I've had this conversation with the lady at the really good deli down the road from me! When I occasionally have a rare chance to go in there she says "we never see you anymore!" And I have to always remind her they only serve lunch from 11am to 3pm, my work starts at 11 and my lunch break is at 330 lol
This. If you work during the day anywhere around my town you have a good 30 minutes to do shopping before all the stores close at 4:30.
Never understood those hours, they lock out more than half of their potential customers
Add those local businesses for food or service type things that are more weekend things, but they close on Sundays cause JEBIS!
Fortunately lots of them also post political shit up in their business or signs whining that nobody wants to work, so I don't even want to partake in most of them anyway.
If I see a sign in a business whining about workers or people not wanting to work, I will straight up leave and go somewhere else. Tells me everything I need to know about how the owner treats their workers.
This is exactly why we should have 4 day work weeks. Especially when you replace "shop" with "doctor's office"
Doctor? Why would employers want you to see a doctor? If you make it to retirement age they have to pay that out and miss out on a cheaper replacement!
What you need are good laws, not so much a 4 day work week. I just go to the doctor during office hours and tell my employer I have to go. I even get paid time off for it, like everyone else working in this country. Same for the dentist or any other kind of medical thing.
Sure, it's not always optimal if you work in some sort of shift, but they are required to make sure you can go.
By the way, not that I wouldn't appreciate a 4 day work week, but this seems like a bit of a stretch to say that this is the reason why you would need one.
Yup. This is the way.
But I live and work in the US which means I have no paid days off at all and even if I tell them I have something to do they can call me to tell me to work and be upset if I don't immediately come to the aid.
I really wish we just believed in reasonable work life balance but I will accept a shorter work week but that's just gonna go to the upper classes only again.
Where I live, everyone gets paid leave when they need to see a doctor during working hours. Same is true for everything else that is "important".
So 4 day work week for you, but 5 day work week for everyone else you would want to visit on Friday?
Nah, we should have different days off, duh. Let me have Wednesdays off, some peeps can have Fridays.
Actually, I would prefer to have weekdays off instead of weekends, easier to focus with less people at work.
Wait until you hear about banks lol
They open after everyone's at work and close before anyone finishes work
Because fuck you, that's whyBecause banks’ primary customer is not Joe Everyman who works a 9-5. Their primary customers are other companies. Your checking account is barely even a drop in the bucket compared to the billion dollar company that has five hundred accounts set up for their various incomes and expenses.
Funny thing is they’re there working after public hours. What are they doing? No one knows
guess the're counting the money they ripped off from you without you noticing anything. counting that much can take hours !! ;-)
A lot of bs paperwork and recounting, mostly.
No, because originally banks were for the wealthy that didn't have to keep another man's hours.
Sure, their physical office is closed outside of business hours, but they have a 24/7 website and a call centre that runs late into the night. The last time I physically visited a bank was years ago and they actually couldn't answer my question and referred me to their call centre instead.
Bank: Perfect.
Seriously, I found out that my bank chain switched their opening hours to being 10a-4p and most branches are closed on the weekends. It's not even 40 hours of opening time for the week!
What the fuck kind of a schedule is this? Granted, I've hardly ever needed to go to a branch in person because the majority of things can be done online or at an atm, but still. Some things you do occasionally need to visit in person for...like getting a cashier's check which I had to do recently.
Thankfully the last time I needed one, I was able to drive far away to a location that was open for a couple of hours on Saturday but Jesus Christ.
Oh, now it's great, there are apps. Before the internet it was misery and before ATMs it was just spiteful. The whole point seemed to be to make sure that you never get to extract cash from your accounts.
five o,clock is much to late for a bank to be open.
5 o'clock!? Are they having a sleepover?
Historically bank hours were because they had to count and tabulate every transaction and check for the day after closing, so historically "bank hours" meant very long working hours. Tabulators and computers greatly improved this of course
Anyone who works an office job should be able to set their own hours. I choose 6:30-2:30. I can still hit up local shops after. My colleague chooses 10-8 and shops before work. There's no reason we can't make this work.
For a lot of time, i thought the 12 hour clock was not that bad
Until i saw people excluding the AM/PM. What does 6:30-2:30 mean? Are you working -4 hours? Are you working from 18:30 to 2:30 or from 6:30 to 14:30? Why do people choose this time format?
Even though you're right, context is also important. They're talking about working in an office, so it shouldn't be difficult to understand that they're referring to working 8 hours, from 6:30 AM to 2:30 PM
I'm confused by this comment.
Do you not understand how to tell time?06:30-02:30 (note the 0!) means 6:30 am to 2:30 am the following day. Anything in pm would be +12 hours. 6:30 pm becomes 18:30; 2:30pm is 14:30. Using this format you want 06:30-14:30 which is 8 hours.
This format is important because it actually solves the problem you are trying to explain (am/pm). Regularly I need to give EST database timestamps for a PST server cluster while living in another timezone myself and speaking to someone in India which is :30min difference in time zones and trying to account for daylight savings. Removing am/pm just makes it easier to track what happens in different places without looking at the wrong time window. Time math is messy and stupid, be specific by using 24 hours instead of 12
Edit: I guess no one works in timestamps, keep on being terrible for the rest of us.
Edit 2: if you don't understand how time works, reconsider your opinion. Spreading misinformation is damaging
The company would have to hire more shitty middle managers to micro manage you during a wider amount of hours, we can't have that.
I'm thankful I can do this. My employer measures performance based on what we actually do, not how long we work for.
I'm usually at work 10 AM to 6:30 PM (which helps avoid peak hour traffic), but I can come in and/or leave earlier or later and it'd be fine. I work from home two days a week, too.
