Twitter/X new ID Verification - First Look
Twitter/X new ID Verification - First Look
Thanks to Popcrave https://twitter.com/popcrave/status/1691852136236327316?s=46&t=lcH0dp9biwkMEBKsRQeVeQ
Who here is going to put their ID and photo on X/Twitter
Nobody, absolutely nobody should trust that idiot with your ID.
If you always wanted to leak your ID to a bunch of hackers thanks to poor security practices, this is a great opportunity for you to do so
Nothing the credit agencies don't already leak every year or two...
or everyone could recognize that he is far more malevolent toward you than any hacker could possibly be, but yeah, they definitely have no security that worries about YOUR data
It's not about trusting some idiot. It's about attaching your identity to your activities online. I remember when these websites used to advise against doxing yourself.
Then swatting opponents will be much easier
Shouldn’t trust Twitter users either, they’ll take an out of context joke you made back in 2011 and ruin your life over it.
Honestly, just fuck talking to people online. Literal no good will ever come of it. I’m just gonna stop communicating with people.
This shit is so dumb, no upside, only downsides
He's gonna dox all the liberals/lefties. Wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't the original plan.
And journalists if they report on him negatively, or oppose his Russian “peace” talk suggestions, even if it puts their career in danger where they live. Peak freedom of speech absolutism!
Instructions unclear. Uploaded my social security card and DNA samples.
I would trust pornhub with my ID more than I'd trust that asshat with it.
They'd at least understand the need for privacy
Twitter aside, if any website or app ever asks this of you, please nope the fuck out.
I guess it only occasionally makes sense for government web sites and banks. X might have ambitions to become a bank, so in that sense it might make sense.
So another piece of advice: if twitter ever asks you if you want to start using it for banking, nope the fuck out.
You Americans should get to this century and start performing digital strong authentications like the rest of us. Sending picture of your ID to anyone is insane :)
How we do it here in Finland is that there are digital identity providers which use bank/mobile carrier to identify you. They then use MFA when identifying you. Any service can use these services to do strong authentication for you. And they don't cost anything for the customer, and is really cheap for the company who wants to identify you. It is also build into the law that you must identify people using these, to avoid identity theft.
The only government function that has ever wanted a "selfie" was for my drivers license and passport. Both of which feature that picture. But I've never done either through a site.
It’s stupid as well, because it’s impossible to authenticate an id or passport from a photo. You can just photoshop something and send that in.
incorrect. it is actually fairly easy to authenticate an id or passport from a photo. Photoshopping something is easily spotted by a trained eye. Source i work as a document expert for an online ID verification company. the amount of fakes we spot each day are fairly large and its not all automatically processed. Also for those people that don't know where there data is proccesed. there are actually a lot of laws in place to protect your data for example for EU citizens
Then nope the fuck out of Hetzner then. They asked that of me.
Strange, I don’t remember them asking me that.
Outside of services where you need to access it (ex. school / exams / government services), one beneficial one might be dating apps. There's an advantage to being verified.
Although none of them ask for ID from what I understand, just "hold up 3 fingers and take a touch your nose" or something...
Now imagine if all websites did
PayPal did and I need this service for almost any online purchase. Credit card is uncommon here and expensive. :/
Yep. Fuck you airbnb!
This.👆
Don't do this. Delete your Xitter account and use Mastodon instead.
Xitter
In my head that's pronounced "shitter"
That is indeed my intent.
I'm seeing equal parts shitter and exiter.
Man I never had a Twitter account to begin with, lol. Any Internet site that wants my ID can eat a dick instead because I will straight-up close that tab and 360 moonwalk right out the door.
- While "Safety Dance" plays faintly in the background.
This is the right answer.
Xitler?
I got a mastodon, but there's nothing there.
You have to work to populate it.
Do you mean nothing as in your feed has barely any posts? Or nothing as is there's no one interesting to follow?
Give it time. With both Xitter and reddit trying to kill themselves, and Threads dead on arrival, adoption of both Lemmy and Mastodon is going up.
90s: stay anonymous, be careful with strangers, don't give up any more info than you have to. The internet can be a dangerous place. Also, supervise your kids and have them ask permission to go online.
2010s-2020s: livestream your life 24/7, use real names and emails everywhere when signing up for bullshit, hand your kid a phone and let them go buck wild as well.
How did we stray like this?
