The right hand column for “Drinks” can just be tap water barring a few exceptions water in Europe is clean and safe as well as being delicious in some countries!
Check out my stack! Any suggestions for alternatives?
Looks really nice!
Though Lemmy.world is Dutch and I would suggest Qobuz as a better alternative to Spotify.
7-Eleven is 100% Japanese since 2005
Boycott 9-Eleven instead.
I am American but don't want to be anymore
From clothing down on the right column, never seen any of these available for sale here in the midwest
If I had to guess, the intended audience is Europeans.
Proton’s CEO supports Trump despite being an EU based company:
They support their pockets
Pretty ironic that the website that created this, buy-european-made.eu, is actually promoting their Reddit community. They should really switch to an EU-hosted Lemmy instance, and also join Mastodon, just like european-alternatives.eu: @[email protected]
Blue sky is an American non-profit?
This is misinformation. BlueSky is not a non profit. It is a public benefit company. The shareholders still expect profit.
The shareholders expect growth and therefore increase in the value of their investment, public benefit companies are however under no obligation to their shareholders to pass on profits to shareholders in the form of dividends. It's definitely not a non-profit either though, it's a different structure.
Plenty of "regular" for profit companies focus on increasing share value by investing profits back into the company instead of paying out dividends. That doesn't really mean anything.
Edit: I see what you mean based on what I said. They expect a return on investment is a better way to phrase it.
Anyone know if Qwant's search engine is pretty capable? I would like to ditch Google, but it's hard b/c it has the best search results
I've been using it for about a year now and it's quite capable. Picture search is good and the layout is quite nice.
There have been some fringe topics (mostly programming related) where I needed to resort back to Google because the results were just not good enough. Also it has no Maps equivalent (anymore) which sucks when you want to search for places.
I just use duckduckgo, which doesn't track you.
Just tried it, it has very similar results as Bing.
Somehow I don't use/buy any of these? Like from either side of the chart... I guess I'm doing my part?
There are so many issues with this, lots of wrong information, recommendations of stuff that's bad and really shouldn't be recommended and stuff that really should be there isn't. Please don't share it this further, it's absolutely shit.
TBF, it says "European", not "good".
It gets very obvious when it reccomends basically just volkswagens and volkswagen rebadges under cars.
"Perfect is the enemy of good. Please accept this slop."
DON'T SPREAD STUPID SH*** LIKE THAT.
What a BS honestly, I am fully anti Trump but this does not help at all. Why? Some examples:
- You think supporting European faschist enablers (e.g. Red Bull) is better than [insert random US company here] is just silly.
- Do your homework: Capri Sun is German, not American, gosh.
- Blueeky is NOT non-profit, stop spreading misinfirmation
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It still helps because you are buying european which is better for europe also you called every single company in the list fascist with this logic, a lot of them arent, idk what redbull did tho.
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It is german but pretty sure its sold by coca cola.
It doesn't help because most of those "euro" options are publicly traded on American stock markets where the fascists make their money lol. You booked on trivago instead of some other place great now that stock went up and the well invested musks of the world just made some money anyway. Money they will use to influence elections all over the world.
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HERE We Go? Isn't that owned by microsoft?
How can you make appliances list without Miele?
If you are in the market for a vacuum cleaner do yourself a favor, go more expensive and get a Miele, especially if you have some carpets, most vacuums can do a job on hard floors, but damn the difference of vacuuming carpets either a cheap vacuum vs my Miele is night and day.
(Don't know about the rest of their products, but they are german and a family owned business)
Bluesky has to be running a massive propaganda push. I see so many lies saying they are decentralized or like here saying they are a non-profit.
This shit is evil. Whoever is making these fliers is not being honest.
It’s more important to get people off twitter. Mastodon just doesn’t have the right pull right now.
Shout-out to Sharkey! We're young, hip and have reactions other than "heart". Plus, we can talk to Mastodon instances and it all just works. Ever thought what your social network needed was unlockable achievements? We've got that, too!
Mmm... ditch Garmin, strap a raspberry pi + car battery to your arm, & away you go.
"just ditch apple, get an old rotary phone, tons of cable, top tier camera, and an ibm system 370 and lug them around instead." Was that your point? That garmin is literally the only one making gpses and watches?
Lol, or get a polar fitness watch instead?
This list has some issues, Booking.com is Dutch and Philips' Consumer division is just a name that whitelabels other companies products and is owned by a Chinese investment company.
