Lemmy.world updated to 0.18.1-rc

Really like seeing posts like this that explain what's going on. Thanks for all the hard work!

Thanks a lot for your hard work, take your time with your children

This post encapsulates what I love about this place.

So no more random sports posts at the top of every thread? That was a weird bug.

Good work upgrading! I can't imagine it being too easy with a big instance.

I had issues with comments not federating to my own instance before this update (showing 0 for hours). Opening up this up now showed most of them right away if not all. Hopefully that means 0.18.1 fixed a fair few issues people had with federation.

Well done! Thank you for your efforts, cheers!

For everyone experiences issues during the login,

This is caused by an issue in the latest RC of the Lemmy UI. It's already been reported, and ruud will probably decide how to deal with it tomorrow.

The current workaround
Make sure you are on the main page (https://lemmy.world) and not looking at any posts or something like that before hitting the login button.
If you encounter other issues, please make sure to clear the browser cache. The latest upgrade also made changes to the API, which can cause issues with the cached version of the website.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/1740

A bit off topic, but does anyone else hate how when you click on a post and then go back, the page auto-resets to the top? Wish it would remember how far down you scrolled and return to that point.

Huge thanks to the lemmy.world team over the last couple of days to scale and maintain the instance! There's a link for donating on the sidebar for lemmy.world - just a couple bucks a month can help us support this instance!

I cannot connect with Jerboa, it always says user or password incorrect 🙁

Edit: worked after a few minutes

Congratulations! I can’t believe how much you get done, Ruud! You are crushing it

Only being on Lemmy.world for a day. It seems smoother ...yes I am a reddit user trying to find a new home. 😂

Looks like the server is choking again, we've had ~7k new signups so far today 😅

Well, I hope I'm not the only one but I cannot log in. It's been 4 hours already. Something went wrong. I'm on Firefox mobile.

--> few hours later everything is back to normal

Let us know where donations can go, suspect a stacked docker-compose will reach limits very quickly

Can I actually post from Jerboa now?! Edit - Great success!!

Good bloody job admins, thank you heaps for your perseverance on this.

So some strange behaviour: When I pressed the upvote arrows in 0.17.4, it'd immediately show this in the UI. Right now, it does not. The response appears quite slow. Is this a function of 0.18.1-rc or a function of the traffic of the Reddit-fugees?

When not overloaded the site works better now than ever. But in general this instancen is kind of unusable now as everything is too slow.

Lemmy feels much smoother now after hours of being overloaded, what changed?

Thanks again admin team, you rock!

Eyyyy, nice. I can use Jerboa again. Thanks for your work!

I had a strange bug today where I wasn't able to upvote comments. So I cleared out my website data like the website suggested and I started having problems logging in. It would log in but then when I refreshed it wasn't logged in anymore. It stopped after a while but then when I clicked on an old tab when I refreshed I was logged out again. So, the log in issue must be something to do with how iOS Safari handles web cache on tabs.

🎉🎉

Woohoo! I'm in fellas

Definitely encountering bugs but I appreciate the work. Growing pains can be good!

Nice work!

Very nice. I see there are lots of little UI changes too. Thank you for your time and effort.

Am I the only one that just keeps seeing only the same 10 posts on the front page? Almost all about Reddit. Is there just no new content on this app?

I'm not sure if this has been said but, when I open lemmy on browser, my account would sometimes be someone elses. I don't know if it's a bug and I saw it happen three times to me so far, and it even happened again a few minutes ago. It's like I i logged into someone elses account, I saw three other usernames so far. A few minutes ago it said my account was Professor -?-?-?- with that account's profile picture shown too. It only does that for half a second before it returns back to my account.

I'm just making sure this is said because I don't want to one day accidentally log into someone else's account by accident.

We did it Lemmit!

...oh wait

Thank you!

love the transparency and how fast this is!! looks like we will do it lemmy! and reddit can suck a dick

Nice. I can use jerboa now.

Dumb question: how can I set up a small ongoing donation to lemmy.world specifically? I can't seem to find it on the mobile site.

Thanks a bunch for your hard work, Ruud and other admin folks! It's so damn GOOD to be able to use Jerboa again!

Also, it's really nice to see the breakdown of your work, helps a lot in understanding what you go through and maybe even of there's anything we can help with. Keep it up!

Thanks. Made a one-time 50€ contribution and started monthly payments as well. Hopefully this can help fund a server upgrade.

I'm one of the many who have had trouble logging in, and this issue is surely underreported as those affected generally aren't able to report it. It also seems like I'm not able to upvote or downvote. I'll update with any more issues that I come across but I only just now became able to log-in after a long wait and several different browsers.

Edit: it seems like I can successfully upvote/downvote, but the updated vote count and my blue/red arrow only show after refreshing the page. Thanks for all the work you put into this instance btw

Edit 2: All problems seem to have resolved now

I may not be a user on your instance, but either way, thanks for the upgrade. I was noticing a lot of issues with federation from lemmy.world, and it seems like this upgrade more-or-less fixed them.

I'm just running a tiny, single-user instance, but I want you to know that I appreciate the work you're putting in! I run large-scale infra as my day job, so I understand how challenging this sudden influx of users (and federated servers!) is.

