Farmers plead ‘stop our fields flooding’ as Trump opens dams
Farmers plead ‘stop our fields flooding’ as Trump opens dams
Trump gloated Friday about sending billions of gallons of water to southern California.
Summary
California officials warned that Trump’s order to release massive amounts of water nearly caused severe flooding for farmers.
Trump boasted about the move, claiming it would help fight wildfires, but experts said the water couldn’t reach affected areas, which are over 200 miles away.
The Army Corps of Engineers initially planned to release water at maximum capacity but scaled back after urgent pushback.
Experts warned the water could have been better used months later for irrigation.
Why did that shooter have to miss?
He didn't miss, he hit people in the crowd.
It's about what I expect from conservative shooters. Shooting everyone except the people who should be shot.
Because it was a stunt to make the fat orange idiot look like a hero.
Oh come on, that was by accident. Let's not fall down to their level with the idiotic conspiracies.
"I went forward in time...to view alternate futures. To see all the possible outcomes of the assassination attempt."
"How many did you see?"
"Fourteen million six hundred and five."
"How many were successful?"
"All but one."
Everyday I curse him for missing
"Inches from a better world" has been a common phrase on my mind, with the added benefit of really needing a lot of context before the magastappo get pissy.
When it comes to presidential assassinations, there's really no replacing the efficacy of Marine Corps marksmanship training.
damn bruh, it's like he's trying to fuck the country in order to please a foreign adversary and spare himself an unpleasant fate.
trying to fuck the country
No just the blue states who dont like him
Edit: keyword "trying." Hes trying to fuck the blue states. yall down voting me into oblivion like trump doesnt have a clear vendetta against calfiornia. Yea, hes hurting the whole country as collateral damage, but lets not pretend that parts on purpose. Hes an idiot who has never understood the ramifications of his decisions. This orange turd see and opportunity to hurt california , and he takes it becuase its California, not because hes smart enough to understand
Edit 2: in this same thread is a Comment that says "hes just trying to destroy california" with clear upvotes. Has lemmy become the reddit hive mind already? Sheesh
Destroying the nation's food supply by flooding fields, deporting the workers, and imposing tarrifs on outside sources of food is objectively bad for the entire nation, and the only people who could possibly benefit are America's global adversaries.
Even if Trump is too stupid to know it, the rest of his administration is not. The fact that they haven't enacted the 25th amendment is a clear indication that hurting America is the goal.
A hungry crowd is an angry mob, and I'm increasingly worried this will end in mass violence.
Naw man, murica first. He's clearly playing 8d chess. Canada ain't never dun nothin
I have driven by countless large signs from California farmers supporting trump. I hope they enjoy the flooding.
It's a face eating extravaganza - for the leopards that is.
He is a complete moron. He is wrong about literally everything and it is pathetic.
He's so cartoonishly moronic, he makes Portal 2's Wheatley look like a Harvard graduate.
I! AM! NOT! A! MORON!
Anti-intellectualism is one hell of a drug.
He is going to "common sense" America into Idiocracy. Remember his fantastic solution to COVID (injecting bleach + UV)? Or nuking hurricanes? When you make all the scientists run away, you end up with "the idea sounded good in my head... after a few beers".
He’s weak, confused and incompetent.
This motherfucker really is all four horsemen of the apocalypse all at once huh?
He really is a cow in a porcelain store.
The Conservative subs have been really quiet for the last few days, after all their glee a fortnight ago.
Almost like they are hiding.
Oh no don’t worry there is plenty of leopards eating people’s faces going on. I’ve seen so many crying about how these tariffs are gonna cost them jobs. Also saw some posts by conservative women pissed off when they found out DEI includes them as well not just people of colour
When they elected him the first time i tgought: hah, i bet they feel really stupid now because how incompetent he was. Nope, they doubled down and did it again.
I keep peeking at old.shittyplace.com/r/conservative and AFAICT they are still in full on "FUCK YEAH this is what we voted for!"
Half of it. The other half is on full r/LeopardsAteMyFace mode.
Almost like they are hiding.