Booking.com is owned by an American company though
Also, Ecosia and Qwant rely on Bing for their search results I believe
or Google, but they are working together on their own search engine from what I heard
It's a shame it needed someone like Trump to actually get European alternatives more attention. They needed attention way before Trump.
Also the food and drinks alternatives are a bit odd. Many brands on the European side I don't recognize, probably because they're pretty local to whoever made this list.
Yep, several Nordic food, drink and snacks brands there. The burgers at Max are good but I doubt they'll deliver from Malmö Sweden to Portugal.
The list has it's shortcomings but it's a good start.
I live in the USA and I will buy foreign as much as possible. Until we make it illegal most likely
Completely missing are power tools and guns. So please buy Bosch, Festool, Hilti, H&K, Cz., Glock, FN.
Fun fact, Hilti, a Liechtenstein company, has 34000 employees. The country itself has 40000 citizens.
Yes, they produce mostly abroad afaik. Another somewhat known company from Liechtenstein is cable maker Neutrik. If you've even been in a pro audio or broadcasting studio or a scientific lab, you probably have used their cables.
I missed the "and guns" part of your first sentence, which made me think, "Whoa, I gotta get me a Glock power drill."
Good to know about Bosch, Festool, and Hilti, thanks for the info. My ancient Dewalt drill just started smoking, so I now know where to look.
This list seems a bit flawed, for instance on the travel line, Trivago is owned by Expedia in the US and Booking is headquartered in Amsterdam.
Also including BlueSky seems a little odd given the intent
Re Bluesky I did some "I am not a lawyer" digging.
Bluesky is owned by "Bluesky Social PBC", a Public Benefit Company registered in Delaware.
Generally speaking it means when decisions about the company are made, they must take into account how that decision benefits their stated public value. I struggled to find the specific value wording, but let's assume it's a reasonable one for the time being.
Unfortunately being a PBC is basically voluntary, especially when you're still a private company. You can become a non-PBC with a simple board vote. (A public company would require a stockholder vote.)
Bluesky's board consists of four members, one of which is Bain Capital, aka the company funding Bluesky.
So Bluesky is absolutely a better alternative to Twitter. If everyone left Twitter and moved to Bluesky that would be a monumental improvement.
However Bluesky is not a non-profit company, as the above graphic states.
bluesky is just Xlite.
Huh, Bain is Romney's group. Didn't know they were involved there.
As a American, I really do love Electrolux appliances.
Also, for headphones, beyer dynamic. Damn they make a great set of cans.
Also, for headphones, beyer dynamic. Damn they make a great set of cans.
Tbf, most great headphone makers are European
Idunno after getting some chifi stuff like hifiman, moondrop, timeless that outperform euros for fraction of the cost (hd600 is a ridiculous 300+ eur for ancient set of cans vs hifiman h400i that could be had for 90 bucks at one point)
A shout out to Austrian Audio (former AKG engineers), Focal, and Meze. Some of the best high-end audio companies for headphones, not that beyer is bad, I just don't personally enjoy their sound signature.
Also on the amp side of things Analogvibes is a German company producing diy tube compressors and equalizer kits for music production. On the pricey side for sure but the quality cannot be beat, they sound and feel absolutely beautiful.
Omg, I'm boycotting USA ... since like forever, I'm so sorry, it was totally by accident, thots and players, I hope everyone recovers financially.
Tho the steaming one I do a bit ... differently.
(Also just boycott big corpos as much as possible, no matter the region!!)
Imo the best European (specifically German) made OS is OpenSUSE. Its Sway spin is the definition of functionality above form, nearly all tools are designed with that in mind and it comes with good defaults out of the box. Granted it also looks amazing if not a tad dated, the unified design and color language however is nice even if that color is green. Also consider donating to the FSFE rather than the FSF.
OpenSuse is kind of a shit show, not to mention the weirdness with the trademark/pseudo-association it has with Suse. I've been running OpenSuse on a small production server for some years after migrating to it from CentOS. It's mostly fine, but I've had to deal with some sloppy updates breaking things, and have had to completely disable my automatic nightly backup&updates job because of an bug with the OS that no one seems to have solved yet (there's a discussion about it from a while back on their forums with multiple reports, but no resolution) . I'll be switching to Rocky or Alma next time I do major maintenance on it.
