Why is everyone in this thread Richard Byrd?
Most people I know wear t-shirts at home in winter and heat up the house to compensate, wasting energy. This meme is clearly aimed at them.
If you live in arctic conditions, then you probably already wear more than a shirt, even at home. If not, then feel adressed as well.
And to the many people who are currently raising their babies at home: Scandinavian practices be damned. I understand that it's not too practical to regularly wrap up your baby so that they can withstand freezing conditions. Fine. Turn up the damn thermostat. You already have a screaming infant at your hands.
Everyone else: stfu.
A touque as well. You lose most of your heat through your head. It’s easy enough to take off and put in your pocket if you get too warm, then put back on if you feel like you’re getting cold.
Sadly not accurate, except about touques being sexy and convenient
If it helps, here is an article calling ur mom and the dude from Letterkenny dumb: https://health.clevelandclinic.org/body-heat-loss
Simpler to just model humans as nearly black bodies with known surface area and some heat lost through gas exchange.
Well, maybe my mom just told me that to make sure I wore a touque. ;)
I’m bald now, so it made sense.
People in this thread are hitting us with all sorts of whatabout stories with extreme conditions; and meanwhile I'm working in a office where people will come in and turn on the cooling because they just walked up some stairs, and then turn on the heating after they've sat down for a couple of minutes. No concept of self regulation. Just any hint of discomfort means the room has to change temperature.
It that context, the pushback in this thread is a bit depressing.
This is a great way to mess with the self appointments lords of the thermostat as they caw their favorite sayings like "Wear a sweater" and "turn the lights out when you leave the room".
It's the nuclear age grandpa. I'm cranking my thermo to 23. Take your shirt off if you're warm.
No pants it is then.
-20 ºC winters have entered the chat
I doubt they could pass the Turing test.
Wearing a sweater still makes sense there. To spend less energy.
But in that case it'll be more a matter of heat isolation. Though when such a low temperature exists on the outside consistently, air humidity drops and it sucks heat less. I think it works this way, but that's pure intuition or something, my physics knowledge sucks definitely.
im the ranging person during the summer with AC. my apartment gets super fucking hot during the summer and i need AC blasting 24/7
If you have south or west facing windows:
Metallized privacy films have made a big difference in my home. For heat protection, they should be the weather resistant kind and applied to the outside of the window. (They should be removable without leaving any residue)
If you want to try this method out first: Stick a few space blankets in front of the windows. Looks like shit, but it's a cheap way to test whether this method might work for you.
"This meme was made by someone in a warm climate."
I mean, I'm in Moscow and it's barely below 0 degC.
But - yes.
haven’t seen a shitpost hit a nerve this hard in a while, hahaha!
I've never sweat through my eyes before.
To a point, yeah. But when it's -40 outside, heating to 18 or 21 doesn't make much of a difference energy wise.
You can't put sweaters on pets
You need to have one room You can heat if needed to keep the pet in if it's going to get cold
Zonal heating what what. My home office is the cat office during the day.
You can’t put sweaters on pets
I know many retirees who disagree.
I mean, they have a built-in sweater. If they got really cold you'd see them cuddle up in a blanket, on a bed, or close to a person. Either way I bet you'd be more risking your pipes freezing than harming your pets.
Unethical life pro tip: get an apartment that isn't at the end of a hallway and has floors above and below. In some cases, you can turn off your heat completely and simply steal heat from your neighbors, leeching off of them like some sort of thermal mosquito. It won't be as warm as is comfortable without bundling up, but it may be warm enough to get by just by bundling up. Watch out for freezing pipes though!
For an added techno bonus: install a smart thermostat connected to a camera pointed at the door with facial recognition tech built in. If anyone other than the residents walk in, the thermostat is automatically reset to 72F/22C. That way if you DO burst a pipe, and the landlord walks in, they won't have any proof you did it!
or... just set the heat only for 55 if the pipes are your only concern. You'll still save a lot of money on heating, and you won't have to deal with your stuff getting flooded.
good luck finding an apartment that A) will let you install a smart thermostat B) a camera and C) finding an apartment with a 3 pipe climate system as its usually 2 so you dont get to control if its heat or cooling year round.
