megalopolis in theatres
I too sometimes pee in my own face.
You have my sympathies my brother in Crisp
- Boondock Saints
- The Wiz
- Corpse Bride
- Joe's Apartment.
I have a bad movie night with family every week, and these were the recent ones. We watched via streaming services.
The last Marvel movie I watched was the end game one. Haven't bothered with another Marvel TV series or movie since. The last star wars movie I watched was the one where Luke projects his appearance and the bad guys shoot it a lot without doing anything. I haven't bothered with any of the other tv series or movies for star wars either.
I'm not the usual customer though. The last movies I saw in theaters was wicked and inside out 2.
The last Marvel movie I watched was the end game one. Haven’t bothered with another Marvel TV series or movie since.
With some exceptions, this was a good choice
The Substance on Netflix
relatively original, and troubling focus with A24/neon cinematography quality. Definitely a must watch movie. Even if you hate it.
Heretic. In theaters, I think opening weekend.
It was, BTW, absolutely fantastic. They absolutely nailed Mormon doctrine and dogma, as well as the practices of missionaries. I highly recommend it.
Finally got around to to watching Guardians of the Galaxy vol. 3. I liked it a lot. Rented it on Amazon Video.
Before that, I watch 'The 5th Wave' which I think falls under the context of OPs question. Rented on Amazon Video. Garbage movie. Saw it because I saw a single clip of the movie that looked good. It was the only part of the movie that was good.
And before that one, I watched 'Smile'. Dumb, lazy, predictable writing. Rented on Amazon Video.
Before that, I watched 'The Edge of Sleep'. Very good series. Also Amazon Video.
Finally, 'The Menu', also Amazon Video. I liked it.
I saw all that for probably the cost of a single movie theater ticket. A matinee ticket right now, for my local theater (ordered online) is $17.60. I think the rent price of each of those movies was maybe $4 and 'Edge of Sleep' is free.
5th wave started strong with a bit of promise, then quickly degenerated into a hot steaming turd.
I hardly watch movies anymore since I find the format limited compared to TV shows.
Last TV show - Slow Horses season 4
Last original movie in a movie theater was probably the Pokemon Movie.
Last movie in a movie theater was Dune part one. (Which for one was a hell of a good remake tbh)
I find the limit to be useful. It prevents random relationship drama and filler.
But I think both film and television series work great for different stories. Having television without a definitive end makes stories weirdly convoluted and meaningless as they try to change another season, just the same as the empty film sequel.
I have a 2 year old so what I find time to see is quite limited. Perhaps my opinion is a result of watching TV-shows adapted from books (Slow Horses), reality (Clarkson's Farm) and crime/thrillers with a "monster of the week" structure, but with a slight narrative over a season (criminal minds)
Slow Horses is so freaking good.
Hmm, either Oppenheimer or Poor Things I think. I support new IPs in Hollywood in concept, but a lot of them just don’t interest me is the problem. Looking forward to Nosferatu this month tho!
The substance last week in a rocking indie theatre. Lots of.collective "ohhhhhhhhhhhh."
Went to the kinoplex to watch Megalopolis, I didn't think it was that bad, the acting was just more like a regular theater than movie acting.
Look Back in the theater
That movie was successful in making my eyes leak in the theater. It's on prime video now.
Red One. It was shit. Don't recommend.
Bummer. I wanted to see that
Watched A Real Pain in the theater with maybe 5 other people.
Last weekend I saw Conclave in the theater. It was pretty good.
It's was sooo good! Really slow and deliberate and tense and at no point did it feel like it was dragging.
I've watched a few older original movies here and there on streaming at home, but I guess the last time I went to the theater for one was Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. I don't really go to the theater much in general anymore. Last time I went was for Dune 2 (mostly because I like the director more so than I'm interested in the franchise) and it was so loud I thought it was going to damage my eardrums.
That aside, if I'm gonna go see something, I want some reason that isn't just brand recognition. A director I like, some good reviews, maybe an interesting premise, etc.
Embrace of the Serpent at home on streaming. Simple and beautifully shot in black and white. It was what I wanted from a movie, a great story that was well told. It’s definitely original.
Snatch. With my eyes.
The last great movie I watched (TV) has been "Arrival". Enjoyed it a lot.
Upgrade was an original movie i saw that wasn't terrible. Although I'm sure the idea of a guy putting an AI in his head plot has been done before.
I think it was The Whale, in theaters with my sister
wtf have they done to the book
Oppenheimer was the latest original movie I watched for the 1st time. I watched it at home... 'nuff said
Civil War in the theater, at home, I just recently watched They Live, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Wizards, and X at home. I have a biweekly movie night group and we were the only ones in the theater for Beau is Afraid.
Heretic in theatre. Was pretty good
Let's Start a Cult, rented it on yt I think. It was decent! It honestly looked pretty good for how low the budget was, and it was pretty funny. Not the most thoroughly written or plotted movie, but still very enjoyable.
