Reddit is still a lot more crowded, but I prefer Lemmy simply because of no ads and the actual conversations that you can have with people.
This is exactly how I feel. Reddit is so full of bots, spam, and ads that it's really only good for checking a few niche subreddits. I can browse Lemmy at random and be pretty entertained.
Reddit comment is just bot paradise, once i realise bot just do repost and copy/paste comment, the value and urge of adding my own comment just immensely decrease.
Agreed. You could argue that Reddit is actually overcrowded.
Damn bruh, why won’t you click on my OF?
This.
Lol just a joke about the annoying "this" comments on Reddit.
Holy shit I completely forgot about those shitty comment metas. Lemmy comment sections are so much nicer
There a ways to remove ads from Reddit and it's much nicer to use, your can still use 3rd party apps like Boost, bots are still a problem.
I generally prefer Lemmy to Reddit, although I do miss being able to find niche communities that are both populated and active. Smaller communities tend to become ghost towns around here, unfortunately.
There are actually some interesting niche communities here you just have to look for them or at least you could just start them.
Lemmy absolutely.
- no algorithm
- no ads
- actual real people in the comments
- the ability for third parties to make apps
- the fact that it's not mainstream means most of the people on here are at least a little nerdy which I am here for.
- feels a lot like what reddit used to be 15 years ago before the age of algorithms and bots everywhere.
Lemmy 100% has an algorithm. It's not a complicated one but any method for determining what content shows up is an algorithm.
No the commenter but I think it’s one of those language things where algorithm (at least in the context of social media) has come to mean a personalized feed, like two people have different all feeds versus an algorithm like sorting by hot or active posts that every has the same posts. To your point both are algorithms but it’s one of those thing where the word has taken on its own meaning
Fair enough, but I'd say the other commenters have articulated what I meant pretty well
I prefer lemmy but miss the niche communities. The Swedish national community for instance, roleplaying communities, niche game communities etc.
Same. The thing lacking is user base and content. Also a backlog of older content as knowledge source, but that would come overtime with through the former.
As far as usability goes Iemmy is just as good as reddit was for me. My instance (lemme.ee) is stable and the app experience (currently "connect") is just as smooth as it was for reddit (where I used "relay").
I sadly have to admit that I don't contribute enough in terms of creating and posting threads.
Once I started using Lemmy I never touched Reddit again. So I guess Lemmy.
Lemmy. Federation and the lack of a profit motive makes it much better.
I would also rather be surrounded by leftist vs liberal drama, rather than liberal vs fascist drama.
The latter is actually a good point. I had almost forgotten how constant and combative reddit was at times with the far-right peeps and incels and whatnot. At the time it had become so normal, one didn’t even think about it. Maybe offer alternative ideas (= argue) a while or just ignore, but now that you mention it, I don’t think there has been many situations like that here, for me at least. Not to say that the enlightened centrists aren’t very much the same in practice, and those I face here every now and then. They just aren’t nearly as bad in substance.
Lemmy seems a lot less toxic than Reddit. Every now and then I see comments here of people that are assholes, but its not the norm. Whenever I would check the comment feeds in Reddit, so many of them devolve into petty bickering. It seemed like a quarter of the user base set out that day to either be pissed off, or to piss someone else off.
Honestly that seems like most of social media at the moment and I know I've mentioned the algorithm in every comment I made in this thread, but it really makes it suck.
Because that particular algorithm and its use is very capitalist, its purpose is to drive engagement for money with morality not even being considered, and the best way to do that is to make everyone angry. CGP Grey on YouTube has a good video on it I can link in an edit in a bit, but the gyst of it is that the algorithm shows us what makes us angry, we make other people angry, thus, a neverending cycle of people being addicted to getting pissed off.
Edit: link
Lemmy seems a lot less toxic than Reddit.
Not sure I am seeing the same. I posted a message about a bash command yesterday and it was almost immediately downvoted. And I have no idea why since it should work for what the person asking wanted/needed. That was one of my big issues with reddit was the sheer negativity that came out of that site and I know I am talking about a single downvote here, but it makes me pause. It has happened more than this one time which is why I get that feeling. I think some people really need to revisit the use of the downvote.
Agree, it feels like everyone wants it to be less toxic than Reddit but I’m not sure it actually is. There are just as many mods out of control, wild politics, trolls etc. here than there, and just because it’s a smaller community and easier to stick to your instance/ block others doesn’t mean it’s better. I certainly have more communities, servers, and individuals blocked on lemmy than I ever did on Reddit
that is part of using the internet. you see it less because less people use it. reddit has become a circle jerk just never become a community or group of people that likes to sniff there own farts. and this problem will solve itself.
