'Trump is desperate': Ex-GOP aide thinks a Vance-RFK swap is a real possibility
'Trump is desperate': Ex-GOP aide thinks a Vance-RFK swap is a real possibility
Former President Donald Trump has raised speculation he could try to swap out Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH), plagued as he is by controversy for his comments about childless women, for conspiracy theorist and former independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as his running mate — even though ...
So.... they swap out the couchfucking weirdo for the brain-worm weirdo.
this is gonna go so well!
Slurp that fetid whale juice!
All hail the hypno-choad.
As long as we don't discuss donnie, it might be a sort of valid strategy.
Or so I start to think.
Lol, at least with Vance there's potential deniability concerning his weirdness. It's proven that RFK fucking is obsessed with dead animals.
And protest too much?
Trump dies on the second day in office, then the newly minted President Kennedy butchers a bald eagle on the Oval Office desk, cooks it in an air fryer perched on the railing of the window, then tosses it in buffalo sauce and eats it before blowing the brain worms to kingdom come with an original flintlock from the time of Thomas Jefferson that was sitting on one of the shelves.
I'm not even sure I oppose this timeline
Would yield president Hakeem Jeffries. I'm ok with that
I would watch that pay per view.
this comment is extra special.
Better than the shit Vance has planned.
(I have no idea what rfk has planned.)
RFK vs Walz would be a truly insane debate.
This made me laugh out loud
Oh please do.
I will fucking bet you he does it and the numbers drop after it happens. In fact I have this bet already, but I'll make it again.
Do you think he’d swap back, or find some new guy?
Idk, I think I’d see trump numbers up after that. RFK jr is going appeal to the fringe libertarian…especially considering the orange turd’s health and age
Wasn't Vance officially chosen by the delegates at the RNC? Can Trump actually pick someone else now? What would the party have to do to change their nomination after the convention-hold an emergency meeting and revote?
At this point there's no way to do it legally. Ballots are already being printed. But legality's not an issue for Trump and his personal fan club.
I think Vance could step down, then Trump would have no running mate, I think? And a VP would be appointed by Congress if he wins? Idk.
Technically,
The president and vice president are chosen by the electoral college in separate votes.
Though, for some time, it's always been the winning candidate's selected running mate... there is no requirement there. The electors could pick Mittens the back flipping poodle for VP if they wanted.
It would be peak Trump to announce a VP change without checking if it was actually possible 🍿🍿
Trump can do any goddamn thing he wants. SCOTUS will step in to make sure RFK is on the ballots if needed.
Democrats: “We’re suing to keep Vance on the ballot”
SCOTUS: “Actually, Trump can do whatever he wants, plus we’re giving him 100 free electoral votes because fuck you.”
The RNC can just change its rules.
Or simply not follow them like history has shown
Agree that they would happily bend any rules for trump, but the RNC already happened and they chose Vance as the VP candidate. How does the Republican Party change their rules now? They would need to have some sort of party vote I think. Emergency RNC 2.0?
Like they'd get in trump's way?
No, I'm sure they'll try to support whatever he says. But, officially the party nominates the VP candidate which they've already done. When Trump tells them to change it, I don't know what mechanism exists to actually do that. The campaign on its own cannot change the ticket.
It’s all winners in that party, I tell ya, lol
The couch fucking weirdo is tanking the numbers! Quick! Go find the guy with the brain worm!
Does the GOP have problems finding normal people to run?
Yeah, I guess they would.
You know, it's funny; when you look at someone through rose-colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags. - Bojack Horseman
Or, more accurately: When you surround yourself with weirdos, all the weirdos start to look normal.
No, normal people just don't poll well with the GOP.
They are all so weird.
They didn't actually. They had problems getting them through primaries.
Ex brain worm, they broke up
The brain eating worm starved to death.
This shit just writes itself.
Damn, that worm has better judgement than Cheryl Hines.
Turns out... The worm was doing all the thinking
THE WEIRDO EXCHANGE PROGRAM
ACT NOW
😭😭😭
You can’t switch candidates like that! That’s a coup!
