Trump made the remarks while accepting the "Patriot of the Year" award at a Long Island event on Thursday.
Summary
Donald Trump announced plans to reform U.S. elections, including mandating paper ballots, same-day voting, voter ID, and proof of citizenship, while eliminating mail-in voting.
Trump criticized California’s ban on requiring voter ID, calling for a nationwide overhaul. Though mail-in and early voting surged during the pandemic, Trump has long opposed these methods, claiming fraud, despite evidence showing fraud rates are extremely low.
Critics argue his proposals could disproportionately affect rural, disabled, and nonwhite voters, potentially disenfranchising key Democratic-leaning groups.
The reforms would mark significant shifts in U.S. election policies.
In some places only slightly. Like 55/45. So it would still affect Democrats.
Edit: I mention this because a lot of folks tend to assume rural areas are almost exclusively Republican and that's very far from the truth even in super red states.
This is it folks. If he is able to transform our election system with his own two hands, we've had our last fair election, I guarantee it. Fraud will be baked in, circumventing any design elements that are ostensibly there to guard against it.
This is the scariest thing I've read since the election.
Like that scene at the end of The Dictator, when he finally holds election.
There are two vote boxes and all the citizens are queuing in front of the box that will vote for his opposition. A tank drives up next to that queue, and everyone leaves the opposition queue, rushing over to join the queue to vote for the dictator.
Nah, we are about to have elections like the US used to in the 1900s, filled with political shenanigans. Its bad, but like... that has been how elections have always been run.
Not exactly russia or north korea, but like half way there.
Edit: Basically, instead of 51% of the vote, you need 55% or maybe even more, because some of the votes will get thrown out for made up reasons. Slightly marked off center of the bubble, invalid. Didn't fill the bubble completely, invalid. And they only scrutinize votes for the opposition, and approve the votes for their candidates even if there are the same errors in the marking of the ballot.
The writing has not even been on the wall here, it’s been part of the plan all along, he’s been saying it all along and it’s obvious after he tried to violently steal it last time.
We’re in a situation where our only hope I they are too incompetent to pull off the democracy destroying evil they are promising.
Well, to be fair, elections have always been biased with shit like this.
We never really had a 10/10 fair election, there has always been biases in favor of status quo / regressivism. It always took more than 51% of votes for the less regressive party to win. We're just regressing back to stupid election shenanigans like those 2000 florida ballots designed to confuse everyone. Shenanigans that had always existed, but we evolved out of, but now we are going through a period of regression, as the country has done many many times before.
Yeah, clearly opening the door to discuss further changes to the election process. It's dying, and he doesn't want more people voting, he wants less, if at all
I've forgotten what ratio of the house and Senate need to approve amendments. I'm sure they haven't tho, and will pack them both with the number they need.
Um, states run elections, federal laws can regulate them. That has always been the case.
Southern states used to require the federal governments permission to change their states election laws. That was actually good that federal governments can somewhat regulate state elections, so southern states cant make racist election laws. Then supreme court stuck down that part of the Voting Right Act. southern states then immediately passed Voter ID laws to restrict minority voting.
Now the funny thing is, because now that the federal government is under a republican trifecta, they are now gonna do a uno reverse and regulate blue states like we used to regulate southern states.
And you'll have to wait 10 hours to vote on a workday because they've limited voting locations to one every million people - like they already do in Georgia.
"We're gonna do things that have been really needed for a long time," he said. "And we are gonna look at elections. We want to have paper ballots, one day voting, voter ID, and proof of citizenship."
This should come with a national day off for voting, and mandatory voting requirement.
Just the federal holiday would be enough. If someone is too lazy to vote when given a paid day off to do so, then I don't trust they are informed enough to vote anyhow.
fuck that, mail in voting has done so much good and it's a prime step in stopping all this. if we had national mail in voting things would get better fast so no wonder they don't want it.
what would this mean for states that already do this
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.
Hard to say. voting is up to states for methodology but like we did have restrictions on state due to discrimation till recently that would not allow them to change their rules or purge voters like they do again nowadays.
No. Federal government could always regulate elections. We used to require southern states to get federal governments permission before they can change their state election laws, so that they cant make racist election laws, but then the supreme court struck down that part of the Voting Right Act, then southern states immediately enacted Voter ID Laws.
Now that republicans have a trifecta in federal government, they are doing an uno reverse to regulate blue states like we used to regulate southern states.
