A horde of trailer-park visigoths can sack the Capitol and Republicans say "what's the big deal?" But let one guy show up in casual clothes and they lose their goddamn minds.
“If those jagoffs in the House stop trying to shut our government down, and fully support Ukraine, then I will save democracy by wearing a suit on the Senate floor next week.”
If my opponents will stop focusing on issues that are very important to their constituents, then I will stop doing this thing that slightly annoys their constituents for a week.
Do they think their base gives a shit about dress codes? Obviously not! But the fancy lads can't stand the thought of people not dressing correctly lol
Their base will get offended over anything & everything so long as it's not one of their own being criticized. They are forever hypocrites, and generally dumber than a box of rocks.
They don’t give a shit about dress code. They give a shit about having an excuse to be angry about something.
I guarantee if some GOPer showed up in a stained wifebeater with camo shorts and crocs, they would be celebrated as ‘just like us’ and ‘a hero of the people.’
Republicans should have been the ones to do this first, their base would have loved it and it would have pissed Democrats off because it violates the precious norms. But instead they missed their chance and now Democrats are eating their lunch.
Their base does give a fuck though. Anything they can make into us vs them. Our team vs their team. And now it’s our team wears suits and theirs doesn’t! So fuck anyone without a suit because they are on the opposite team!
Is anyone here in a client facing job allowed to dress like this? This guy is on TVs and websites around the world dressed like he rolled out of bed and grabbed yesterday's shirt out of the laundry. Not on the weekend where he got called in for an emergency, but for a regular workday; one where he was scheduled to lead the all-day meeting he was in.
The vast majority of Americans have a dress code for work. It really isn't an issue when the boss shows up to work looking like a hobo to fix something on their day off, but if they dress like this every day its a slap in the face to all their employees with a dress code.
If this guys showed up rocking a turtleneck and jeans or a polo and khaki shorts and people lost their minds that would be one thing, but look at that picture again and tell fill me in on the latest version of whataboutism.
Nothing wrong with relaxing the dress code some, but this guy is a walking example of why most companies have them.
His constituents voted for him. He dressed exactly the same then as he is now. His constituents are his clients and they approve of this uniform. I sense it has something to do with the fact that it connects with them as it's genuine. Something that seems to be rather important to Senator Fetterman.
Perhaps we should rethink the literal centuries old understanding of what is or is not appropriate to wear in this setting.
I'm looking at that picture and I don't see anything that would cause a safety hazard nor anything offensive, so I don't give a shit and neither do the vast majority of people. He's not wearing anything that would negatively impact his job performance, it's fine.
Also, its the legislature. If there was a dress code, it should be red and blue jerseys with their donor's logos on them.
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I would really like to see a bot that posts media bias information from one of the trusted sites for that information on every post. I’m not capable of creating one but had looked around and unfortunately none of them seem to offer an api.
As she looked up from the crotch of the man she was manually ejaculating in public, Ms. Boebert was quoted as saying, "shorts is so bad, it's such disrespectful to the government and stuff".
I like it, it has some metaphorical levels, but I'm torn because Rome definitely had it coming.
Hell, did you know the Visigoths allowed women to inherit property and noble titles? They were the woke mob destroying the literal patriarchy by 410 AD standards.
Agreed. I expect my politicians to look good. I also really like when they give a good handjob around a bunch of children with their tits hanging out. That's my type of professional!
Because without the illusion of decorum putting a degree of separation between the common man and the senator, people might start to realize that the ones fucking them over are just as regular as the rest of us and maybe start to think about doing something about it.
So are we going to start eating with our bare hands? Taking showers when we feel like it? What's next? Clipping nails in the middle of the state of the union. Public perception and image still matters and it should matter. I don't give a shit what they say, putting a tie and a suit shouldn't be too hard.
I don't trust anyone with a suit and tie on. I'd venture to guess that's going to be the majority of the younger voting bloc as well.
Fetterman is wearing the uniform of his constituents and whether you like that or not doesn't really matter to Fetterman. I have a lot of respect for him because of that.
How could Schumer let somebody who OBVIOUSLY skips leg day preside over the senate?
What kind of example is he setting for the kids? How can I be expected to get my son to pound out squats to exhaustion before school if THIS is supposed to be a role model?
I get that this guy rolls how he wants to roll but I just wish someone would buy him clothes that fit. They can be cool clothes, shorts and whatever, put on a hoodie, that's all rad but just make it fit
he has such a strange body though he'd probably need to get something tailored, which kinda defeats the point of his style to relate average Americans.
Yup. I have 50ish size shoulders for suit jackets/shirts. I'm average height. I have to buy XL everything, trim fit because I'm on the lean end for a wide body guy. Nearly everything that isn't more expensive tailored size stuff hangs off of my body like I lost weight after I bought it. I've gained a decent amount of weight and lost it a few times, and my fucking close fit better when I let myself go...
Fetterman doesn't have anywhere near normal body dimensions. I'm sure finding clothes that fit decent is a struggle. Big shoulder long torso ends up with a lot of this kind of looking clothes.
I suspect he has the same issue I do. Too big for normal stores. Not big enough for big and tall. Apparently people who have 42” waists only have 30” inseams and if you have 54 shoulders you must have a 6xl belly and tyrannosaurus arms
I get making the dress code more lax, no reason business casual should be unacceptable. And yeah, Republicunts are hypocrits as always. But are we sure about no dress code at all? People joke in this thread about congressfolks showing up in fursuits or banana slings, but how long is it until someone actually unironically tries that?
