Several social media users, including commentators and reporters, on Wednesday claimed that Democrats are allegedly sitting on a 'bombshell' video showing former President Donald Trump 'groping a minor' at a donor event. No official or Republican campaign member has reacted to the claims yet. There ...
No video released yet but the right wing blog-sphere is already claiming it's AI. Put on your seat-belts and keep your hands inside the car at all times.
I think what's even sadder is that so-called moderates and centrists won't care. Trump didn't win in 2016 due to his cult. He won because everyday people recognized how fucked up he was and decided they didn't care.
I grabbed her titty. She asked me too. With a tear in her eye she said please please please Mr. Trump touch my titty. I obligated. I couldn't help it. I had to. She was so innocent. It was a perfect titty touch.
"When it comes to fondling tits, everyone tells me I'm the best - that's what they all tell me. I can't help it - I see a beautiful woman and I have to do it, and they let me, you know, because I'm famous and they love it, they'll let you do whatever you want. My friend Jeffrey Epstein always said that, and boy we had a lot of fun, he really knew how to find em, the greatest most beautiful young women, whenever we wanted we'd grab em and kiss em and anything else, though none of them could compare to my beautiful Ivanka... anyway Alexa play Ave Maria"
As hard as it is to listen to talk radio it's also kind of fun to catch the nuances in their bullshit. Someone accuses Trump of praising Hitler and immediately they say, "Wow! This is such a desperate play from the Democrats!"
I hate the man and I'm saying I don't think he's this stupid. He wants to get re-elected too much to do something so reckless.
Has he assaulted other women? No fucking doubt. But not two weeks from the election at a campaign event with a ton of reporters around him. It's not believable.
If anyone produces multiple bowls of spaghetti from behind their backs we'll know it's AI... Otherwise it already sounds like plausible behavior for someone who bragged about "grabbing 'em by the pussy".
That's the thing to remind people about - he's already said he gropes women. He's already said he walks in on minors at teen beauty pageants.
You're right about that minor detail, I must have misremembered - because it's actually multiple minors who have spoken up as victims of his predations:
On the heels of the damaging videotape on which Trump and former Access Hollywood host Billy Bush salivated over Days of Our Live actress Arianne Zucker, and joked about sexually assaulting women, came allegations that Trump entered the Miss Teen USA changing room where girls as young as 15 were in various states of undress.
Mariah Billado, Miss Teen Vermont 1997 told BuzzFeed, “I remember putting on my dress really quick because I was like, ‘Oh my god, there’s a man in here.'” Three other teenage contestants from the same year confirmed the story.
...and their issues with the page (from the tags at the top) are too often it uses Trump's own admissions as the source, and that it needs to be updated. Both of which indicate just how into doing this sort of stuff he is.
Absolutely 100%. Taking advantage of a minor is wrong no matter what.
However, the word you used describes an attraction, not actual rape. And in that case there is a big difference because being attracted to mid to late teens, which is a perfect normal and healthy sexual attraction, and pedophilia, which is a disorder. This is the same science that confirms homosexuality and trans identity are perfectly normal, and rejecting this science is no different than rejecting that people can be gay and trans.
I know I'll be piled on because of the pedophile panic that has gripped so many people, but I don't care because I think it's important for people to understand this. After watching the suffering of gay and trans people, first hand, being treated like deviants or that there is something wrong with them I can't stand by while people treat other normal and healthy people as if they are fucked up. It's not right.
Why would they tease it and not release it? Where does this claim even come from? The article just says the sources are "Several social media users, including commentators and reporters". Then it seems like all the people tweeting about it are right wingers. I'm suspicious. Could be a distraction from the more credible stories about Trump loving Hitler and shitting on a slain soldier for having an expensive funeral for a Mexican.
It would be a wild choice for a distraction. The rumors claim that the person with the video is shopping it around. They want a payday before they give the video to anyone. Sadly, that means that a deep-pocketed Trump ally could do a catch and kill and never release it.
As someone who had to sit through a seemingly unending stream of videos of Biden sniffing hair etc, none of which were as damning as the people boosting them claimed, I really hope they either don't release this, or it actually is what it claims to be, not some similar crap.
"Donald Trump loses his balance and accidentally makes contact with a girl's butt" or similar ambiguous clip is probably not going to do anything except make me have to start ignoring videos of Biden sniffing hair again when magas start posting them in retaliation or whatever.
"Closes his eyes for a couple seconds"? Yeah, Trump spending a half hour of his rally walking the stage aimlessly to music was probably just his whimsical side, not a sign that his mind is anything less than razor-sharp. Libs these days will exaggerate ANYTHING!
Bro he can't hold a plastic water bottle with one hand, he's definitely sundowning even if the claims about those clips are (pardon the pun) trumped-up
They're the party of "PEDOPHILES SHOULD BE KILLED, DEAD PEDOPHILES CAN'T REOFFEND, I HUNT PEDOPHILES, AND IT'S TOTALLY NORMAL AND NOT PROJECTION THAT I'VE MADE THIS MY ENTIRE IDENTITY." Which is effectively the same thing but is slightly different.
PEDOPHILES SHOULD BE KILLED, DEAD PEDOPHILES CAN'T REOFFEND, I HUNT PEDOPHILES
Always weirds me the fuck out when I see this stuff. Like, my dude, pedophiles are quite universally reviled, even amongst hardcore criminals, why the hell do you feel the need to loudly signal this ?
This is just conspiratorial garbage. That article is garbage. I would love for something like this to take him down, but if you think this has any credibility, please realize that your ability to critically analyze new information is ridiculously clouded by confirmation bias.
