Boeing CEO admits company has retaliated against whistleblowers during Senate hearing
Boeing CEO admits company has retaliated against whistleblowers during Senate hearing
Kicking off his testimony at the special committee on Tuesday, Calhoun apologized to the families of Boeing crash victims who were present
“You have a duty to demand the highest safety standards... and [ensure] that ‘speak up’ in fact means speak up, not shut up, as it is meant all too often.”
Tell that to Snowden, Assange, Manning etc.
Obligatory fuck Assange, no protection for Russian Agents.
Fuck Snowden too, no respect for him running to Russia. If you think it's your moral obligation to break the law, you should be willing to take the consequences. You can't run off to an enemy state that does much worse things than what you were willing to break the law to expose. I have zero doubt Snowden is a traitor and gave Russia whatever they wanted. It's possible he started off well meaning, but I wouldn't be shocked if he did it for Russia all along. His original intentions don't matter now either way, he had a high clearance and Russia now knows everything he learned with that clearance beyond even the scope of his "whistleblowing".
Quick, prepare the wrist-slapping fines!
The total energy of the strong finger wagging that follows this admission will be enough to power a flashlight for 2 milliseconds.
These fellows are going to get slammed and blasted by Congress, it might spoil up to a few minutes of their time on the yacht.
Maybe even Torched!
Do you mean "award them more fat defense contacts??" Cuz that's what we're gonna do!
Much too harsh for this gold-domed "too important to really hold to account" CEO. Perhaps a mildly stern, yet askance look (or two, if the crowd rumbles for more)
United States Senate be like pull those sleeves up slightly, bad boy!
oh boy their wrist is gonna hurt so much. that is what you get for killing/endangering lives of many people to gain couple more billions on your already existing billions. Go MURICAH!
And yet, still CEO I see...Sorry for misinformation - see comment below.
How the f do you even start killing people for this? I mean the PR crisis that follows an assassination makes everything way worse doesn't it?
There are people who have a lot riding on the line going up (often the same people in high positions in the organisation)
All these whistleblowers make the line go down
Of the people psychopathic enough to accumulate enough wealth to have a significant stake in Boeing, there's going to be a percentage who are full-psychopath.
It's what unabated greed looks like
Let's also not forget those lucrative NASA and Military contracts. A lot of private and public money riding on this.
You only kill a whistleblower if you're confident that they would have said something worse in court. It's almost guaranteed to be front page news.
Exactly this. Whatever those whistleblowers knew must have been so damning, that committing two murders was better publicity.
David Calhoun apologized to the families of Boeing crash victims, saying the manufacturer was “totally committed” to future saftey improvements, as he began testimony at the committee on Tuesday.
Cue South Park
investment bankerBP oil spill apology.Also, "saftey"? Seriously, Independent?
Do you mean South Park's BP apology? The investment banker is the "...and it's gone!" thing.
I did mean the BP apology, good catch.
That's the... first... thing... that's... ever gone wrong.
We know, they're fucking dead.
People have died due to the greed and corruption of the leadership of Boeing. The people at the top have in fact gotten huge financial rewards by taking actions that were likely to kill people. There is no mechanism in US society to hold these people accountable. Are they going to get put in prison? Nope! Are they going to be PERSONALLY fined? Nope!
I really dislike how in Chinese society people are not able to criticize the government. I hope one day, everyone everywhere will have free speech. It's unfortunate to say this, but in China, this would be dealt with severely and and with impact. I am not saying their mechanism is right, but the US has no mechanism at all. We all know nothing will happen, especially because most of the deaths were foreigners. It's disgusting and makes the US look bad.
This is why ancient humans invented mob justice. When the laws don't work, order still needs to be imposed.
Exactly this. In ancient Roman times, emperor Caracalla was infamous for having many of his enemies outright killed. One of these was the brother of a soldier who was assigned to his personal guard at the Rhine border regions. When Caracalla got off his horse for a piss, he got a gladius thrusted between his ribs. For all his might and power, he very much brought that on himself.
Sometimes people like that soldier are the last line of justice in the world.
why are people in this thread acting as if he's just admitted to ordering hits on whistleblowers
We will never know if Boeing did it... But we do know how these companies are, so I am just assuming this they did until proven otherwise.
You can always count the corpo trash to do crime... 24/7
1% CEO of one of the largest companies in the military industrial complex.
We obviously haven't read the article, yet feel entitled to comment on it all the same! /s bc not having read it myself, I just presume that's the case 🤣.
More importantly, why are you surprised at that?
Social media is more about feelings than facts, especially when it comes to precision in the details - the barrier to speak is very low, on purpose, to allow us to vent our frustrations at the world being unfair and corrupt and twisted.