It's the same logic as school uniforms. Congressmen, you see, have the same miniscule attention spans and raging libidos as teenagers, and the only way to keep them focused for more than 30 seconds is to surround them with nothing but boring blue suits.
Seriously, I suspect it's tradition-for-tradition's-sake, no less surreal than powdered wigs. It's interesting how aside from a waxing and waning of moustaches, there isn't that dramatic of a change in looks between the portraits of Presidents and Congressmen from 1820 or 2020. I'd hope that by 2120, we have at least one fursuit Presidential portrait, along with a head-in-a-jar, and of course, the first Robot President, who was obsolete on day 1 because he had to wait til the age of 35 to get elected.
When Jello Biafra ran for mayor of San Francisco, part of his platform was to mandate all businessmen wear clown suits between the hours of 9 am and 5 pm.
Who cares if they do? As long as they can still effectively do their job (har har yes) then what difference does it make if they wear leather daddy gear?
I'll vote for any Congress critter who promises to show up in a Randy Savage outfit on day one. I'll even move to a different voting district if I have to.
On the complete opposite end, people are joking about how if they want uniforms they should be wearing powdered wigs and breeches, but like, that's already a thing across the pond in the UK? The courts and house of Lords and a few other bodies have uniforms like that and yeah, there's a layer of outdated tradition, but it's also to sort of standardise how everyone looks, so that you still look like a barrister and someone to be taken seriously, regardless of age, race, gender, or looks. An equal footing sort of thing
Those costumes are only worn on the State opening of Parliament (which is kinda like Halloween for politicians) and even then only by certain people fulfilling certain ceremonial roles e.g. Black Rod.
Where wigs and gowns were a daily occurrence, until recently, was Crown Court where serious criminal trials were held. The rules changed a couple of years ago.
They are angry they didn't think of it first and some working class people could be thinking hmmm this guy dresses like me maybe he isn't so bad like republicans say.
Well shoot, if this keeps up they might have to start trying to judge people by the content of their character instead of just their virtue signaling. Do you know how fast the system would fall apart if voters actually had to figure out what kind of person their representatives were?
Elect me to congress and I'll show up to the first session after my swearing-in wearing a $10,000 full-body fursuit, and I'll use my own money to buy it, not a single cent of taxpayer funding required.
Okay. I have to say, I don't like the idea of making the US Senate more casual. Fetterman should be wearing a shirt and pants.
However, as far as I understand, this is still the Republicans fault for not being able to agree on what the wording of the rule regarding what clothing is appropriate. So if they don't like Fetterman's outfits, they still have themselves to blame here.
I think there is some value in dressing nice and decorum. The same way we dress nice for family dinner or wear business casual to work even though there might be no dress code, it shows respect. That being said, if anyone is outraged at this then they completely lost the track. We're long way past the point of caring about "decorum" in the senate. Dressing nice is like that nice little cherry on top of the sundae, it does not fucking matter if the sundae is made of literal shit.
Well I wasn't necessarily including myself in that we, but most people I work with try to dress nice. In that sense I am indeed the strange one in my office. Anyway, it was meant as a general statement about people, not a description of my life.
Like I said, it's ridiculous for them to cry crocodile tears over a guy in a hoodie when they wave away the fact that the whole building was sacked by a horde of magats. If there was any sign at all that they respected any of our country's institutions, then they could possibly be taken seriously on this. (But not likely.)
He's from Pennsylvania. I grew up in Pennsylvania and lived in several parts of it before I left the state. Dressing nice for family dinner means putting on a clean hoodie and your nicer jeans and sneakers/boots.
I just think it's interesting that the previous dress code was so much more restrictive for men than for women.
Men had one and only one choice: a suit and tie.
Women could wear suits (also called "pantsuits" for some odd reason -- why not call the alternative a "skirtsuit?"), they could wear dresses with short or long sleeves, they could wear skirts, just not miniskirts. The jacket was optional, although many women wore one. They could wear flat shoes or high heels.
In terms of colours, men had to wear dark colours. Women could wear red, maroon, checked patterns, the variations were huge. They could wear ties, but they didn't have to. Many wore necklaces instead, often with an open-necked shirt. Can you imagine a man being allowed to wear an open-necked shirt, no tie and chains?
I just hate suits and ties. I think they look stupid, and hate that that look is associated with "business wear" for men. If the Senate does go back to having a dress code, men should have as many options as women for a "professional" look that doesn't include suits. (And yes, open necked shirts with chains should be part of that.)
People are upright apes, and looks matter to apes. There's a reason that presidents have historically been significantly taller than the average citizen.
I bet you Biden is just itching to get into his normal attire: a cut-off Van Halen t-shirt, skin-tight jeans to show off the hog leg, and an Italian horn necklace.
Assuming he's taking all the legal bribe money anyway... If our politicians were actually living off their salaries it's actually pretty ruff to have somewhere to live at home and DC, while having a ton of cash to blow.
That being said, they all have a bunch of legal bribery slush fund money that it's completely fine for them to buy clothes with. The amount of shit they can call a campaign expense is astonishing...
I think this is fine. I understand why rules of formality exist, but it's not like Congress shows decorum in its actions. If they want us to respect it, they should pass good policy that helps people, we care much more about that than whether individual senators wear a suit.
Why is this where Fetterman draws a line in the sand? Aren't there more important things to cash in his reputation points on? Or does he think this makes him look "populist" among "elites"? There are real serious issues to deal with, so this is a distraction.
These are the kind of games that Democrats usually fall for, rather than play. It is sooo nice to see that not all Democrats are a bunch of fucken pussies and that Fetterman is willing to mess with Republicans in this way.