Florida Is on Its Way to Banning — and Criminalizing — Alternative Meat
Florida Is on Its Way to Banning — and Criminalizing — Alternative Meat
Florida legislators have been quietly working to ban and criminalize the production and sale of cell-cultivated meat across the state, via the introduction of two bills.
Party of small government my fucking ass. Also, isn't the free market allowed to produce any product and compete for consumer spending? Isn't that capitalism?
Desantis is literally pushing these laws and screaming woke while pocketing millions of dollars of "donations" from the large cattle ranching companies throughout the state. Hell, he started attacking Disney once they stopped paying him millions in bribes too. Disney's disagreement with the dont say gay bill was the perfect excuse
It's all bad faith arguments. They just use it as a weapon to get their way. Although, this reeks of corporate regulatory capture.
No.
Capitalism is when certain industries and certain corporations amass such a market share that they are able to bribe legislatures to prohibit any competitors to their product, under force of law.
Similar to the exertion of influence by noble families under feudalism.
If our democracy has already been captured by such corporate actors, then it is difficult to imagine how "remembering to vote" could meaningfully correct such deep systemic flaw. Emigrating to Norway seems to be one of a handful of plausible remaining options
Small government means making it ILLEGAL to be Vegan or Vegetarian!
Almost like "small government" was just a bullshit excuse to cut social services and avoid regulating against the unchecked greed and exploitation of wealthy executives, not something they genuinely believed.
Yeah, I think of it as a critical thinking short circuit mechanism. It’s a means of justifying any policy to their voters without actually having to list its merits or defend any harm it does. The voter thinks “smaller government = more freedom and more money for me” and their brain stops there.
Small minded government.
Stand your ground beef, and the cattle doctrine, are important concepts in the south.
They want to force out everyone to the left of Matt gaetz so they never have to worry about pesky liberal voters ever again. If they could round up every registered Democrat and drop them off in California or new York, they fucking would.
It's only a slippery slope because they coated it with lard.
You should try reading the article before commenting. The "fake meat" they are referring to is lab grown from the living cells of animals not vegetable amalgamations made to imitate meat.
The "fake meat" they are referring to is lab grown from the living cells of animals not vegetable amalgamations made to imitate meat.
Depending on an individual’s reasons for following a vegan or vegetarian diet, lab-grown meat may very well be okay.
If their reasons are nutrition based, sure, they should avoid lab-grown meat.
If their reasons are based in the ethics of raising animals for slaughter, factory farming, or the carbon footprint and/or food and water waste involved in raising an entire animal just for parts of it to be food, then lab-grown meat might be fine in their mind.
Oh so just more anti-science bullshit so they can choke down bribes from the meat industry.
Worse. This is government deciding what you can eat. This is actual socialism (not the workers decide means of production kind though). Ron's done this before with stocks.
So, not actual socialism then.
You might need a dictionary
I'm so fucking sick of the Florida government. House insurance is astronomical, but they're worried about lab-grown meat, teachers saying gay, and books.
Think of them a bit like a friend with a drug problem. They gotta ride this train all the way to the bottom before there will be any interest in change.
Man, for a party that talks about freedoms, they sure love taking them away. As long as their followers still have gun rights, fuck everything else.
No,, they're very much not allowed to fuck everything else. They are allowed to fuck one thing in very specific circumstances (age not being one of them)
Aaaahhh the political party of not wanting to interfere in people's lives.
Unless you eat meat from a source that might change an industry and cause a select few individuals to be slightly less rich
Unless you masturbate and waste gods seed
Unless you love the wrong person
Unless you want to vote for the wrong person
Unless you believe in the wrong or (gasp) no god at all!
Unless you're the wrong skin color, how dare you!
Unless you have the wrong genitals
Unless you have the wrong wrong genitals
Unless...
You forgot poor
Yeah, I knew I forgot about 50 more of em, but I thought the point was there, sorta...
Politics is bout ideology, value and belief. But here, it's about making decisions by dogmatism and cult. This is a whole different level.
Alabama also passed a bill to ban the sale and manufacturing of it, making it a Class C felony.
What in the fuck is going on in these guys heads. I get being beholden to the cattle industry but this shit is beyond that
It's about pushing all the people who live there and disagree with the Republican agenda.
They are actually that fragile.
They probably have their identities tied to meat consumption. That's also a reason for the climate denialism. I recently learned about petro-masculinity and it seems very plausible to me.
The same people believed margarine was a grave socialist (iirc) threat to the country and made the production and sale of that a felony. I think around a century ago. Something, something, those who neglect to learn history, something something...
Don't bring up partially hydrogenated vegetable oil here. You're gonna jinx us and make fake meat kill everybody.
So far Florida seems to be a good shooter when it comes to its own foot. Make Diznee illegal, abortion illegal, abortion pill, tofu meat. What's next? Smoothies?
Let's make an allegory to porn and prostitution that George Carlin made some years back... Selling is legal, fucking is legal, do why can't selling fucking also be legal?
Banana is legal, orange is legal, so why can't a smoothie be legal? The answer is "Florida!"
This is about lab-grown meat.
One thing we probably should ban is headlines because then people would actually have to read the article.