In this case it is fairly understandable - he is a very bad man who did very bad things. He has now admitted to a subset of the badness, and people wish that he had gone further to admit it all, so people talk as if that were the case.
Again, that's just my guess, but we cannot control the world, only ourselves.
Fine the CEO, not to the company. He has to take responsibility.
When poor people put others in danger and/or exploit things for financial benefit, they go to prison.
Stop giving fines for big companies and actually start putting people in fucking prison.
And put him in jail
Fine? Arrest and jail.
Fine the company. Take the capital (which will have to serve the community), fine and jail the executives!
Companies are as accountable as the executives.
Of course they relieved themselves of the resource (human) that negatively impacted the share price.
Same way they relieve themselves of a resource (bolts) that negatively impacts the share price.
This just shows you how much of amateur this guy. If he doesn't know you just lie lie lie what's he doing being a CEO?
He is not lying because his counsel advised him that trick won't here. They are doing damage minimization.
This clown should be prosecuted for murder tho
Seriously! Maybe he's trying to play the honesty card in hopes that people see it as being transparent and we should trust him, but this is admission of guilt and willful negligence that lead to death. The guy should be charged and locked up.
In these comments:
CEO admits to whistleblowers being disciplined at work (which everyone knew, he just is saying it)... suddenly becomes He admitted murder!
Sad. If you make up a reality because you feel that way, you are no better then they are.
He doesn't have to admit murder but it is right in front of your face. Someone very connected to Boeing murdered them.
Another thing is the kind of person and even entity/organization it takes to discipline a whistleblower for literally looking out for the public wellbeing such in this case. It takes a sociopath with no regard for human life. If they would discipline them at work what else would they do in private?
Guy 1 who suddenly committed suicide? sure. Guy 2 would need about a hundred people to keep the secret and that's just not happening.
Someone very connected to Boeing murdered them.
Yeah, that second guy, they went all biological right? I mean they gave him the flu to get him to the hospital. Once there, and in his weakened state, they sprang MRSA on him! That way, when they caused the parting shot with a stroke, no one would suspect!
Conspiracy is a lot of fun! Lets add aliens. I mean the whole reason why this is all so hush hush is the government is in a contract with the Aliens from Alpha Centauri and these people stumbled onto it. It is so obvious!
You're right, all these whistleblowers are dying completely naturally and it's not suspicious at all.
I'd still fly in a Boeing until I hear about them start to get recalled/grounded/etc more, but you must be pretty naive if you don't see that these deaths are suspicious and don't think that companies in the United States of America, the land of big business, out of all countries in the world, could have legislative and other protections.
No they are not that suspicious at all. The first death served no purpose unless you really believe it was a "fuck you" death.
The second wasnt much better, but come on, they really got a hospital involved? Do you know how stupid that sounds?
I DO think CEO's, members of the board, and rich shareholders have legislative and other protections. At the very least the ability to send lawyers to court for the rest of their lives if they had to. I believe they can get away with quite a lot, and probably make money doing it even if caught. So none of that, NONE of that means resorting to murder. There just isn't really a need to.
If this were a case of targeted blackmail, perhaps somekind of love affair gone wrong or some kind or really nasty shit, then I could see it.
You can ruin peoples lives, create shoddy products, pollute the land, boss people around, and you won't get in any trouble if you are rich. No need to murder anyone.
Suuuuuuuure. Found the assassin! /s
Seriously? No better than the giant megacorp that caused many, many deaths, and other horrible shit they've caused or enabled, for thinking they might have caused another death or two in retaliation for exposing their crimes? Fuck off with that shit
What kind of a cruel world do we live in, where the CEO must apologize in public to the families of the plane loads of people their product killed, in literal crashing planes?
Apologize and then say "I'm proud of our safety record"
Boeing CEO Commits Suicide to the Back of his Head After Senate Hearing
Investigators released the fully typed, with no signature, suicide note, written on Boeing stationary:
I have decided to take my life after I lied during my Senate testimony. I felt pressured by the committee leader to say untruthful things for political gain. To the many shareholders that have helped us weather the storm over the last few months, I want to thank you and hope that, in some way, my death increases the value of your investment.
P.S. tell my wife, I don't know, make up something touching.
Tell my wife I said hello
Big fucking yikes - wonder what the play is here?
Trying to get in front of the train instead of roped into it ?
Either way, more evidence of the psychopathy that is big business in the states, and a byproduct of late state capitalism
wonder what the play is here?
Sometimes even the sociopaths slip up and accidentally tell the truth.
"Retaliate"
No real investigation. No punishment. Same Shit Different Day.
Captain.
Question: should whistleblowers get Snowden Award(if such exists)?
I can't belive I'm saying this but Josh Haley fuckin grilled the fucker
Jesus christ man