If more people acted like Everett True, we'd live in a much nicer world. We've given assholes far too much free reign.
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We don't just give them free reign, for the most part the world promotes being selfish.
Damn near everything we ever hear takes no one else into account. Living wage is less and less common, billionaires have all the money in the world and zero accountability, healthcare (Mostly US specific) is an overpriced scam with no guardrails, food costs whatever the fuck the people who control it tell us it costs regardless of production costs, housing costs way too fucking much, fake news is more and more prevalent and conning more and more fools.
Its easy to see why people focus on no one but themselves anymore, its just the way of the world, toxicity is winning.
Being massive assholes to people you feel are being assholes. No contradictions there.
The paradox of tolerance shows us that, indeed, there is no contradiction.
I've been stuck on a train with a girl wearing headphones and singing along to Savage Garden. We all suffered.
She was even shutting her eyes tight and doing these ones...
If you've ever listened to just the vocals of a song without music, it was that, but also awfully off-key because she, of course, could not hear herself. Obnoxiously, I think she thought she was putting on a performance we were all impressed by. No one was impressed.
Ungh my manager at my last job did that shit all the time. Infuriating, because I wasn’t allowed to have headphones (inbound tech support), and it was really distracting when I was on a call.
And just like, so incredibly rude, who the fuck does that??
She's just trying to get discovered
That's exactly how it felt. Like her imagination had daydreamed the scene long enough, it was time to put it out to the universe and be approached by all those agents and producers crammed in the commuter carriage of the inner south line.
You just unlocked a repressed childhood memory from when I was 10 and we spent our lunchtimes playing MTG outside the school hall. Every day for months one year a group of girls decided to rehearse a dance they were choreographing to Animals by savage garden so we had to listen to it being constantly played, rewound, played again, stopped, repeated, ad nauseam. It made me hate savage garden for years after with an unrequited fury. I don't think I ever fully recovered.
That's horrible. Think of all the blood someone else has to clean. For that reason I suggest strangle.
"You haven't thought about the smell, you bitch!" vibes.
(from always sunny)
Automotive Keel-hauling is better, keeps the mess outside and feeds carnivorous wildlife.
I don't think urinating on people in public transport is a good idea. But otherwise, spot on.
When else are you supposed to urinate on people?
In the privacy of your home? Like a civilized person.
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What about furious masturbation? Because that happens whether it's a good idea or not.
People around where we live mount Bluetooth speakers to their bicycle and ride around on nature trails sharing their music with everyone because who the hell goes out in nature to experience nature?
I'm a cyclist and I've noticed an uptick in this shit lately. At least with a cyclist doing it they're past you pretty quickly, I suppose.
Yeah, as a cyclist, this pisses me off. I wear bone conduction headphones so I can listen to something while also hearing what's going on around me, and those idiots with loud music playing interfere with both.
There's a guy in my area that does that... He told me one day that it's to help give people and animals a heads-up that he's coming, which is helpful when overtaking people from behind, or around blind corners.
Sounded like an excuse at first, but it actually did help some of the time when I saw him after that. I have begrudgingly changed my mind about it.
He's still being selfish, Cyclists and mountain bikers yield to hikers, runners, and equestrians, Hikers and runners yield to equestrians. Downhill users yield to uphill users.
https://usacycling.org/article/trail-etiquette-for-mountain-bikers
This is why the removal of 3.5mm jacks is bullshit.
I can't just forcibly attach headphones to someone's phone and silence them anymore.
But you could shove the phone gently up their rectum.
Something to ponder.
Meanwhile, Google's like, "We're removing the ability to silently check your notifications using your Pixel Buds. You have to use the voice command now. No, we don't care that you primarily use them in public spaces. And we really don't care that our voice recognition has a 15% success rate."
Wow bummed for you on that
Someone raised the question of whether Google might have had a security concern. Since you can pick up
unpairedheadphones and listen to notifications from a locked phone. Though Apple does have a similar feature with AirPods: Announce Notifications.Edit: not “unpaired”
That's shitty but I fail to see how the course of action there would be to start using the voice commands instead of just, you know, silently pulling out the phone and checking the notifications with your eyes.
To be fair touching them also has about a 15% success rate to do what I intended it to do.
Seconded.
A lot of people blame this on people losing their social skills during COVID, but I remember people doing it when I was in high school in the mid-2010s.
There was a whole scene in Star Trek 4 with the same premise and I think that released in 86.