The VRA was an extension of the fourteenth amendment. And the federal government never said the racist states had to do X. They said the states had to submit changes to the federal government to make sure they weren't racist and thus unconstitutional.
Too bad for him the constitution clearly states "the states shall decide" - which is why we have the hodgepodge patchwork bullshit we have now. So he may want to change it, but unless he actually does light the Constitution on fire, this is unlikely to go anywhere.
The constitution doesn't protect the people from the government. The constitution protects a government from the people.
When the government lights the constitution on fire, "We The People" are no longer restrained by its restrictions. We are free to establish a new constitution, with blackjack and hookers, and burn down the government established by the old, flaming constitution.
If he really wants to standardize voting at the national level, I think this might actually backfire on the GOP in the long run. Mail-in voting and early voting is extremely popular across the political spectrum, while lazy ignorant old people, the life blood of the GOP for over fifty years, often don't carry ID or even know where theirs is.
Shutting down polling stations in democratic areas has been part of the disenfranchisement strategy to-date. I’m sure this policy is one step of a few to try and permanently take power…
Ignorant, yes, by definition. But voter turnout among registered Republicans has historically been pretty high - often higher than Democrats. There's a few breakdowns of this but I found this older analysis quite interesting: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/07/12/voter-turnout-2018-2022/
I am forced to file taxes every year and being a US citizen fucks my ability to invest in the retirement plans here because they all end up being PFICs which the IRS heavily penalizes. Fuck you, you're not taking my rights away. Forcing me to travel to not only the US, but to the state where I'm registered is not OK as that is thousands of dollars and days to accomplish.
No, no, by all means push more people to their breaking point. They've long done the "fuck around" part and I would love to be around to witness the "and find out" part.
Who doesn't have paper ballots? The states that use a touch screen (e.g. Dominion) still has paper ballots. You just make your choices on the screen and print the ballot. You check that everything is accurate and insert the paper ballot in the counting machine.
In elections where there needs to be a single winner so proportional representation does not work, how about this (already works in several EU countries):
Round 1: Anyone can participate if they have enough signatures. If anyone gets the majority vote, they automatically win and there is no round 2.
Round 2, 1 or 2 weeks later: Top 2 candidates from Round 1. No votes are carried over. Popular vote wins.
Well the election laws primarily come from the election clause of the constitution. So that couldn't be changed without an amendment requiring a super majority, which neither party will get. What I assume he is trying to do though, is while having state leaders being majority Republican, have the states update their election laws, because that's who controls the elections. (Unless the supreme Court blocks it, as we saw with Colorado). Also held by the Republicans.
I assume his attempts are to lock all the states currently red, red. Is it possible, doubtful. As states also may require super majoritys to update their election processes, but that may vary drastically by state. Shit one state was discussing getting rid of popular vote all together and just allowing their representatives to vote leading up to the election.
The country we knew as the U.S. is broken. Only threads to hold it together now
Conservatives didn't start it now, it's a long game they're playing for decades, it just became obvious now when it's in final stage.
Their goal always was to break checks and balances for them but only for them, and they are able to because they broke enough already. Id Dems will try to do a fraction of what Cons are doing, they will be politically and judicially murdered, partially because of that, and partially because breaking shit is easy and fixing it requires abiding by the letter of law, and that's hard when the law was deliberately destroyed
Because they don't want to. The corporate Democrats work for their sponsors, not the people. The few genuine progressives are kept around mainly for show.
It's partly because Democrats often tend towards being honest and good people that actually care about good governance.
The qons don't and they can just hold things hostage - they basically grab all kinds of things (like balancing budgets) and hold a gun to its head, knowing their dumbass supporters are too stupid to realize that government does do good things - too many of the idiots in the base buy into a whole lot of Libertarian-style anarchy when it comes to "limited government".
Because Democrats love losing. They use that as an excuse to blast their constituents with texts on how to donate. They did that when Roe was overturned and a few days after Kamala lost. As another commenter pointed out, they're beholden to their sponsors and their sponsors want a return on investment.
I thought Putin's Sock Puppet and his neo-Nazi supporters want to increase state rights. Getting rid of the Electoral College should be the first step.
If they could, one of the 40+ previous presidents would've already done so. They can rig it to make thing more biased, but cant completely cancel elections. That is, unless they do a civil war to purge every remnant of the opposition.