Trump Says Jan. 6 Was an Insurrection
Trump Says Jan. 6 Was an Insurrection
Donald Trump said on Thursday that the Capitol attack on Jan. 6 was an insurrection caused by Nancy Pelosi.
Trump’s legal team also tried to throw cold water on the idea in a filing earlier this week, writing that the “events of January 6 were not an ‘insurrection’ as they did not involve an organized attempt to overthrow or resist the U.S. government.”
Trump disagrees, apparently.
“They kept saying about what I said right after the insurrection,” he said outside Mar-a-Lago after arguments concluded in Washington, D.C. “I think it was an insurrection caused by Nancy Pelosi.
But Biden’s brain is the one we should be worried about. 🙄
We should, because it's the brain that has to beat Trump. We don't have any better options, unfortunately.
I can think of one but Katie has other ideas
In the Idiocracy timeline i think Joe Rogan gets elected.
I'm worried about both. Neither should be president. Trump never should have been. Having 70 and 80+ year old presidents that couldn't program a damned TV remote is just a showcase of how terrible our plutocracy has become.
Yes, because he's currently the president. There are more important things than some has-been Cheeto monster shouting at clouds, like the genocide the current sitting president is actively abetting.
Well, we do have that well publicized viral tweet from Pelosi where she called all her supporters to DC telling them "Will be wild!" then topped that off by whipping the crowd into a frenzy by telling them they have to "fight like hell".
Oh, wait, that was Trump...
I mean, I understand how the law works and everything, but from a very pragmatic perspective, how is there even a soupçon of doubt at this point? Having a trial for this really feels more like we're asking "which side has craftier lawyers" rather than "did he actually incite an insurrection". It seems so silly.
(I hope this makes sense, I'm a little high.)
There's no doubt, the rightists on the court want him there and the liberals are terrified of speaking out one this one. The procedural argument they're using is that "the 14th Amendment delegates this power to Congress, so Colorado doesn't get to unilaterally decide because they're bypassing Congress." Unfortunately for this line of argument, Congress already used its authority to pass a law, 18 U.S.C. § 2383, which states that anybody who engages "in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto" is ineligible for political office.
Since the courts have already sent a variety of participants and organizers to prison for seditious conspiracy, seems pretty reasonable to conclude there have already been findings than Jan 6 was an insurrection or rebellion of some kind, or else it wouldn't have been seditious. Even more to the point, participants in Jan 6 have already been found ineligible and removed from public office due to their participation in Jan 6. Colorado is simply applying already-existing federal statutes regarding Trump's eligibility, and more to the point, arguably states that ARE putting him on the ballot are actually the ones flaunting federal law.
If Nancy Pelosi caused the insurrection why didn't your people try to charge her instead of focusing on Hunter Biden?
Two words:
Dick.
Pics.
Two more words:
For.
MTG.
He meant Nancy Pelosi (and schumer) insurrected against his rightful rule by coordinating with the police, mayor, and national guard to squash his... "good people"
The Narcissist's Prayer
That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault. <- We are now here
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.We're definitely not going to get to hear "i didn't mean it."
And I'd argue that we're already on the last line.
Nah, it's a bit like experiencing the 6 stages of grief - when you list them like denial, anger, bargaining, et cetera... it makes it sounds like they're going to happen in chronological order. The reality is however that they will all occur simultaneously with the extent of each varying moment to moment.
So... guilty verdict?
He's not currently on trial for insurrection, for some reason.
He's on trial for the January 6th insurrection. Specifically: conspiracy to defraud the United States, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding and conspiracy against rights.
The two in the middle are going to be very hard to defend against considering he admits it was an insurrection.
I think it was an insurrection caused by Nancy Pelosi.
Those first two words are doing some hard work fending off a slander suit.
Colorado needs to throw the middle finger to scotus and keep trump off the general election ballot.
Roberts has made his decision. Now let him enforce it.So the people who were Antifa and MAGA patriots who went to the Capital to peacefully cause an insurrection that was and wasn't a false flag setup by the FBI and "globalists" and are going to prison because of the actions they did and didn't do on Jan 6 were all being led by... Pelosi?
Yes, but also he loves them and thinks they're very special.
Does that mean he loves Nanci Pelosi by extension?
Yep, and before Pelosi, Trump said it was Nikki Haley who caused it.
Man, I just need Trump to blame Taylor Swift for the whole thing, and then my Insurrection-Bingo card will be full!
I think it was an insurrection caused by Nancy Pelosi.
How dare Nikki Haley cause an insurrection!
She was still bitter about losing in 2016!
Trump beat Obama in 2016.
That's RIGHT! January 6th was OBVIOUSLY an Insurrection plotted by Nancy Pelosi to send FBI and Antifa into the Capitol to STOP the certification of their chosen Candidate because that's the ONLY way to make Grab Her By The Pussy look BAD! But it also WASN'T an Insurrection and all those people in jail are PRISONERS OF WAR that need to be released! Unless they are Antifa or FBI which they AREN'T even though it was ONLY FBI and Antifa committing the Insurrection that was NOT an Insurrection!
Trump’s legal team also tried to throw cold water on the idea in a filing earlier this week, writing that the “events of January 6 were not an ‘insurrection’ as they did not involve an organized attempt to overthrow or resist the U.S. government.”
Well, they are right on part of that. It definitely wasn't well organized, just like the entirety of Trump's presidency. I thank the powers that be on a regular basis that he and his cronies were so incompetent.