Also, unlike most distros, OpenSuse shipped the xzutils backdoor to their users. They quickly retracted it, but still. Not even Fedora did that!
EDIT: To quickly add, I don't think OpenSuse is terrible by any means, but the bar for Linux distros is quite high these days.
Hell yeah, OpenMeSussy is so great!
Tumbleweed (a rolling release) is so stable I switched my friends & family to it prob 5+ years ago, now I only have to do any maintenance when switching hardware.
I worked with opensuse back in the day on a collaborative Linux effort. What.a.trip.
Wow I hope it works for you and works well. Me, I've seen behind the curtain.
What's wrong? I'm very happy with it
One note on Bosch and the European car manufacturers: They're funding the Orbán government among others.
More info on this, please
This works a bit for Canada too.
OK, but... What is the fault of the rest of the people in the USA?
Food drink and clothing I was never buying either side anyway.
Recently got some new plain cotton t-shirts though. £2.50 each at Tesco so I got 8. Should just about last me to 2030.
Got me an AMD Tuxedo laptop and some Raspberry Pi's, and my gaming desktop is all AMD too. Fuck Intel and NVidia.
<HipsterVoice> I was avoiding everything made in the States before it was cool </HipsterVoice>
And for software like Microsoft and Adobe:
Some more recommendations
Category FOSS Media player mpv Drawing Krita Vectorial illustration Inkscape Video editing Kdenlive Music making Ardour I don't know Ardour but these are actually solid!
Look, I love Audacity which is an awesome audio editor but it is absolutely not an alternative to Logic or Fl, which are DAWs.
FreeCAD is a start, but nowhere as good as AutoCAD, unfortunately. I haven't tried GIMP's v3.0 version yet, but 2.x is terrible to use. Depending on what you need to do, Krita would be a better alternative.
Audacity isn't a good replacement at all for those. It has a different purpose. There should be LMMS and Ardour instead
Word alternative: I started trying out OnlyOffice, based in Latvia. So far it seems decent. Definitely doesn't look as dated as Open- and LibreOffice.
Logic, FL Studio alternative: Audacity is in my opinion not a serious alternative. If you want simple voice overs, sure, but otherwise no. I'd recommend Reaper instead. Not open source, but there aren't many DAWs that are (maybe Ardour, but I don't have experience with it ). Reaper is really open as far as proprietary DAWs go.
You do know that RedBull is owned by a right-wing extremist in Salzburg who tries to undermine Austrian democracy with Servus TV the same way Murdoch and Springer do in Germany and elsewhere?
The snacks section could use a lot of chocolates but then again as European it's hard to find American chocolate: Milka, Ferrero Rocher, Lindt, Tony's Chocolonely, Callier... Just to name a few.
I was surprised to see Toblerone on the American side, apparently they're under an American company nowadays! TIL
Also, Logitech isn't Chinese? Huh, TIL as wellRitter Sport chocolates is a banger.
Yah, avoid most US chocolate as best as possible. There are some local/regional chocolatiers that are darn good, but likely not going over to Europe.
Consider buying Solovairs instead of Dr martens. They're basically the same, the main difference is that they are made in the UK in a factory that used to make Dr martens before they delocalized their production to Asia
When my Solovair became too worn to wear, they sent me replacement soles, like, the whole bottom half of the shoe, and put me in touch with their repair guy to have them put on. Great service through and through, and lovely people!
I would be cautious to trust an American company just because they are non-profit. We know that if they get sufficiently big they can just transition into being for profit (see OpenAi), chances are regulations regarding this won't become stronger later.
Signal being open source of course helps, but it's usually the ecosystem that people grow to rely on that keeps them in place, not the technology. Just look at how big Reddit is compared to Lemmy for a good example of that. If signal was federal that would be quite different since jumping ship would be easy.
It's not just a matter of being a no profit, it's also a matter of business incentives and target customers. Signal survives with donations and specifically targets the more privacy -conscious segment of the general population. They don't have a business model without the current setup, as the moment they advertise, sell data or do anything that violates the implicit contract with customers, their customer base disappears.
OpenAI on the other hand was "open" until it came up with a product, then it immediately stopped being so. But how many people from their customer base care about openness?
For signal also privacy is a core feature, for openAI being "open" was not.
I think the situation is very different, and while we should always check and never trust for free, we need to acknowledge the fundamental structural differences.
Also: avoid AKG, consider Austrian Audio.
