These people are so upsetting. I know this fantasy of punishing them feels good because of their vile beliefs, desires, and actions. And it would make life easier if we didn’t have to deal with them after they were eliminated.
But dehumanizing someone is what nazis do. I won’t join in. I’ll keep hope that we can deprogram these people, and they then are able to add value to our world.
What's sad is that so many states have added laws saying it's legal to run over protesters, but it's definitely just for running over left-wing protesters not fucking nazis
As an old punk I gotta say you all really, really need to bring back nazi bashing. Get a logo. Make shirts. Encourage face punching. Wear good boots. Fuck those shitheels.
You see, in other countries, these people would be in jail for this. Free speech should have it's limits, when you start calling for violence towards ethnicities, and are proudly calling for the abolition of the democratic process (which is what larping as a Nazi is).
It is wild that this is tolerated in your country under the guise of free speech.
These people should be in prison (being rehabilitated, not being killed, again because that's what a civilised country would do).
the “paradox of tolerance”, really…
the philosophical issue is: who would decide what’s free speech and what’s not?
e.g. i know someone who was charged with “starting a riot” for staying at a protest camp, protesting the genocide in Palestine….
there was nothing close to a riot.
similar protestors have been called antisemitic and supporters of Hamas… by Kamala Harris….
that could easily be flipped to, “oh they’re intolerant of jewish people, not free speech, arrest them all” by some judge or cop somewhere….
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the SPLC has done a good job of suing hate groups when individuals act on their hateful rhetoric… but the very freedom to speak and say “things should be like this!”, must be held as sacrosanct…
~plus, we can follow them home if they speak in public.~
Really paints a good target on them. Hopefully theyll take to wearing them on their clothes in the future, nothing like a good bulleseye straight up center mass.
I don’t understand why they have no fear of this at all. Or maybe they do, hence the guns? Anyway… it’s gross. If nothing else, there should be a parade of normal people following them around shouting stuff. C’mon.
I don’t understand why they have no fear of this at all.
Most people don't want to go to prison or be shot. Even in WWI there were many trenches who organically decided not to shoot each other. So the odds that someone would just open fire are small, even if real. That's also why armed antifascists are also comfortable enough to provide defense at marches and events.
They hide their faces because antifascists put in the effort to let the community know who they are. Many a fascist has lost a six-figure job or been kicked out of home, so they're scared alright.
There was a great piece done by Frontline PBS, where the journalist went around getting as much footage, from as many perspectives as possible, of the unite the right protest, to create a timeline of the violence. He established that it was, in fact, the nazis that initiated violent behavior. On top of this he began identifying nazis who were on camera committing violence. One dude was working on his graduate degree in aerospace engineering, and was working for Boeing. He lost his job, his schooling, and got black listed from the aerospace industry. Another was in the military. This guy was discharged dishonorably. That is a huge blow to any future prospects to have that on your record. These guys begged this journalist not to turn them into their peers, especially their professional ones. They cried on the phone with him when they realized he hunted them down, and had video of them beating people, with nazi symbolism on, with a group of nazis, in a nazi rally. The panic in their voice was so good.
I think it was called Exposing the right, Frontline pbs... but I am not sure. If I can find it I will post the name, or a link.
You know, I recall a band that had a really popular song about this... I think they played it on BBC once... pretty sure their name is... Anger Opposing the Computer? Distress in Conflict with the Machinations? Fury For the Engine? Mildly Upset About the Calculator?
There is no negotiating with this ideology. They turned Europe into Sheol. Uproot them with prejudice. They will kill everyone who is not them once they reach critical mass.
Speaking as an antifascist headsplitter in my youth, you're very wrong if you think electing Harris will get rid of these cockroaches. If anything, it'll cause them to breed.
Is throwing rotten eggs, tomatoes, and cabbages at them considered free speech? How about getting a tractor trailer towing a flatbed, and putting a band with big-ass speakers and a bunch of signs saying "Nazis are coward shitheels"?
Just your average nazi fascist meeting, did you not study the fascism manual from last century in school? They explain it in great detail as well as how to defeat them
I don't know about this group specifically ('Blood Tribe') although most neo-Nazi orgs have one or a few leaders, perhaps ex-military, but are primarily recruiting nerdy alienated teens who spend most of their time online. There are leaked Patriot Front training videos and if you haven't already seen their Philadelphia march, they did crumble like a burnt cookie when the community came out and started punching them back into their U-Haul vans.
Not sure how it would go with guns, but I have little faith in them fighting off more than just spraying a few bullets into a crowd.
Id get my phone recording, ask them if they love the constitution, then when they say yes tell them I love the first amendment. Then id say "Fuck you!" and drive off.
Id do more if i could but id be outnumbered and they have guns so yeah.
It's a tough two-sided situation, because open-carry laws were what allowed the Black Panthers to defend people against police.
This time, the problem isn't the guns but that Nazis are there and comfortable enough to get together and hold them. If there were no guns, it would still be a problem, they just make it worse.