I was in the surgery waiting room for 12 hours while my mom had spinal surgery and some piece of shit Boomer kept watching political commentary videos on his phone and would very aggressively say to people "This isn't bothering you, is it?" And when we let him know it was, he'd just move a few seats away - not far enough to make any real difference. I wanted to beat the asshole to a bloody pulp, but I was equally as mad at the hospital who didn't put an end to it.
Same with fuckers in restaurants watching sports on their phones, or on speakerphone calls, or kids playing their fucking preschool games with their volume turned up. If we can't kill these motherfuckers then we should at least be allowed to smash their phones out of their hands.
I just tell people to please use headphones or turn their whatever to silent. I've only once had a guy react not so nicely to that.
i love how cory doctorow is consistently right about literally everything
i imagine he'd be first to warn you that is insane thinking
i can of course draw no conclusions about the future from the fact that he's been right about everything he's ever said thus far -- he could be wrong about something tomorrow and i'd look like a fool -- but he is a pretty righteous dude
He spends his entire life curating information sources. Selecting the absolute best and burning the rest with holy fire.
He's a living spam filter.
Basically you take what's left after the bullshit filter and you end up with a lot of his writing.
It's truly a gift.
Shooting them is a kindness. They could be reported to the RIAA for violating public performance copyright.
I think most people are opposed to torture on moral grounds.
I was once on a Greyhound bus where a guy was loudly talking on his phone, but not on speaker. The issue was he was just repeatedly saying:
"Listen....... Listen..... Listen.... Listen... Lemme tell you.... Listen... Listen .... Listen lemme.... Lemme tell you .. listen"
For half an hour.
Finally a hero yelled out: "Listen! Lemme tell you to shut the fuck up!"
He said "lemme call you back later" hung up and shrunk down on his seat as the whole bus clapped.
Was his name "Navi" and he looked like a small glowing light?
I'm so old I remember when you'd get thrown out of restaurant if you used a cellphone
Back in the day when cellphones could only take calls.
Abso-friggin-lutely. Shoot them twice to be sure.
It’s such an annoying, disrespectful thing to do in public. If you do it, you’re either a giant asshat or too dumb to keep around.
I had to listen to someone blast Tiktok and parts of some yelling bro-y podcast in the dentist's office.
I am already on edge whenever I go there, but this put me on a different level, as I was ridiculously overstimulated by the time I was in the chair. They almost did not continue because my blood pressure was alarmingly high.
What kind of dentist measures blood pressure?
There’s a few reasons why that can be relevant.
In the US, a lot of dentists use nitrous oxide for pain management and/or sedation. Taking a blood pressure is one of the safety precautions for pretty much any sort of sedation. In Europe we usually use local anaesthetic; it’s less invasive.
There are also certain complications that can arise from a high BP. It can result in more bleeding, which is not ideal especially if the patient is taking medication like blood thinners.
And on a general note: a lot of people don’t know they have a high blood pressure. It’s a good thing to check occasionally if you don’t. High BP can have a wide range of health concerns.
Someone else commented before me and had a very accurate answer!
In short, blood pressure can mess with anesthetic, making it not work or work less effectively. My dentist wants to make sure they are not torturing their patients with unneeded pain.
The problem with public transit isn't the transit, it's the public.
It is not even that, it is a tiny minority of the public. In fact, come to think of it, that is the problem with a lot of systems that would otherwise work great, a tiny minority of exploitative rich people, a tiny minority of spammers, a tiny minority of people who vandalize public spaces,...
We're all in that tiny minority at least sometimes. And that's why I avoid people. Not just for me, but also for them.
It's also sometimes transit, but that's mostly because the public does not fund and prioritize transit as they should.
I don't get why anyone who rides public transportation doesn't wear headphones themselves. Big obvious ones are best so people don't talk to you.
I do find that the more righteous I feel about someone's actions the more annoying it becomes to me. Despite how rude it is, and you're absolutely right about that, try to not give a fuck. It really helps to consider their obliviousness as a disorder. They're pathetic.
If nothing else, hopefully it'll keep you from actually pulling the trigger one day.
Not everyone can wear headphones all the time.
Me, for example. I can wear headphones for maybe 45 minutes before the pain gets too intense and I need to take a 10 minute break.
Huh, I've gotten these attacks periodically over the years, generally associated with drinking beer. I've always chalked it up to a salivary gland reaction/malfunction, but the description is exactly what I experience, like someone is driving a spike through my jaw behind the hinge.