AKG is a popular brand in professional music and audiophile circles. It was bought by Samsung in 2016, who promptly drove the company into the ground, closed their Austrian facilities, and moved headquarters to America and production to SE-Asia. AKG's name is now used for brand recognition on Samsung's generic big tech garbage. Yes, I'm still salty about it.
Austrian Audio was founded by the actual engineers who worked at AKG, currently owned by a Danish audio tech company. They produce high-end professional headphones.
Sennheiser and beyerdynamic are also big competitors in the hi-fi market. Both are German.
Honestly a lot of this is just good advice in general, even speaking as an American.
Also, oof that General Motors apparently isn't important enough to be worth avoiding (and that
ChryslerStellantis no longer counts as American).this flyer is full of lies. It was made by someone who doesn't understand globalism or what a non-profit is.
GM sold their european division to PSA in 2017, which is now part of Stellantis.
Maybe they don’t have a huge physical presence in Europe like ford does
LOL! On one hand, sure, you could say that: the American companies GM and Chrysler don't have a presence in Europe.
But really what happened is more that they have such a big presence in Europe that they got bought out and are now European themselves. I had already known Fiat bought Chrysler to form FCA, but TIL while researching this response that GM Europe (so just the European subsidiary, not the whole thing) got bought out by PSA Peugeot-Citroen. Then PSA and FCA merged to form Stellantis. So, yeah: Chrysler and GM (in Europe) are not only fully-European companies instead of American-owned ones, they're the same European company. 🪦
You can add Miele to the appliances list.
Had a washing machine that has lasted decades from them. Also upvote because weebl
Spond?
Spond is The Free Sports Team Management App Chosen by 1000's of Teams Worldwide!
Social media? Sports management is social media????
Social media gets used by a lot of amateur sports teams, especially ones where the players are kids. There's a lot of parent communication that goes through facebook, instagram, etc.
First time i see this sub on the frontpage.
You should boycott evil corporations regardless of where they are from, don't make it a nationalistic thing, some of the alternative suggested here are as much bad as their usa counterpart. You are not achieving shit by switching from nike to adidas...
The last line on the document says "Perfect is the enemy of good. Every little bit counts."
It's pretty apt. To deal with this particular issue it makes sense to divest from one country to another regardless of brands. Divesting from mega corporations is another issue entirely and beyond the scope of this boycott.
You can buy from a company where people get 30 days of paid leave, unlimited sick days, and health care.
Of course especially for fashion, production will mostly be somewhere in Asia under dubious conditions.
No you see, when the workers are locked in the burning production plant, it matters a lot if they are are murdered for a billionaire who avoids taxes in the EU, as opposed to a billionaire avoiding taxes in the US.
Just a random example from the list: H&M makes their fast fashion in third world countries and has stores all over the world including america.
Afaik its about decreasing reliance on American goods and services due to their tarrifs on the EU, those products and services may not be available in the future so its better to find solutions now then scramble later
+1 for MUBI , it is a streaming service with curated high quality cinema. And they have a very accesible plan . They have a notebook or magazine they deliver every few months that is priceless. I have some volumes. For Cinema lovers obviously .
I wanted to subscribe, I think they had a promotion for 1$ for a few months. I looked into their privacy policy and I was not really happy, data collected for personalized advertising etc.
It was unfortunate, but I would like something to see more niche movies.
love to see bespoke weathered text instead of a font
L for Proton mention.
CEO is fascist loving boot licker
Edit: company rescinded statement Andy Ten Yen made
Fastmail is a good non US alternative. Based in Australia.
For those that don’t know about Proton. Proton CEO said “10 years ago, Republicans were the party of big business and Dems stood for the little guys, but today the tables have completely turned.” The company then doubled down on a Reddit post which it eventually deleted.
You have to be blind or a liar to look at what the Republicans have done in the last 10 years and think they pro little guy.
Despite claiming political neutrality, Proton later issued a statement reiterating its support for stronger antitrust measures, particularly against Big Tech. The company noted that regardless of broader political views on the Republican platform, the appointment of Gail Slater as head of the Justice Department’s antitrust division under Donald Trump was a positive step.
So they don’t care how bad the government is as long as it helps them. So not a Nazi but willing to support them if they can get something out of it. Furthermore it is also not true. The US under Trump has threatened Europe multiple times to defend big Tech.
