lol, definitely missed some important context.
I guess it thought OOP meant “clean” as in how do you dress the bird before you cook it. (As in: “clean a fish” means to filet a fish and prep it for cooking.)
Nobody ask it how to dress a baby
Vegtables, garlic, basted with pan drippings.
Side of potatoes.
Swiftly
First you snap a shoulder socket........
Even then those are bad cleaning instructions...
But first it said they are usually clean. So that can’t be the context. If there was a context. But there is no context because AI is fucking stupid and all these c-suite assholes pushing it like their last bowel movement will be eating crow off of their golden parakeet about two years from now when all this nonsense finally goes away and the new shiny thing is flashing around.
There are signs of three distinct interpretations in the result:
- On topic, the concept of cleaning a wild bird you are trying to save
- Preparing a store bought Turkey (removing a label)
- Preparing a wild bird that is caught
It's actually a pretty good illustration of how AI assembles "information shaped text" and how smooth it can look and yet how dumb it can be about it. Unfortunately advocates will just say "I can't get this specific thing wrong when I ask it or another LLM, so there's no problem", even as it gets other stuff wrong. It's weird as you better be able to second guess the result, meaning you can never be confident in an answer you didn't already know, but when that's the case, it's not that great for factual stuff.
For "doesn't matter" content, it may do fine (generated alternatives to stock photography, silly meme pictures, random prattle from background NPCs in a game), but for "stuff that matters", Generative AI is frequently more of a headache than a help.
A: Just rescued a bird B: Oh, can I see it? A: Sorry, already ate it yesterday
It literally doesn't matter. When the most-used search engine on the planet automatically suggests these specific actions without you even clicking on a specific site? We're fucked. We had the chance to break up monopolies like Google, Microsoft and Facebook. We didn't take it...
No WE never had this option.
What the fuck are you talking about? Stop apologizing for AI, you clown.
Do you remove the "label" in step one of cleaning a fish? Please, tell us all where that is.
Wut?
I like the idea that these are scientist-monitored birds that you remove the tag from before dressing and eating.
It would make an interesting footnote in the scientific article that had this pigeon in the experiment.
"1 This pigeon was removed from the experiment as it was eaten by a local Florida Man."
"Subject study terminated due to invasive anthropomorphic predator."
This actually happens very frequently in the US. When hunters harvest a bird they report their kills in compliance with hunting regulations. If any of your birds have leg or neck bands you report that information as well. The bands have a tracking number on them, and scientists use them to monitor populations and migration patterns. It's literally part of their plan.
You get to keep the bands as well (I only have experience with banded geese and ducks). They're a neat memento.
This is a perfectly logical answer to a hunter.
"Remove the label"
This guy still thinks birds are real.
The bad hunter who misses all the shots and buys the fowl in the market
You don't want those wildlife conservationists trackimg things back to you later on.
One can assume that said AI is a confused moron, or that poaching is a legal crime, not a moral one XD
Got this result today
Mind you, today is the 18th. So, thanks a ton
It's not actually wrong, but it certainly didn't answer the actual question.
What if they asked the question during the day, then it would be correct
I'm going to build a bunch of cyborgs, who follow orders exclusively via googleAI.
I figure once I release about 4 billion of them into the world, either google stops doing evil shit, or they do REALLY evil shit. We shall see what happens....
It is kind of an Interesting idea: what does “statistical average morality” look like when it’s got a 3m tall power frame and a handheld howitzer?
If you asked me to clean a bird, this is exactly what I would think of. Though usually it involves removing lead shot, not labels.
I think it took note of it being about rescue pigeons and assumed they would have a tag on them and then gave cooking directions for them
That is the culinary answer for the question.
Is it telling steps to cook it
Well yeah, you have to clean it first.
Fun time to remind everyone that pigeons aren't native to the Americas, and were brought over originally by the French primarily as a food source (although also as messengers; carrier pigeons).
"Squab" on a menu is pigeon.
Pigeons are drones (confirmed)
Pigeon = edible bird
Cleaning a bird > preparing a bird after killing it (hunting term)
AI figured the "rescued" part was either a mistake or that the person wanted to eat a bird they rescued
If you make a research for "how to clean a dirty bird" you give it better context and it comes up with a better reply
"You're holding it wrong"
Let me take the tag off my bird then snap it's wings back together
But it said pigeons are usually clean.
Bought in a grocery store - see squab - they are usually clean and prepped for cooking. So while the de-boning instructions were not good, the AI wasn't technically wrong.
But while a human can make the same mistake and many here just assume the question was about how to wash a rescued pigeon - maybe that's not the original intent - what human can do that AI cannot is to ask for clarification to the original question and intent of the question. We do this kind of thing every day.
At the very best, AI can only supply multiple different answers if a poorly worded question is asked or it misunderstands something in the original question, (they seem to be very bad at even that or simply can't do it at all). And we would need to be able to choose the correct answer from several provided.
I mean, if they were actually "clean" and had a healthy diet compared to what they eat in urban areas, they could make an awesome protein source for the budget minded.
You theoretically could, but small birds like that have very little meat on their bones. Most hunt duck or turkey for a reason, the bigger birds have more meat.
You eat breasts.
Most people I know who hunt pigeons just take the breasts ("breasting pigeon") and bin the rest as it is not worth a hassle. Unlike turkey, you obviously need more than one pigeon for a meal unless you use it as a starter.