It's pretty occasional, so it's not like I stopped drinking beer or anything insane like that. But good to know.
I almost never wear headphones in public. I prefer the situational awareness and being able to hear "This train is skipping union square" announcements.
I'm also a guy so I don't need the "don't talk to me" signal they provide.
I wear bone conduction headphones, so I get the best of both worlds, though background noise can get a little annoying.
Righteous anger is one of the main things keeping drag from pulling the trigger.
Can we have a special level for those who blast conspiracy theory videos? That was my last trip, and even with my headphones, I could still hear them droning on about some ignorant hot take divorced from any semblance of reality.
Let's not shoot them. I prefer public censure.
What if it's quiet piano music so my infant won't cry? (he is scared of buses)
I'll take piano music over a crying child any day of the week
Put headphones on the infant?
If it's just piano then it's basically Muzak. The bus itself may even be playing some imperceptibly which you can harmonize with.
I've tried headphones with babies before and it's hit or miss. One would howl instantly if you put them on him while another loved them.
Seems like you found the least intrusive way to keep your kid calm, which I think most people will appreciate.
I like to loudly say to my children: "Isn't it sad that some people can't afford headphones"
Just yesterday, I had to endure some mf with headphones loud enough to be heard by everyone around him on the bus
I mean, that's fucked up. I'm just glad it wasn't on full blast out of the device speaker, or heavens forbid, a Bluetooth speaker!
All of which are disgusting.
Seems reasonable.
This person should text-to-speech this tweet on public transport
We old people were raised well, dammit! We had wired earphones! Then Apple cocked up and tried to make expensive wireless earphones fashionable. And look where that lead us. That's right, kids not knowing what earphones even are. Fuck you technobros, you can't do anything right.
(Posted from my HMD Global Nokia 5.4, which does have a headphone jack, thank you very much) (Sorry if abrasive, mildly drunk)
This man is incapable of having a bad take.
City people have fucked priorities. I moved to a large city from a small rural town, and it's nothing but noise 24/7.
People yelling, construction happening, people watching TV with the window open, babies crying, dogs barking, birds calling, cars constantly rumbling by and hitting potholes so loudly it sounds like an explosion, acs running, radio from businesses, crowd noises, hundreds of thousands of little bits of metal and plastic clinging and clanging and pinging and popping, shoes on concrete clicking and clacking, airplanes, conversations going on, gunshots and concerts and car alarms and sirens and parties and car radios all the way up and... Even in the dead of night when it's all died down, there is this constant low hum coming from the city.
But specifically fuck the people who play music on their phone i guess.
Cities aren't neccesarily loud. Cars are loud. 90% of the background noise would dissappear without cars.
Not all noise is the same. White noise is easy to ignore but hearing half a conversation will stress out almost anyone.
That's just how the brain is. A lot of city noise doesn't register as important (and it isn't), but overhearing half a conversation or random snippets of YouTube is annoying on a pretty deep level.
I don't know how people even live there. Like do they view a flat, open the window, be greeted by a cacophony of engines and sirens and helicopters and go "OH MY GOD THIS IS AMAZING! SARAH COME OVER HERE AND LISTEN TO THIS! I CAN BARELY HEAR MYSELF THINK! I'LL GIVE YOU TWO THOUSAND POUNDS A MONTH FOR IT!"
Mostly because it's not like whatever nonsense you just imagined.
But you do get the ability to walk everywhere you need and incredible amounts of culture. Food, music, art, history, social gatherings.
I don't know how anyone could live in the countryside, having to own a car and still having no infrastructure near you would be a hard no from me.
We close the window.
Marchetti's constant People spent on average 1 hour traveling to and from work.
More merciful than I would be if I got to pick the punishment.
"thats a bit harsh'"
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"oh, ohhhh"
The typical offender here is the well-to-do Canadian kid blasting gangsta rap in the back of the bus as though he's hard. He also has that early Justin Bieber accent down to a science. Hailing from the Detroit area myself and having spent nearly a decade in this province, I don't think this kid has ever met a gangsta in his life.
It feels like this is getting worse every year. If you're going to do this, at least get a quality boombox with good music like Radio Raheem.
Aight, someone explain their point of view please. What level of volume severity have you commenters experienced? Someone listening to something has never bothered me, but it also has never been loud enough I can't have a conversation with someone. Most restaurants play music louder than I hear from a stranger's speakers. I don't get what is rude about it. Even the Everett True comic below, several of you are that on edge about a person whistling or humming to themself?