In the US I've generally either had a single system (heat or cooling depending on climate) or a system capable of both controlled by me. I've never lived in an apartment where someone else controlled what was happening with my air.
How is this unethical? I live in those conditions and if I turn my heat on I have to walk around naked, the heat from the neighbours is enough
I can confirm that this works. Outside temperatures are right around freezing right now. Indoors, we're still hovering at around 23C and we have yet to turn on any heating. I wouldn't call this unethical though. Homes are built this way by design so that you share the heating.
My old apartment was built this way, except it was to share cooling because we lived in a very hot area. I think the insulation or whatever it was supposed to be, was bad because the air conditioning guys were there all summer craning new units onto the top of the buildings. It doesn't help that nobody would close the breezeway doors and we effectively had a bar of heat running straight through the building. (although maintenance did force the issue right before we left, they removed their ability to stay open.)
my apartment is 25C right now with no heating on and its stuffy as fuck.
my apartment is like this and it heats up to like 80°F without any thermostat setting even when it's below freezing outside
A smart thermostat would likely have record of the set and actual temperatures.
Yeah wouldn't it also be like super cold inside from the temp not being 72F prior to them entering? I mean if it was cold enough to freeze the pipes and all, seems like just they'd be able to tell what's what as soon as they opened* the door.
Edit: Fixed a typo
Blood circulation in my hands breaks down completely when I get cold, so no. I will not be turning down the heat.
Fingerless wool gloves.
I'm not the person you replied to, but fingerless gloves don't fix the big problem of your fingers being super cold due to the poor circulation. My hands feel just fine right now. My fingers, which were warm for a while today, have felt like they were suspended in ice water since the last time I was outside about 45 minutes ago.
I wish there were a good solution like that, believe me I've tried to find a good one that will allow me both warm fingers and manual dexterity and not be super uncomfortable (like tight rubber gloves or something), but I haven't found it yet.
The older I have gotten, the more true that has been for me. I'm in an enclosed room with its own electric heater and it's plenty warm in here because I'm comfortable in a T-shirt, but my fingers have been like ice since I woke up well over an hour ago and they aren't getting warmer.
Gloves wear big ass gloves use gloves that make your hands look like Mii character hands big ass spheres attached to the ends of your arms zero functionality just big ol gloves
I'm a very chilly person who loses dexterity fast. I find some quick exercises warm me up pretty well.
But yeah you've got to heat your space to a minimum of comfort
Meh I just deal with the purple arms
This meme brought to you by a child in California that doesn't know what real winter is. It was 20 something here last night and this dipshit thinks a sweater is gonna keep you alive though that.
I live in Canada and tbh I'm with the Chad on this.
Not saying "turn off your furnace" but energy use (and cost) baloons exponentially based on how hot you have your thermostat set at. Lower your thermostat to the point where wearing a sweater indoors is enough and save money. It's not even just about the money, it'sresponsible energy usage.
And I'd be happy to subsidize the first X GJ/mo to help people keep themselves from freezing, but if people want their apartment to be the tropics that's gotta be on their dime.
Same with electricity. I'll subsidize keeping your lights on but I'm not paying you to mine crypto.
Another possible approach is to keep your home cool (keep it above 50 to avoid pipes freezing because that just sucks to deal with regardless of responsibility) and use a small like 200w heater pointed at yourself to warm up some. I live in a century old farm house and do that because it's drafty as heck in parts of the house and impractical to fully heat the entire house to a fully comfortable temperature once winter truly sets in and it's consistently around 0F
20 something
Sweater wont keep you alive
Wait till you hear about the latest tech: two sweaters!
I lived up in the mountains for many years, there are risks of frostbite, hypothermia, and death at some temps and no amount of wool will save you. You need heat, most of that time I had a fire place, when I was in a tenant situation the heat was maintained by the management company and we only paid electric, and it was natural gas heaters.
I'm wearing two sweaters even though it's only 10C (50F) here. I've never lived somewhere where it gets very cold, so this is very cold to me.
