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Artist is Suing Copyright Office For Refusing to Register His AI Image
  • The basic legal test has to do with control over the output. A prompt is not control. If you tell Stable Diffusion "draw a dog playing chess" then you do not control the creative choices made in the image. Thus, they are not protected.

    That's why Pollock paintings can be copyrighted: the key creative choices were controlled by Pollock. He wanted some blue streaks in one area and some red streaks in a different area.

    To the extent that AI output can be controlled, it can be copyrighted. If you take a photo and tell an AI, "desaturate this photo" then there is only one possible outcome. The lack of color in the product was fully under your control. Likewise if you say, "Copy dog.gif from my Documents folder to the bottom left corner of the image".

    On the other hand if you say, "Add a dog to the image", then not so much. Who determined what the dog would look like? Not you. So the dog is in the public domain.

    And once in the public domain, it will likely remain there even if you iterate your prompts, like "Elongate the snout and widen the eyes". For the same reason that you generally cannot copyright an image of the Mona Lisa even with minor alterations.

  • Artist is Suing Copyright Office For Refusing to Register His AI Image
  • Yes, he wanted a blue streak in the upper left. That doesn't mean he intended every last drop of blue paint exactly as it landed. He is nevertheless responsible for every drop of paint, because he controlled the paintbrush and he is the one who caused them to fall where they fell.

    Likewise, a surgeon wants to cure a patient with a scalpel. He doesn't necessarily intend every complication that happens to the patient. He is nevertheless fully responsible, because he fully controlled the scalpel that caused those complications.

  • Artist is Suing Copyright Office For Refusing to Register His AI Image
  • To the extent that you do not control a physical paintbrush, you lose your claim to copyright.

    If you left a wet brush on a piece of paper and came back the next day to find the wind had blown it across the paper leaving a paint streak, that paint streak could not be copyrighted. You fully relinquished control of the brush to the wind.

    In dealing with computers, the concept of "random" isn't real.

    Arguably the same is true of the wind. So to claim copyright, you cannot relinquish control to an inanimate object. Not to the wind, not to an AI.

  • Artist is Suing Copyright Office For Refusing to Register His AI Image
  • Being in control does not mean achieving what you "want" or intend.

    You are in control of your car, even if you unintentionally hit a tree. Likewise, Pollock controls his paintbrush, it is held by his hand which only he can move. If he flicks paint on his friend's new jacket that might not be his intent, yet he is still 100% responsible for that outcome.

  • Artist is Suing Copyright Office For Refusing to Register His AI Image
  • You directly control every pixel on your paintbrush, whether you want to or not. Who else controls it? It can only move when your mouse moves, which can only move when you cause your hand to move.

    In contrast, you have some control over MidJourney output, but not direct control. Something could appear in the output that you did not cause.

  • Artist is Suing Copyright Office For Refusing to Register His AI Image
  • Movies aren't made solely by the director, but certain requirements must be met before one can claim copyright. Hundreds of people can offer their input but not be eligible for copyright, because offering input is not sufficient. There must be some direct control over an element of the output, whether that's the cinematography, writing, or soundtrack.

    It's true that inanimate objects can't claim copyright but that does not remove the requirement for direct control. If no human has direct control then the rights revert to public domain, for example no human has direct control of a sunset so a sunset cannot be copyrighted.

  • Artist is Suing Copyright Office For Refusing to Register His AI Image
  • I think your approach would not work in practice. The test is not how it plays out when people are cooperating, but what happens when there is a dispute. And if the principle is "providing some input gives ownership" then the photographer, photographer's assistant, agent, employer, and employer's ex-wife will all sue each other over ownership.

    In the music industry, you need to actually perform a piece to claim performance credit or specify the verses of a song that you personally wrote to claim writing credit.

  • Artist is Suing Copyright Office For Refusing to Register His AI Image
  • However, when I start to force my will upon the photographs,

    This sounds like a very easy test for an employer to pass. They force their will simply by telling you what to shoot.

    But I gather that you won't give them ownership quite so easily, they need to control every aspect of how you take the photos and thus reduce you to a "tripod".

