Colorado teen shot in the face by town councilman after going to home to ask permission to take homecoming photos

They don't want to deescalate. They already had a big celebration planned in their head for murdering someone before they even do the act. They want to kill people so they can look like some hero. These people are sick and as far as I'm concerned their punishment should equal their crime.

These shitlarpers are a bunch of weak babies that don't have any idea how to be the big man they think they are.

Current report is the gun accidentally went off. Dude deserves the books thrown at him though. Kids where already off his property and honestly where not a threat in the first place. This is like that one story where the dude shot at a car turning around in his driveway.

As someone who owns multiple guns both for sport and hunting these are the people that should not ever own one!!!

According to an arrest affidavit obtained by the station, one of the teens reported hearing Metz say "Oh s---, my gun just went off" after the shooting.

The kids did trespass by hopping a fence, I'm guessing his defense is going to be he was just trying to hold them there for police but accidentally discharged his weapon into a kids face. The fuckwit is really lucky the kid lived.

I can't understand the idiotic appeal of inserting yourself into these situations when the police are already on the way and there's no danger to yourself to just waiting and letting them handle it.

allegedly blocked the teen's car from leaving . . .

Sounds like unlawful imprisonment to me. I'm sure he will be prosecuted for that (NOT).

When i was young, the US were famous for how friendly the people were and that you could just knock on any door and they'd help you. The "conservatives" have really done a number on you guys.

It seems like that's more of a way for him to avoid responsibility for it than anything else.

South Park called it in its first fucking season.

Nothing they say is in good faith, ever. It's all about exploiting the situation.

Also, Metz was transported to headquarters where he was processed and booked into jail. He was later released after posting $5,000 bond.

Thank you

Yea… let me tell you about how shocked I was to read that the shooter was driving a truck.

Not a lawyer. By the letter of the law, yes.

They had to jump the fence - presumably the gate was secured - in order to get to the house. Further, they walked around the property looking for the owner. This looks to anyone without more knowledge, very much like trespassing.

Just my 2 cents, I'm not trying to defend or accuse anyone.

I guarantee there was a lack of trigger discipline at play

"Guns don't kill people." But only because this boy survived.

Generally they don't. There are a few certain models, like the Sig P320, that have some kind of deficiency where it can go off if bumped in just the right way. It's very, very rare, but it still happens much more often than others (due to it being a design defect and not a manufacturing defect, I believe).

I’m betting he fired without even looking then realized what he had done.

Hard to say. The kid was driving an Audi S4 so they likely have money.

As someone who grew up near those wild west towns and have a lot of roots out here, yeah it's a myth, most people I knew growing up didn't even hunt, and most hunters I knew owned two guns tops and it WASN'T their personality, inviting you over to eat venison was their personality.

They also were in their car outside the gate to the property. TECHNICALLY that gate may be inside the property line, but that's still totally egregious.

This isn't even stand your ground or castle doctrine or anything. The homeowner wasn't even home and they were outside the front gate when shot. That's the craziest part to me, absolutely no one was in danger until the dude showed up.

By the same government encouraging their armament. "Give them guns" and also "they're coming for YOU so be afraid!"

Is it? I heard the opposite. A lot of people live through suicide maimed because the bullet ricocheted off their skull. Supposedly, there are better ways to off yourself that I won’t specify here

This has absolutely nothing to do with "Stand Your Ground". SYG only applies when you or someone else are in real and imminent danger of serious bodily harm or death, neither of which were true in this case. That's why the guy was arrested and has been charged with a number of serious offenses. He's going to end up in prison.

Since you aren't from the United States I should also tell you that SYG isn't a National thing, its only legal in the States in that have passed laws allowing it.

I keep wondering if a legal framework like the US where you weren’t legally punished by attacking a thief in your house wouldn’t be fairer but then there’s news like this.

That's called "Castle Doctrine" and like SYG it isn't National. It only exists in the States that have passed a law to allow it.

It CAN work but there's at least a few States that have Castle Doctrine and a Duty to Retreat so you end up having to flee a home invader until or unless you have no other choice.

You are acting as if it were actually complicated. Requiring no duty to retreat makes perfect sense in your own home. The law most sane places says you have to be in a situation where a reasonable person would be in fear for life or bodily injury.

Note "reasonable person" is a common legal standard. A reasonable person doesn't think someone outside is automatically a threat. People who shiit then ask questions go to jail.

Why should someone who is already breaking the law also enjoy the power of legal coercion to force you from a place you had the legal right to be, though?

“Well, we don’t want the situation to escalate. Someone could get hurt.” Why should the law protect only the welfare of criminals? Of the person actively breaking the law?

The issue with “Stand your Ground” laws is that the alternative is nonsensical if your view expands to include the rights and welfare of people who act consistent with the law.

we really need to at the very least make training a requirement, even just a written exam would help…

Cue gun nuts, "...shall not be infringed!"

You can’t train out the stupid.

I’ve taken regular gun safety classes. They’re less stringent than a driver’s ed class. It’s like taking the driver safety class after you’ve gotten a ticket. Yeah, yeah…let’s just get through this shit so I can get back to whatever.

I live in a state with an online training requirement and it's a joke. The employees at sporting goods stores actually encouraged me to quickly click through to the end and print the results.

As someone who supports firearm ownership, I also believe it should require a background check, a thorough psychological evaluation, and equally thorough, in-person safety training and testing, all repeated periodically in order to maintain ownership.

All he had to go off was a vehicle with 2 teenagers inside and the call from his girlfriend that there were trespassers on the property. Depending on what exactly was said on the call and what happened between him blocking the vehicle in and the shot, he might just have shit trigger discipline and his girlfriend is the one who is super scared of anyone she sees on their security cameras. He is still an idiot for trying to block their vehicle in any case though.

Have you seen the kind of people who much of the US likes to elect?

guns certainly do "just go off"

That's why you secure them, unload them, store them safely.

No

I was taught when I first started shooting guns when I was 5 that you only point a gun at something that's alive when you don't want it to be alive anymore.

It had to be raised and pointed to have a bullet go through the windshield and hit someone in the face. Don't make excuses for the guy