Real challenging this morning posting and commenting. Circle of death waiting for something to post. Then getting multiple posts if it does go through.

Still early days y’all.

I am having some issues logging in to my lemmy.world account atm, just a heads up. I'm sure you folks are slammed right now, thanks for all the work you're doing!

hehe first :)

thank you for letting us know behind-the-scene stuffs.

me myself is a sysadmin and really like story of successfully scaling up servers. very satisfy to hear.

once again, thank you!

Thank you Ruud and those who helped to make it happen!

Awesome work!

I'd like to know more about the exact container topology you have, since I may try something similar on my instance as well.
Is it something like this?

┌───┐       ┌───┐
│WEB│       │WEB│
└─┬─┘       └─┬─┘
┌─┴─┐ ┌───┐ ┌─┴─┐
│BE ├─┤IMG├─┤BE │
└─┬─┘ ├───┤ └─┬─┘
  └───┤DB ├───┘  
      └───┘      

Thank you! :3

Is up/down voting not working for anyone else, or is it just me?

Lot of network errors, but it could be jerboa.

Fantastic work!

Thank you! I can finally log into jerboa now, much appreciated for your hard work

Is anyone else seeing duplicate and triplicate posts on the feed?

Everything was loading so slow 2 hours ago. Hope it will get better from there.

Edit: When I press "Post", it doesn't respond very long time, but reloading page helps.

Thank you for everything you are doing to update the community and make this space better for everyone!

Thank you for your effort in running this instance and also for being so transparent about the whole process.

Amazing work. Thankyou :)

Jerboa 0.0.37 now working fine for me, been hanging out to update.

Really appreciate the transparent communications.

Lemmy seems pretty slow. I wonder how many more people have joined here now.

Great work on moving away from the websockets

It has been near unusable since the upgrade.

Loving lemmy more and more!

Just so refreshing getting this much transparency.

Will confirm at least for me I'm no longer having any issues.

Thank you for all your hard work!

It's faster now, and we finally have buttons for rich text features! Congratulations!

Update: upvotes are a bit broken and weird right now, I need to refresh every time to see that I upvoted. But that's really the only issue I see right now.

Profile pictures on user profiles are still stretched, and now the upvote arrows doesn't turn blue until you refresh the page when you press it

Other than that, this is a fantastic design update

I really appreciate the transparency in this post. There's enough information for me to feel like I kind of know what's going on, and I can go dig into it deeper if I feel like it. This is a breath of fresh air from what I'm used to, thanks so much!

Thank you from England for all the hard work AND for giving such interesting details, especially as it will encourage others to set up their own instances, and help them cross similar hurdles!!

So, basically I can't see any content from lemmyworld, I'm commenting right now from another instance. When I logged into my Lemmy world account its just empty, zero content, any solutions?

🎉 Great work!

Awesome to see the transparency and some tech details of what these updates entail! I’m loving the bug fixes 0.18 brought too

YOU'RE DOING GOD'S WORK, SON! Keep up the good work! 🏆

Wow - we have a new defniition of 'awesome dudes'.

Thank you.

was struggling for a while, but it seem to be nice and fast now.. thank you!

@ruud oh wow 0.18.1 fixed the broken federation/webfinger issue!!! this is great news

Thanks! Now I can use Connect™ for Lemmy without problems. 👍🙂

Hey, thanks for your hard work, just want to let you know that login doesn't work for me in incognito mode or on any app.

I'm sure there will be bugs for others but it's smooth and bug free for me. Thanks so much for the devs and contributors.

Updated Jerboa. Thanks for your efforts, transparency and insights.

The instance just got so much more faster and stable, it's amazing. Keep up the good work!

Favicon seems to be missing now. Just a heads up! @[email protected]

Edit still see some performance issues. Needs more troubleshooting

Federation overheard is putting a lot of load on servers. Creating one task for every single post, comment, and vote in RAM-only queue.... pending changes: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/3466

Just signed up and everythings working well for me!

I'm curious; is this instance pysically running on a local private server somewhere or in the cloud in some data center?

I am still getting errors half the time I do anything while using jerboa

Website is working great though

Edit: It's suddenly working a lot better now. Hopefully I am not jinxing myself.

thank you for letting us know behind-the-scene stuffs.

me myself is a sysadmin and really like story of successfully scaling up servers. very satisfy to hear.

once again, thank you!

Login problem is fixed for me, yay! Back on Jerboa and here on the browser! Thanks for your hard work and for putting up with me, lol.

I'm getting network errors that aren't allowing me to actually view content on Jerboa right now, though, but at this point I'm assuming it's a Jerboa thing and not a problem with the instance.

Not sure what fixed it (I'm sure though on my side I did nothing since the last failed login) but the login form finally works again!

To everyone having a login problem, it seems that resetting the password solves the issue! Maybe this means that the upgrade corrupted the stored hashes somehow?

Excellent. Now I can login with jerboa 🎉

Thank you for the hard work! Enjoying Lemmy.world quite a bit. :)

Lot of network errors, but it could be jerboa.

we created extra lemmy containers to spread the load. (And extra lemmy-ui containers). And used nginx to load balance between them.

