How hated must you be when suddenly leftists, tankies, fascists, conservatives and liberals find themselves in quiet agreement about their feelings on your murder. Even the silence from gun control advocates is deafening.
It’s the thing the people who are CEOs don’t want us to think about. It’s not leftists, tankies, fascists, conservatives against each other. It’s them against everyone else.
To be fair, this isn't really a "gun control" type situation. A single, targeted, killing, would have been just a successful if it were done with a knife instead. The gun control arguments are more applicable to spree killings.
I mean, the guy would have been able to write their whole message on one knife rather than needing three bullet casings to get it across.
So I guess environmentalists and the metal industry (Big Metal?) would probably care a bit?
Did...did the good guy with a gun finally show up?
He's got milk and cigarettes for everyone!
That's why the ruling class pushes all the wedge issues and divisiveness they do. If we could talk to each other, we'd find we had more in common than otherwise expected. I thought the recent surge in union activity could have continued to a general strike across the nation. The rich know what unites us and actively seems to keep us fractured so we don't realize our combined power.
Maybe this dude will be a catalyst in a revolution that sets these disgusting, wealthy leeches in their place.
Kind of seems like there's no war but the class war.
The few precious moments of shared class consciousness.
There's nothing quiet about the agreement on Lemmy over this.
The quiet part is the agreement with others you completely disagree with almost always, and even often despise.
"Quiet"?
find themselves in quiet agreement
Nothing quiet about it.
People aren't happy someone was murdered. People are happy that the physical representation of an industry that should prioritize health and treatment but only prioritizes profit got what it probably had coming to it.
I’m kinda happy. Hope it happens more too. Aaaand ima get banned aren’t I?
I for one wholeheartedly endorse this violence for it's reasons.
I mean fuck it. Reddit banned me for endorsing violence with a tongue in cheek comment that really didn't endorse shit despite how I made and grew one of the most famous subreddits.
Nothing is safe when a dude over there can make rotten decisions you can't physically do shit about. I'm gonna support the "physically do shit about it" people. Getting banned from Reddit did my health wonders.
No mods, I didnt see any comment.
RIP ur account when an admin sees it
Aaaand ima get banned aren’t I?
What is this, reddit.com? There's no bourgeois advertisers or venture capitalists to appease here. [0]
edit: just noticed your account is registerd on lemmy.world...... consider exploring other instances just in case they get out the banhammer. but, I mean, they can't ban all of you.
not ne.. your .world yeah your banned
And it also shows the rich getting to experience the find out part after constantly fucking around.
I'm glad he was offed. People like that simply don't deserve to live. If you despise human life, why should yours be respected at all?
This coming from a non-american, anti-religious misanthropist.
I’m just here so I don’t get fined
It was a PERSON that was murdered.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_murder
So were all the people who died from denied care so he could buy a yacht or fourth house or whatever.
How many people died to make his company more money?
It was a PERSON that was murdered.
So was Jeffrey Dahmer.
Brian had a way higher k/d ratio though, so thats really unfair to Jeffrey.
Doubt
I mean, sort of.
Yeah, but the person was a murderer to begin with.
The kind of PERSON who celebrates profiting off of making people suffer by snorting coke off his buddies cocks. Deny, defend, depose.
nooo how dare you push the lever :(He wasn't a rock?!??
nah
Been saying it since 🔔Limbaugh🔔. The idea that we need to pretend it isn't a good thing when evil people die is some Disney channel bullshit
champagne
lol
I was thinking earlier... maybe all the lessons in the saturday morning cartoons were really intended to keep the masses from fighting back. I mean, no, the good guys don't always win in the end. And cheating sure as hell does payoff. They want the masses to take the high road. While they tunnel through anything in thier way.
Yep, I sometimes really feel that that kind of people (you know what I mean) never progressed their morality past Disney cartoons that have it all dumbed down so that toddlers can grasp the concept of right and wrong.
The evil ones die in tons of Disney movies. That's where mostly the US of A got their brains washed and consequently celebrate a public execution without due process.