It’s all fun and games until someone gets hurt. They need to pull the plug on this shit and stop beta testing misinformation.
"snap to join" Ah, now it makes sense.
I find it hilarious that my personal AI, that can run on even a budget gaming PC, is far more reliable than most of these corporate ones 100x the size
Rescued and into the oven🤦
Perplexity fairs a bit better:
https://www.perplexity.ai/search/how-to-clean-a-rescued-pigeon-RVNc0XMjSy2QDJcqmzJ6CA
How do you get these AI an answers anyway?
Google may not have enabled them in your region. Here in the UK they just appeared for me one day, a few months after I initially saw screenshots of them online. I didn’t do anything to enable them.
Be more specific with the question.
"How do I wash a pigeon"
Or put every single word in quotations so it actually searches the whole string and doesn't truncate the query to just 2 or 3 keywords because this is clearly ignoring the "rescued" part.
For few years now I want to try eating pigeon so this answer might be useful for me.
Don't worry y'all AI will take r jerbs
They taste a lot like beef.
You take the breasts and fry them on olive oil with a little bit of garlic and soy sauce. Delicious.
I mean I'm fine with just looking at them roosting on the ledges of buildings, but I guess people will do a lot if they're hungry.
Bro, do you even squab?
Free range pigeon quality
I wanted to clean the toothpaste off him, but as soon as he saw me reading these instructions, he flew away. Thanks, Obama.
Just did the same question. Answer given to me was vastly different:
Me:
How to clean a rescued pidgeon
ChatGPT:
Cleaning a rescued pigeon should be done carefully to avoid stressing or harming the bird. Here's a step-by-step guide to help you:
1. Assess the Pigeon's Condition
- Check for injuries: If the pigeon is injured, weak, or sick, it's best to seek veterinary help before attempting to clean it.
- Observe behavior: If the pigeon is acting stressed or aggressive, you may need to wait until it calms down.
2. Prepare the Cleaning Area
- Warm water: Fill a basin or sink with lukewarm water, not hot or cold.
- Mild soap: Use a gentle soap or baby shampoo without strong fragrances or chemicals.
- Towels: Have clean towels ready for drying the pigeon afterward.
3. Handling the Pigeon Safely
- Wear gloves: This can protect both you and the bird.
- Secure hold: Hold the pigeon gently but firmly. Support its body with one hand and keep its wings close to its body to prevent flapping.
4. Cleaning the Pigeon
- Partial cleaning: Focus on specific dirty areas rather than submerging the whole bird if possible.
- Use a damp cloth: For lightly soiled areas, use a damp cloth or sponge to wipe the feathers gently.
- Bath for heavier dirt: If a full wash is needed, place the pigeon in the water up to its chest. Avoid getting its head and neck wet unless absolutely necessary.
5. Rinsing
- Rinse thoroughly: If you used soap, make sure to rinse all of it out of the feathers using clean, lukewarm water.
- Avoid the face: Be careful not to get water in the pigeon’s eyes, nose, or ears.
6. Drying the Pigeon
- Pat dry: Gently pat the pigeon with a towel to remove excess water. Avoid rubbing as it could damage the feathers.
- Warm place: Keep the pigeon in a warm, draft-free area until it is completely dry. You can use a hairdryer on the lowest setting if the pigeon tolerates it, but keep it at a safe distance to avoid overheating.
7. Post-Cleaning Care
- Observe behavior: Watch the pigeon for signs of stress or discomfort after the bath.
- Provide food and water: Ensure the pigeon has access to fresh water and a safe, comfortable place to rest.
Additional Tips
- Do not use strong disinfectants or chemicals that can harm the bird's sensitive skin and feathers.
- Limit baths to when absolutely necessary, as frequent cleaning can strip the natural oils from the pigeon's feathers.
If the pigeon seems injured or unwell, contact a wildlife rescue center or avian veterinarian for guidance.
Looks like ChatGPT trained their models better, probably before sites could take measures to prevent that. Gemini however was thrown together by throwing money and people at the problem in order to catch up and not be left behind. Which from what I've read seems to be their biggest fear.
My Pixel 9 has AI everywhere but I certainly wouldn't pay the price they want to continue "using" Gemini after my trial.
Public free chatbots go up and down. Until recently I was finding Microsoft copilot to give the best answers. But they downgraded it recently, probably to much cost to keep it at that level, and now I'm finding openAI direct website to give best results... for now.
I just hope for a good enough self hosted model to be available before all the comercial ones shut up over a paywall/adwall for good (which is definitely coming sooner than later).
Meh, pretty easy mistake of context.
I mean, not one a human would ever make.
First off, the word "rescued" would have immediately made the context of "protect the pigeon" clear.
Second, a "rescued pigeon" wouldn't have a label on it, so it's clearly mixing in something from likely a store bought turkey, but then the other steps don't make sense either as those don't apply either.
A traditional search approach would not have made the mistake either. It would either have failed to find anything or found actual on topic results. It's "clever" enough to genericize "pigeon" to "birds" and hit upon text related to birds from a grocery store and birds that you hunted and mix all that together in a coherent language but with content that is nonsense.
In this case, hilarious, in other day to day situations, it's maddening, as some professional colleague gets the same sort of nonsense but lacks knowledge to correct it and relays it as fact. Then when called out on the data was in fact so bad it wasted time, they just say 'oh, lol, AI' (they wanted to take credit for it if it worked, but can hide behind AI when it doesn't).
