It's not about LOSING the young vote. Not voting is the default position for young people... Always has been (although each generation has gotten better about this)... The question is "how can I keep supporting genocide and still get young people to actually show up and vote?" And of course the answer is bully them relentlessly and never give them anything they ask for /s
I'm voting for Biden because I'm not dumb enough to think forfeiting my vote will help end the genocide, but if goldfish man wins and we become fascist, I will blame Joe Biden for throwing away our democracy in support of Israel.
Same. The Republicans have been insulting anyone who doesn't stand with them on everything. They claim to be able to criticize Biden, but holy shit am I tired of being insulted for not agreeing with him on genocide. They just continue to push everyone away. So while I am also voting, a part of me doesn't blame those who are done and not bothering. They want everyone sit down, shut up, never expect to get anything we want, but then to also vote? Kind of fucked.
I am a career memesmith, just like my father, and his father before him. In fact, I still have one of grandpappys hand-carved memes from when he was a young shitposter. Back in thise days, you used to have to place your memes in store front windows if you wanted anyone to see them.
If they got somebody clever, it could help mitigate damage (e.g. pointing out Trump's own worse record, the fact that the GoP basically plans to erase democracy if they win, how some things people wanted are constantly being blocked by the GoP)
Sure as hell won't help regain lost votes, though
To do that, Biden needs to stop supporting the genocide, or if unable to, make it clear exactly why he is unable to
I mean it worked in 2020. Biden started the campaign with effectively a Republican slate of policy positions. Until the ratfucking on Sunday before super Tuesday, Bernie was running away with it.
To get Bernie's voters, Biden basically did a lift and shift of Bernie's entire policy platform. This got him the support of Bernie's massive grassroots movement, and is what won the election (and why we've seen such a progressive slate of domestic policies from Biden). At that time, Biden learned from the lesson that Hillary didn't: You can't shame voters into supporting you; you have to prioritize their issues.
Biden can do the same now. Its actually pretty easy to do so. He can come out strongly and say something like "While we still support our ally Israel, this genocide is wrong, and the extermination of a people is never an acceptable answer. Never again means never again, for any community"
And like you said, he can also just explain exactly why he is unable to do certain things. He can can just send some very strong signals.
Biden won in 2020 because Trump absolutely botched the national pandemic response. Now Biden is dealing with a recession on all but name, meteoric inflation, a war in Europe, and a genocide in Gaza. He obviously can't do much for the economy, but he has the deck stacked against him and is going to need the youth and muslim votes if he hopes to win in November. All he has really done for young voters is a few waves of student loan forgiveness. Nothing he does will win over "moderate" Republicans, so he needs to rally support from young voters.
The problem with Biden saying he can't do things is that Trump will just come out the next day and say, "this problem would be solved on day one of my presidency."
Would it be true? Absolutely not. Would it matter? Absolutely not.
Biden isn't going to win by converting Trump voters. Anybody who still thinks Trump is the best choice for America is not going to change their mind at this point. They are lost causes.
Biden is going to win by breaking apathy and making people realize that he is incredibly limited (by the Republican-led House) on what he can do in Israel. The genocide is popular with both leading parties. It sucks. Get over it.
If you want an honest answer, it's because for every 1 of the "stop the genocide" people, there's 2 people who support Israel's campaign to bomb Palestine. Mainly because Hamas is often seen as representing the Palestinian people and have done everything in their power to destroy sympathy for Palestinians, and secondarily because US-based advocates for a free Palestine have used methods that seem primarily designed to piss people off like setting up camps in public spaces and accusing random passers-by of partaking in genocide.
Source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-israel-gaza-poll-cbs-news/ Even after a shift away from Israel, only 37% think the US should even encourage Israel to stop the campaign. To me military aid to Israel makes exactly zero sense. But I also live in reality, and cutting off aid entirely would be political suicide until advocates for it do a better job of actually being convincing.
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Meh, seems to be working for the Trump trolls. Lemmy went from being anti Trump to pro Trump practically overnight and around the time the tankie memes started spamming in. Maybe the opposition should try this strategy.
Young people: "Please provide an alternative to Democrats who are moving too slowly to help minorities and the poor"
Trump campaign: "We need plans for a christofascist oligarchy literally run by a billionaire and his spoiled kids"
Is the thinking that Trump will somehow be better? Like holy shit how short sighted are these people? Do they not remember anything from when he was president?
Is the thinking behind this comment that Trump being worse excuses Biden of his failures? He is losing young people by funding a genocide. Not all people are pragmatic, unfortunately.
So either we complain about people not being pragmatic and voting for someone they have a legitimate issue with, OOOORRRR we could be mad at the president of the United States breaking the law and alienating would be voters by giving weapons to a state that has been committing war crimes for over 7 months.
Of course we can do both but let's not pretend the major problem is "voters with morals" rather than "president aiding a genocide"
They remember, and they want it back. They're fascists who are too cowardly to claim the label - which is impressive, as fascists are generally pretty cowardly to begin with.
This line of thinking implies there are only two possible positions: "Uncritical support for Biden" and "I'm going to criticize genocide and I also want to let fascists rule, for some reason". Have you thought that perhaps you're missing a lot of nuance about what people think?
The campaign is not the government. The meme manager will have literally 0 influence on foreign policy.
Changes to foreign policy are more likely to occur if you direct all this energy to the 30%+ of Americans that fully support an unfettered Israeli military, rather than disparage the only US president in recent history to openly criticize Israel during wartime. In the context of US-Israel relations, Biden is waaaay outside the norm in pushing back against Israeli interests.