I remember when I had my clearance, we were told anything we worked on was classified for a minimum of like 75 years, unless it was declassified earlier. I remember because they told is if we were 18, we could potentially legally talk about our work at the age of 93, assuming the classification wasn't extended.
Anyway, part of that briefing was the outlining of consequences should we leak any classified information. We were told if the information we leaked resulted in the death of an intelligence officer anywhere in the world, we could and likely would be tried for treason. And the punishment for treason during a time of war (Global War on Terror, amiright) could be death.
So... He'll be charged with treason like any of us plebs would have been, right? Right?!
They were probably blustering about the treason thing.
Because "treason" was specifically abused by Britain, the US Constitution puts specific requirements on the crime of treason. In particular, there have to be two independent eyewitnesses to the treasonous act. Meanwhile, the Espionage Act has no such prosecutorial burden, and the penalties are just as severe...
It's been a while since I had it, so you may be right. Though, I do remember they were very specific it would only meet treason if it resulted in an intelligence officers death, but I don't remember under what Act or law they were interpreting from.
they will probably make an exception for him because he’s a Very Good Businessman. just think about what he may have gotten in exchange for the list of spies. perhaps some compliments from putin, maybe even a pat on the back.
He probably got to avoid having sex tapes released. Epstein was probably working with multiple intelligence agencies. The Russians probably just paid the most for those videos.
There are multiple trails of evidence to multiple treasons. Unfortunately the country is ridden with Repubs shielding him from justice. Repubs hate America since it is not yet a Christofascist dictatorship.
The treason here would be in the moral sense, not the legal sense. He was President at the time he handed over the lists, and the secrecy of these lists derive from the power of the executive in the first place. He could hand out whatever classified documents he wanted to anyone, and it's 100% legal. Even without the Supreme Court recently expanding the "official acts" coverage, this would be easily covered.
Congress could have impeached him for it, but we all know how that would go. Voters rejecting him is the only real remedy.
He did not have the right to keep those docs at Mar-a-lago, however.
The media should be giving this far more attention than they ever gave to Hillary's emails.
Makes me wonder how far gone our intelligence community is. These are some of their own and they've done nothing to slow the spread of authoritarian bullshit. Ten bucks says they want an autocracy because there is some power they think they can weild that they think will give them complete control.
I think its most likely that these orgs have factions competing for power and personal advantage,some people are going to think Trump is going to further their interests, others not so much. Some real ghouls probably recognize that Trump only wants power for himself which is a threat to their power.
I'm not an expert though, I just had a very interesting conversation with a civilian Air Force consultant, who said that his org wasn't very factional, but was very hierarchical. He was worried about very regressive figures coming to power because it affected the whole org, saying that the military had to stay cutting edge or we would face defeat, and hardcore conservative ideologues, or people like Trump who only care about their own wealth and status, tend to resist advancements and new methods.
The question is hasn't anyone in the CIA have the "need" to make Trump stop breathing? They don't need much to "remove from the equation" other presidents from other countries.
Its wild how a very rational anger and fear and concern about a Trump presidency becomes a very irrational support for many corrupt and downright evil organizations responsible for millions of deaths in the name of imperialism and profit.
i’m pretty sure it’s an open case that prosecutors are looking into.
If I had a dollar for every "looking into" related to the Trump presidency that resulted in absolutely no consequences for Trump ever, I'd have... all the dollars?
Man. What a traitor. Anyway, is anyone down to start America 2.0 somewhere else with me if he wins?? We'll call it "no billionaires or Republicans allowed world" or something and our president will be the cutest femboy judged by votes obviously
Non Trump supporters are aware of this and already aren't voting for him. It's his supporters that will ignore this because they don't care. They will vote for him regardless. Lots of them are voting against their own best interests.
There used to be a time when this kind of shit led to a swift execution.
Dude, that's absolutely not true. After the Civil Fucking War numerous rebel generals went right back home and ran for high office. Others got jobs as professors or retired to lavish estates that were never broken up. Still others founded the KKK. The Feds let it happen then.
Also, let's not forget Reagan feeding the Iranians intel during hostage negotiations. Or Bush evacuating Saudi officials after 9/11. Or any number of intelligence leaks from Congressman Nunes, Michael Flynn, Tom DeLay, the list goes on.
The only people we execute in this country are scapegoats, civil rights activists, and the poor. Actual traitors get to walk damned near every time.
You don't understand, he's not a traitor to everyone, he's standing up for 'Real America' against the real enemies, the libruls, the immigrants and the queers.
If you can't understand that then you must not be A Real American.
Not if it's because Russia is killing em. Trump deserves the worst punishment the army has ever dished out for committing the worst and most acts of treason in history. His crimes against humanity, the US and the west are uncountable, quite literally. Saying he committed treason is an insult to treason. The fact that he isn't detained or shot on sight demonstrates America's weakness and why the west must stop relying on it and stand on its own 2 feet.