It's also ironic that the same generation of parents telling us to be careful online and "don't believe everything you see on TV" are the same ones that get their news from grifter pundits and divisive facebook memes generated by Russian bot farms.
It’s remarkable isn’t it? Now we’re the ones telling our parents to turn off the TV and get off the internet or it’ll rot their brains.
growing up these days includes realizing your parents are shameful hypocrites who are knowingly destroying the world
The funny thing is that you probably think you get news legitimately.
But the truth is that it’s all propaganda. The only difference between CNN and Fox, or reddit/Twitter/Facebook, is the angle.
But it’s all bullshit.
‘News’ doesn’t exist anymore, instead of just giving the facts, every article tries to tell you what you should think.
Boomers love to give advice and they hate to follow it—even their own!
I still sign up for websites with the following credentials:
Joe Blow 6969 Penetration Ave Beverly Hills, California 90210
I usually use the email "[email protected]"
People got mad when they didn't know who insulted them online
governments and politicians got their hands on it
I miss the 90's, a better time for sure.
Feels quite dystopian at the moment.
I, for one, want to thank Elon Musk for graciously backing up my highly sensitive government ID (that has my birthdate, eye color, height, weight), my biometric data, and likeness! It is such a nice thing to centralize all my most sensitive data into one giant honeypot waiting to meltdown. It is made even more appealing after he fired the entire staff responsible for maintaining this honeypot!
It does say "for up to 30 days". Would've been better if it was 24 hours, but after the initial wave of verifications, there probably won't be much there.
That is assuming you can trust the company that does the verification for them.
Looking forward to the inevitable massive data breach.
Will be even more interesting when they inevitably hold the data for longer than the 30 days
Providing this info in the first place is the data breach... 🥴
it's not a matter of if, but a matter of when.
There is absolutely 0 chance I'm sending any documents to the clown in chief
can i just draw an ID in crayon and send in a selfie of me wearing my sick shades and an N95 mask?
The chief twit.
can i just draw an ID in crayon and send in a selfie of me wearing my sick shades and an N95 mask?
There is absolutely 0 chance I'm sending any documents to the clown in chief
a clown has to make people laugh. it's a tough job.
imagine elonMusk trying to please people!
But what about Elon?
Man, Elon's got one hell of a boner for WeChat, huh? I honestly feel embarassed for him. WeChat is WeChat because it's Chinese -- there is no secret formula for Elon to steal. The circumstances which created WeChat simply do not exist in the west and IMO it should stay that way.
Tbf, I think he has wanted to have an everything app going back to his PayPal days. I still think it's a stupid idea for the American market.
There's an entire plotline in Startup where the main character is desperately trying to create an everything app after seeing someone in an Asian country with 1 app on their phone.
Spoiler alert - most of the development staff ends up quitting and it bombs on launch because nobody in the West is remotely interested in an "everything" app.
It exists. It's called android! Honestly though, that's why Google developed it. They wanted to maintain control and stay as the primary Internet portal for mobile users. Banking, messaging, gaming and productivity all passes through them.
We chat has similar in China but only because competitors were stifled. It won't work in the west as competition for any aspect will be better for some people and anticompetitive behavior will be clamped down on even if it started to work.
Nobody noticed “Be prepared to take a sefie” !?
I can guarantee that this was pushed out the door without any actual forethought or planning. Because Elon probably decreed that it had to be done now, so the devs were forced to push to prod without any actual testing ahead of time.
i can’t think of a better way to handle the rollout of a new identity verification system
Camera must be uncovered.
not my frist language, what's wrong with it?
Just a typo, should be "selfie". Indicates poor quality control.
Bahaha nice catch.
Ah yes, just take a photo of your id. Surely X can be trusted, right… right guys?
Sure it can. Just wait 'til it also becomes your banking app, keeping your money totally safe, then you'll be able to double trust it. Would space karen x ever lie to anyone? /s
Of course she wouldn't lie to anyone. Just wait 'til your totally safely kept money becomes programmable by central banks, regulating where you can spend it, when you can spend it, what you can spend it on, and builds a neat profile of yourself linking every single activity you do, online and offline. We wouldn't want any terrorists or bad citizens to be out there now, would we? /s
If they ever have a data breach I'm sure they'll totally do right by the consumer also 🙄
Wouldn't trust this clown with my digital words, let alone a copy of my actual ID
I'm sure they would offer 6 months of free credit screening as a consolation like all the other companies do. Just enter your social security number so they know what to look out for.
it won't be mandatory, unfortunately. Would've loved to see another fediverse mass migration
The eternal september moment for the fediverse is very much coming
interesting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September
Fuck. I was hoping Elon had a meltdown and made it mandatory.