Two T-shirts, think thin layers
To be fair, you could wear winter gear 24/7. I lived like that for a bit. The real reasons we need heating are structural decay and pets. Pipes burst below 55 and pets don't do well below 65.
There are real reasons to heat your house besides just wanting to be warm.
"Pipes burst below 55°" hahahahhah what now? "Pets don't do well below 65°" what the crap is this nonsense. Pipes will burst after they freeze with water in them at a temp at or below 32°, the majority of breeds of dogs and cats will be just fine until it is freezing out, some dog breeds are okay below freezing.
Just set your thermostat to 60 instead of 70
His entire point is no heat just sweaters.
I walked to school uphill in the snow BOOOOTTHH WAAAYYYSSSS.
Ok cranky grandpa, go sit back by your space heater.
Must be fun not to have any sensitivity issues and also live somewhere so south that a sweater is enough.
Must be nice living somewhere where you don't even know that pipes can freeze.
Okay, you can heat your house but only to 50 degrees.
Everyone who has their pipes freeze that I've asked said you have to set it to 60 if you really don't want to risk it to freeze.
Pipes can't freeze if they're halfway to boiling, I like your thinking
I usually only go for 20 degrees, but I guess a sauna would be fun
I've lived in my current place for over 10 years, and so don't actually know if the heater works.
Then again, I live in Texas (and was away from home for the big freezes we had in 2021 and 2023), so it's rarely an issue.
But air conditioning is a different story. I can only trove so much clothing, and without air conditioning my little trailer home gets to like 120 degrees in the summer.
Except for baby, kids, convalescente people, handicap people, eldery, and people with a very cold floor and wall that offset the overall room temperature.
This is just extrastrong ableism.I won't go into detail because it's personal and a bit gross, but adding on layers doesn't always work for me due to a disability. I just become even more uncomfortable, and my extremities are still in pain...
Guys if you keep heating your houses to 15°C or more you're the cause for climate change and the corporations can't blow petawatts on their AI data centers c'mon don't be so selfish
My flat grows mold if I leave it under 18C for too long and my landlord doesn't care 🥴
Mmmm, mold.
I’m right with you on that though. Small basement apartment with a concrete floor that was built in the 1930s. Yep. Mold.
Yeah how else will ChatGPT tell you how to distribute (a^2 +b2)(c2+d^2)? /s
I'm sorry, me heaters are set to 16°C 😢
In my defence they don't go any lower than that for some reasonSome reason being that if you don't maintain a certain temperature in your house you'll get mildew problems.
That's basically the minimum requirement to avoid structural decay. You should not be letting your place get any colder than that.
True, but also let's not just let ourself dash toward suicide. Society is not meant to sustain nudism in the middle of winter 24/7.
Just wear a sweater bro
come to florida! hehe
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It's gonna get down to -30°C this week, I'll turn the heat off and just throw on the good ol' toque and a sweater and report back, assuming I still have fingers.
I think this meme is mocking the people that turn their house up to 72°F instead of just leaving it at 60°F and wearing a hoodie. The difference in price is quite extreme.
THAT'S VERY COLD
Damn. It's only 4 degrees for me, but my room still gets cold if I don't have the heater on max because some moron decided that an entire fucking wall in my room has to be window.
Same here.
But there is middle-ground here. My wife came from a very temperate country. She wants the thermostat set at like, 26.
I'd be happy to have it at 17 and wear sleeves indoors. 9 degrees thermostat difference makes a hell of a dent in the utility bill.
19C during the day, 14C at night, 22C in the office because sitting still and concentrating is no way to keep warm.
I can't wait until it's warm enough to just keep windows open 24/7 again.
I grew up in cold but have spent almost two decades in humid subtropical. If it's 20ish outside, I usually won't turn on the heat, but 23 if it gets any colder (though that's in part because old japanese house loses heat like crazy. 21 is good for me)
I keep my place at 15.5c in winter because it’s super drafty. (I’m getting the siding redone soon, I really hope that helps, but ultimately we have the same climate as Siberia so there’s only so much to be done) even at 15.5, it’s still about $200 USD/mth to heat, but at 18c it more than doubles in cost.