I think they're talking about Cruella, a movie where the "heroine" would eventually go on to want to kill and skin puppies. There's also Maleficent, but I don't know enough about that one to comment.
I also think there's a lot of Hollywood heroes that are really villains and the movie is just reflecting the author's fucked up world view. The Kingsman is a good example. Can we stop writing environmentalists as villains?
In a lot of stories, due process isn't something that comes up because of time constants and scope of the villain's ambitions, but there's something wrong in the writer's room for The Flash TV series. Agents of Shield would eventually deal with super nazis and alien invaders, but Flash was dealing with bank robbers and locking them up in their secret prison.
One down...
That's a horrible sentiment. Don't condone evil.
Letting countless people die to make money isn't evil?
Of course not. We're condemning the evil and praising a hero. Heroes kill monsters, ya know.
I'll reword it for you: First down...
Really puts me in the Christmas spirit
Thank you for the giggle kind stranger.
Dude murdered countless with the stroke of a pen. What was that one song they sing in Chicago?
🎶 He had it comin' 🎶
🎵 He only had himself to blame 🎵
Funniest thing since Titan submersible.
That was just fate
I'm not sure going around shooting people is quite as ironic
Funny? No.
A good start? You betcha.
Correct. It's absolutely hilarious.
Do it again please! I almost got the joke. Just need to be sure!
I don't think it's funny, more like it feels good to see an atom of justice done for once. One murder changes nothing, it has no value as far as changing the system, but the symbolic value is through the roof.
Here's the thing: even if we change the healthcare system tomorrow, they get to keep their billions. We can change the system, but there will be no justice because one of the principles of our legal system is that justice isn't retroactive. So seeing one of the guilty parties killed is an example of retribution that is very rare and exhilarating.
Just not funny per se
one of the principles of our legal system is that justice isn’t retroactive
There have been plenty of cases in history where this didn't hold.
King Charles I of England. King Louis XVI of France (not to mention the rest of his far-less-culpable family). Many prominent Nazis post-WWII. When society collectively decides that someone's actions were heinous enough and caused enough harm, at a certain point a law can be created and applied retroactively, often on the grounds that there was a clear violation of some greater principle that should be self-evident.
Yeah, it’s heartwarming
Just as a comment, not a suggestion: a society that squeezes its people has to either repress them hard, or at some point expect it to start boiling over. The mob lynching the leaders is what happens once the mob gets desperate enough and are not heard.
And said repression often is one of the last straws before the people reach boiling point. :)
Is anyone, not virtue signalling, truly upset by this? It looks like a good, but small beginning of a purge long overdue.
Upset? No. More like a little uncomfortable. Partly because I'm an idealist who always hopes for the best and most moral and peaceful solutions. Partly because it makes me uncomfortable how little I am angered by this. Sure I absolutely do not want proles to go and kill the bourgeoisie... but I guess it's not... I don't feel the need to condemn this. Sometimes things are just... shrug
But it's really just a little uncomfortable, like a sock not quite fitting my foot.
I am far FAR more uncomfortable with someone calling this the good but small beginning of an overdue purge.
Sometimes violence is the right answer. I'm comfortable with this.
Upset?
Yeah, a little. Not that he was killed, only that it was a pointless gesture that wasted an opportunity.
Call every crime tipline and report the person responsible for this death and many others - That person's name was Brian Thompson.
Still reminds me of the time they sent out a sketch of the uni bomber and musician/professional jokester Weird Al did this
"You get what you fuckin' deserve."
I feel for his family and loved ones. I’m not celebrating his death. I’m just not surprised by it.
On a personal level, yeah it's got to be a shock. On the other hand they profited off of the suffering of others. My empathy is limited.
Right. The situation could directly correlate. The guy responsible for limiting access to physical and mental healthcare for millions was shot and killed in a premeditated murder. He’s fucking with millions of physically and mentally ill people. Granted, this is the most extreme repercussion for his actions, but it’s not like he’s some random CEO.
I doubt they lost any sleep knowing their dad killed thousands by denying them coverage. Why would i lose sleep for them? Hell, they are probably looking at a juicy life insurance payout, which is more than any of us will get when United kills our loved ones.