I'm going to watch this soon, I almost did last night. Stavvy is based and funny as fuck I have to support him.
Jackpot on amazon prime
Home for the Holidays, saw it Thanksgiving Day using... piracy and Jellyfin.
I've seen other films since, but Transformers One isn't exactly original.
It's good tho.
As a jaded adult TF can, TF1 was the movie I didn't know I needed, and in perfect poetic irony Hasbro has pulled the plug
The best TF movie since the original G1 movie and all done lol
Memoir of a Snail at a theater a few weeks ago. It was a good movie and my partner and I enjoy going to the theater, I regret nothing.
There are original movies? Movies that don't follow the same old 2 peak / 3 act structure?
i wouldnt call a restaurant unoriginal just because they serve food on a plate besides a fork and a knife.
That a false equivalence. The list of story structures is way longer than the list of methods of eating and/or serving food.
I watched The Union on Netflix last night. It was not good.
But that is not a diss on original movies or even Netflix movies I was just not in the mood to search too much. A good original Netflix movie that I still think about it regularly was Annihilation, it really left a mark on me.
Dune if adaptions allowed. The Creator if completly new. In cinema of course.
One new IP coming right up!
Here you go... Rebel Moon
Enjoy(jkjk I love new IP but not all of them are bangers)
A lot of it has been in horror.
I LOVED Smile and Smile 2, and enjoyed the hell out of *Abigail *and M3gan. Another good one is Happy Death Day.
Bad Genius was fun, as was Wolfs.
There's a wealth of original content out there.
I watched "city of darkness" in the movie theatre two days ago, man that was shit. The trailer is all you need.
Asteroid City. Theatre. Weird but entertaining / good.
Marianengraben
I watched it in a movie theater, and brought two friends along to show them.This year I would've loved to see A Real Pain but it was only showing at one theater near me and only for one showing that I couldn't make. For original movies I actually had access to in theaters, last year I saw Dream Scenario, American Fiction, Polite Society,, Theater Camp, Zone of Interest, Problemista and Poor Things. All great. I also watched Rotting in the Sun on Mubi's app and it was just okay.
a Serbian film.
I hate remakes, I normally don't watch them. Even sequels, especially 3rd or more.
But I believe people - generally - do want to watch remakes, (or formualic films based on cartoons), since that's all I ever seem to hear about. People seem a lot more likely to talk about "captain bat-spider 5 the egg-sack years" or "starwars the phantom plot connexion " than anything that seems intertesting to me.
I used to live by a cinema that did cheap mondays a few years ago, I think maybe 'Looper' and 'Sightseers' I remember seeing there most recently. I've doubt I've seen a new film since then.I think they're 'original ish'?
I don't even know where my nearest cinema is in this town, I think theres a small artsy one in town, but for proper cinemas i think you need a car drive out into the sticks fuck that.
All that aside, I liked lethal weapon 5 more than any other lethal weapon film. Does that count?
The Substance
Round and Round, a Hallmark Hanukah time-loop Rom Com that is immeasurably better than it has any right to be. Seriously worth a watch, as is Hallmark's previous and first Hanukah movie, Hanukah on Rye.
I watched Oliver! the 1968 musical a few nights ago, but it's an adaptation of a very famous novel, and based on a Broadway play of it too.
That shading work on the meme tho, excellent
I Saw the TV Glow. Watched it at home and then in theaters when the theater near me did another run of it. Best movie of the year and my new favorite. Arguably the best trans representation in all of cinema, truly a masterpiece
They see that retromarketing works, so they keep doing it
In theaters? Speak No Evil. In general I watched Lars and the Real Girl like a week ago.
Don't watch movies cuz
- far away
- don't know what to see
- Don't have anyone to go with
- Not available in turkey aw shit
I'm ok with number 3.
Define "people." The biggest box office hits have been underbaked trash.
I used to love going to the theater. I would go almost every weekend, and often during the week. I watched almost everything. Then cell phones came along. At one point, many, many years ago, I swore if some mother fucker took out their fucking phone during the movie I was seeing, I would never set foot in a theater again. Some piece of shit mother fucker did, and I haven't. It's been all the open seas for me since. It also helped that affordable larger screens became available for home. I haven't been to a movie in a theater in probably a decade, and I doubt I'll ever go again.
Yup, the death of cinema has more to do with inconsiderate assholes and big screen TVs being affordable now.
Sorry to Marty Scorsese, but I'm not going to the cinema to see some septuagenarians talk about a hit they did decades ago for three and a half hours.
The last movies I saw in theaters was ten things I hate about you and cruel intentions back in 1999. Zone of interest is the last movie I watched. I’m having trouble trying to think of any other movies I’ve watched this year.
I can't speak for all people, but I just don't want Hollywood to add an unwanted aftertaste to my favorite movies. Other than that, they can do whatever they want as long as I can ignore it.
