Sideloading won't be enabled where I live

Speak for yourself; I use Free Software.

From the perspective of the people who make the crap, corporations are the users.

To be even fairer, corporations have no inherent "right" to exist, and in fact should not be allowed to exist unless they're acting ethically and serving society.

Ok, but Android wouldn't have to allow sideloading by that logic, yet...

Despite not being forced by governments, no android phone uses a shitty proprietary charger port, nor have they ever. And last night I discovered side loading is possible on my fucking google TV device. Again, no laws require this, it's just called not being a fucking prick.

Not always. Consumers given choice they should go for the product that is best. That way companies have to make the best product. That's competition working.

Like when ps3 offered free online but xbox didn't. That killed the xbox market as everyone could choose a similar product that was cheaper.

Or when apple forced everyone to use their products people went to the Samsung because you could do what you want. That killed apple.

Or when some companies offered subscription model like Microsoft Office, everyone went to alternatives and that killed Microsoft Office.

Honestly I blame people. We had all the information and just laughed in the face of reason. We are choosing to spend more for a shittier product.

i have used an iphone once in my life when i was a kid, and my only memory of it is thinking something was broken because i couldn't open the filesystem on my PC

People would tell me on the age of illegally downloaded or someone legally bought mp3s apple was better because you can't play your mp3s you have to buy them again off apple

Idk why people told you that but it's never been true. iPods didn't give a shit where the mp3 came from, only that it was loaded via iTunes.

From Apple’s perspective it’s not shitty

No shit.

From Hitler's perspective, he was saving Germany too. Why would I give a shit about that perspective?

Apple products are all about stupid proofing.

Where do we draw the line between a functioning computer and chromebook? an IoT device? Stupid-proofing should not come at the cost of basic functionality.

Preventing side loading protects people who don’t know what side loading is.

No, it does not. Users attempting to sideload an app would obviously be warned, not to mention various other methods of malware scanning / sandboxing which can alleviate that non-existant issue.

Those of us who want it are a vocal minority trying to screw up their entire business strategy.

Creating Fisher Price computers is not a valid business strategy, and serves as a detriment for all users regardless of proficency. User freedom is beneficial for absolutely everyone.

" from my point of view, the Jedi are evil"

Anakin sounded like a total ass too when he said it

Their branding: "Apple. Defective by design."

One thing I've learned living in a conservative state in the US is that everything is my fault by proxy

I should just be rich enough to move, how hard can it be

Oh my God that was 8 years ago what the fuck

Vote to rejoin.

When I was your age, I was already 15

Congratulations you made everyone feel old

Excuses excuses.

Reee kids get out

I meant this comment more in regards to your lovely voting peers in the country you have to reside in.

Wish you best of luck rejoining the EU!

Can Russia? Asking for a friend. Obviously Putin relocates to Hauge.

the people who voted brexit werent concerned about a lot considering the post vote google searches for "what is brexit"

Following the last few years the list of topics they were concerned with is growing very slim.

52nd*

Canada and UK act all haughty about being superior to the US but we have MAGA here and the UK has similar, and there is a reason they are called TERF island.

Nah, that's Australia. Australia and the US are closer allies than UK and the US.

We'll see once we sink their tea again!

New Guam, maybe.

boston tea party long game

If these supported phones I actually wanted I'd consider it. Even better if they weren't a pain in the ass to install.

blah! Android forks!

postmarket os is where it's at!

or Ubuntu Touch if you're... that type of person.

Still got to worry about firmware. We don't own shit.

You're going to give it back?

Would have been nice if they actually shipped devices to people who paid.

purism is literally a scam company and shouldn't be promoted

There are no phone OSes that work the way we want, so we should just never say anything, as consumers?

Lineage with F-droid. Or regular linux.

are you thick in the head? and I don't mean the one in your pants.

Proof that Apple sell your data?

we're not part of the EU anymore and therefore not covered by the EU's mandate that is forcing Apple's hand

Wtf are you talking about dude? I think you completely misread those.

If your PS5 is standing upright, you can't load the disc sideways like you normally would because the drive won't be oriented the same way. Duh.

Not sure how that's going to help, but I'm willing to try.

…You forgot your red hat

Well the one thing you're right about is that I don't buy Apple.

Just as long as you get one of the few models that are unlocked or offer a long lifetime of updates.

The ecosystem is the thing holding me here. Everything works so seamlessly and the products are very good (imo). I don’t have to worry that my watch and headphones might not work with another company’s phone, or at least not as good. If there are headphones and watches that would work as well, seamless and long as Apple’s, I’m open to suggestions. Apple might be behind with innovations, but when they implement something, it’s done right (usually)

They typically last longer than non iPhones.

More importantly, I am a middle aged software developer who doesn’t want to customise his phone. I am happy to have a handset where I am limited. Gone are my days of geeking out and customising everything. I just want something that works for me.

My situation is complicated.

I don't know how to interpret this comment

That's where the keyword imagine comes in.

Main point of the argument is that Valve said screw it, and gave everyone refunds, because it was the right thing to do

Why pretending if can be there for real? Not that US minimum wage is not lower than average teacher salary in my country.

I got time. Lay it on me.

There's 3 answers:

1: work (possibly school?)

2: you are a child and your parents bought it.

3: you're weak and let someone else or money make your decision...

I mean the only thing that could make the story "long" is adding in excuses or trying to get sympathy.

Ahh yeah i love that about Android. I never knew apple was so locked down, i should have known though

Enjoy it in there.

I'll join you in a few years. It's not so easy to get that stinking visa.

Before it was edified, there even used to be a part of the model response

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because we don't, that was a slogan the cunts slapped on the side of a bus to get people to vote to leave.

Why would you assume the legislation won’t stop it, they have iteratively corrected legislation to mandate it’s original intent plenty of times

Because just for starters Apple even tried to argue they shouldn't be subject to the legislation because they didn't have one store but multiple stores. Same with iMessage and whatnot.

If you read the legal document about side-loading then Apple could be considered in compliance if they just decided to create a “sideloading program” where you can apply and pay for a special certificate with a vetting process and a lot of restrictions (being a company over a certain size etc). Essentially the same as the current Enterprise program but extended to allow 3rd party stores and distribution of App to random users not part of the same organization.

most recently they’ve begun looking at cookies because the banner wasn’t the intention of the lawmakers.

Yes but do you know what happens? Due to the way the EU works and our constitutions and agreements work we're talking about at least one year of discussions about the issue and then a 3 year period where countries will have to study what was decided by the European Commission and pass national legislation about it. Then you'll have a transition period like (2 more years) until such legislation goes in effect (deadline). So we're talking about around 5 years to get anything practical. We've seen this with USB-C - even before there was USB-C the EU was in talks to adopt a single port (at the time Micro/Mini USB) and it all took about 10 years to unfold.

Apple is very good as twisting things and what's currently written on the proposal doesn't force Apple to open up iOS to be a generic platform like macOS or Windows - it simply asks them to allow 3rd party stores and sideloading of applications outside their store. Doesn't say that anyone should be able do it, doesn't set the terms, doesn't say it should be free.

Je parles en français la plupart du temps, cependant sur Lemmy c'est rarement en français.

Il va simplement falloir attendre que les lois du Canada ainsi que ceux du Québec rattrapent/suivent ceux de l'Union Européenne en ce qui concerne le «Side-loading» dans l'écosystème Apple.

C'est lent, mais ça arrivera ici éventuellement 😆.

or because it was an eu ruling and canada isn't in the eu