I’m like your wife; made for warmer climates. My ideal temp is around 30c, and I’m cold at 23, but I have heated mattress pads on my bed and couch (much much much cheaper to run than furnace) so it’s not too bad overall. They are a bit pricy up front, but definitely worth the spend.
Perhaps that sort of thing would be a good compromise for you two; a couple heated chair covers or couch cover or something to bring her temp up while keeping the overall temp lower.
If I'm spending 10 minutes walking between buildings and then an hour sitting in them I'd rather be comfortable for the longer amount of time.
There was the one guy that always walked to class in strappy sandals, a short sleeved shirt, and shorts. No matter how cold it was outside, in New England, there he was.
:(
Nice mesh shorts, slut
This instance ain't big enough
Hey I didn't consent to my picture being released! :)-
Gets ya from point A to point B.
I live in a relatively warm part of Canada and let me tell you a sweater alone is not enough 😭
There are plenty of places in the USA Midwest and Europe that get colder.Never mind things like water, pets, children...
Yeah, nah, I'm on the side of the government paying for utilities. Human right to electricity. Figure out a system to prevent overuse, but everyone deserves to have heating and cooling when needed.
That said, definitely wear a sweater in the winter if you can. Acclimate to the season and you'll hate going outside a lot less, and need less heating in the winter. I typically don't heat most of my home in the winter (I don't have central heating). I just use a space heater in whatever room I'm in, and move it to the next room with me, and wear warm clothes. I'm in Tennessee, which routinely gets well below freezing in the winter. Not ideal, but it works
Figure out a system to prevent overuse
If we're going down the "government should pay for it" route, then a good solution would be subsidizing thermal insulation. It's a big investment upfront, but will save a lot of money for both homeowners and the government in the future. Not to mention the obvious ecological benefits.
Some people think water tastes better crunchy
Your a poet!
Pets? One of my cats found a nice solution for that: recruit some dumb human as her heating pillow. (The "dumb human" is me, by the way.) And when I'm not on the bed she sleeps inside a blanket folded in the shape of a pocket.
...although winter here rarely goes below 0°C, subtropical region and all that shit. If I was a bit souther I'd probably have some heaters in the bedrooms, and that's it - there's no reason to heat the whole house.
If a sweaters enough you must live in a warm ass place.
God, I recall when we lost power for a week in the middle of a freeze, it was so cold that my multiple blankets weren't enough to keep me warm when trying to sleep. I had to break out a nasty comforter that I've got that doesn't breathe at all and gets real sweaty during normal weather. Worked well to lock in the heat.
It hit -8 C last week where I am, still a pleasant 20 C inside without having turned the heat on.
I probably get a lot of free heat from my neighbours apartments though, I would guess.
As long as it's bearable with additional layers on, I'm going to lean towards doing that, as cool bedrooms make for amazing sleep quality.
I have to turn on the heater for my cats or else I'll suffer the consequences.
Don't get mold buddy
Cold one or hot one?
Okay, I need some help here, where on earth can I find comfy hot inner slippers that doesn't disintegrate after a year or two?
13/47...
Edit: size 13 or 47 :-)
Dunno if these fit your needs, but this is the pair I have. Had them for maybe 6 or 7 years (light use, mostly just wear them indoors) and they're in great shape. Solid rubber sole, super warm, very comfy. I feel like they run small (I had to get a size up from my usual). Only gripe is that they had a tag on the inside that was tough to cut out cleanly.
I just have a pair of hiking boots that I wear indoors. I have them laced up very loose so that I can just pull them on without undoing the laces, almost like slippers. They're very warm and comfy.
That works, but I don't use shoes indoors so that would be kind of weird.
i'm gonna guess that the pounds per cubic clonk above is beeger deal than the size of clonk
yeah unless you're drying off the thermostat should never be above like 58 for heating. Layers fix everything else
Something that really should be used more is using those rubber hot water bottles. it won't heat your whole room, but it's great when paired with a blanket.
And risk burning yourself when the rubber wears out in 3 years and bursts?
