He did a lot and still should have done more - still ends up as probably the most progressive president to hold the office. More of a criticism of this country.
All of you claiming "too little too late" don't think on the scale of history. Those things have never been said by that leader's voice, In that leader's office, broadcast on primetime TV to everyone, everywhere.
This is how progress works. Again, would have been better for him to say it from the start, but would have been fuel for the right (who doesn't even really need credible fuel for the people they talk to) even more obstructionist, bad faith ghouls.
All the above considered, we were fucked as soon as election result came in. Democracy is over, if there was s cashed they wouldn't try to literally draw and quarter Biden on the national mall in the next four years, this likely solidified it. Don't think him saying those words are said without personal risk. I think he failed to live up to the full mandate of his election, but this is an old mmm an whip knows he's about to die saying fuck it and pulling the pin on the grenade knowing he won't outrun the blast. In his reality, that's what this decision was.
I read Ken Klippenstein and he was heralding 2024 as the year of the gerontocracy starting to fail and be left behind and I'm like dude, we just elected a fucking 78 year old Hitler wannabe as president. The gerontocracy only gets worse.
There are 244m eligible voters in the United States.
77m voted for Trump. Idiots.
2.6m voted 3rd party. Idiots.
90m didn't vote. Idiots.
90+77+2.6 = 169.6
That means 170m of 244m eligible voters are braindead stupid. That's 69.7%. So we essentially have a 70% failure rate amongst eligible voters for maintaining our democracy.
Yeah, Americans, in general, are STUUUUUUUUUPID.
Yeah, we're in a declining nation and it's probably not going to get better anytime soon.
I actually consider this really positive on a few fronts.
Firstly, people are trying to learn. That's great.
Oligarchy is not a common word if your English level isn't great and that's true for lots of people. Even if you read books a decent amount it's not something I think you'd come across frequently.
Also, for folks who don't know what an oligarchy is, for them to find out they're possibly living in one may change their world view.
Honestly, I am one of those idiots. I had to look up oligarchy myself, although I looked it up because it was being thrown around a bit on Lemmy, not because Biden said it.
Man who is part of making the problem much worse tries to save his legacy by pointing the problem but claiming it is just starting to become a problem.
Yes, because the early USA did not resemble an modern oligarchy but rather a plutocracy which despite its problems still has greater room for a merit based system than a modern oligarchy provides. We are intentionally concentrating a tremendous amount of wealth in the hands of very few people.
He was taking orders from rich people too just different ones than the next guy lol now he thinks it's an issue but when they all pushed Bernie out it was fine.
This is click baity. People don't exclusively look up things they have no idea about. I'm constantly searching terms to reaffirm my understanding or to get a more precise definition of them. Oligarchy in particular doesn't have a measurable identification which of course people are going to want to dig a little into it. Hell there's a comment on here that made me dig into it since they're stretching it's definition way past it's meaning
Hell, I looked this up just now fully knowing what an oligarchy was because a) I was curious about the formal definition and b) I wanted to learn more about the history
Additionally, any mention of a word in a speech like that will result in an uptick in search usage – but that doesn’t let anyone quantify anything.
You’d see an uptick if a single person over baseline average looked it up from the speech, and everyone else understood it.
“X is trending in search because people don’t know it” is always a fallacy. See also: reporting on increased search for “who are the presidential candidates” a few days before the election.
This can be said about almost any article that claims people type a specific word into a search engine after someone says it. There were a lot of articles about people looking up jury nullification after Luigi was arrested. Or people looking up the word tariff after trump said it. It's just a quick way to find more information about the specific instance the word was used in. I didn't search the term tariff because I didn't know what it was, i searched it because I wanted to know what trump and his supporters thought it was.
I genuinely can't believe that there is any overlap at all with the maybe 500 people who actually listened to his speech or even read an article summarizing it and those who don't know what the meaning of "oligarchy" is.
How does anyone get engaged enough in the political process to watch a speech from Biden and not recall Bernie Sanders saying this every day of his life for the last 30 years?
I often get confused between oligarchy, kleptocracy and plutocracy, that’s why I would look it up.
I do understand how we can all be a little ignorant. We should do better.
I follow these things closely on my own time, as I assume is common for nearly everyone on lemmy.
But I saw coverage of Biden’s farewell address randomly at the gym. And also at a local restaurant. The media now is putting that word “oligarchy” in front of people's eyes, as a summary of his speech. I would guess most people googling it are checking if “the oligarchy” is a country in the middle east or something
Probably depends on your life style and what you do for work. I work in front of a computer so I browse on the side and see stuff, but take a teacher who is focused on kids all day doesn't have much of a chance to get caught up on stuff
Americans have been so fat and happy that they're literally sick. They need a few more LA fires and pandemics to wake up from the intellectual coma they're in.
communication requires participation by both the sender and the receiver in order to take place. are you saying that if everything you tell someone is dismissed as "fake news" and ignored, then it's your fault that nothing was communicated?
Huh, this actually seems legit. Compared to my ultra-scientific Google trends comparo it was half as popular of a search as Taylor Swift at its peak, which seems pretty big.
that Americans in general aren't following along on their own
that Biden could have influenced the discourse and been a force for good IF HE HAD BEEN COMMUNICATING LIKE THIS ALL ALONG. Unfortuntately they decided to 'show not tell' and let Trumpism fill the communication void with their lying bullshit for four years. Joe's biggest failure and one we shouldn't forgive him for.
Ugh, one of my right wing Farcebook "friends" recently made a simpleton comment about paying back student loans, and I couldn't resist saying "why stop at college? Defund public schools, if little Timmy can't afford it, send him to the mines" and of course he agreed, the irony was completely lost on him. No, his kids do not go to private school.
Eh, at least they're trying to learn more about the subject. I think the real concern is people that don't know what's going on and don't care to find out.
Same as politicians releasing biographies spilling the beans after they retire from 'public service', it's never anyone's responsibility or fault they are all taking graft, insider trading, selling natural reserves to foreign drilling companies, selling weapons to genocidal pricks, etc.
I mean obviously he knows how he's part of evil, now that he's at the end of his career or life I guess the personal benefits don't outweigh the guilt anymore.
If Texas is anything like Alberta/Saskatchewan up here (it is)... I'll take a stab at it.
75% of those people who you went to school with who were learning all of this right along with you, went home to parents who derided, blathered, and sometimes flat out beat those "librul" ideas out of them in the name of being a "god fearin' christian family".
Nothing they learned lasted past highschool when they married their highschool sweetheart, got a job at the mine and voted exactly the same way their parents and grandparents had for decades....
I don’t know that it’ll get rid of the problem entirely. I had an argument with one of my friends a few years ago who posted a picture of a gas pump and included “let’s go Brandon” in the caption. After explaining that the president had little to do with the high gas prices at the time and it was more that OPEC was producing an artificial shortage by keeping refineries closed, my friend informed me that he was a political science major in college, so he knows how gas prices work.
You're right, but focusing on Pelosi when Biden himself is an excellent example smacks of whataboutism.
It isn't a whataboutism (since she and Biden have very much been working together on behalf of the oligarchs), but it looks like one to the casual observer, which is probably why you're being bombarded with unfair downvotes in a Liberal (as opposed to Left) leaning community.
Oligarchy, like when Johann Rupert influences the South African markets and politics through his massive wealth and business empire... Or is it only oligarchy when Americans do it?