    You can't have two standards. Which is it? If merely exerting will is enough, then employers always own what photographers produce. If some degree of independence beyond a tripod allows the photographer to claim ownership, then AI users can't claim ownership.

    Can you articulate a single principle that is valid for both employers and AI users?

  • Artist is Suing Copyright Office For Refusing to Register His AI Image
  • Why do you say your employer has no intent? They hired you with a particular product in mind after all. And they can do everything that you do with an AI: evaluate the results and tell you to try again.

    What, specifically, do you do with an AI that an employer cannot do with a photographer?

  • Artist is Suing Copyright Office For Refusing to Register His AI Image
  • You may not like it, but legally copyright is not based on intent. That's why if a couple hired you with the intent to shoot their wedding then they do not have copyright over your work. As a photographer you control the photos and thus retain copyright even when the intent of your photos is dictated by your employer.

    The functional relationship between the employer and the photographer is basically the same as the relationship between the AI user and the AI.

  • Artist is Suing Copyright Office For Refusing to Register His AI Image
  • Copyright doesn't cover the output of training. But AI companies are being sued over training input.

    If you want to download a bunch of images from the Getty catalog, you need permission from Getty. If you don't have their permission and download them anyway, you can be sued. It doesn't even matter whether those images are used for training or some other commercial purpose unrelated to AI.

  • Artist is Suing Copyright Office For Refusing to Register His AI Image
  • You're basically arguing that you can't copyright every hair on the head of your model. And you're probably right!

    Imagine I published a photo that was exactly like yours, except I edited the model's hair color. Even though my image is not identical to yours, it has the same model, pose, lighting, framing, etc. These were all things that you intentionally controlled. You could argue on that basis that I violated your copyright.

    Now imagine I published a photo with a different model, different lighting, different framing, different background, different everything except, by chance, the hair on my model's cheek matched the hair on yours. If you admit that you didn't even try to control that, you would have a much harder time proving I violated your copyright.

    Likewise, suppose my painting of a flower vase contained a drop of paint splatter that by chance matched the fine texture of a drop on a Pollock painting. Pretty unlikely that would be a copyright violation.

    To the extent that an artist gives up control of their work, they lose the ability to copyright it. The extreme case is the monkey selfie, where the artist (initially) admitted they had no control over the output and thus no basis for copyright.

  • Artist is Suing Copyright Office For Refusing to Register His AI Image
  • In your edited photos, a judge can point to any part of the photo and ask, "In this particular part of the photo, why is there this particular hue?" And you can answer, "Because I desaturated it or I adjusted the tone curve or I snapped the photo when I saw that hue in the viewfinder". There is no possibility that 100% desaturation can result in any color other than grayscale. There is no possibility that a desaturation slider will sharpen the image instead of desaturating it. You know what will happen every time you make an edit. That's creative control.

    In an AI generated photo, at some point the prompter will answer "Because that's what the AI produced after my prompt, and I accepted the result". In other words, in some parts of the image the prompter could not predict what the result of a prompt would be, but they approved of the result after the fact. It's entirely possible that a prompter could get unexpected results from their prompt. That's direction, not creative control.

  • Biden sets out new Israeli proposal to end war in Gaza

    www.bbc.com Israel-Gaza war: Biden sets out new Israeli proposal to end conflict - BBC News

    US president urges Hamas to accept the three-phase plan, saying "it's time for this war to end".

    Israel-Gaza war: Biden sets out new Israeli proposal to end conflict - BBC News

    Ending the Gaza war: Three phase proposal

    PHASE ONE

    • It would begin with a six-week ceasefire, during which the IDF would withdraw from populated areas of Gaza
    • Hamas would release "a number" of hostages - including women, the elderly and the wounded - in exchange for hundreds of Palestinian prisoners. Some remains of dead Israeli hostages would be returned to their families
    • Palestinian civilians would return to their homes in all areas of Gaza
    • Humanitarian assistance would "surge", with 600 trucks a day entering the strip, and hundreds of thousands of temporary housing units sent by the international community

    During that six week period, negotiations mediated by the US and Qatar would continue. If successful, the next part of the plan would begin.

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