It was more organized that most realize I think is the problem, it just went wrong. People were fired, others were hired, reinforcements were re routed, orders were given to not intervene, not to supply aid, defenses, weapons, anything. It is just being lost to time.
And something to keep in mind is they can learn from it, how it went wrong, if they have the opportunity to try again.
I commented here a while back about how I was pretty sure my dad wouldn't vote for him again because of this. Had it been a Democrat, he'd be screaming for them to be thrown in the gulags (he was raised/went into the military during the cold war). But when I asked... He said he had faith our institutions could handle it. I asked why he would take that risk and he didn't have much of an answer
It was well organized internally. It was just wrapped in an extra layer of disorganized random people that clung to it as a disguise for plausible deniability.
If J6 was all democratic agitators in red hats, why is half of his platform pardoning anybody and everybody with J6 charges? 🤔
Because everyone knows that Trump's supporters are mindless idiots that could easily be influenced to do insane things. What they're disputing is that is was Trump influencing these people. Maybe Nancy Pelosi (legislative branch) ordered the the FBI (executive branch which was run by Trump at the time) to influence the mindless idiots that support Trump to storm the Capitol to interrupt the formalities involved with recognizing Joe Biden won the election. Any ignorance of how the government is actually structured can be waved away with the term "deep state".
So we've achieved some kind of common ground... at least we all agree that Trump's supporters are mindless idiots that are easily influenced. Even Trump agrees with that. And therefore even Trump supporters agree that Trump supporters are mindless idiots. Common ground!
The tricky question is: Why would Nancy Pelosi want to interrupt the formalities to declare that Joe Biden won the election? I guess just to make Trump look bad. Which makes sense to Trump because he's a narcissist. And Trump supporters go along with this because... well you know.
Are you kidding me? These ads are fucking insane. Christ
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I'm so glad I don't have to deal with that shit.
No matter what he says or does we'll never get him because his fanatics either don't care or admire it.
His stupid mouth is like how Darth Vader was supposed to bring balance to the force in Star Wars Ep. 6
Star Wars Ep. January 6
His cultists will still say it was peaceful or bring up another event lol.
straight from the horse's ass's mouth 🤣
I have the impression the case before the supreme court is being pushed in the wrong direction ... It should be about Trump being an insurrectionist (and consequently not able to be re-elected). This would give a clear cut answer and stops everything good, or bad.
Not the current argument of if states are allowed to ban anyone from the ballot. Where the supreme court can wiggle it's answer and blame individual States for blocking the democratic process. Whatever the answer will be here things will limp onwards with more and more court cases.
I don't even understand why this is a issue of contention. The states already have complete, constitutionally granted controlnof how they run their elections, including who is allowed to be on the ballot, that generally being the pervue of the individual Secretarys of State, but each state has its own rules on it.
It was laid out this way to dissuade federal interference and potential corruption.
I'm with you, this is theatrics, stalling.
And Idk about you but the inability of our elected to enforce our law really makes me lose my last two shits about the law. Justice delayed is justice denied. when peaceful means of justice are out of reach, then violent ones are not only inevitable, but logical.
If you can't be famous, you can ALWAYS be infamous.
Can he say that again in front of the Supreme Court Justices? I bet he doesn't have the balls!
He can say whatever he wants and those fuckers will still rule in his favour. The Supreme Court is very much part of the insurrection.
Could you repeat that last sentence louder for the folks in the back?
Insanity defense? He’s not competent to stand trial.
last year i read an article by a neurologist who made the case that trump has dementia. it was pretty well supported by both his own observations and those of others. i was convinced.
My bet is on him confusing Haley/others enough to call her Pocahontas.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The Supreme Court heard arguments on Thursday pertaining to whether states can throw Donald Trump off the 2024 presidential ballots if they determine he violated the 14th Amendment — which essentially disqualifies insurrectionists from holding office.
Trump’s legal team also tried to throw cold water on the idea in a filing earlier this week, writing that the “events of January 6 were not an ‘insurrection’ as they did not involve an organized attempt to overthrow or resist the U.S. government.”
There’s zero evidence she had anything to do with the attack on the Capitol, and it’s flat-out absurd to think she would have been incentivized in any way to marshal a mob of people waving Trump flags to disrupt the certification of a fellow Democrat’s election win.
“No matter what unhinged lies Trump spews about the insurrection he instigated, as numerous independent fact-checkers have confirmed, Speaker Pelosi did not plan her own assassination,” spokesperson Aaron Bennett said in a comment to Rolling Stone.
Republicans in Congress — totally in thrall to Trump’s now-years-long push to rewrite reality of what happened around the 2020 election — are doing what they can to tamp down the idea the former president did anything wrong.
“When Joe Biden was inaugurated, and this entire Capitol complex was surrounded with 30,000 National Guard troops, none of you stood there and called that an insurrection,” Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) told reporters, referring to the security measures put in place after Jan. 6.
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none of you stood there and called that an insurrection,” Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene
STFU, Margarine Three Names
His lawyers right now be like:
His personal lawyers already made a shit case in front of the Supreme Court, but luckily he's got at least four Justices also working the case.
No I'm pretty sure his lawyers don't see any problem with what he says
"sortition." look it up. i dare ya.
"Selection by drawing lots."
oops
And Obamna stubbed your toe on your table in your house.
Someone institutionalize this guy god damnit.