Proton further argued that major tech companies were attempting to align with Trump because his administration posed an “unprecedented challenge to their monopolistic dominance.” This statement only fueled concerns that Proton was leaning politically despite its claims of neutrality.
They don’t seem to understand what politically neutral is. Also if you wanted a president that went after big tech, Biden did way more than Trump:
Under President Biden, the DOJ and FTC have taken a more aggressive approach to antitrust enforcement.
The Justice Department filed another suit against Google over its dominance in the advertising technology space and sued Apple for allegedly monopolizing the smartphone market.
Biden’s FTC also sued Amazon for antitrust violations, accusing the e-commerce giant of engaging in anticompetitive behavior to dominate the online retail space.
Proton also lied about logging user data.
In 2021, Proton Mail admitted to handing over a user’s IP address to Swiss authorities following a request from French law enforcement via Europol. This revelation contradicted Proton’s earlier claims that it did not log user data.
Yikes that's worse than I thought
You seem to simply disagree with him on "going after big tech" when it comes to antitrust. The guy also mentioned why he thinks democrats are a lost cause in the antitrust space.
So they don’t care how bad the government is as long as it helps them
This is a complete non sequitur from the previous paragraph. The reasonable conclusion is that they (or better, HE) don't care if it's a republican or a Democrat pushing for antitrust enforcement. They didn't endorse the government, they didn't campaign for them, they praised that pick, and if it is a good pick why shouldn't them? Everyone benefits from big tech monopolies being broken up.
Now, we might disagree with his opinion, I personally think it was naive and overly optimistic, but having an opinion like that is completely legitimate.
Proton also lied about logging user data.
False. What they did was 100% expected by any company. They have been forced to log that particular user data, because complying with laws is a requirement to run a business. Not logging data is not a control that cannot be implemented in a way that can't be reverted. They had to be forced to log user data because they didn't, which proves exactly the opposite of what you are claiming.
If you want to take it up with someone here, take it up with governments who abuse antiterrorism laws. Any company in any jurisdiction could be forced to do the same.
Same for the case where they handed out the recovery email address of that user. 100% expected and a great proof of how little data they have about users.
Edit: For completeness here is an article from someone who went through past history (words and actions) for Proton https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e
I am still waiting for anyone to give actual evidence for that. Stating on twitter that the Democrats were unwilling to even listen to their concerns, while the Republicans were willing to meet, seems to be quite far from bootlicking imo.
The whole outrage seemed to be engineered in the same way there were people claiming Proton would be a CIA assets, but never providing any lead, not even some obscure untrustworthy website making such a claim.
Looks like the company officially recinded the statement Andy Yen made. Posted text to avoid Xitter link
Tap for spoiler
We want to clarify that Proton's CEO did not endorse Trump, only the Republican nominee for antitrust. Nevertheless, we have retracted the statement, which was put out by mistake due to an internal miscommunication. For further information, you can also see this Reddit thread that contains an analysis of why many believe that Proton and our CEO are not supporting any party:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/comments/1id5v21/does_proton_really_support_trump)
Proton is not controlled by any single person, but by the non profit Proton Foundation which has neutrality in its governing principles and we remain committed to the neutrality principle. The Proton Foundation is also legally obligated in its charter to defend freedom and democracy.
trying to convince me to switch to BMW. bold move Cotton.
The Big Blinkers will flight you at every step!
(But it's worth it.)
Thank you - from (sadly) an American
Pretty sure Qwant just uses Bing's index for search
Same goes for Ecosia though both are now creating a European search index.
They're working on European search indexer along with Ecosia
It's pretty much just Bing and Google no matter what engine you use nowadays. Well, unless you go with Yandex or chinese search engines: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_search_engines - Mojeek is a meta-search engine, but it also crawls the internet itself, which makes it very interesting.. I might give it a go.
For clothing id probably recommend thrifting. But I love this list.
HMD could be mentioned in electronics, they're Finnish and they make smartphones. The CPUs in some of their phones are from Unisoc who are Chinese; maybe some people would want to know that. In their other phones they use Qualcomm CPUs, and Qualcomm are American.
Also there are more alternatives to American goods/services outside of Europe, e.g. goods/services from places like Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Australia, Canada, New Zealand.
E.g. South Korean cars (Hyundai and Kia) or Taiwanese electronics (Asus, Acer, MSI).
he CPUs in some of their phones are from Unisoc who are Chinese
AFAIK you can't make a phone without some Chinese components.