Hopefully, they are thinking about their decision to vote for a guy who's coming to destroy their lives, too.
"they are thinking"
You give them too much credit.
Trump is such an utter fucking idiot. Nothing this useless fuck makes any sense. He’s neither a good businessman, leader, or president.
He knows exactly what he's doing here. He's punishing the blue state specifically.
They are just trying to destroy California.
Perhaps. Put on your tin foil hats.. Maybe it's to remove the lower socioeconomic class from California through drought, damage, and famine. Thereby making California a republican state because only the rich would be able to afford to rebuild. This means that California would vote red, pushing a large mass of electoral votes towards the other side.
What an idiot.
He's draining the reservoirs to starve California of water.
There is nothing stopping them from storming the Capitol, yknow?
It's OK. Trump is sending fire to Disney world Florida to fight their possible flooding!
I think he has no idea what he is doing, and he has dismantled all the guardrails. According to project 2025 the entire country needs to be razed and dismantled. So they can rebuild it as Musk/Trump's techno fascist state.That's why Musk wants access to social security numbers, health data and addresses. Musk now knows where you live, what colour your skin is, your gender, your income and debt, and all your weak points. The Nazis did this, it helps with identifying perceived enemies of the state, deportation of immigrants and jailing or execution of political rivals. I am so sorry for those of you in the states who didn't vote for this monster.
Side-note but this is exactly the reason why my country never asked for my ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation (and AFAIK is not legally allowed to do so). We learned from WWII that this is too great of a liability to entrust to future, potentially hostile governments. The Nazis poured over every written registry of Jewish population census to make a handy murder list, maybe we shouldn't facilitate their job next time?
(Side-side note: because of what I just said it is very surprising that Germany keeps a registry of everyone's religion for tax purposes, like maybe just find any other way to allocate subsidies?)
(Side³ note: I'm going to guess unfortunately my government does have "legally trans" people in a database due to the logistics of changing legal gender)
I think he has no idea what he is doing, and he has dismantled all the guardrails.
He knows exactly what he’s doing, or at least, someone else proposed this and explained it to him. What he is doing is: ruin Californias agriculture. This water would’ve been needed in summer, when the place runs dry.
So come August, chances are, California agriculture is withering on the vine with no way to water it. At which point Orange Führer will blame the state government, just like he did with the wildfires. CA will suffer politically and economically, which is the real goal here.
It's so fucked that someone willingly followed the order to release the water. I'm sure it won't be the last time
While also deporting the people who would harvest it.
2025 is right in that it’s existence and the ability of the current president to implement it tell us that we have erred in the amount of power we place in the president(s). Constitutionally he has the full power to do what he is doing, or at least he mostly does, the problem is that the constitution was written centuries before FDR expanded the power of the executive in a major and possibly anti constitutional way (as many of his contemporaries suggested).
The Founding Fathers left us a great system, impervious to tyranny and the sort of populism that Trump represents, and we ruined it.
Constitutionally he absolutely does not have the power to do what he's doing. Our system of checks and balances is failing because the Supreme Court and the Legislature have both all but fully ceded their authority to the Executive. Constitutionally, the job of the Executive is to implement the laws created by the Legislature and abide by rulings from the judiciary, not to do whatever they want with no basis in law or procedure.
The Founding Fathers left us a great system, impervious to tyranny and the sort of populism that Trump represents, and we ruined it.
It's not looking impervious in the slightest right now. We're living in the consequences of their actions, and one of the consequences being tyranny.
And it's always been tyrannical, regardless of the year you pick. This country has always been enslaving, discriminating, disenfranchisng, warring, killing innocents, or otherwise robbing workers/indiginous peoples. And always done the majority of this all at the same time.
"The Ford Pinto is the greatest car ever made. Yes, it blows up and breaks down and is uncomfortable but it's the best"
That's what you sound like.
How can a president in a democratic country order a dam opening, and this is left unchallenged by knowledgeable experts affected by the dam and stake holders? There seems a deep flaw in the system when it comes to the singular power of the US-president?
In his previous term there were people in all positions that would say no. He didn’t like that and fired people constantly, rotating through an inordinate amount of staff.