At least it is according to this weird douchebag who told me he was totally trustworthy
The thing is they wouldn't have a problem with you calling it that, because the whole purpose was to degrade what an actual coup is before they do one
Yeah no disagreement here. I think a lot of the “every accusation is a confession” thing comes from trying to condition voters to think less of the horrible headlines that inevitably surface.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha.
This timeline is wild.
That’s my bet as of this last weekend, tbh.
Trump’s kinda obviously having serious buyers remorse over Vance and how he’s basically fucking kryptonite to the vast majority of women. And I’m sure he thinks including the Kennedy name on his ticket will give him a big boost. And now that he’s pulling both RFK and Tulsi closer in to the campaign, I’m really thinking it’s only a matter of time.
Dementia Don and Brain Worm Bob. Name a more iconic duo.
That is a good one! Made me laugh :D
Ra. The Kennedy name. No one has given a shit about the Kennedys in so long. Hell, I forgot they existed until that group of smooth-brained dipshits started wearing red hats and quoting The Enquirer and Weekly World News stories as gospel and insisting the one that sadly died in plane crash 25 years ago was raising from the dead.
Oh, I know. All I’m saying is that I believe that’s his “logic”, such as it is.
Bill Burr had a bit about Schwarzenegger marrying a Kennedy, basically marrying into royalty. The whole thing that the guy immigrated, became a movie star, got rich, married into royalty, became governor, how the fuck did that happen.
He might eat back a few sub percentage points of his geriatric base.
You know Donald would cream himself if he could make signs that said Trump and Kennedy.
You cAnT jUsT CHanGe CanDiDAtes
No one knows anything about RFK
Who voted for him
Etc etc
Griffin hails from the centrist wing of the GOP. Every day, she said, Trump gives people like her "more and more permission to not vote for Republicans" as he surrounds himself with people like RFK Jr., Tulsi Gabbard and J.D. Vance, who on the fundamentals, "we just don't agree on, whether it's support for Ukraine, not having tariffs on imports, wanting to pass border security deals."
"So I think he's really doubling down to what is a minority within a minority of the GOP," Griffin added.
I really hope this is true.
more and more permission to not vote for Republicans
Someone needs to tell these women that they don't need permission from men anymore in order to vote the way they want.
As in 2016, he's not appealing to the centrists. He's letting the Dems do that. Dems go center, he picks up the anti-war and anti-government side of the Dems looking for a molotov cocktail to throw at the military industrial complex. Gabbard and RFK are an attempt to ruse enough of the left that is fed up with big government and big military. Trump in 2016 won because he was a molotov cocktail while Hillary took the center. In 2020, the primaries presented a progressive alternative that excited the base. 2024, the Dems have decided to revive Hilary's strategy of camping the center, folding to the military industrial complex, and disenfranchising their base; likewise Trump is playing the anti-establishment dove. Trump won in 2016 like that. Maybe fewer people will be tricked this time after seeing what happened last time he was in office? Or that's just wishful thinking.
It doesn't matter if he scares off the center. In spite of the strong start, I see Kamala lining up to lose this election by copying Hilary's strategy of collecting the center and establishment. It gives me the jitters. Dems need to run on a progressive path forward, not joyful ignorance while they stoke the fires of war. They need a platform that excites enough voters for downballot races. They need to stand up to the problems in our systems of governing that Trump is offering to burn down which might accelerate some sort of change before we die of ecosystem collapse. Clock is ticking, and the voters may decide we need a kick in the ass if the Dems decide to cozy up to the military like in 1968.
In general I'm in full agreement, but the fact that Biden stepped aside and they picked Walz as the VP gives me the perception that the Democratic Party is at least acknowledging the existence of the left. They absolutely need to triple or even quadruple down on progressive policies while Harris is in office though*, or we'll be in the exact same position in four years, except with a competent speaker for the GOP instead of the Toupee.
*And not just in the last few months before the next election.
While I agree with you, it shouldn't be forgotten that Hilary still had the popular vote. I think the Dem.s will still win due to Harris not being as hated as Hilary, likely better campaigning than Hilary, Trump being an abysmally bad candidate (just in terms of general political competency, regardless of his beliefs/positions; I think them winning will continue people not taking that point seriously enough), and Harris actually being able to bring out black (and, I would wager, Indian) voters.