I was on a 7-hr bus trip starting from 2:00 am until 9:00 am. A fucking cumsock sitting in front of me kept browsing Indian tiktok loud as shit for more than 30 mins and no one was saying anything. I tried to sleep and just let him be, but I couldn't because it was loud as shit. I then tried to play similar bullshit on my phone loud as shit next to him to tip him off to how awful it is if someone else did that but still nothing and he was giggling watching tiktok on max volume. I had to tap him on the shoulder, and ask him "Do you have a headphone dude? a headphone? or shut that thing off. Thank you." then he said ok, and that was the end of story.
Still I could not believe the level of obviously for a grown man to do this to everyone around. I thought he was mentally challenged at first but no, he was a grownup sober functional cumsock in his 30s. I still wish the bus driver just shot him twice and everyone pissed on him but that's not how it works in real lifeThank you for sharing; yeah, that would be really irritating. Maybe I'm just lucky I've never experienced the same intensity.
I loved the film Do The Right Thing as a kid. It was one of my favorite Spike Lee joints.
Radio Raheem was an icon to me. The sound of hip hop in the street. It makes me sad how many people no longer want to interact with others in public.
I don't mind interacting with others in public, but I very much dislike inconsiderate people who decide to monopolize public spaces at the expense of others being able to enjoy them in their own way. I don't care about someone listening to the radio with their friends at a reasonable volume while they chill and talk. The reality is more often rival clusters of people with massive speakers, each turning their stuff higher because they can't hear their crappy music over the other people doing the same thing up and down the block. Me being unable to sleep at 4AM on a Wednesday because I can hear your terrible choice in Dembow and Rap that you choose to accompany your domino games and hookah sessions from my apartment on the seventh floor isn't us having an interaction, it's you being a nuisance.
I hear you. I agree with you, it's just hard for me to condemn the loud music and domino games because, from my perspective its people practicing their culture.
I understand that it's inconsiderate and a nuisance to most. I just have really good memories of that kind of culture at that volume. I'm bias.
I can sympathize with both sides. On one hand it’s great to have a sense of community in public and it can really add to everyone’s life. But on the other hand having just had a migraine in public and regularly having conversations and thoughts in public I very much understand the desire not to.
I think it comes down to understanding the space you’re taking up with your sound. On public transit, people are stuck with you, so try to be minimally disruptive. On trails and such, we’re all here for nature, let some people enjoy its serenity. On the street, sure enjoy sharing your music but have a decent speaker for it.
On the street you can walk away if you're not into it. Being a captive audience makes it suck
It's incredibly rare that I've had positive interactions with random people. Sure there's a "thanks" for opening the door or whatever but I wouldn't count that. I mean prolonged engagement though even short conversations can turn on fight or flight. Especially at night, or at a liquor store gas station. "Hey brother..." "Yeah nope"
Have you ever heard of autism?
thats racist.
"Explain the logic underlying that conclusion, please."
-Monty Python's The Cheese Shop
I get what he means by its annoying, but really what the fuck is with that wording "you should be shot" when we know you're just talking about being annoyed?? It says so much about a kind of person when they're comfortable saying something this vile. Using extreme violence as a point of emphasis over an every day annoyance. Like holy fuck there's so little people who can say these kind of things publicly without extreme repercussions, it's so extremely privileged.
Yea, sometimes when I'm out in public, I like to listen to music on speakers. Sorry if it's a mild inconvenience you have to HEAR something as we pass by each other. God forbid, yall need to lighten up.
I get being aggravated about people blasting music on a bose speaker in a bus or train (I used public transit in L.A. for years). But just enjoying my day sitting somewhere or going on a walk I might put it on a speaker, eat my ass if that annoys you.
Why not use headphones/IEMs like a normal person? You'll get far superior sound quality without annoying others.
And people will be less likely to annoy you. It's a win-win.
I will not mourn when someone harms you for your anti social actions.
Literally eat my ass you coddled turd.
eat my ass if that annoys you
Everyone disliked that.
At least you acknowledge you're being a dickhead, but don't get so buttmad that it upsets people 😂
So I'm curious; why no headphones? When I listen to music from a speaker in open space, half of the sound is basically gone. My headphones are ~10x (not exaggerating) better than anything played at 'mild inconvenience' levels in public. I can also play it at an ear-safe volume because of ANC. Yes, they can start to hurt due to the arms on my glasses but that's after 5-7 hours in a day.