Not that Elon having some of your more pedigree info could possibly ever go wrong!
Yeah, it's only for people stupid enough to pay for Twitter.
Yeah I don't know who they ask to do this but I've been on Twitter since 2014 and they've never shown me this and if they mandated it I'd leave even though they already have my phone number and know who I'm.
Online banks use this method. I am not happy with this either. It's government-regulated, so OK (sort of).
A social media site? No, thank you.
Banks are usually bound by KYC (know your customer) laws and are required to verify your identity. Imagine trusting some random third-party company with your photo ID though... Insane.
actually, two companies.
you give up your id forever to an id verification company + twitter stores it for 30 daysWell it's obvious that Musk wants X to be a bank, so this isn't unexpected.
Banks have significantly stronger security and PII measures than X ever will, as well.
yeah, that's obvious. you need a photo of your id in order to open a bank account...
they usually process the data on their own though without using third partiesMy bank has NEVER asked my for my photo ID online. And rarely in person at a branch.
Exciting times for hackers !
Not only would you lose your SSN as an american citizen, you would also lose your credit score due to automated identity theft and possibly your mortgage (and more!)
I mean if you want your identity to be stolen, theres other equally fast ways
Hahahahaha no.
Besides, what makes them think I even have a government ID? I don't drive and I'd only need a passport if I had to leave the country.
Looooooooots of people don't have ID.
Looooooooots of people don’t have ID.
In the civilized world, this is pretty endemic to your country and is actually a problem there as I understand.
Personally, where I live, I couldn't even vote or reliably buy alcohol if I didn't have some form of ID to prove my identity or age (okay, I haven't been carded in years, but it COULD happen). This is OK because everyone is mandated to have ID anyway (and it's not in any way difficult to get one), so requiring ID for voting, for an example, doesn't discriminate against poor people like in the US.
That said, X still wouldn't get my ID. I haven't even given it to Google, despite them asking me for it so I could watch music videos with a lil bit of swearing or something (Funny thing being, my YouTube account is about old enough that in a year or 2 it can go buy beer here in the EU)
This is a very American thing isn't it ? To not have at least a passport
Not having a passport for sure is an American thing, but I believe we carry and are required to use our IDs more frequently than other countries , which usually comes in the form of a state-issued drivers license/state ID card.
We drive more often and that requires having it on you at all times. Also every store is pretty strictly required to check it when buying alcohol, tobacco, and marijuana. And having to be 21 to buy those things kind of presents more of a need to check it since it's harder to judge based on looks.
like no one here has a passport. It’s not like your boss is gonna let you leave the country anyway.
According to white liberals, it's mostly black people that don't have ID. It gets brought up every time someone suggests making people present an ID card to vote. Most Americans go their whole lives and never leave the country, so passports aren't as ubiquitous as they are in other countries.
Do you not have a job or bank account?
Driver's licences don't count?
They said they don't drive
Oh, a DL absolutely counts.
If all the ignorant masses don't wake up to this WEF fuckery and it becomes "normalized" to need this for everything, then you'll need it to receive your basic universal payment in centralized digital currency. You'll also need it to incorporate your global "green score" which is like a type of social credit. Once cash is gone and decentralized crypto is illegal to own, most people will comply so they don't starve. A 100% identifiable human 100% tracked and controlled. Fail to comply to something and your identity gets switched off. Nothing works for you now. This is not fiction. Just pay attention to the agenda of WEF. And if you think this can't or won't happen then please explain how the fuck Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, LinkedIn still exist? Every person who is faced with this request for government issued ID for anything that isn't government should refuse and leave. Trusting these incompetent and abusive corporations with even more private information is illogical. They can't keep anything safe now. Giving them more won't "save you from the hackers". That is a disingenuous deception to double down on control. They care nothing for your privacy, safety or well being. "We had a data breach and your personal information has been compromised. It includes your name, email, phone number, address and government issued ID with face scan. Oops, sorry".
Everyone needs to say "NO" to this now!
I am going to continue not having an account and not having to deal with this.
As soon as this is mandatory it's bye bye for my Twitter account. I don't use it for the most part anyway.