I don't think that black people were necessarily excited about Hilary but they absolutely are about Harris. I think they can likely win like this; it won't be a landslide but it'll be O. K.
I agree with what you think they ought to be doing (I want to push the Overton window leftward and going back to the center after it's been pushed so much leftward over the last 8 years is both frustrating and bad policy) but I think Kamala has a bunch more shoring up than Hilary did. I also think it's going to convince Dem.s that this is the way to win; if Kamala continues to govern from the center rather than like her voting record in the Senate, I think we get the same rush to neoliberalism Clinton ushered in. But I'm hoping otherwise.
I don’t know why you’re being down voted this is a legit concern
Couchfucker or chainsaw-whale-head guy . . . .
Spoilt for choice
Have there ever been weirder candidates? Fucking a couch is the least weird thing compared to chainsawing a whale's head or abandoning a dead bear cub in Central Park, and the former is the only one of those probably not true (although Vance hasn't denied it).
Or the brainworms from all the other roadkill he's had a decades-long habit of collecting.
JD, you’re fired!
It's a COUP and ILLEGAL for DEMOCRATS to Swap their Candidate before they even have one but it's TOTALLY FAIR AND LEGAL for REPUBLICANS to do that AFTER they've been Decided Voted on and Confirmed!
It's projection, it always is.
Trump choosing his VP:
Give me the hillbilly.
I said the real hillbilly.
Perfection.
Honestly thought he was going to pick himself as running mate. It's the only person he'd never blame for losing.
You'd be wrong. Nothing is ever his fault. It's impossible to him.
Then who would he blame when he loses? He needs someone to be the fall guy.
Ever heard of Nancy Pelosi?
No better way to signal stability and confidence than shuffling your deck so close to the big game.
[JD is replaced with Kennedy jr and they meet]
"And how long have you been the VP candidate?"
"It's actually started a while ago when I was walking down the-"
"Okay good." [Turns to rotting bear corpse]
"And how long have you been here?"
[Bear corpse silence]
[Kennedy collapses, a large green caterpillar emerges from his nose]
[JD, to worm] "And how long have you been here?
[Also to worm] "I'm JD Vance, and until recently I was running for Vice President."
[worm] "Okay."
So swap out the couch fucker for the brain worms guy? LOLOLOL.
RFK seems like the kinda guy who'd have fucked a couch in a drug-addled stupor once or twice
so the GOP wants to switch creepy couch-fucker with creepy brain-worm bear carcass dumper... and that is an improvement?!
Don't forget decapitating a dead whale
And the anti vaxer who lies to the media about being an anti vaxer, buy proclaims it to conservative media.
Yeah this feels like a "bad to worse" type of decision
So right in line with literally every decision Trump has ever made.
Not even hyperbole. I challenge anyone to tell me one time in his political career where he didn't select the absolutely worst option available.
vance presidency would have made this guys career ten years ago. instance snl multiappearances. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyler_Labine
Ahh, Sock. They ruined an already failing show by going all-in on season 2 Sockmania. Not that it was his fault.
Make them fight over it, arm RFK with a sofa piece and arm Vance with a piece of some dead animal
I'm not sure I understand what is happening to the united states right now.
I remember the butthurt about portraying Nazis as the bad guys in video games. I think that's the moment when I realized just how fucked up certain people are in this country. Because, yes, the Nazis are the bad guys.
In 2019 I came across someone online who was mad about Wolfenstein because it was anti trump. I had to tell them that the series had been running since the 90s and that the new ones are just fun action games.
There may be some good messaging in there for sure but they're not profoundly deep antifascist critiques of Trump's USA. They're just fun shooter games where the Nazi's are the bad guys
Are we the baddies?
Why didn't he go with DeSantis?
Trump wants a pretty nonentity.
Pence looked like a 1960s TV version of a Vice President. Vance looked like someone the rural MAGoos would like.
DeSantis might actually [accidentally] tell Trump the truth...
He wants loyalty, and one that will do what Pence didn't do.
he did. JD Vance is one of those ironic punishments Olympians gave to people that pissed them off. someone with as much ability to come off as human, let alone normal, as desantis, if not less.