It depends where you go - e.g. the entire purpose of chapotraphouse is to dunk on people, and the users on that instance constantly crawl out from under their bridge and harass innocent passer-bys in other communities. But if you block a few notable places, which sometimes your instance does for you (I note that yours in particular does not though), then overall the Fediverse can be quite a pleasant place!:-)
I haven't used reddit since the announcement of the API changes
honestly, I preferred reddit. But I'm here out of principle.
Size really does matter for sites like this. Reddit still hosts many smaller subs for niche topics that often have limited toxicity. Lemmy can't match it yet unfortunately.
Scrolled through a ton of comments but honestly this sums it all up for me. Lemmy isn't large enough to support niche memes and content.
I went back to reddit after finding a working patch that allows me to continue using 3rd party reddit app; reddit is Fun. I visit this site once a month just to check it out.
Reddit by far was a better experience; more content, better moderation, less negativity.
I’m still here on Lemmy, though, in hope of it getting better (and it definitely scratches the same itch as Reddit without the corporate arrogance).
That said, even though it annoys me, I do find myself getting exposed to a wider array of opinions on Lemmy that I just never saw on Reddit. And while I disagree with a lot of it it’s probably healthier for things to be that way. The tankies, though … so many tankies.
I haven’t posted on Reddit since they treated third party app devs like shit. I’m done with that site.
I like Lemmy, but it's too quiet, I often only see a dozen new posts total daily.
Can't doomscroll infinitely. Point for Lemmy
If you wanna do that gotta go to tiktok
Most of the time, lemmy.
Obviously, the difficulty with very niche communities not being useful here can be annoying.
And, being real, the lack of robust moderation tools makes moderating a pain in the ass.
But, overall, I find the people on lemmy less prone to bad behavior, and the discussions more rewarding. That makes up for the underlying missing functional things worth it.
Reddit, even before they went full asshole as a company, had the major problem of being big. Humans are assholes for the most part. The more people you have, and the lower the bar for entry, the more of those assholes are going to be a problem.
Lemmy has assholes too. The usual knee jerk reactionaries, trolls, and that sort of thing. But the very minor extra effort of having to pick an instance reduces how many of the brain dead assholes will put in the effort. The assholes are a better quality of asshole lol.
But damn, there were some long established communities on reddit that simply can't be reproduced here because you can't make old communities. There are a ton of subs that had been around since subs came around. You can't duplicate that kind of organic growth. There's very few C/s on lemmy that have a real sense of community yet. I think it'll happen, but it hasn't had time for a lot of real cultures to spring up the way reddit had.
I miss the hell out of those long established neighborhoods.
After almost a year of being Reddit free, I have been peeking back in there lately. It just doesn’t hit the same but I do lurk in some subs just because of the volume of content.
I do enjoy Lemmy though. I don’t feel as intimidated to make comments and like to feel we’re building something from the grass roots here.
Same for me. There are some interests I have (mostly niche games) that just don't have the population to have any sort of traction here. I don't comment or vote there anymore, and I'm only still logged in on my main PCs because I didn't bother logging out. Deleted all my old comments and posts.
Honestly also some very non niche things that are big on reddit aren't much of a thing here. Like the Netherlands subreddit is the second largest non English speaking sub. It's barely a thing on Lemmy.
Prefer Reddit’s volume of posts. Prefer lemmy in general. Disappointed that lemmy resembles reddit way too much.
Expand on this if you don’t mind. In what way does Lemmy disappoint you in how it resembles Reddit?
Focusing on the people and communities, since takes like "Lemmy has no ads" or "reddit has more content" are so obvious that there is zero point in sharing them, I would say Lemmy is better. I think the quality of discourse is a lot higher and people are more likely to type longer, thought out and educated (or well intentioned) comments. If I were to put it really simply, I'd say Lemmy's community is more centred around discussion, whereas reddit is centred around reaction.