Had no idea nginx did that. There's so much I need to learn

Having login issues on the browser. Not logging in at all. But on liftoff where I was already logged in, everything seems to be working.

New user registrations closed until tomorrow

Warning: Be careful, this might trigger this bug here: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3422#issuecomment-1616112264

I really enjoy how lemmy is growing!

Special thanks to the other guys for helping make this update possible. Site is snappier than ever and the UI looks fantastic.

Thanks for the update. I especially like the transparency on not only the “upgrade” itself but also the potential issues encountered, together with the solutions. Seems rare nowadays, or I’m just seeing less and less people doing this.

Thanks! Seems to be working fine so far.

My first comment on here! Thanks for creating this, this looks fantastic and a great Reddit alternative. Keep up the great work.

Nice, really liking the update! Some questions about development for the fediverse: Is the code for running Lemmy written by one or person or a smome core team?

Is there any decision making process as to which features will be worked on in the next release or which bugs to prioritize?

In theory what would happen if the original developers started making changes that other people don't agree with? Would we get a fork then where servers have to choose to adopt it or not?

Fuck yeah upgrade hype

We're alive!!!

Thank you :)

Many thanks for the transparency! This is great.

Thank you! I love it here. Sending good vibes

Really like seeing posts like this that explain what's going on. Thanks for all the hard work!

Awesome work guys! The NEW front page of the internet is born.

Thank you!!

I can finally login!

Excellent news! I can browse Lemmy on my phone again, many thanks to you @Ruud and everyone else who worked on this!

Its been pretty snappy for me all afternoon! No errors to speak of.

Nice work!

Thanks so much for everything!

Even using Tor, the site load-times seem a lot snappier. Exciting times.

Is there a issue with the api? ( Because the api wrapper lemmy-js-client doesnt work on login. ) I tried it yesterday but not today yet. I will test it when i can :)

I survived!

This looks like it’s exposed some weaknesses, and it sounds like the team has it under control.

I’m moving right now and can’t dedicate time to development, but once I’m up and running I should be able to start contributing.

Scalability is always a concern with these sites, so there’s plenty to do to improve that

Hey man I just want to say thank you for your hard work.

Have you considered running your Lemmy instance on more than a single machine? If it is possible to run two lemmy containers anyway (ie, lemmy is not a singleton), why not run them on separate machines? With load balancing you could achieve a more stable experience. It might be cheaper to have many mediocre machines rather than a single powerful one too, as well as more sustainable long-term (vertical vs horizontal scaling).

The downside would be that the set-up would be less obvious than with Docker compose and you would probably need to get into k8s/k3s/nomad territory in order to orchestrate a proper fleet.

It keeps logging me out, plus when I log in, alarmingly other users' profile names flash in the top right corner for a second.

I can't login from my main browser even if I clear the cache and cookies, if I use other browser it works

Edit: I fixed it just by changing my browser language to English and restarting it, hope this is useful for someone.

Also, thanks to Ruud and team for the hard work, everything seems to work really well and fast.

Just want to say thank you. Your hard work is very much appreciated.

I like it.
The site feels a lot better to me, and seems significantly gentler in terms of browser resource consumption.

Also chipping in to give my appreciation, really enjoying Lemmy through lemmy.world!

This is really cool that this gets shared. Thanks for all of the info!

Is there a way to follow the update status while this instance is down?

I knew the update was coming, so I expected the downtime, but I could not find any info about when it was expected to be up and running again?

Thanks for the great and ongoing work put into managing this endeavor!

I really enjoy how lemmy is growing!

Great stuff!

I really enjoy how lemmy is growing!

We're back baby!

Nice

Excellent work!

Seems to work good enough!

Thanks a lot, you’re great

Working well here and can use Jerboa again. Although wefwef is really growing on me!

Edit: couldn't post from Jerboa, got network error. But wefwef worked.

obviously not critical, but it looks like there's a small sidebar bug (or feature?) that puts the pic near the instance name if it is the first thing in its description?

Nice work :)

💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯

Cool

It seems there is still some performance issues.

Maybe consider a webcache like varnish to take some of the load off?

we created extra lemmy containers to spread the load. (And extra lemmy-ui containers).

Is Rust HTTP server running into thread limits? database connection pooling? All kinds of internal questions bout that solution.

Amazing work! It seems much more performant now, everything seems to be loading faster.

Thanks for getting the update out!

Definitely weird that it was 1500 instead of some power of 2*100!

Also, when we finally get a 128 thread machine just think of the meme potential!

It seems that I can't log out in my browser. The page simply reloads after clicking the button.

Running so many Lemmy instances against the same database doesn't cause race conditions? I wonder why that "just worked" so easily, usually load balancing DB-backed apps is a whole beast on its own.

Thanks for all the time and work you put towards making this community better! It's really appreciated!

🙌 Great work team!!!

Absolutely loving the new UI changes. Thanks for being so transparent with us as well!

Logging in works now! Also got 2FA enabled without issues.

Signed into Jerboa! Thanks devs!

This is awesome. Was a fun read too. Super cool to see what was going on behind the scenes.