I'm celebrating it.
As cruel as it is, I can't help but make the joke
Thoughts and prayers.
God was like: This guy has done enough
Are they going to donate all of his ill-gotten gains to a healthcare charity?
I feel for the people who loved him. Not convinced he loved anyone but himself though
Well put.
I feel bad for his kids, seeing the country laugh and cheer at their father's death.
He still earned it, though. Hopefully this inspires them not to follow in his footsteps.
Not just a CEO but a shit human.
It gives me hope that maybe the distant future doesn't include a privileged class using the rest of us as free labor, fuel, and food...
I work in the insurance industry (though not directly for an insurance company) and while it's a small sample size, employees there range from apathetic to rolling their eyes at the "poor CEO needing money for his funeral"
Insurance is a gamble with money. Noone cares. Health-insurance is a gamble with life. If you work for Hitler, you are Hitler. At least the nazis back then could blame it on cluelessness and not knowing. You can't. If you meant THIS kind of insurance.
You can't spell murder without laughter.
You're thinking manslaughter
LMAO
Yes.
The problem is that now the rest of them will fortress up making it much harder.
But this will cost them. Make it so expensive that they won't gain anything.
That's 50/50. At some point a guard will say it's not worth it.
I really wondering if the detectives in charge of the investigation are bring their A-game or if maybe they have a loved one who was denied coverage.
Its all his counterparts at the other insurance scams that I'm laughing at. Suddenly they are considering their actions have consequences they can't control with more lawyers.
This is the thing.
While I doubt it'll have any actual difference being seen by anyone anywhere, if this killing were followed up by a few more, or even a dozen more in short order, you would see change.
Most of it not the kind we'd hope for (tightened security, lockdown corridors for high profile individuals, even less access and interface with these people, etc....not concessions to decency, honesty, civility, humanity, etc.) but you bet your ass that it'd be living rent free in the back of every CEO and billionaire on the planet for a long time.
I didn't impart the idea that it would change things. Just that for once those horrible people have felt the truth. The truth is that no one is safe even if someone isn't out to get them. Now they are certain that someone is out to get them. It won't make them better people. Pretty much the opposite.
This can be the start of our revolution
🍽🍽🍽🍽🍽🍽
My theory is that it's just that episode of Its Always Sunny from the new season. Dennis is placed on a customer service loop and eventually gets so frustrated with robot receptionists, scripted tier 1 support, and a system designed to waste our time and pit us against each other, that he tracks down the CEO of the car company at his beach house and rips his heart out of his chest and eats it.
So maybe someone should try that next time?
Yeah well Brian can get fucked.
Not anymore he can't.
Well not....in a traditional sense...
You just have to exhume his worthless corpse first.
Do I think it’s funny?
No, it’s just… interesting:
Hey look, karma
Hi-larious
The lack of the joker's line disturbs me.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OtxH414tGkA That's one.
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The joker is the worst one to use here regardless of the universe you use. In that particular universe he's more akin to the weird fucking red pill/mra movement than an anti capitalist since he was loosely based on Bernie geatz. It's why the maga sphere went crazy for what was a series of terrible movies that they entirely miss the point of.
The core message of that movie was anti capitalist, with added messaging on the effects of a deteriorating quality of life/mental health system.
I think the message is that there's a thin line between the hero and the villain. The villain feels the same anger and desire for justice we all do. Just add a bit of delusion, and you can turn Gandhi into Hitler, or Batman into the Joker.
It's really not though, it's about modern moral failings and their outcomes that happen to have economic effects and notably none of the issues persued in the movie are exclusive to capitalist models.
The Batman universe is to some degree anti capitalist but the protagonist being one of the richest people in the planet who cannonically got that money by theft, violence and arms dealing kinda cancels that out.
You can read what you want into it but it specifically was not anti capitalist. It's outright glorification of the Bernie geatz model, ie. A crybaby lower middle class white man who goes bat shit on the subway and blames literally everyone else but himself.
Similarly Bernie geatz was very much a capitalist.