That's always been a hilarious part of French culture to me. Many of their cafes and sandwich shops are closed for lunch so their employees can go home to eat.
In what cafes and sandwich shop do you go to? I've never seen one that was closed during launch hours.
It's getting rarer but their is some that only open in launch hours instead of the whole afternoon, restaurant can have some specific services hours. (And some cafes stop serving drinks while serving food.)
French culture is to eat at specific hours, so it would be almost impossible to serve food only outside those.
Just small cafes around the park in Clermont-Ferrand. Strolling through the park at noon on a Saturday was the worst time to get hungry or need a drink.
Lolwut
Protip: Some of those shops are not meant for the poors to shop at, and set their hours accordingly.
The poors are the ones who need to be at a 9-5 job all the time.
As a poor, I understand.
What I don't understand is when the government does it.
I have to take a whole day off because I'm obligated to go talk to some person behind a counter, who will tell me that I need form 87324, but won't be able to tell me what that form is, where to get it, or why I need it, then drive around from government office to government office trying to get the form, only to figure out another person at the first office has it, and when I finally get the stupid form, it needs some meaningless mandatory field filled out by my employer, who thinks I'm sick today.
I guess I'll cured until the day after tomorrow.
The government? Oh that's easy. They just don't care.
What I don’t understand is when the government does it.
This is by design! Republicans love reducing hours of government offices and introducing new partworkd and requirements to make it harder for The Poors to meet whatever new arbitrary requirements they've added to access a given program or be able to vote
Is this some dayshift joke that I'm too nightshift to understand. I go where I want provided I don't care about sleeping.
Ok......imagine the shops were only open from 4pm-11pm. And not open on your days off.
This is why I refuse to work first shift and don't have weekends off.
I need to be able to access things like the fucking bank and any govt service whatsoever.
Honestly imo there's no reason these services aren't 24/7. They are necessary for modern living and therefore shouldn't be constrained due to shift schedule.
If people are working during the night then all essential services should be open 24/7
I'm still bitter about the lumber place down the street closing. 9-5 and only till noon on Saturday. You got get so many discounted items! Doors, windows, screws, random tools, all kinds of building materials.
Rarely got to go there, had to spend my $ at Home Depot.
The shop workers.
They are there from 8am-6pm.
Everything closes at 5pm
They will never be able to go to anyone else's shop.
(We forget about the people that work there have it worse than we do and they seem to figure it out just fine)
how do they "figure it out"? I've always wondered this.
Fair enough. Basically what others have suggested in this thread. Flex time, lunch hours, swap shifts with a co-worker.
I've had the opportunity with an old job to work 4-days a week before and I wish this was the norm. 4x10 days should be the standard.
i break into stores after hours and steal things
And you close on weekends
The cigarette stores nearby all close at 6pm. Like what the fuck? The liquor store next door don't close until they legally can't sell alcohol.
Does the liquor store not also sell cigerettes?
Aw hell, you should quit anyways!
In my town the liquor store I work at can't sell certain items. We can't sell food or cigarettes.
No idea where OP lives, so this is local to me in Texas.
Some liquor stores sell cigarettes, some don't.
Those that do generally have a very limited selection (Maybe two options) and charge about 50% more than one would pay at a convenience store.
Fortunately for the smoker in Texas, the best prices are usually found in gas station convenience stores that are open 24/7, so OP's issue is strange and foreign to me.
I genuinely think working 12 hrs 3 days a week is the key to happiness in life.
Yeah working 12 hour shifts 2 days on, 2 days off, and alternating weekends was always my favorite schedule. Weekdays off to do important things, fat overtime checks every other week, and taking a one week vacation using only 2 vacation days was awesome.
He's getting shopblocked.
Wtf kind of shop is only open for 8 hours a day, and business hours at that. I've never witnessed that
Are you really asking "What kind of business keeps business hours"?
Well yeah, because they aren’t their business hours.
Banks
I've been complaining about banks for YEARS now! I can understand in the 60s why your bank account wasn't up to the minute accurate.
I have a debit card. I have money in the bank. Why is a $3.19 slim jim transaction pending for a week??? I tap my chip, I type my pin, transaction goes through.......my bank should instantly deduct those funds, and there should never be a "pending" status. It's all digital! What the god damn fuck?
It's called banker's hours.
It's quite common in my city. There was an event called "Moonlight Madness" where the local shops would be open late. It was in the paper, there were signs put up, big chalk designs all over the sidewalks downtown. "open late" meant "7:30" to most shops. It wasn't even dark enough for there to be moonlight, just my madness.
Go there during lunch time or use some flex time if you can.
instead of using that lunch break to eat, or spending flex time doing something meaningful that you enjoy.
Lunch?
Time?
The words you speak are strange and foreign to me.
Most people don't actually work 9 to 5 though. That was an idiotic song.
Yea! It's more like 8-5!
I work 10-630, I can't go anywhere either. If they open at 9 I don't have time to go and be back before work.
In Australia at least, it's common for office jobs to either be 9 to 5 with a half hour lunch break, or 9 to 5:30 with an hour lunch break. Companies I worked at when I lived there (before I moved to the USA) usually did the latter. An hour break was nice because I worked in the center of Melbourne and could walk around the city, get lunch, go to the bank if I needed to, buy stuff from one of the computer stores nearby, etc and still make it back to work on time.
Is buying online not a thing or did I miss something
Not every store sells online..
Which ones? You can buy food, medicine and books online. I find hard to think of what you cannot buy online in these days.
Unless it's a very niche store, almost anyone can buy anything online, if they have the money of course