Since Vance is officially the VP running mate and ballots are probably going to be printed soon, could he actually get swapped this late?
Don't think so legally, but the law has never stopped Dipshit Don from doing idiotic and horrible things before. 🤣
I can see draft dodger Don just saying “I have two VP picks now. How it is!” The RNC would roll with it because they are cowards, and somehow SCOTUS would also be cool with it.
“Doesn’t say he can’t pick two people.” - Uncle Thomas, if he actually knew how to talk.
Epstein buddies teaming up?
Can't you NOT swap out VPs?
Vance is a couch fucker btw
The next candidate for Trump VP should be someone who is proven not to have fucked any couches
I know, I know, everyone is saying it. The best people. The brightest people. Someone who hasn’t fucked a couch is going to be hard to find. People tell me they’ve been looking, the best people. They haven’t found anyone. But I am not a weirdo, no matter what they say, but it’s not that many people who are even saying it, but if you look at it the lying media and sleepy joe Biden, you know, there’s a reason he hasn’t appeared in any interviews lately……
In a really weird way this might actually be helpful to the campaign. When RFK dropped out of the race, both Kamala and Trump saw a boost in the polls, meaning there are people that supported RFK that were more Democratic leaning than Republican leaning, though it should be noted Trump went up only a few points more than Kamala did.
JD Vance has been the most unpopular VP pick in modern American history. While RFK is of course weird, I personally wouldn't be surprised if he's seen in a more favourable light than Vance is. The swap could potentially win some of RFK's supporters who moved their support to Kamala over to Trump and the Republicans, and could give the opportunity for "unity" messaging considering Trump would be bringing in a former opponent as well as the Democratic association with the Kennedy name.
Will say though, not sure how effective this would be compared to the Trump campaign simply swapping Vance with someone else that was on the original running for VP pick. Still shocked knowing that Burgum was going to be picked before Trump was swayed to choose Vance, and that Tim Scott wasn't his go-to considering Scott's potential for Republicans playing identity politics and his talent in campaign fundraising.
Game changing this late in the game, no matter what.
I haven't watched either one speak out loud, and do not wish to (30-seconds of audio crushed my smoky fantasies regarding Lauren Boebert), but RFK seems more sane to me.
Bring on the bear and whale jokes, c'mon. But remember when Bush seemed like a guy you could enjoy a beer with? Yeah, that kinda vibe. In any case, nothing will get me to vote R again in this lifetime.
That would be fucking hilarious.
He should do it.
Do it, give us mr brain worms to mock!
I heard he fucks couches too.
This would be chaos, but there's no way it happens. Trump is too beholden to dark money to try it.
Money will be spent by the time he probably tries to do it. There's a bunch of legal hurdles that should stop it from happening, but look at the shit this idiot does.
Think of all the extra money they will make selling the new merch.
Go from half a brain to brainless. Oughta make a world of difference
Low Energy
I suspect Trump will attempt to swap his vicepresident candidate, but with Tucker Carlson. His base has been getting brainwashed by Tucker for decades, and Tucker Carlson has definitely been getting propped up for something like this. RFK Jr and Vance are red herrings in comparison.
That they would wait to do so until technically they have to be denied is just another way to attempt to stoke a flame they desperately need, because they know that the popular vote isn't with them. The candidate must be an extra spicy
insurrectionistrevolutionary, and Tucker fits that role far better.So you're questioning Trump's judgement?
Never interrupt your opponent when they are making a mistake.
Now if they actually dumped Trump they might have something there, but there's just no way in hell he will.
Pfft. No one votes for number 2.
I'm genuinely unsure if RFK is any more likeable or relatable than Vance. He's funnier at least, but I don't think Trump needs another laughing stock rn...
Omg, pleeeeeease! That’s all I want!
No one roots for the loser anymore
Just met my kid's teacher! She is trans and I would vote her for president. Also on the radio there was an ad about legal help for people in their 90s with care. Just pay the legal fee and all is good. But 🤔, people older than retirement age aren't that abundant. So it's a mystery how we ended up with two of the oldest candidates ever.
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