I just remembered this might be illegal in the EU. A digital service company is not allowed to process identifying information unless in very specific circumstances (e.g. online banking or government processes).
That's straight up incompatible with GDPR in my opinion.
Obligatory IANAL.
Same
Been working for me.
Normalizing proving who you are to random online companies. I can't see how this could backfire.
Why would anybody do this?
That’s literally what I thought about installing Chrome and sharing my browsing history with Google. Why would I get a Facebook account and share my name, my face and my daily activities with the entire world. I thought that this is just pure insanity, and nobody will ever go along with this level of stupidity. Oh, boy was I in for a surprise.
Look who is laughing now that Chrome is the number one browser and many websites are only tested on Chrome. FB has so many users that people think it’s really odd that I’m not there with everyone else.
Elon promised that if you sign up for a paid premium account and it gets a lot of engagement, then X will give you money. There are a lot of fools who will gladly share their ID for free money. Of course, the money will never come, but that won't stop the suckers signing up for this.
Is sefie the new covfefe?
I thought it was fake because of the typo, then I remembered that it's Xitter and they probably don't have someone proofreading stuff anymore.
Au10tix
I wonder if Elon demanded they use this company for identity verification because of their creative use of the letter X
Too bad Twitter didn't already have a fully-functional identity verification system 6 months ago, which didn't require the exposure of any sensitive PII. Would be crazy if that had been a thing, eh?
How did they do it in the before-times?
A hand written note from your mother.
Ha ha ha ha ha... No.
I read that in Alex Trebek's voice.
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Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
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I genuinely don’t care about pretty much every other piece of drama related to X but I won’t be giving any social media or my government issued ID that won’t be happening.
Commence operation dick pic
It was already failing, now it's just going overkill.
I for one am thoroughly impressed (and depressed) at how much it is taking for people to actually leave.
Is Twittex now going to sell weed or why do they want driver license photos?
TwiX
Hey, there was only a right TwiX in my packaging
Are you signing up for broker wtf. Should I give you my bank information too?
Yes. They'd love that!! DNA sample after that lol
Not a chance in hell I would give them that info
Well my drivers license of a penis is really going to pay off this time. unzips pants
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LOL, literally speedrunning Twitter's bankruptcy.
I have a thought that I can’t let go, that it has been the plan all along to get rid of twitter, but just buying it and shutting it down would cause too much trouble compared to just take crazy decisions until it crashes by itself.
Not something I strongly belief but a small thought that keeps returning.
I have a thought that I can’t let go,
It's going to be some batshit crazy idea that Elon makes bad decisions on purpose isn't it?
that it has been the plan all along to get rid of twitter, but just buying it and shutting it down would cause too much trouble compared to just take crazy decisions until it crashes by itself.
sigh, there it is.
If he actually bought it to close the gates of hell then I'll have to respect him for that
didn't he try not to buy it and was forced by a court decision?
thinking that he is evil is to overrate elonMusk.
He thought he could do whatever he wants and whenever. Laws were there to remind him that his statements had consequences for him.
he is just making one decision after another.
Every time I think "wow Twitter isn't dead yet?", Elon just goes "bet" and introduces another terrible idea.
Thank god for Mastodon
✅ Biometrics and ID stored forever who-knows-where
✅ Continued data mining and exploitation
✅ Total surveillance state
💩 The enshittification continues. Gotta love it.
Seriously though... I'm not bullish on this platform. I don't know what it's turning into, but if it truly is a "WeChat of the West," it's not something I'm interested in participating in. And I don't wanna have a hand in building it.
In this route, it means that X would really become an identity platform.
And us being on this platform gives it value. Gives it validity.
I wonder every single day if it makes sense to leave the platforms in protest, or stay in the belly of the beast and raise awareness from within.
I see value in both, but I don't think there's a way to know which is the "correct" or "best" approach until you have hindsight.
Either way, it's clear that we don't matter for anything other than exploitation. The business model doesn't allow for anything else, really.
Side note: Here's a clean version of the URL: https://twitter.com/popcrave/status/1691852136236327316
(Remember to delete everything after the ampersand. Everything after it is an identifier.)
I already hated twitter before, but this is a whole new league of bullshit.
Lol, no thanks.
Hahaha what the fuck
Jesus fucking christ
I'm saying ❌ to that
Wow, sure don't want to try that out!