Also there are more alternatives to American goods/services outside of Europe
Yeah but the point of "Buy European" isn't just anti-American. It's to you know...Buy European. You defeat the purpose when you go buy something built in Asia.
True the point of this community is to buy European. I'm in Europe (the UK) so I like the idea of buying European.
OP's post talked about boycotting the USA though, so I'm just saying that there are more options as well as European ones if you want to boycott the USA.
Also the countries I mentioned have relatively similar values to Europe.
San pellegrino sparkling drinks are really good.
Owned by Nestlé 🙃
I guess the silver lining is that you'd at least not be supporting a US-based company.
I've barely seen any of the drink alternatives (unfortunately).
Besides Redbull, which I don't drink, I've seen fritz cola, but that's usually at 2-2,5x the price of a coca cola. As an alternative that really stings.
the drink alternatives feel rather german-centric lmao, like fritz seriously?
the only one i know as a more widespread brand is zingo and red bull. And really, we're talking about 3 categories of drink here: cola, orange, and caffeine. I would be very surprised if there aren't at least 3 generic brands available per country that taste perfectly okay and are cheap as fuck to boot.
Is Fanta made mainly for the European market? Like nobody in the US even knows what that is. They used to love it in Germany though.
Hahaha for some reason the generic sodas from Aldi/Lidl/... Slipped my mind. Most of them don't taste that great though. Guess it's a good excuse to just drink more water ( and add a bit of lemon juice or other slices of fruit for flavour ).
Don't forget A.G. Barr for drinks, Iron Bru, Rubicon
Shop at Aldi or Lidl (German). Although Asda isn't owned by Walmart any more, so I think British supermarkets are all pretty British again, apart from Safeway but I haven't seen one of those in a long time.
why not just tell people to shop local? do other countries just not have domestic chains anymore?
i know switzerland has coop, and last i checked there's a who series of cooperative grocery stores throughout europe..
Lidl and Kaufland should be avoided.
From the Hebrew Wikipedia article:
https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/אקס_אם_סייבר
The company's product runs on Amazon's AWS cloud, and similar products are in development for Microsoft Azure and Google's GCP environment.[2]
Aside from running deeply integrated into US cloud providers, it is reasonable to assume for Israeli cybersecurity companies that they have links to Israeli and US intelligence. And the CEO Noam Erez is advertised as "he spent 25 years with the Israeli intelligence community" https://xmcyber.com/team/noam-erez/
So buying at Lidl helps Trump and Netanyahu.
Blimey. Aldi it is.
Is any 7-11 still US? I thought 7&I holdings here in Japan bought it all.
Parent company is Seven-Eleven Japan Co., Ltd. But still run with headquarters in Texas and US CEO and president.
This seems to have been made by a Swede.
what do you mean sibylla (being named after a member of the royal family in sweden) isn't an international brand??
Delta Chat is a European decentralized instant messenger alternative using existing protocols.
protocols? isn't it just a very quirky email client?
Yea email is a protocol
Love to see Europeans jumping on board as well. At some point Americans only customers will be Russia and North Korea if Trumps administration keeps bullying and alienating countries like this.
I'd really like to get rid of Google Maps, but the alternatives I've tried failed to make a good replacement.
I use the bus / tram / metro more than anything, and occasionally drive long distances. I'm okay with having two different apps for driving and public transport.
Any suggestions ?
Öffi works really well. See coverage on their site.
Delta Chat might also be worth mentioning/adding. Haven’t used it extensively but the feature set is promising.
Damn, I wish I had MAX were I live. I was in Sweden last summer and my SO didn't let me go to MAX 😭
Funny how most of the list is pretty one sided with all of the famous brands on the same side, but half them items have the famous brands in America and half have it on the European side.
Mistral le Chat is an idiot, sadly. I’d love an alternative to OpenAI, but that isn’t it.
Isn’t the proton guy like a Russian Nazi or something?
He is the Antichrist, singlehandedly causes global warming and I believe he might also have played a role in the spread of the plague in Europe in the 1300.
Like seriously, accusations of this caliber should be supported by solid evidence. If you can't bother even reading the context of what all the noise was about, don't go around commenting on the topic?
No.
educate yourself on the topic before spreading misinformation
Oh look, Andy Yen is a pro-Trump clown. Educate yourself before commenting next time.
https://theintercept.com/2025/01/28/proton-mail-andy-yen-trump-republicans/