Nah, get yourself one of those oat-filled microwavable teddies. Does the same job but with less risk of severe burns and doesn't need replaced every few years.
I use a fluffy cover on it to keep it warm for longer while not being as hot. I'll look into those teddoes though.
OK, OP... where do you live that a sweater is "enough"?
Denver, CO checking in and I'll take my central heat, thanks.
7200' here, I'll keep my furnace as well. I usually only keep it at 62°, unless I want a $600 gas bill. But, that the tradeoff of having mild awesome summers.
Just don't be poor. I haven't lowered my temp... Ever. If I can't wear shorts in my own house, I'm not interested.
Just embrace the cold and build up your brown fat which burns calories to keep you warm so you can eat pizza all day and stay skinny*.
- Not really but sorta
Not all of us carry that much fat around ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
How does that prevent you from wearing warm clothes?
Americans should start building their houses like Europeans. Made from brick, mortar and good insulation. Your houses are made from wood and paper.
This is.. Uninformed.
Nothing wrong with wood as a construction material. The key factor is the insulation.
looks around at countless houses made from wood I guess northern Sweden, which gets below -30°c every year, lost its European status.
You do realize that there's insulation in those walls right. That's the whole point of wood frame construction; you stuff the gaps between studs full of several inches of insulation. Besides, most of a homes heat loss isn't through the walls anyways. It's through any openings in those walls (windows, doors, etc) and through the roof.
Earthquakes would say otherwise for at least part of the US. Also, without full-time mechanical ventilation, that would be misery in a lot of the US. The climate is also different to some places in Europe and varies hugely on US region
Wood is a better insulator than brick actually. Sitting outside in the winter on a wooden bench would feel warmer than on one made of brick even if they are at the same temperature. A log cabin without insulation is better insulated than a brick building without insulation. Problem is that US homes aren’t log buildings but stick frames boarded up with cheap chipboard.
Such ignorant shit
./confidentlyincorrect
nobody can afford that here lol
Stop with this nonsense. This is the financial illiteracy that is being pointed out how Democrats lost because of the "economy".
Housing purchasing went up in price for a short while but stopped increasing so rapidly. More Gen Z owns their home by 30 than millennials. The rate is on par with gen x.
Most people in this country can afford a house and the upper third can afford very very nice houses.
It does not have to be brick and mortar. The house with the best insulation I know is made of wood and straw bales.
My dumbass old housemates would run the heater without closing the windows…
My old housemates were the opposite lol. We tried saving every penny on heating costs. In the winter, we taped the windows over with cardboard for better insulation (they are old single-pane windows), and fashioned an automatic door closer from an elastic cord to keep the door into the living room shut (our "warm zone"). Instead of using gas heating, we mined ETH with our gaming PC's (this was before ethereum went proof-of-stake). Between the three of us, the total energy output was close to 2kW, so totally viable for keeping the living room warm. Pretty sure we ended up earning money from heating the house lol.
I wish I had control of the thermostat. It would be 60° year round.
Edit: Forgot Europe exists 60°F = 15.56°C
Also does any one still call it centigrade?
Bro said Europe as if the rest of the world uses shitty ass Fahrenheit
The United States, Liberia, Micronesia, Cayman Islands, and the Marshall Islands use Fahrenheit. It's not just us. It's mostly us.
I've heard some people say it in England but dunno if it's actually common there. Was only a tourist.
That would be freezing to me, but we live in a place that rarely dips much below freezing and gets super hot with high humidity. Humidity + cold also sucks. We were like 23 today (70something) and have a number of days over 35 in the summer (with 90+ % humidity). I work outside in that heat so I'm much more acclimated to that
Well fuck the people not near the equator amirite?
Your landlord not providing heat? Just wear a sweater, stop being such a entitled tenant! /s
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Ironically, my dad is the one who insists on our house be heated up like a fucking lizard terrarium.
I got sick of wearing cheap jackets and still being cold and/or having them fall apart super quick, so I splurged on a Carhartt jacket. So worth it. This thing is toasty as fuck, water proof and could probably withstand a knife attack.