This time round they pre-planned everyone in every inch of federal government. All loyalists. No one will say no. They all fall in line and do as they’re told.
Trump and his handlers will strip mine and destroy the country from top to bottom completely unchallenged. And any challenge will simply be sidestepped or simply ignored.
The dams are entirely the responsibility of the Army Corps of Engineers, and the US President is the commander-in-chief.
The only ways for this to not happen is for the President to have their mind changed, or the President is removed from office, or, the order is refused enough (at cost of being fired/court-martialed) that nobody will carry them out.
The great powers of the US Presidency is meant to expedite government action. We are currently far from the scenario where Congress, by the will of the US voters, will remove the current President.
Good point with the army corps of Engineers, did not know they have this much influence on federal infrastructure in the states and are under the presidents command.
We have three branches in the federal government - executive, legislative, judicial. Legislative creates laws. Judicial basically decides when they apply/arbitrates their implementation. Executive branch is the actual meat of the entire thing, containing basically every other federal government institution, which is (in broad strokes) a giant hierarchy with the President at the top, with the ability to override every decision. It's because the people who designed this system had monarchism as their primary frame of reference and basically designed "monarchism with a couple restraints". People like to think it's democracy with checks and balances, but the democratic elements are worthless and the checks and balances have completely failed.
This is why I'm glad we don't directly elect our head of government in Australia.
People bitch "oh we've had 5 prime minister's in 5 years!". Better that than a president that can only be stopped by 2/3rds of the senate.
That and Australian cabinet members (who are the executives of the various departments), who can be removed by the prime minister, at least are somewhat covered by the fact the prime minister only has this power while a simple majority of the parliament allows it.
I'm not claiming we've got democracy figured out over here, and suffer from a lot of the same shit as the US because of capitalism and corruption.
But hell, US-style elected constitutional monarchy is wild.
And we're still under an actual monarchy lol
Easy: it didn't happen in a democratic country.
Why is trump even allowed to do this?
All it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing.
He's not supposed to be, he is just making it clear that he will fire anyone who says no to him.
He’s not, but no one has the power or balls to stop him
Or interest
Congress is in charge of stopping him. Republicans are in charge of Congress.
And the entire judicial branch so he will face no consequences either.
Presidents are supposed to have full power over the executive branch. The problem is that the executive branch now and when the constitution were written ware very different beasts, as the states had much much more autonomy before FDR.
This is literally terrorism.
Terrorism is when you do it. Politics is when the establishment does it.
What else could one expect from republicans?
The drought in summer 2025 will be Trumps Drought.
Alongside Trumps Inflation.
Right, but what real news will there be to report on it?
No it won't. They'll spin it as poor planning and mismanagement by liberal California, and their base will eat it up.
He will blame whatever reactionary dogwhistle that's currently plaguing the fascist MAGAts.
Don't need those migrant workers to pick crops if there aren't any crops.
Stable genius.
Will this reduce egg prices?
I imagine actively messing with farmers and their productivity will not help egg prices.
Don’t worry! He will find a way to blame Obama for it
Trump knows his audience and the media too well.
He claimed his actions would help wildfires. That's a win to his audience.
Experts said no and the Army Corps responded to pushback. That fuels his audience's prejudices into believing Trump's initial claim even more.
I have a feeling that the republicans are now weaponizing "incompetence", so they won't be called out as much.
is this just a fecking game to this big baby?
Yes. He just does things and flails in an attempt to get recognition and give faux news or whatever a reason to praise him
Fun thing being that this is what all of the signs in the Central Valley claimed that they wanted.
I have negative sympathy for anyone affected by this that voted for him.
Driving the 5 is always such a trip.
Ah, good old Calitucky.
Holodomor 2: Orange Crush
Stalinesque
THE WATER MUST FLOW!!! - National mad man.
I'm reminded of Caligula supposedly declaring war on the sea.
Every fucking day it's more "WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK, TRUMP?" in the news.
Your fields aren't flooding you fools! Read the Bible! God sent a (definitely not gay) rainbow and that doesn't happen anymore!