However, one issue with Lemmy is that fringe groups and views are overrepresented (particularly left-leaning ones), which can result in an echo-chamber effect in many discussions. I find pile-on attempts, or accusations of fascism, Nazism and right-wing trolling, are a lot more common here towards users who don't immediately join in with a far left circlejerk or attempt to bring a little more nuance or critical thinking to a discussion. Dylan Marron, host of the podcast 'Conversations With People Who Hate Me', once said in an interview that social media pile-ons from people who are actually on your own side hurt a lot more than pile-ons from people who fundamentally disagree with you and I think there's a lot of truth to that. It frustrates me that some Lemmy users shutdown and try to "other" people the moment they have a minor or semantic disagreement with them, instead of taking the time to hash it out or just politely agreeing to disagree. It's kind of ironic that federation allows communities to isolate themselves, yet instead these people remain federated with everyone and then get really offended and outraged when they're confronted with world views that even slightly differ from their own.
But anyway, that type of person is still a minority and Lemmy is, for the most part, a significantly better environment than reddit for polite and intelligent discussion.
I prefer Lemmy but I find content and user base lacking
Lemmy.
I do prefer the size of Reddit, but I am continuing the API changes protest. Sup, that's it. If they reverse it, I might return, although the UI has changed again. Wouldn't mean I'd leave Lemmy, just use both.
I haven't actually used it with 3rd party apps, I used to do the same as I am doing right now, desktop website on my phone, but I do support the protests and I am not giving up after 2 days.I much prefer Lemmy, when RIF shut down I migrated and never looked back. Lemmy isn't as crowded as Reddit became and reminds me of how Reddit used to look and feel.
I also signed up to Mastodon and between the two (Lemmy and Mastodon) get all the information and entertainment I ever got from Reddit without all the dickheads that now populate Reddit.
I avoid reddit out of principle even though I would prefer it. It's only going down hill from here on out and they've neglected their app so much it's too painful to attempt to use it.
My main reasoning is content and sometimes the comments. Content here is a bit slow but a lot commenters are kind of a-holes and painfully obnoxious. Especially from lemmy.ml, always a little anxious when I comment.
Lemmy. Reddit has become what it was a bastion from.
This is exactly how I feel
I would prefer Lemmy/Kbin but all the communities I actively followed on Reddit are still there
Lemmy, and I'm never going back. I just wish we had the abundance of content that Reddit does. There's a lot of communities I miss.
Honestly, at this point I kinda prefer to go on Reddit. I'm getting tired of all the tech/FOSS talk and there's so much doom and gloom on here it just bums me out.
I haven't looked back. fuck reddit. fuck spez. fuck their whole puke filled world that was built on the backs of nice internet people that they turned into a profit rearing meatlocker of piss and complaints, still peppered with shitty, out of date memes.
Reddit, but I won't post or engage there on principle.
I prefer Lemmy for:
- actually engaging with content (commenting/posting/voting) instead of simply consuming. By the time the API restrictions came around and the ads/bots started to dominate, it felt pointless to engage on Reddit any more.
- the positive parts of the federated and FOSS nature. Choose an instance, build your own, use or build any client you want to, federate or defederate whoever you want.
I prefer Reddit for:
- getting info/recommendations on things. The knowledge base is magnitudes larger than anything Lemmy can offer atm. Also, due to the centralized nature, it's so much easier to search for something on Reddit.
Lemmy's got some problems and I can't stand the interinstance drama, also, due to the decentralized nature, some instances can't keep up or the admins don't care any more, so whole communities can essentially be held hostage or simply die until a toolset to move a community from one instance to another (and propagate the change properly to the Fediverse) becomes available.
Reddit continuously grew more toxic with astroturfers, bots, and other bad-faith actors after the protest. I deleted all of my accounts the day they went public since that was the previously planned line-in-the-sand for me. I only visit periodically every few days to check my local towns subreddit for news. It would be nice to have a bigger community with Lemmy but I certainly don't miss the constant arguments.
Consider that I’m free to use either of these, and that we are having this conversation here, on Lemmy.
Nevertheless, the thread has been interesting.
Honestly I'm engaging more on lemmy in comments but if you manage to create a nice list of fun subs to follow on reddit a lot of complaints about bots and stuff are less problematic. Then again I also follow some Dutch subs and they seem to have less bots with the language barrier and all.
Lemmy does seem to be more negative though. A lot of doom and gloom here. I'm not really into Linux but I'll admit that windows and Microsoft ain't great. However the amount of complaining about how shit Microsoft is on stead of being enthusiastic about Linux baffles me. And you see these things in other communities too. The reddit helldivers community seems to be a bunch of memes and the lemmy oke a bunch of complaints.
Then again my comments seem to actually reach people on Lemmy so I am more active here.
We have far better discussions on Lemmy, but there are some really niche communities I follow on Reddit still because there aren't enough interested folks here on Lemmy.
i prefer mbin
I haven’t touched reddit to browse it since I made my lemmy account. I still wind up there from an occasional search with no other relevant results.