Did Charlie Kirk tweet that? If so, I'd believe it's 100% for real and they're trying to get out in front of it. Like many posters below point out, his base won't care.
The tweet is vague. We've seen ai been used already in this election to spread misinformation, so it's saying Democrats might do so could refer to literally anything.
But when put in the context of this supposed tape, it dishonestly makes it sound like they are talking about it.
Don't get me wrong, I'd be happily wrong about this, but this is literally nothing right now.
The fact that the some of the most immoral spin-doctors that aren't directly related to the Trump campaign -- Posobiec and Kirk for starters -- are clearly trying to get out in front of some sort of bad news that, based on their comments, appears to be a video grants more weight to claims than this random article.
That being said, whether there is actually a video or they're reacting to the same rumored threat is unknown. Even if it were true, I honestly don't know if it would make enough of a difference for Trump's supporters. And, again if true, the longer they hold the video and allow advance spin and damage control to run unopposed, the less effect it will have. The simple fact is that Trump supporters would then be looking for any reason to simple dismiss/ignore it, and they will undoubtedly be given many reasons by affiliates of Trump's campaign.
are clearly trying to get out in front of some sort of bad news that, based on their comments, appears to be a video grants more weight to claims than this random article.
This is a lot of assumptions. They are constantly saying Democrats are about to do something bad. It's part of their shtick, and they are just trying to keep people afraid.
But even if we agree and they are clearly trying to get out in front of something that doesn't make anything we put into that hole "has more weight."
Stacey Williams was born in 1968 which would have made her 25 years old in 1993 when this groping took place, so I believe I'd prefer some source other than timesnownews for a story about Trump groping a minor, before sinking my teeth into an October surprise that clearly has no basis in discernible truth yet
Yeah, Chrome is telling me that HTTPS sends an invalid response (maybe the site is overloaded?), and my TP-Link router is telling me that the HTTP site is on their malware list.
I'd like to see the video first. Claims of a video are pretty meaningless. It's a lot like saying you have a concept of a plan.
Nevertheless, I hope it's not fucking true, because if it is true, that means some poor woman was victimized, will probably never get to see any justice because the legal system refuses to hold Trump accountable for anything, and it won't move the needle an inch in terms of the blind deference Republicans give to Trump.
I'm unfamiliar with this news site, but they must know they have to do better on sources, because this sounds like reporting on rumours.
"Several social media users, including commentators and reporters..." (emphasis mine).
Interesting that the right is already accusing them of potentially using deepfakes in the future. Maybe they know of something captured in video, or maybe random blanket statements of innocence are necessary with a knob end like Trump.
Any video of the Man who bragged about grabbing Women by the Pussy and who was friends with Jeffrey Epstein and who Perved on Underage Beauty Pageant participants is OBVIOUSLY AI! DRAG QUEENS!
I can all but guarantee that this won’t sway a single one of his voters. In fact, watch that this doesn’t get him even more support. They love circling the wagons when their beloved king is in trouble.
This is being pushed as the October surprise on X. The MAGA Cult is so far gone I don't think much will change their mind at this time. "It was Gods will he groped her."
The maga cult already believes that women have fewer rights than men. A woman being groped isn’t going to sway them in any direction but even more toward trump.
The guy would walk in the dressing room of the Miss TEEN USA pageant, that he owned, while they were changing. Of course he’s groped minors. Unfortunately, there won’t be a video of this happening. Guaranteed.
That's... Interesting. This site is considered to have a significant right bias, but it's still reporting on these claims, and seems to give them credibility. OTOH, Times Now News has a very mixed record on facts, so this might be total bullshit.
We'll see what happens. If it's real, and it comes out with a week left before the election, that might be just enough to tip the scales. Maybe.
I'm thinking of the voters that are at the margins, not his core demographic. I agree that MAGAs are going to be unswayed no matter what. But there are def. voters that are thinking about personal finances, and think Trump will be better for their wallet (spoiler: he wouldn't be), and you might be able to peel them off if something really gross came out just before they voted. Or peel enough of them off to make a difference.
But is it a bombshell? Most voters are already decided. Trump's flock will ignore any bad news about him, and the rest won't be convinced to vote for Harris any harder than they plan to or have already done. The vision being fed to us, of a nail-biting race seesawing back forth, is just clickbait for ads,
No, I don't buy it. He's awful. He's a fascist. He has assaulted lots of women (when there were no cameras). I don't believe he'd be this self-destructive at this moment when he needs to win to stay out of prison.
yeah I don't buy it either. a) I don't trust anything on TikTok b) Why is everyone talking about a video when a video doesn't seem to exist? If it exists show it
Oh, of course, doing that would be highly irrational. Asinine, even. Only a complete fucking idiot would do it. But you remember who we're talking about, right?
Nah, this doesn't pass my smell test. If anything of this magnitude existed, it would be published before early voting started. But deepfakes, and AI are coming, well they're here.. but uhh that's not real. So that's not really a story.
My gut says that most of the people who vote early have already had their minds made up for a long time and not much would change their vote one way or the other, otherwise they'd probably wait until the day of to see what new information might come to light in case it changes their mind.
And in general Democrats vote early in higher numbers than Republicans. This wouldn't do much to change how the Democrats vote (what are they gonna do? Say "well I wasn't going to vote for they guy anyway, but now I'm really not gonna vote for him?") but you would at least hope it would for some Republicans (though that might be wishful thinking.) Since more of those Republicans are going to be voting in-person it may have made sense to hold this back so it was still fresh in their mind when they actually go to the polls.
Just my 2¢ on the matter. Take it for what it's worth.
This is a fair point, and I agree that could be the strategy. Really I just hope it didn't happen, and there's no one victimized, and never something that could be recorded.