Banning lab grown meat is JUST as stupid
I sad tofu meat because that's the kind of fake meat I like. There's also the kind where they make sort of stringy material and glued together and then the version where they get a plant or other scaffolding material and fill it with animal clone cells, that's the kind you're talking about here. Cloned cells are fair game to me but not my thing because they are probably bad for you just like a murdered chicken in a sandwich is.
Florida is taking away the freedom of any person to eat whatever they want? Is anyone surprised?
I wanna get one of those cigarette boats and smuggle abortion pills and alternative meat into Florida and trans people out.
It'll be black with a red racing stripe and a spoiler like the A Team van and I'll name it the Baracus.
Can I join you? I will bring one two and we can start the freedom floatilla.
The fun part is the coast guard won't care.
Always with the lame anecdotal argument that sounds like it came from a drunk idiot.
I love how humans try their hardest to cut down on the amount of destruction they cause only for other humans to villainize and tear them down at every turn.
Florida state Rep. Tyler Sirois, the Republican who introduced a similar bill, HB 1071, told Politico that his major motivation is protecting the cattle industry. “Farming and cattle are incredibly important industries to Florida,” Sirois stated, adding, "So I think this is a very relevant discussion for our state to have.”
I don't agree with him on the policy, but I'll give him this: that's more honest than most people advocating for creating protectionist barriers to protect incumbent food producers that I've seen.
Usually there's something about how it's potentially deadly or maybe waving around "concerns" about whether there'd be food security in a global famine or something.
It's also a very stupid take. If that's what he thinks, then he should finance farms that transition from growing animals to growing whatever is needed in this more modern and civilised world, like high protein legumes and that sort of stuff used in producing new generation foods.
He also thinks it's an affront to nature and creation that could lead to cloning, so yeah..
Wow that's extremely anti capitalist and still sucks ass
Bravo to this guy, sucking in exactly all ways
Medicine is too woke for Florida. So is meat, so are books.
Anyone have any predictions?
I feel like seat belts are going to be too woke soon for Florida.
Driving licenses altogether might be too woke.
Salads? Too woke for Florida
I feel like they should probably get rid of the seatbelt law… let the problem sort itself out,
Yea, the covid deniers really helped the rational side of the population by weeding themselves out in similar circumstances
They wouldn't do that. They'd ban them, cuz only libtards are cowardly and gay enough to use them. Or something. I hate this timeline.
Open internet is too dangerous for our kids.
What if they learn too much?
Florida will be full of those sovereign citizen license plates, if it's not already.
@Varyk @zarkanian Florida is too woke for Florida. It's all gonna come crashing down soon like a house of cards in the wind.
This is great! This'll lower prices for everyone else.
They're actually setting up the board with some big criminal penalties for selling it. It'll have a cross state freezing effect on the vendors as a whole and transportation through states. They're going full drug war on it. I didn't expect their need for cattle farmer votes to be so acute.
Alternative meat sounds like a slang term for a dildo.
That's funny.
It's good to see Florida really taking the lead on tackling the issues that matter.
I've been watching the tech to make actual meat from cell lines emerge with some optimism- it promises to make it possible for us to have meat in our diets without all the greenhouse gases and feedlots and the like- but it also threatens to consolidate the protein industry into even fewer corporate hands if it's not well-regulated.
The meat industry is honestly pretty awful (environmentally, politically, ethically, etc.) and I find myself rooting for the plucky young frankenmonsters that might come along and knock them down even though I'm pretty sure they'll be worse if they're not well regulated from the start.
Not long until they ban Linux!
It really is the socialist devil's OS.
The alternative woke furry nerds love it.
Found one of the Lemmy people whose identity is "Linux"
I like meat too, but this is silly. Just had roast chicken yesterday. I also have a freezer with two door shelves lined with tubes of Impossible Sausage. It's a pretty damn good "sausage", and without those hard/random bits of gristle you'll encounter with the real thing. Think there's some Quorn chicken nuggets in there too. Just buy as you like.
And soy was a lovely mitigator for menopausal hot flashes. Dosed myself with soy on the daily for those weeks, no flashes (awful random surges of heat, head to toes, such that you sweat into your hair, behind your knees, awful.) Miss a day, hot flashes. Although, when you think on it, this fits with Florida, really. Fuck women's health, amiright?
Is the hot flash thing because of the phytoestrogen? Pretty cool.
They need to lose in court again, I guess. Sorry taxpayers, that's 20 million right off the top.
So, it's a race to heart disease against the environmental clock that's working hard to turn the whole state into Shatlantis, part duh?
No. Not impossible burgers and the like. Just lab grown beef and the like
Even stupider 🤣
Impossburgs arent heart healthy
I have no idea what is going on. Is the article biased and not telling us something we should know about the reasoning behind these bills? Are these politicians taking payment from "big-meat"?
Almost certainly yes, because ag business loves their government subsidies.
Florida state Rep. Tyler Sirois, the Republican who introduced a similar bill, HB 1071, told Politico that his major motivation is protecting the cattle industry. “Farming and cattle are incredibly important industries to Florida,” Sirois stated
Safe to say they're 100% taking bribes from the cattle industry
Cool…😶