The way lemmy functions is vastly superior to reddit IMO and I have no plans to return.
Pretty much the same here. This scratches the very same itch that reddit did, but has several bonuses on top.
This right here, other than a thread or two, I have not been back since I ditched it last June.
General usage, Lemmy
Technical usage, Reddit.
Same. I have trade and niche hobby interests that don't have critical mass here.
Conversations are better here tho
Lemmy, reddit is more active and has more content but Lemmy will get there. The front page is awful now. It's full of ads and suggested crap. I subscribed to things for a reason. I liked seeing posts I cared about. This shoving content down my throat approach curiously made me get off the site sooner.
lemmy doesn't have spez, so lemmy is better.
Still stuck between both, but when I’m on reddit I’m using a sideloaded version of Apollo with my own API key while logged out, so theoretically they can’t actually collect any data.
Reddit is obviously more active, even though a huge chunk of that activity is bots, but I like it here better. My only complaint is that my home page is weird sometimes and doesn’t show posts newer than a day or two.
Lemmy is better, but the communities I care the most about and want to give the most to aren't on lemmy, so I don't really have the luxury of using it quite as much as I'd like. I do like it here, though
Is this a trick question
Lemmy
Reddit for sure. But I absolutely refuse to use their app so I use it in the web browser but not a lot because reddit sucks on mobile. So I mostly use Lemmy on my phone.
On desktop I use both.
Reddit definitely has more users and more communities that don't exist here but I prefer lemmy because no ads and no corporation trying to sell my data
lemmy, but I still check reddit after I'm done here
I deleted 2 Reddit account with over 10M combined karma during the shit show last year. Have never gone back. Lemmy is a million times better, even if I'm missing some of my local communities.
I like Lemmy more. I visit 4 subs on Reddit, not daily. I think it doesn’t have to be an either/or necessarily. I refuse to use their app. Rip baconreader.
Lemmy by fucking MILES.
- no ads
- no enshittificafion
- federated ecosystem
- OSS
- self-hostable
- no aggregate karma (so karma farming/selling is completely meaningless)
- userbase genuinely feels a lot less dumb
- loads of other things that I’m forgetting/too lazy to fully enumerate right now
I prefer Lemmy, but unfortunately it is missing a lot of the communities I liked on Reddit, and there doesn't seem to be as much content. When I'm looking for information on a specific topic I'll still check out Reddit but I haven't logged in since the Reddit drama and don't plan to. I do hope Lemmy gets bigger, though.
Lemmy, overall. There are things I miss from Reddit but whenever I browse it now it's just so full of advertising.
Only lemmy. I visit reddit maybe once a week now
Lemmy for good content and discussion. Reddit still has niche fan communities that will probably never migrate over here, but I can always hope.
Lemmy, teddit and libreddit
Mostly on Lemmy with Voyager, and sometimes check Reddit with Libreddit (until it lasts).
Best of both worlds.
Doesnt matter reddit kicked me out, so...
Reddit was realy god in my local areal, so thats what immissinhg. Lemmy,isnt just there yet. Not many from my area. So yir i like Lemmy for the lack of adds, and for notsellinhg my data
Are you serious? We're on Lemmy.Definitely Reddit.
Ive been enjoying Lemmy again after uninstalling reddit after growing tired of seeing nothing but bad news in my feed (probably something I could fix but at the same time I was supposed to have left the site anyways), reddit still has the edge in content but Lemmy is still a good time killer for me.
Lemmy for sure, I love this place so much!
I hate reddit but I was forced to go there since I apparently have nice interested, but they started going private and now I just use reddit for porn curation
I use both but I'll ditch reddit as soon as I can't patch apps like Infinity with my own api key. Reddits more active but it's also horrible to use if you don't jump through hoop.
By now, Lemmy, hands down. I do sometimes end up on reddit from searching for stuff, and I check every now and then if I got any messages on my old accounts just in case someone wants to reach out, but overall - even without niche communities, Lemmy is just the better experience for me, personally.
What’s a ReDdiT?
I deleted my Reddit account - way too toxic, too much racism (Russia-hate).
Browse both Reddit (stealth) and Lemmy. But I post only on Lemmy
Lemmy. Though I do check out the live formula 1 race thread on Reddit when there's a race on. There is also one on lemmy, but it's pretty dead.
They IP banned me. So they can suck my 8 inches.
