Windows just changed my desktop wallpaper and re-added the search bar without my permission after an update
Windows just changed my desktop wallpaper and re-added the search bar without my permission after an update
In my view, this is unacceptable...
They changed my background (previously there was a default blue window), placed an icon in the bottom corner of the screen that read "Learn more about this photo", and re-added the search bar that I had previously removed.
Fortunately, I don't have to deal with this on a daily basis.
Oh, didn't you know? It's not really your PC any longer.
Fortunately, it's actually mine, cuz I use Fedora with Gnome, which doesn't do these magic tricks 😁
I guess Lemmy is mostly tech nerds like myself, but it's still cool as hell to see another Fedora user around :)
Oh, let me tell you why your [sic] wrong for not using Arch and Ice Weasel! /s 😉
your PC
are they going to backronym PC now that the P can't possibly stand for PERSONAL
Just shuddered at a possible future where someone’s PC locked up with the following notice:
“We have locked your PC because you no longer have sufficient MS funds. One of our technicians will be by shortly to retrieve it. Sit tight, we are downloading its contents. Turning off the internet during this time will lead to strict legal action against you. Thank you for using Microsoft! Be sure to check out the new Surface Ultra and sign up to receive free rewards such a Panago and Ivey Cream!”
Well yea, you turned off the windows search/Cortana/Bing bar, but now it's called copilot/recall bar which you haven't turned off yet.
/S
Soon I won't have to anymore. This is the last Windows virtual machine I have that sometimes I have to use 😀
Chris Titus made this tool. I use it to debloat windows, disable all the telemetry, then pause all feature updates for two years and let only security updates through. As an added bonus (and if you want win11), he added a tool to create a micro windows iso. I am running the micro and it has been fantastic. I even removed defender and other garbage they force on people.
I used a similar tool in the past. When I wanted to re-enable something, I forgot which tool I used to disable it, and I couldn't actually get it working ever again
OUR desktop wallpaper, comrade
They don’t do this shit in Linux.
Come join us, Comrade.
Hmm, on one of the KDE plasma updates, my wallpaper did change to their infamous teletubby wallpaper. Mind you, I was still using the default wallpaper at that time, and this was their new default wallpaper, so that's probably why.
Tell that to Fedora that keeps resetting the Firefox homepage back to a Fedora news site.
I hate that goddamn searchbar
Tell me about it. Useless. The whole start menu is fucked honestly. Can’t ever find anything you’re looking for. WHY THE FUCK WOULD I WANT BING WEB SEARCH RESULTS HERE!?!?
Just booted? Better wait 45 seconds and many failed searches, because DNS isn't resolving.
Doesn't matter that you are trying to launch a local program, it absolutely must delay the user experience until it can successfully resolve a DNS query.
Disgusting
Dont say it... dont say it.... dont saaaayyyy iiiiitt!!!
Have you considered Linux Mint?
Damn... sorry.. was I the first to suggest it this time?
You were, but it appears OP is running Windows in a VM on Linux.
I already use Fedora Linux, and this Windows is in a virtual machine because sometimes my school requires me to use software that simply doesn't run on Linux
You're right though. I recently installed it and it is so much more user friendly and does everything I need it to.
Your computer? You mean Microsoft's bitch box?
Face it, they can do whatever they want with your computer and you're powerless to stop them. They've also been looking through your photos and adding them to their AI model.
Face it, they can do whatever they want with your computer and you’re powerless to stop them.
Not my computer. They can't do shit if it's not installed.
We have to face the reality; Microsoft has got the majority of users by their balls. People don't like M$ per say, but rather the applications,the compatibility, and ubiquitousness of their platform.
Till people get their favourite apps on their desired platform, M$ could start charging $10 a month to access Windows + malware + ads, and people would still rush to buy them.
at this rate the only good versions of windows that are supported are windows 10 LTSC and IoT editions since these are versions of windows used by most corporations schools and goverments thus they need to only get security updates
Most corporations use enterprise or maybe Pro.
Schools mostly use the EDU version.
well there is one thing you can do to stop them
It even did the same thing with enterprise customers. All our machines suddenly started asking us to enable search. Like why do I need another thing when opening the Start Menu and typing is the same fucking thing?? And to fuck with my group policies and undo the customization I had is mega infuriating.
When they tell you they're walking back Recall and it's "off by default", remember that they constantly do this shit.
"We've installed malicious spyware on your computer without you asking for it, but don't worry, it's off by default."
"No." (Installs GNU/Linux)
I'd love to meet the engineers who work on these "features". How do they go along with this shit and sleep at night?
Like the fruit and internet search giant, they forced RTO and all the smart talent left.
So they have the B team, and likely a bunch of H1-B visa engineers that are basically indentured servants writing the code now. It's just a paycheck and survival at this point.
This is why you should not trust them regarding Recall. They will not let it go. It will be forced on you eventually.
don't look now but they've probably installed a new version to Teams along with everything else, lol
I have two versions of Teams installed on my work PC. The regular old Teams that is apparently not long for this world anymore. And New Teams, which is exactly the same as old teams but on a different tech stack (?) That will replace the old one. MS has lost the plot, they have somehow a worse product management than Google.
There's a third Teams
Teams Classic
Teams NEW
Teams Personal
Someone else in another thread I read recently, I think they worked for Microsoft at some point, said that it's due for different departments all competing for corporate attention. Doing the big new thing to keep their job. Rather than just fine tuning for performance or longevity. Something like that.