If I'm actually verified, I probably won't be able to get away with saying half of the dumb things I say here.
So, that's a no from me.
Yeah, I don't want Musk knowing where my Mojo Dojo Casa House is. He'd just show up there and be weird.
Glad you've seen the movie, doctor!
Three months from now: Ring of previously anonymous fascists on x exposed via hack
Are they requiring that?
I deleted my main, still have an AD. Guess that will probably be going too.
Wtf no
I've made a mistake by trying to restore a old Facebook account that I wanted to "delete", I even attempted it on two occasions, of course they demand an ID picture but their website is horrible with the phone camera so the pics always came out blurry so they always refused them.
Never again.
We’re going to find out in a few years that some congressman’s son or a defense contractor or whatever founded all these “ID verify” systems that are worse than nothing. State IDs will be useless in a few years after the 500th data breach and kids will be j/o to porn their ancestors couldn’t even imagine.
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What's stopping someone from printing a fake ID on paper? Also would a printed photo pass the "selfie" test?
This kind of verification usually works by the user being visible on camera and holding their ID up to the camera, turning it in multiple directions to show its safety features.
They're really struggling with this whole "verification" thing. Maybe getting rid of verification on the first place just to sell an emoji next to people's name was a bad idea in the first place!
It's just the first step before TwitterX turns into an "everything" app.
community notes mention this will be a feature of X premium.
X.
premium.
My expectations were low, but holy shit.
I always figured we'd end up with a forum like the one from ender's game. sucks tho.
never elon
Literally 1984
Have you read that book? Because it sounds like you haven't...
Not really. Literally 1984 would be mass surveillance, even inside your home, media everywhere, rewriting history. Some US states start to fit this.
No it's 2023.
Cmon! Why people are still using it?
I mean, I never used Twitter in the first place so I'm not the target audience; but this would be a hard pass for me.
where did this image come from?
It's in the link in the OP
Via https://twitter.com/nima_owji who is known for leaking twitter updates etc
he's allegedly not where this image is from, he's gotten it from some other source. But I guess if it's leaks there wouldnt be a source.
Yeah we need a source on this one
It's in the link in the OP
Via https://twitter.com/nima_owji who is known for leaking twitter updates etc
Fediverse about to be eating good
"take a sefie" followed by TOS
Run forest RUUUNN!
Coinbase? Is that you?
There's no way of knowing, they never shared their ID with me after I sent mine to them. Talk about a one way relationship...
Might as well just publicly post your id photo on xitter, same amount of security
Well, if I hadn't dropped twitter when they called the CBC state run media, I would have over this.
I swear the God. It feels like Musk gets in a room to concoct how they can make their company shittier.
"Elon, how about if we make the app more appealing to a wider audience by moderating hate content?"
"No, but what about if we get rid of the reason why it's valuable, we rename it to a shitty name, we allow more hate and then we demand people to provide IDs?"
"Umm, sure.."
Instagram wanted similar for me to "reactivate your account after not logging in for an extended period of time"
Nope, Instagram is not that important to me. Fuck you Zuckerberg.
I just hope it doesn't become mandatory and if it does I'm getting the fuck out of "X"
Lol no thanks
It's definitely a good thing I ain't got an account on that dumpster fire nor am I ever gonna have one, especially with Musky Husky making the fire worse.
I'm assuming this is only for blue checks. This is too big of a PITA for ordinary users. They'll just log out and go somewhere else.
naa i aint doing that
instresting
Elon can go huff his Musk.
Not me most likely.
Anything you say can and will be used against you.
I assume just for verified users? A good way to weed out bots, and only suckers, grifters and sex workers with no better options are verified anymore anyway. So limited harm.
doesn't he have a shitload of satellites up in the sky, basically watching and listening to everything
If this is used for account verification and paid "verification" will be removed, then do not see any issue here.
What makes you think the paid verification would go away?
My brain and wishful thinking. Then again Twitter can die in a fire.
Alright alright, I get the bandwagon hate for Elon. But think of it this way. ID verification would reduce bots and malicious accounts that are used for “grass roots” advertising or to swing political elections
Sure but that's his problem not mine. I don't care if there are bots on Twitter. I do care about my privacy though. No way I would trust his company with that information.
No, it would only reduce the bots on one side of the political spectrum.
Elon's own bots won't get banned.
…except the ones used for grass roots advertising or to swing political elections in a way Elon likes