It was for legal reasons. They split personal teams and work teams to try to dodge an antitrust iirc
But the old one will still be installed so you will just repeatedly get popups to switch
All it did to you was cosmetic.
Windows 10's "feature" updates consistently also re-enable the "fast startup" option on my machine when they install. Which, on my particular motherboard and SSD combination, causes Windows to take about 30 minutes to boot when left enabled for reasons I have never been able to comprehend. A regular cold boot only takes like 20 seconds, so... I definitely tend to notice when it does this behind my back yet again.
It also does it so that you no longer hit the bootloader. My one last dual boot machine is normally a Linux setup, but every so often I have to use the real MS Office tools (some collaborator or publisher demands it), so I boot windows. Then windows patches and stops actually hitting grub so it acts like a windows only machine until I fix whatever Microsoft fucks up yet again.
It's time to move to a VM for this garbage. I just don't neet it more than once every other year so I never seem to get around to nuking it.
My favorite part is how it broke the Intel wifi card during my Linux install until I booted back into windows just to turn fast boot off. Maybe some hackery to skip initializing wifi hardware or something?
Dude, you enlighten me, that happened to me too but it was during the time I jumped between win and Linux and one day did the wifi card just stop working and I couldn't figure out why, I tried many things without luck but some days it magicaly worked again and I haven't been in windows since and have never had that problem again. I don't know if I turned off fast boot (but I have done that many times so it is likely), so it could have been an update that turned it on. I will remember this if it happens to someone or myself again. Thank you!
no no no, it asked your permission. It's just that the "we added back the search bar, is that ok" dialog defaults to "yes" after some short time. Extremely fucking annoying change
the dialog:
I had no dialog
The dialog goes away after a short time defaulting to "yes I want the useless search bar"
It happened on all my PCs, I was infuriated
According to the screenshot the question is only asked embedded in the start menu. Windows 10 does that all the time without actually asking. Win11 is better at actually keeping the configuration.
And they've made Bing your standard browser and activated Copilot.
It's a nice wallpaper though for what it's worth.
your background? Since when is this Windows computer your computer? Microsoft has been very clear that we no longer own our computers if we choose to use Windows.
It's Microsoft Windows' computer. Must've missed that little apostrophe.
VirusOS
VirOS
That one was programmed by Vir Cotto, and Lennier
My windows vm runs Cairo shell as the desktop and I've replaced the file manager with Dolphin and the command prompt with Konsole and notepad with Kate and it almost feels like a usable operating system
Kindows
Get used to it. It is not your machine, its Microsofts.
They're trying to tell you to go outside
At least it's a virtual machine.
I love to extol the virtues of ReviOS. You’ll never have to worry about windows doing things ever again as it rips the guts out of windows. Seriously check it out.
It’s real easy to install.
Also what Linux and theme are you running there?
I've steered away from these as a hangover of trust issues back from the old XP 'lite' ISO days. However since Microsoft is clearly the main source of malware on windows these days I think its time to let that go..
I wish there was an easier way to tell people about Ameliorated and give it a try. Having Windows update and edge removed has already been so much better.
Now I do have to mention that I still run the iso they offered back on version 21H1 which I prefer because installing Windows takes roughly 2 minutes until it's ready to do whatever
Nice, looks really cool. Wanted to do a clean install anyway, will give it a try.
They've absolutely gone mad with power
Isn't this just normal Windows behaviour? I feel like I've been reading these kinds of posts forever.
What VM software are you using?
"Boxes" from Gnome shipped by default with Fedora
I just run Windows 11 Enterprise and don’t see any of this crap
Do tell about this. Are there any downsides? Any compatibility issues with hardware or software?
Hey, got a link to the wallpaper for your main OS? Not the windows one, the red and black one we see part of in the image. Thanks!
It's one of the Gnome default wallpapers
The colors make me think it's one of the Ubuntu default wallpapers.
Why do you subject yourself to this? Cast off your chains, become a free $USER.
It's clearly a VM
Shh you're no fun.
Because it's not our fucking choice, you imbecile. Corporate does as corporate wants. I can't install your precious penguin on my work machine, okay??!
Skill issue, get a better job.
The good old, “If it’s not your source, it’s not your computer.”
This shit is probably worse on windows 11, I'm still sticking with 10 for years even after it's life cycle. And even after it gets hard to use im switching Linux. When my computer dies dies.
Damn, even as a Linux user I get tired with all these "windows bad" posts. Yes, we all know it sucks. No lemmy user wants to use windows.
Poor you!
Yeah, I don't view changing your desktop background when you were using the default as an issue lol.
I agree with you here. As soon as you change something, that should be respected but as long as you use the default theme/wallpaper/… that could just as well mean that you prefer tracking the default or don't care at all.
Now bringing back the explicitly disabled search bar really is atrocious
I'm not sure how you messed up, because this has never happened to me, and I stay up to date.
maybe you need to try again.
Instructions:
- install any windows 10 version released before october 2023
- disable the search bar
- install KB5015684 (or wait 2-3 days for it install automatically)
- windows has added back the search bar "for your convenience"
Probably could’ve worded this better.
Maybe a “What have you all setup to remove these features, how are you running windows, etc “
Best to lead with pure curiosity and questions than to lead with assumptions. We don’t know what we don’t know, and that also means that the depth of what we don’t know could be surprisingly deep.
Stay curious!
